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Dunkirk101
06-29-2007, 09:19 AM
"Inner Demons"- have been described as an event in someones past that has an extreme amount of influence on their behavior at present"

Everyone has them. They can range from anything such as being bullied in grammar school, to trials and tribulations while serving in the military, to losing children in a bitter and brutal break up. Although these demons exist in practically everyone, each person tends to deal with them in different ways. Some chose sports to "vent" their frustrations, some chose exercise or music to control them, others tend to chose more self destructive methods such as drugs and alchohol to either control or hide from them.

For those that have accepted the fact that inner demons do exist within them, how do you deal with them and keep them at bay? :(

smartmouthwoman
06-29-2007, 10:17 AM
"Inner Demons"- have been described as an event in someones past that has an extreme amount of influence on their behavior at present"

Everyone has them. They can range from anything such as being bullied in grammar school, to trials and tribulations while serving in the military, to losing children in a bitter and brutal break up. Although these demons exist in practically everyone, each person tends to deal with them in different ways. Some chose sports to "vent" their frustrations, some chose exercise or music to control them, others tend to chose more self destructive methods such as drugs and alchohol to either control or hide from them.

For those that have accepted the fact that inner demons do exist within them, how do you deal with them and keep them at bay? :(

I don't really think about bad things I've experienced being INNER DEMONS hanging around in my psyche. However, when some bad memory gnaws at me or I feel 'victimized' by an unpleasant life event, I try to remember how many people have it so much worse than me. Then I usually feel a little guilty for having allowed myself to wallow.

And if all that fails... drugs & alcohol.

;)
SMW

tucker58
06-29-2007, 04:16 PM
"Inner Demons"- have been described as an event in someones past that has an extreme amount of influence on their behavior at present"

Everyone has them. They can range from anything such as being bullied in grammar school, to trials and tribulations while serving in the military, to losing children in a bitter and brutal break up. Although these demons exist in practically everyone, each person tends to deal with them in different ways. Some chose sports to "vent" their frustrations, some chose exercise or music to control them, others tend to chose more self destructive methods such as drugs and alchohol to either control or hide from them.

For those that have accepted the fact that inner demons do exist within them, how do you deal with them and keep them at bay? :(

Dunkirk you have created an awesome topic. Inner Demonds, How do we handle them? Based on my experience, most people including myself, who actually know that they have "inner demonds", also know that they have an "inner angel". And generally there is a constant conflict between the inner demons and the the inner angel over the soul of the person, and the life quality experience of the person themselves and the effect that they as individuals have on those around them, which generally they love and are loved by.

The funny thing about inner demons is that they are a part of what makes us real. Without them we would no longer be who we are. And you can actually destroy a person mentally by abruptly destroying their inner demons. So any dealing with inner demons relative to solving them has to be done over time. Or one will experience a mental breakdown. And it has to be done with love, not fear.

How do I handle my inner demons :) I come on "All Forums.net" and try not to let my inner demons get me into too much trouble :) "Tucker58 looks around for "Frogger" :) umm! Frog legs! yum yum!"

I think the best way to deal with your inner demons is to channel them in a direction that creates something that is at least marginally productive. And it is important that you don't beat yourself up for having these inner demons, that just makes things worse.

Tucker58

Napsterbater
06-29-2007, 05:42 PM
The funny thing about inner demons is that they are a part of what makes us real. Without them we would no longer be who we are. And you can actually destroy a person mentally by abruptly destroying their inner demons.
How would you accomplish such a feat?

Evakian
06-29-2007, 06:02 PM
How would you accomplish such a feat?
Lots and lots of cherry pie.

Napsterbater
06-29-2007, 06:40 PM
It's the combination of an over the top saccharine onslaught combined with the scalding acidic rush like a thousand Mountain Dews that's sure to burn any traces of foul mischief making devils! Of course, because you've lost your essential humanity, you're left a stumbling daft fool. Choose your dessert carefully, adventurer.

