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tucker58
06-05-2007, 08:23 PM
Most people in Religion forums on the internet actually claim that they are "On the side of God". Are they? Are you?

Even Warrior, who actually knows God (my version), is actually trying to share God with you. The question is why?

The internet is full of people trying to explain God to you! Except Borghunter :) he "is" abit rogue :)

Do you/we really care about God? Or are you/we really just here to kick butt?

My dad told me one time that if you don't want to create conflict, then don't talk about religion or politics, talk about the weather :)

Are you personally, on the side of God? Or are you here just for the fun :) ?

Tucker58

BorgHunter
06-05-2007, 08:40 PM
I was mentioned in a random thread! I'm famous! I'm loved! :D

Darth Be'lal
06-05-2007, 09:04 PM
I'm still kinda stuck whether or not God EXISTS. It'd be nice if he did, but I'm not for sure, dammit.

Blob
06-06-2007, 01:43 AM
Or are you here just for the fun :) ?Yep.

500lbguerilla
06-06-2007, 01:51 AM
The dark side of the god.

Inviolable
06-06-2007, 02:09 AM
I have to admit, I cant really narrow down why I'm here.
Debates fun but I also wind up learning something every now and then. To be completely honest I think I just might have some knowledge people can learn from.
But I think everyone thinks that way, at least every now and then.
Everyone has a point to make that they know is valid.

godsandmen
06-06-2007, 10:05 AM
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godsandmen
06-06-2007, 10:06 AM
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godsandmen
06-06-2007, 10:09 AM
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DarkFantasy96
06-06-2007, 04:33 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b222/godsandmen/religion/jesus%20saves/fas15.gif

Hahahaha!!! Oh my, I like that one.

Foolsworth
06-06-2007, 08:46 PM
I have to admit, I cant really narrow down why I'm here.
Debates fun but I also wind up learning something every now and then. To be completely honest I think I just might have some knowledge people can learn from.
But I think everyone thinks that way, at least every now and then.
Everyone has a point to make that they know is valid.

Obviously you haven't the vaguest concept of what VALID entails.

Inviolable
06-06-2007, 09:35 PM
Obviously you haven't the vaguest concept of what VALID entails.

Why?

Foolsworth
06-06-2007, 09:53 PM
Why?

Obvioulsy Some humans,and particularly message Posters truly
don't KNOW the difference between Valid and their own personal
one-sidedness.Take Hitler or Stalin for instance.
I'm absolutely certain in their Mind,they had many a Valid idea'r.
But that's what happens when a Dictator has total freedom to choose.
Challenge is a blessing within Mankind.It keeps the cruel from running
amuck.

~Sal~
06-06-2007, 10:03 PM
I was mentioned in a random thread! I'm famous! I'm loved! :D
yeah, yeah, we all loves ya... straighten that halo and it could do with a wee bit o' polish...

~Sal~
06-06-2007, 10:17 PM
Most people in Religion forums on the internet actually claim that they are "On the side of God". Are they? Are you?

Even Warrior, who actually knows God (my version), is actually trying to share God with you. The question is why?

The internet is full of people trying to explain God to you! Except Borghunter :) he "is" abit rogue :)

Do you/we really care about God? Or are you/we really just here to kick butt?

My dad told me one time that if you don't want to create conflict, then don't talk about religion or politics, talk about the weather :)

Are you personally, on the side of God? Or are you here just for the fun :) ?

Tucker58

Well luckily for me, if there is a God and if he is all powerful, then he doesn't need me to be on his side.

We say grace before meals.... always. It's not because God needs me to... it's because I need to be reminded constantly that the food before me is something I need to be grateful for. Most of the rest of the world has no such luxury.

I was raised Catholic and taught to confess. (I am no longer Christian just to make sure you understand where I am coming from here.) Most people have zero clue about the benefits of learning to be honest with themselves and admitting their faults to another. Confession taught me many things not the least of which is forgiveness of self and therefore others.

Good and bad are relative.

I am here for fun, but I have learnt a lot here at Allforums. So no, I am not on God's side but he is on mine (depending upon what passes for God). And as another poster pointed out to me I seem to enjoy a bit of conflict although they did not mean it in a complimentary way I chose to take it as a compliment because ... well because I know that likely irritated them more.

