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Foolsworth
06-02-2007, 07:20 PM
There ISN'Y a GoD or Supreme being,A Creator who has
inspired the Bible and many,many peoples,no matter the Deity,
Than .... What.
This is it ?
This life and nothing else.?
Nothing more important than dust to dust,ashes to ashes.
That seems like such a waste.
Why ISN'T it a good idea to have God.
After all Man IS a rational animal.
I,nor any man,now or throughout time immemorial,cannot
prove one way or another if there really is a God.
Religion insists upon Faith.
I like Faith.
We all have some kind of Faith in something.
Whether or not it is something as simple as Faith the TV will
keep running,year after year.
Faith that Summer will come,as well as Winter,every year.
Faith that Rain will help during a drought.
W/O Faith Mankind is merely a shell of bodily functions and
brain waves that may or may not portend to do mush besides eat,
sleep and engage in sex or monkeyshines.
I Digress
Sparky2
06-02-2007, 07:28 PM
There are worse things than a life of eating, sleeping, and sexual monkeyshines, sir.
And just what if; God wants to you enjoy the whole business of eating, sleeping, screwing, and monkeying-around?
What then?
OldPhart
06-02-2007, 07:44 PM
God wants to you enjoy the whole business of eating, sleeping, screwing, and monkeying-around?
I certainly hope that's the case..... :D
Foolsworth
06-02-2007, 08:30 PM
There are worse things than a life of eating, sleeping, and sexual monkeyshines, sir.
And just what if; God wants to you enjoy the whole business of eating, sleeping, screwing, and monkeying-around?
What then?
To Be a Glutton,no matter by food,punishment or pleasure is
NOT a gOOt Tink !
Even Daffy Duck ,nude dat.
littlejoe
06-02-2007, 08:35 PM
To Be a Glutton,no matter by food,punishment or pleasure is
NOT a gOOt Tink !
Even Daffy Duck ,nude dat.:lolhit:
Foolsworth
06-02-2007, 08:36 PM
There are worse things than a life of eating, sleeping, and sexual monkeyshines, sir.
And just what if; God wants to you enjoy the whole business of eating, sleeping, screwing, and monkeying-around?
What then?
" what if " .... If is the middle word in Life.
What if GoD don't like 'if's' and's or Butts.
Y'know like Brittany Spears gettin real cutesy and jig swirlin her
butt cakes,to appease the gods of easy money.
TurdFerguson
06-02-2007, 08:57 PM
Foolsworth, you crack me up! :lolhit:
Nighthawk
06-13-2007, 10:09 AM
Let's analyse the initial post in some depth as it is a common type of argument which basically says "I need God to make sense out of my pathetic little life" or "Religion makes life's little vicissitudes easier to handle and is a heckuva lot cheaper than Psychotherapy!".....
So I'll copy the post in toto as it's not overlong.
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There ISN'Y a GoD or Supreme being,A Creator who has
inspired the Bible and many,many peoples,no matter the Deity,
Than .... What.
The answer to What? is simple Nature, Family, Humanity, Earth, Art, Science, Civilization, in fact quite a bit remains to enrich and ennoble ones life besides God.[B]
This is it ?
This life and nothing else.?
Nothing more important than dust to dust,ashes to ashes.
That seems like such a waste.
It may "seem" a waste, and in fact may be a waste, but that doesn't change things one iota. Nature cares nothing for how you or I feel. Leprosy sucks, yet it exists. Life might have been better without such a horrid disease, yet it existed because the bacillus that generates the disease was until recently invincible. All good stories come to and end, and eventually so will you, me and everthing else, the Nation, Civilization, even the Earth. That's the nature of our lives. And unfortunately, there's no complaint box to file away ones grievances about the way Nature operates, nor will any complaint be heard. Is it all a waste? In many ways yes it is, but Nature, especially when it comes to living beings is extremely wasteful and cares nothing about individuals or species.
Why ISN'T it a good idea to have God.
After all Man IS a rational animal.
You just answered you own question. It is not rational to invent imaginary friends in the sky who can do nothing to help you anyway. The concept of God has been a hindrance to science, philosophy, art, in fact civilization causing far more harm than the triffling few goods it does. The rational person seeks the truth no matter how ugly or foul the truth may be and prefers an ugly truth to a pleasant fantasy.
I,nor any man,now or throughout time immemorial,cannot
prove one way or another if there really is a God.
You have committed one of the commonest informal logic fallacies, the one known as the Ad Ignorantium fallacy or the Argument from Ignorance.
I'll explain it because it has TWO forms.
You can't prove something TRUE, therefore it must be false.
You can't prove soemthing FALSE, therefore it must be true.
Take note and try not to make the same mistake in the future!
Religion insists upon Faith.
I like Faith.
We all have some kind of Faith in something.
Whether or not it is something as simple as Faith the TV will
keep running,year after year.
Faith that Summer will come,as well as Winter,every year.
Faith that Rain will help during a drought.
W/O Faith Mankind is merely a shell of bodily functions and
brain waves that may or may not portend to do mush besides eat,
sleep and engage in sex or monkeyshines.
I Digress
You are totally correct to say Faith is good, or at least certain types of faith. You are right in saying that without faith that you'll arrive at work safely each day and get back safely, then your life would be crippled. If you lived in constant doubt of your spouse's fidelity, you'd wreck your marriage and destroy love. And faith in yourself above all is the best kind of faith in all.
Here's a quote from a religious man, a Vedantist Swami Vivekananda for you
"You have faith in God, good. To have faith in oneself is better."
But then there's a BAD kind of faith, the type of faith built of credulousness, or accepting statements without analysing them, subjecting them to truth tests, blind, unreasoning faith. That kind of faith causes great harm to us all.
It is this type of faith that allows con-men to swindle you out of your paycheck. It's this type of faith that spreads vicious rumors about other people without even bothering to see if the rumor has any truth in it. It is this type of irrational belief that spreads ancient traditions without seeing if the traditions have any evidential basis. It is this type of faith that keeps man enchained to the horrible creeds invented by clergymen and priests of all stripes. Avoid this type of faith, you'll never never need it and it may harm or kill you. This is the type of faith that causes a man to strap on a bomb and blow up a schoolbus of Jews. It is a pernicious evil type of faith indeed.
But by all means have faith in yourself, believe in yourself and your rights to exist, your right to be FREE. That's a very proper kind of faith. We all NEED this type of faith. This is the faith that enabled man to land on the moon. We believed we could do it! And so we did. That is the faith that a good boxer who knows his art and has trained well has before a boxing match. That is GOOD faith!
Do you see?