Pendragon
06-29-2007, 07:48 PM
For those that have accepted the fact that inner demons do exist within them, how do you deal with them and keep them at bay? :(

ZOLOFT!!!:@@:

Foolsworth
06-29-2007, 08:51 PM
[QUOTE=Dunkirk101]"Inner Demons"- have been described as an event in someones past that has an extreme amount of influence on their behavior at present"

Everyone has them.
Well,psychologically speaking,NOT everyone Has " inner demons ".
Just like some folk don't Dream.
And it's usually those w/o a conscience that either have
Demons that appear appealing or are Muted and lie in the
Super Ego,far enough removed from ones " Id " as to
relegate displacement.
A Dream needs to have an instigator and a connection with waking life.
It is when a displaced,aberrant personality has failed to comprehend
or notice the import of a Dreamstate that marks the condition of
sociopathic behavior and troubling interaction with those who can.
A Demon is merely something,that evokes mysterious phobia or
a controlling force that preoccupies the mind and relegates the
offended to less than normal capacity.
Sometimes vastly less.
Therefore the normal reaction to Conquer our Demons,lest they
control our thoughts.

tucker58
06-29-2007, 09:00 PM
How would you accomplish such a feat?

Napsterbater do you really want to Know :)

I love you! So how about this? Everytime you post you leave a bit of your thoughts, spirit/soul, and self that allows sensitive folks to study you :) I can go back on this messageboard and study your messages and destroy your demons. But at the sametime that is non productive. This messageboard would be empty, if you were not here. You are a gift. Your demons are a gift.

The funny thing about mankind/humankind is that our demons create creativity. Without this creativity mankind/humankind would become stagnant. And we would all sit in our own drool.

But this is what we are up against: Our Demons are self destructive. Lets take "Warrior" and "NightHawk", they were actually good people, they just didn't control their demons and self destructed in a civilized reality. Which we are all actually trying to maintain on this messageboard, and be creative also.

Too much chaos/creativity is a non functional reality. But at the sametime, so is stagnation (no change). What I like about messageboards is that everybody has demons, and if a messageboard has good management :) folks whose demons are out of control :) get banned!

I have to contol my demons to be here and I trust BorgHunter to set the limits. I don't want his job :) but I am glad he is here! I have to behave myself because he is here and willing to accept this challenge. And I can't duck the fact that he is a good person. That I respect inspite of my demons.

I don't want to be bad, I just want to play and my demons are a part of me.

Borghunter keeps me honest :) yepper, he does! And he is just a young fellow, I love it. "Peace makers will find peace!" Just where I fit in the "beatitudes", I have no idea, but I do respect those that do fit.

So Napsterbater :) can I hunt you and destroy your demons? Actually with nobody else on this mesageboard knowing what I am doing :) ?

I love this topic/thread, sometimes demons can be good! You just have to keep a handle on them! Or they will destroy you :) it is a given!

Tucker58

Napsterbater
06-29-2007, 09:14 PM
Tucker, ever hear of the Forer effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect)?

Foolsworth
06-29-2007, 09:54 PM
Tucker, ever hear of the Forer effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect)?

Godfrey Cambridge,please for the sake of decency and
allowing that some may have just munched on snacks.
Dump that grotesque --- Texas Chainsaw massacre --- disgusting,
Vile,putrid,rotten and squeamishly surreal-looking piece of
"Id" profile pic.
Some Posters,just aren't happy till they make others uncomfortable.
Tag...you're IT.
Stupid,festering pile of Living dung.

Napsterbater
06-29-2007, 09:57 PM
Why must you so make fun of the mentally challenged, Foolsworth?

~Sal~
06-29-2007, 10:08 PM
I think inner demons are best handled first by acknowledging they are present. If they are. I do not buy the belief that we all have deep terrifying things within us because we have experienced trauma. Some do not although they can be manufactured.

If they truly exist then analysing the behaviour which they make us exhibit would be helpful. Then deciding what purpose that behaviour serves be it positive or negative.

Understanding enpowers us. They we decide which road we are going to take, running and pretending or fixing.

~Sal~
06-29-2007, 10:10 PM
Why must you so make fun of the mentally challenged, Foolsworth?
Aw Nappy I don't think he actually meant to make fun of you. He is just too polite to tell you to STFU.

Welcome home by the way.

koutaka
06-30-2007, 09:17 AM
I love this topic.:)

Inner Demon means your potential anticipation to anybody.
If you often are made threats by some one, you guess everybody will make threat to you. And, when you come up against problem, maybe you would make threat to anybody that as you guess that anybody make threat on the situation.

Inner Angel? I guess I know it means what.
If you are logical, you guess that anybody would be logical anytime like yourself. It's a Inner Angel.
But unfortunately, it's a just illusion.:lolhit: If everybody are logical, I'll more enjoy my life. (´・ω・`)


But believing anybody is more happy than doubting anybody. Before all, doubting is very tiring emotion. Being nurvous anytime would be stress on me.

