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Phyrex
06-10-2007, 05:56 AM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5cc_1181459168&c=1

Talk about an unusual weapon. This is probably the funniest thing I've seen in a while.

Sparky2
06-10-2007, 06:40 AM
The reporter was playing up the 'gay' angle of that proposed chemical weapon more than was necessary.

If such a chem/bio agent (a pheromonal aphrodesiac) were employed, the troops would simply become hyper-amorous with anybody and everybody. Men on men, men on women, women on men, women on women. (Sheep, dogs, livestock?)

In theory then, the usual state of order and discipline would break-down among the affected combatants, and they would be easy prey for a fighting force that had not been exposed to the agent.

I myself would not term such a weapon a "Gay Bomb" so much as I would perhaps the "Caligula Bomb".

Some context:

During the 1940's through the 1960's, the US Army actually experimented with a variety of "Incapacitating Agents" that were designed to make affected soldiers disoriented, dizzy, lethargic, and subject to hallucinations. (As in the scenario described above, the affected soldiers would be rendered ineffective.) Different compounds related to LSD and Cannibis were explored, but the most stable and cost-effective was a compound known as 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate (QNB). This agent was assigned the NATO chemical weapon designation of "BZ", and was rumored to have actually been deployed in Vietnam. (Later inspiring the Stephen King story and film, Jacob's Ladder.)

The Department of Defense has since begun to systematically destroy all it's stockpiles of chemical weapons. One of the two major chemical weapons demilitarization plants is actually located quite near to where I live and work:

http://www.wgint.com/docs/at/Anniston.pdf

Two other Incapacitating Agents that are still in the inventory as "Riot Control Agents" are Tear Gas (any of a number of highly irritating agents normally used by law enforcement for crowd control or by individuals for protection, for example, mace) and Vomiting Agents (chemicals that cause nausea and vomiting). The most widely-deployed vomiting agent is Adamsite (NATO designation of 'DM').


http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/battledressuniform_1945_27339120

Frogger
06-10-2007, 06:44 AM
This is another case of political correctness gone wild.
According to the PC crowd there is nothing wrong with being gay. Now that same crowd is decrying a non-lethal weapon that would temporarily make people gay. Something is wrong with this scenerio.

Would the anti-gay bomb people prefer that the enemy soldiers were wiped out by cluster bombs, or perhaps by lethal gas?

The proposed gay bomb is a non-lethal way to get enemy troops to "make love, not war".

es347fan
06-10-2007, 07:45 AM
This is another case of political correctness gone wild.
According to the PC crowd there is nothing wrong with being gay. Now that same crowd is decrying a non-lethal weapon that would temporarily make people gay. Something is wrong with this scenerio.

Would the anti-gay bomb people prefer that the enemy soldiers were wiped out by cluster bombs, or perhaps by lethal gas?

The proposed gay bomb is a non-lethal way to get enemy troops to "make love, not war".

But, would they respect one another the next day?

Imagineer
06-10-2007, 09:21 PM
Don't ask, don't tell. Drop such a bomb on the U.S. Army and we'd wind up booting the lot of them out of the military.

Sparky2
06-11-2007, 05:36 AM
Turns out Iraq had either produced or acquired some BZ, and called it, "Agent 15".

Summary of Iraq's pre-and-post Gulf War I chemical program, last updated in 1998.
Not a bad read:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/cw/program.htm

Evakian
06-12-2007, 06:04 AM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5cc_1181459168&c=1
Is this a video of Muqtada al Sadr coming out to his troops?

MrCooper
06-16-2007, 09:14 AM
I can't wait for a couple troops from any military get caught having gay sex and use the 'gay-bomb' excuse.

"Oh, I think someone dropped a gay bomb in here!"

Freethinker
06-16-2007, 05:51 PM
This is another case of political correctness gone wild. According to the PC crowd there is nothing wrong with being gay. Now that same crowd is decrying a non-lethal weapon that would temporarily make people gay. Something is wrong with this scenerio.

The only thing I see "wrong" is your ineptitude in understanding the story.

The first person interviewed was an Army veteran. Hardly a "PC crowd gone wild" member.

The second person was a gay man, who was clearly and emphatically making the SAME point that you're trying (incorrectly) to say that people are not grasping; that it is wrong to view this on the basis that to make people "gay" is some horrible thing.

The news piece was not about people decrying the bomb itself; it was about people decrying the fact that the bomb and the use of the proposed bomb is being viewed as some horrible weapon because it 'turns people gay'.

Would the anti-gay bomb people prefer that the enemy soldiers were wiped out by cluster bombs, or perhaps by lethal gas?

Well, let's review.

Did you HEAR anyone in the news piece making such an assertion?

Have you heard ANYONE on the planet making such an assertion??

Didn't think so.

Sheesh.

Fucking nits go around whining about the "the PC crowd has gone wild" and "does the anti-war crowd want them to use cluster bombs instead?" when they don't even grasp the reason for the opposition.

Sad.

Brooks
06-19-2007, 12:15 PM
"Category #3: Chemicals that effect (sic) human behavior so that discipline and morale in enemy units is adversely effected. One distasteful but completely non-lethat example would be strong aphrodisiacs, especially if the chemical also caused homosexual behavior. Another example would be a chemical that made personnel very sensitive to sunlight."

This is one sentence from one paragraph from a three page proposal. The item in question is just mentioned as an example of what a chemical weapon might be capable of. Nothing here indicates that any resources were put toward this.

Other things not mentioned in this proposal:
The word gay.
The word bomb.
The phrase "gay bomb".
The military calling homosexual behavior "distasteful".
"Dropping" the weapon on the enemy.
Any claim that gay men cannot serve honorably and effectively.

All of the offensive things in this story were phrases uttered by The Sunshine Project and not part of the original study.

Also, as Sparky stated, this is about aphrodisiacs not gayness (?).

The military used the phrase "homosexual behavior" while The Sunshine Project used the word "gay". They are strictly equating gayness (?) with a sexual act.