There is nothing wrong with conflict and resolution. It's how it's handled that matters.

And here is one of the few places that you can meet such a vast array of people with many talents and things to share. Diversity is the spice of life and as long as we honour boundaries set by individuals it's a wonderful adult playground.

Inviolable
06-06-2007, 10:20 PM
Obvioulsy Some humans,and particularly message Posters truly
don't KNOW the difference between Valid and their own personal
one-sidedness.Take Hitler or Stalin for instance.
I'm absolutely certain in their Mind,they had many a Valid idea'r.
But that's what happens when a Dictator has total freedom to choose.
Challenge is a blessing within Mankind.It keeps the cruel from running
amuck.


So for no apparent reason youre comparing me to Hitler and Stalin?
Might I ask if you are challenged in some way?

~Sal~
06-06-2007, 10:28 PM
So for no apparent reason youre comparing me to Hitler and Stalin?
Might I ask if you are challenged in some way?





Evening Inviolabe... I know I can't speak for foolie but my interpretation of his post was that even Hitler and Stalin thought their points were valid, so belief in one's own validity doesn't mean anything.

Then again I think he missed the gist of your post... so hell... confusion all around... :D

Have a good evening now eh? ;)

Inviolable
06-06-2007, 11:20 PM
Evening Inviolabe... I know I can't speak for foolie but my interpretation of his post was that even Hitler and Stalin thought their points were valid, so belief in one's own validity doesn't mean anything.

Then again I think he missed the gist of your post... so hell... confusion all around... :D

Have a good evening now eh? ;)

Ah! Thank you Sal, maybe I should have just asked him if he thinks his point is valid.

tucker58
06-07-2007, 12:53 PM
I was mentioned in a random thread! I'm famous! I'm loved! :D

BorgHunter What do you mean my thread is "random"?! Sheesh! I spent alot of time thinking this through clearly :)

Anyway BorgHunter, everybody does love you! And yes you are famous :)

Tucker58

tucker58
06-07-2007, 01:04 PM
I'm still kinda stuck whether or not God EXISTS. It'd be nice if he did, but I'm not for sure, dammit.

Hi Darth! What you have posted is "the" question! So how about this: Jesus said that God exists and worked miracles to proove it, so they made Jesus God. Personally I am not sure that that was His point.

Based on my 52 years of personally playing with God, I think that a leap of faith is absolutely required :) Yepper!

Tucker58

tucker58
06-07-2007, 01:12 PM
I have to admit, I cant really narrow down why I'm here.
Debates fun but I also wind up learning something every now and then. To be completely honest I think I just might have some knowledge people can learn from.
But I think everyone thinks that way, at least every now and then.
Everyone has a point to make that they know is valid.

were you aware that science as a mode of thought came about through monotheism? You see, the idea of a single creator made it possible for human beings to view creation as separate from spirit. And thus humanity advanced from one that believed that spirits lived in trees and rocks to one that believed that one Creator created this intricately marvelous world we live in. The scientific endeavor then became one where individuals observed and studied various aspects of this creation. That is called science.

"Mary Grabar"

Inviolable your sig is way to cool! That was information that I didn't know/have.

Tucker58

tucker58
06-07-2007, 01:34 PM
Ah! Thank you Sal, maybe I should have just asked him if he thinks his point is valid.

If you shout loud enough, then everybody knows that your point is valid :)

Or this: If I believe it, then it is real; If you don't believe it, then you are ignorant :) If I believe it, then it has to be valid! I believe BorgHunter is famous, I read his doctorate thesis :)

Jesus worked miracles; But what we don't know, is how He did it :)

Why am I here? Because everybody else is :) and I don't want to miss anything!

Tucker58

Inviolable
06-08-2007, 05:57 AM
Inviolable your sig is way to cool! That was information that I didn't know/have.

Tucker58

Thank you Tucker, I dont know of the person who said the quote to well.
So, Im not to sure about it. I often see strang attempts made by non-Christians making claims in their sigs and I was hoping to show them their folly, through example, sourt of.