Thus, for that, I would be surrounded anybody who as trust. Therefore, I would be a person who as trust that like a person who I want to be surrounded. If I will so, anybody as trust will surround me. If I won't so, anybody as trust will go away from me. I know it, therefore, I do it. I want to be trust and having kindness by fear to my surround, not for religion or belief.

Napsterbater
06-30-2007, 02:40 PM
Aw Nappy I don't think he actually meant to make fun of you. He is just too polite to tell you to STFU.

Welcome home by the way.
Lol! Well, if you do happen to want to know where my avatar came from, this link should serve:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5quo2APwcZk

DanF
06-30-2007, 06:01 PM
Is it really inner demons or activity that one deems acceptable?
If, I were somewhat disappointed with my own station in life, I may feel that my inappropriate actions are somehow stinging those that I am unable to admit I envy.

My inappropriate actions may also stem from guilt that I have failed myself or others in the past.

Then, there is always the possibility that my actions are ruled by fears that I have failed to conquer in spite of my self-admitted intelligence.

Bottom line: I still say that we are born, rattle around like a marble in a syrup bucket, and then we die!

Its just great to have fun when we can. :banana:

tucker58
07-01-2007, 03:32 PM
Tucker, ever hear of the Forer effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect)?

Nappy, based on my long experience as a student of the human mind, your Forer Effect information was very interesting and I don't dissagree with what it says ( and sorry guys but I love his sig. picture. It is fraught profoundness :) ).

At the sametime just because one doesn't believe in something, doesn't necessarally mean that it is not real. And vice versa.

The challenge is maintaining a open mind long enough to seperate what is real from what is unreal. And what is funny Nappy, is that you already know that :)

Tucker58 "Tucky :) "

PS: Nappy do you have any good recipies for rabbit? I have a yard full of them and the wild preditors are not keeping up again. Mother nature John is going to have to be involuked. I hate that part. Anyway, I have never been able to cook rabbit so that it tastes good :) so usually I just throw them over the fence for Little Yapper the coyote that hunts my yard. Suggestions?

tucker58
07-01-2007, 03:38 PM
I think inner demons are best handled first by acknowledging they are present. If they are. I do not buy the belief that we all have deep terrifying things within us because we have experienced trauma. Some do not although they can be manufactured.

If they truly exist then analysing the behaviour which they make us exhibit would be helpful. Then deciding what purpose that behaviour serves be it positive or negative.

Understanding enpowers us. They we decide which road we are going to take, running and pretending or fixing.

Sal the information in your post fits my experience and based on my experience is very good advice and well said. :)

Tucker58

tucker58
07-01-2007, 03:41 PM
Is it really inner demons or activity that one deems acceptable?
If, I were somewhat disappointed with my own station in life, I may feel that my inappropriate actions are somehow stinging those that I am unable to admit I envy.

My inappropriate actions may also stem from guilt that I have failed myself or others in the past.

Then, there is always the possibility that my actions are ruled by fears that I have failed to conquer in spite of my self-admitted intelligence.

Bottom line: I still say that we are born, rattle around like a marble in a syrup bucket, and then we die!

Its just great to have fun when we can. :banana:

I love you DanF! What you posted was fun and way too real :)

Tucker58

tucker58
07-01-2007, 03:54 PM
I love this topic.:)

Inner Demon means your potential anticipation to anybody.
If you often are made threats by some one, you guess everybody will make threat to you. And, when you come up against problem, maybe you would make threat to anybody that as you guess that anybody make threat on the situation.

Inner Angel? I guess I know it means what.
If you are logical, you guess that anybody would be logical anytime like yourself. It's a Inner Angel.
But unfortunately, it's a just illusion.:lolhit: If everybody are logical, I'll more enjoy my life. (´・ω・`)


But believing anybody is more happy than doubting anybody. Before all, doubting is very tiring emotion. Being nurvous anytime would be stress on me.

Thus, for that, I would be surrounded anybody who as trust. Therefore, I would be a person who as trust that like a person who I want to be surrounded. If I will so, anybody as trust will surround me. If I won't so, anybody as trust will go away from me. I know it, therefore, I do it. I want to be trust and having kindness by fear to my surround, not for religion or belief.

:) Koutaka, if nothing else works, what you posted will work :) And being surrounded by assholes and idiots is definitely not condusive to a pleasant life quality experience :) ,if one has any sense (Tucker58 looks around for "Frogger" :) ).

Tucker58

dharmabum
07-01-2007, 04:36 PM
This is a very good book (http://www.amazon.com/Taming-Your-Gremlin-Revised-Surprisingly/dp/0060520221/ref=pd_bbs_sr_11/104-4700845-1832763?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183325887&sr=8-11)on this topic.

:thumbs:

the J Man
07-01-2007, 04:37 PM
For those that have accepted the fact that inner demons do exist within them, how do you deal with them and keep them at bay? :(

You can deal with demons through the power of the Lord Jesus Christ. Satan comes, to steal, kill and destroy. Demons are just carrying out Satan's procedure's which is to desotry lives, to destroy people metally, to hinder people from progressing, to deceive people, to torment people, to afflict people, to vex people. Jesus came to set the captives free, heal the broken hearted, and set at liberty them that ar ebruised(Luke4:18). He came to destroy the works of the devil(1st John3:8). God annointed Jesus with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good, and healing all who were oppressed by the devil(Acts10:38). By knowing the Lord, by walking in truth and by not allowing demons to do their evil against you, that is how you can properly deal with them. Jesus gave His follower power to cast demons out(Matthew10:1-8). Satan depends on people not knowing and adhering to the truth. The truth will set people free(John8:32). Knowing how these demons operate and refusing to allow them to control and manipulate you, is the key to being victorious over them.

Napsterbater
07-01-2007, 04:39 PM
You can deal with demons through the power of the Lord Jesus Christ. Satan comes, to steal, kill and destroy. Demons are just carrying out Satan's procedure's which is to desotry lives, to destroy people metally, to hinder people from progressing, to deceive people, to torment people, to afflict people, to vex people. Jesus came to set the captives free, heal the broken hearted, and set at liberty them that ar ebruised(Luke4:18). He came to destroy the works of the devil(1st John3:8). God annointed Jesus with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good, and healing all who were oppressed by the devil(Acts10:38). By knowing the Lord, by walking in truth and by not allowing demons to do their evil against you, that is how you can properly deal with them. Jesus gave His follower power to cast demons out(Matthew10:1-8). Satan depends on people not knowing and adhering to the truth. The truth will set people free(John8:32). Knowing how these demons operate and refusing to allow them to control and manipulate you, is the key to being victorious over them.
You could do all that, or you could just take your life day by day, and try to be practical about your demons instead of letting them run your life.

~Sal~
07-01-2007, 05:56 PM
This is a very good book (http://www.amazon.com/Taming-Your-Gremlin-Revised-Surprisingly/dp/0060520221/ref=pd_bbs_sr_11/104-4700845-1832763?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183325887&sr=8-11)on this topic.

:thumbs:
dharm, could you just tell us a little bit about the book and why you think it is good...?

~Sal~
07-01-2007, 06:03 PM
Lol! Well, if you do happen to want to know where my avatar came from, this link should serve:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5quo2APwcZkOh my gawd,...wtf was that....I thought he did Julia Childs pretty well. See he put the lettuce on the same board as the raw meat... yummy. He did smash the lettuce correctly though.

DanF
07-01-2007, 06:18 PM
You can deal with demons through the power of the Lord Jesus Christ. Satan comes, to steal, kill and destroy. Demons are just carrying out Satan's procedure's which is to desotry lives, to destroy people metally, to hinder people from progressing, to deceive people, to torment people, to afflict people, to vex people. Jesus came to set the captives free, heal the broken hearted, and set at liberty them that ar ebruised(Luke4:18). He came to destroy the works of the devil(1st John3:8). God annointed Jesus with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good, and healing all who were oppressed by the devil(Acts10:38). By knowing the Lord, by walking in truth and by not allowing demons to do their evil against you, that is how you can properly deal with them. Jesus gave His follower power to cast demons out(Matthew10:1-8). Satan depends on people not knowing and adhering to the truth. The truth will set people free(John8:32). Knowing how these demons operate and refusing to allow them to control and manipulate you, is the key to being victorious over them.

As I read this post, it really made me wonder how millions of us manage to face, and deal with, real life without benefit of the Bible invention.
My hats off to us.

dharmabum
07-02-2007, 01:30 AM
dharm, could you just tell us a little bit about the book and why you think it is good...?