I changed my sig today mocking other attempts I have seen. I think its funny and I hope other people do as well.

tucker58
06-11-2007, 05:21 PM
Thank you Tucker, I dont know of the person who said the quote to well.
So, Im not to sure about it. I often see strang attempts made by non-Christians making claims in their sigs and I was hoping to show them their folly, through example, sourt of.

I changed my sig today mocking other attempts I have seen. I think its funny and I hope other people do as well.

I like your new sig Inviolable :) I do I dentify with it. To me nothing is real until I have studied it first hand and have experienced it (except humping animals or guys :) I will just take that stuff on faith). At this time I am studying the physical immortality meditations and so far things are interesting. Not that it matters.

Anyway, I think that your sig is going to be over alot of folks heads :) so how does one get around this? Based on my experience your are up against two kinds of non Christians (three if you include folks that are just to busy to care). Non Christians that are open minded (which most Christians aren't :) ) and non christians that are just plain contrary. Folks that are just plain contrary you can't do anything about. They are "No" impowered. Which means that they are only happy when they can say "No". They fixated on "No" as a child for whatever reason. Whatever you say, they have to say "No". It is a "knee jerk" reaction :) . The power is in the "No". I am real everytime I say 'No".

Open minded non Christians :) Humm? I never had any faith in God. I was not raised that way. But Jesus said somewhere that faith could be based on experience. Well, based on 52 years of playing with Him/God, I trust that "Bugger"! It took fifty two years. And there is no getting around it :) I am an awkward child, but He still loves me. And I love Him and I love my Master Jesus.

So Imviolable, where are these non believers with an open mind? Let have a look at them. :)

Tucker58

Nighthawk
06-12-2007, 01:14 PM
I'm on my OWN side and those I love. God, whether existing or not, matters not one iota to me. As far as God is concerned, I've more use for a dog turd than the idiot gods that mankind has invented over the centuries.

Evakian
06-12-2007, 01:20 PM
Most people in Religion forums on the internet actually claim that they are "On the side of God". Are they? Are you?
I tried to get on the side of God, then He started yelling something about rape and the police arrested me.

DarkFantasy96
06-12-2007, 05:13 PM
I tried to get on the side of God, then He started yelling something about rape and the police arrested me.
That sure does seem to happen to you a lot. :hula:

Inviolable
06-12-2007, 10:37 PM
I tried to get on the side of God, then He started yelling something about rape and the police arrested me.

No, those are just voices in your head, if it was actaully God, you'd have commone sense.

Evakian
06-13-2007, 08:23 AM
No, those are just voices in your head, if it was actaully God, you'd have commone sense.
Commone sounds like a French gadget or Detroit rapper.

Either of which include rape in their umbrella of things they do.

So, my commone sense was right.

Or was it?

Dun dun dun

Inviolable
06-13-2007, 09:29 AM
Commone sounds like a French gadget or Detroit rapper.

Either of which include rape in their umbrella of things they do.

So, my commone sense was right.

Or was it?

Dun dun dun

Fioled again!

paulc
06-13-2007, 05:00 PM
As the man says.
I dont believe in god, but Im afraid of him.
Be a Catholic, you can do whatyou want then confess on your deathbed and are forgiven, its great.

tucker58
06-14-2007, 02:26 PM
OH MY :)

Inviolable, your open minded non-Christians are an interesting bunch :)

I'm on my OWN side and those I love. God, whether existing or not, matters not one iota to me. As far as God is concerned, I've more use for a dog turd than the idiot gods that mankind has invented over the centuries.

Funny as it may seem :) NightHawk has posted words of wisdom. The question is: How can one sort through the mess to find out if there is a real One? If one was so inclined :)

Evakian you are funny and remind me of me. I was explaining to God one day that He had me captive and helpless. God said to me the I had Him captive and helpless. I sad, "What!!!"

Paulc :) a healthy fear of God is probably a good idea. One never knows about that, but it might be.

Humm!

If one was a true mystic they would reach a point where God becomes the "Undifferentciated Absolute". Which simply put means, "God just is". And at that point things get interesting. :) And if you give God any emotional qualities but "Love", then you limit He/She/It. With the exception of "Love", the more that you say, God is this and/or that, the farther you get from God; and the less God can do for you.

Input? Anybody?

Tucker58