Sure.
Everyone, in varying degrees, experiences the negative thoughts and emotions that we characterize as "inner demons" or "Gremlins", as this book calls it. In my opinion that book offers a very insightful and effective method for recognizing these gremlins and the patterns that we form in our lives because of them. It talks about "taming" our inner demons instead of "defeating" them or "purging" them from ourselves because they are a fundamental part of us. Part of the human mental experience is a constant barrage of "voices" and ideas that come unbidden from the subconscious and uncontrolled they can come to dominate a person and seem like "demons". The book offers techniques for "taming" the flow of those thoughts. It is not enough to merely be conscious of our inner demons, we have to be familiar with them to the point that they no longer make us uncomfortable, thereby robbing them of power to influence us.

~Sal~
07-02-2007, 08:11 AM
Sure.
Everyone, in varying degrees, experiences the negative thoughts and emotions that we characterize as "inner demons" or "Gremlins", as this book calls it. In my opinion that book offers a very insightful and effective method for recognizing these gremlins and the patterns that we form in our lives because of them. It talks about "taming" our inner demons instead of "defeating" them or "purging" them from ourselves because they are a fundamental part of us. Part of the human mental experience is a constant barrage of "voices" and ideas that come unbidden from the subconscious and uncontrolled they can come to dominate a person and seem like "demons". The book offers techniques for "taming" the flow of those thoughts. It is not enough to merely be conscious of our inner demons, we have to be familiar with them to the point that they no longer make us uncomfortable, thereby robbing them of power to influence us.
Ah, very nice, thank you.

tucker58
07-02-2007, 02:49 PM
You can deal with demons through the power of the Lord Jesus Christ. Satan comes, to steal, kill and destroy. Demons are just carrying out Satan's procedure's which is to desotry lives, to destroy people metally, to hinder people from progressing, to deceive people, to torment people, to afflict people, to vex people. Jesus came to set the captives free, heal the broken hearted, and set at liberty them that ar ebruised(Luke4:18). He came to destroy the works of the devil(1st John3:8). God annointed Jesus with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good, and healing all who were oppressed by the devil(Acts10:38). By knowing the Lord, by walking in truth and by not allowing demons to do their evil against you, that is how you can properly deal with them. Jesus gave His follower power to cast demons out(Matthew10:1-8). Satan depends on people not knowing and adhering to the truth. The truth will set people free(John8:32). Knowing how these demons operate and refusing to allow them to control and manipulate you, is the key to being victorious over them.

I love you J Man! That was cool!

Tucker58

tucker58
07-02-2007, 02:57 PM
Sure.
Everyone, in varying degrees, experiences the negative thoughts and emotions that we characterize as "inner demons" or "Gremlins", as this book calls it. In my opinion that book offers a very insightful and effective method for recognizing these gremlins and the patterns that we form in our lives because of them. It talks about "taming" our inner demons instead of "defeating" them or "purging" them from ourselves because they are a fundamental part of us. Part of the human mental experience is a constant barrage of "voices" and ideas that come unbidden from the subconscious and uncontrolled they can come to dominate a person and seem like "demons". The book offers techniques for "taming" the flow of those thoughts. It is not enough to merely be conscious of our inner demons, we have to be familiar with them to the point that they no longer make us uncomfortable, thereby robbing them of power to influence us.

The neat thing about tamed Demons is that they go away after awile.

Tucker58

~Sal~
07-02-2007, 04:01 PM
The neat thing about tamed Demons is that they go away after awile.

Tucker58

The neat thing about tamed demons is they become an "advantage" after a while.

Dunkirk101
07-04-2007, 11:05 AM
This is a very good book (http://www.amazon.com/Taming-Your-Gremlin-Revised-Surprisingly/dp/0060520221/ref=pd_bbs_sr_11/104-4700845-1832763?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183325887&sr=8-11)on this topic.

:thumbs:

I've read though all the post you all made, and all of you managed to make some VERY good points! Thank you for all of your responses. You all gave me A LOT to think about. Dharmabum, I'm going to buy this book and go through it very carefully!


Thanks again everyone :cool:

tucker58
07-04-2007, 04:31 PM
The neat thing about tamed demons is they become an "advantage" after a while.

So Sal what is your definition of "Tamed" :)

To me "Tamed" means, "No longer a threat or dangerious."

Sal, I expect that your demons are mastered but at the same time, that they are also still dangerious! Mine are :) and relative to them the concept of "mastered" is a loose term. :)

A yogi guru once posted on a messageboard that I was on, "The Way of the Green Witch", that I was like the demon that was loved by Brahman because of his persistance. :)

"Tucker58 scopes out Sal's cute butt and hopes that she doesn't catch him doing it :) "

Love you! :)

Tucker58

~Sal~
07-06-2007, 05:58 PM
So Sal what is your definition of "Tamed" :)

To me "Tamed" means, "No longer a threat or dangerious."

Nah, I think you already know that "tamed" to me merely means no longer an overwhelming threat to life, limb or sanity. :)

Sal, I expect that your demons are mastered but at the same time, that they are also still dangerious! Mine are :) and relative to them the concept of "mastered" is a loose term. :)
Tucker, you are either one very smart shit, or very perceptive. Or, perhaps a combination of both. Whatever the hell you are, you get "it". I like that. None the less, you could be dangerous to some souls who are less than honest with themselves. :) Or perceive themselves as larger than they are.

Yes my demons are still dangerous. Sometimes they can get you high when you conquer them so thus it becomes a game. Does it not? Open the door, release the demons and dance the dance. Conquer the moment and feel the high. Demons, even when mastered or conquered are never over come. They are not like a dragon to be slayed. Although when younger I thought they were. Was convinced they were. :) HAD to believe they were. But they are not. They always live on. They lay in wait. It is the moment of weakness they watch for. They have a life of their own. That is part of the adventure. The strong, the weak, they battle on. We learn to live peacefully with them on some level if we are lucky. At least that is my experience thus far.

A yogi guru once posted on a messageboard that I was on, "The Way of the Green Witch", that I was like the demon that was loved by Brahman because of his persistance. :) One must always persist, or acquiesce, there is truly no middle ground on the psyche.

"Tucker58 scopes out Sal's cute butt and hopes that she doesn't catch him doing it :) "

Love you! :)

Tucker58

Sal wiggles her butt and leaves a few feathers for the take. :)

sassyrunner
07-06-2007, 07:08 PM
"Inner Demons"- have been described as an event in someones past that has an extreme amount of influence on their behavior at present"

Everyone has them. They can range from anything such as being bullied in grammar school, to trials and tribulations while serving in the military, to losing children in a bitter and brutal break up. Although these demons exist in practically everyone, each person tends to deal with them in different ways. Some chose sports to "vent" their frustrations, some chose exercise or music to control them, others tend to chose more self destructive methods such as drugs and alchohol to either control or hide from them.

For those that have accepted the fact that inner demons do exist within them, how do you deal with them and keep them at bay? :(

Alot of us do the things you mentioned above: exercise...music ...and of course the drugs and alcohol obliterate them for a while - but they come right back to slam you in the face. I think it may be more an issue of taming them..they do define your character.

tucker58
07-06-2007, 08:22 PM
Nah, I think you already know that "tamed" to me merely means no longer an overwhelming threat to life, limb or sanity. :)


Tucker, you are either one very smart shit, or very perceptive. Or, perhaps a combination of both. Whatever the hell you are, you get "it". I like that. None the less, you could be dangerous to some souls who are less than honest with themselves. :) Or perceive themselves as larger than they are.

Yes my demons are still dangerous. Sometimes they can get you high when you conquer them so thus it becomes a game. Does it not? Open the door, release the demons and dance the dance. Conquer the moment and feel the high. Demons, even when mastered or conquered are never over come. They are not like a dragon to be slayed. Although when younger I thought they were. Was convinced they were. :) HAD to believe they were. But they are not. They always live on. They lay in wait. It is the moment of weakness they watch for. They have a life of their own. That is part of the adventure. The strong, the weak, they battle on. We learn to live peacefully with them on some level if we are lucky. At least that is my experience thus far.

One must always persist, or acquiesce, there is truly no middle ground on the psyche.



Sal wiggles her butt and leaves a few feathers for the take. :)

Sal, the spirit/mind imprints that you leave on this messageboard say that you are very awake and a loving person, if given a chance :)

Sal I loved your post, it was fraught with everything and based on my experience :) alot of extremely deep wisdom!

I expect that I am in over my head when it comes to you :) Yepper!

Tucker58 :) "ducks" abit to regroup! :)

tucker who ever I am? I think it is 58?

Hugs and love John :)