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BorgHunter
06-02-2007, 12:50 PM
I am pleased to announce that Allforums has a new moderator. Sparky2 has graciously accepted the unenviable job of Allforums moderator. I am confident he will perform well in the task, so please join me in thanking him for this! :)
hclager
06-02-2007, 01:02 PM
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3107/clappingrk7.gif
mikezila
06-02-2007, 03:39 PM
yeah!
now he has to be online more!
The Dude
06-02-2007, 04:34 PM
Welcome to the team Sparky2 :)
Its good having you on board!!
~Sal~
06-02-2007, 05:26 PM
Hey Sparkster,
Glad to here that you have become a target....oops, um moderator. You are level headed and hopefully will stay that way even under pressure...ooooor, off with your head.
Okay seriously, delighted to hear it and thanks for giving your time and willingness to endure the bullshit. I think Vile and Borg display an amazing amount of patience and hopefully you will be able to relieve their workload a bit.
Thanks to all three of you.
Sparky2
06-02-2007, 07:14 PM
Thank you, Sal, and all of the allforums crowd.
Remember that this honor is not about me, nor is it about the duties, the responsibilities, or the trials and tribulations of the admin crowd.
It's about the PERKS!!
I'm talking about the allforums WET BAR, complete with all those little airline bottles of Makers Mark bourbon, the Glenlivet, and Stolichnaya vodka.
It's about the fancy company car. In this case, the Allforums PT Cruiser with the woody sides and the suicide doors.
It's about the allforums groupies. The ragged collection of loose-moraled slatterns, each and every one a severely-flawed jewel. Thong panties and all.
And it's about the per diem. The cash allowance for traveling to various international destinations, and negotiating the internet rights for this web-forum to stand alone in a sea of web-forums, with rare bandwidth, high connection speed, and exceptional baud-rate.
In short? It's all about the allforums bling-bling. The fancy suits, the chrome 9mm handguns, and the music-studio strap-hangers.
But don't think for one moment that all this will go to my head.
Oh no, sir. Not even one little bit.
If I appear larger than life, swollen with authority, and giddy with power?
Remember that this is what I was born to.
It is my destiny.
And thank you for understanding if I am ever forced to ban you, and have your entire family whisked-away to some sort of Government safe house.
That's just part of the job.
Okay?
:eek:
Evakian
06-02-2007, 07:25 PM
I popped in to congratulate Sparky when I was given the news.
Woot.
littlejoe
06-02-2007, 07:58 PM
congrats dickhead. :thumbs:
thank u sir:cool:
LionelHutz
06-02-2007, 09:45 PM
He's biased against me. I want someone else.
Vilepagan
06-02-2007, 09:50 PM
Yeah, but everyone's biased against you, Lionel. ;)
OldPhart
06-02-2007, 10:18 PM
...and he doesn't like me either!
He's southern and a err... ex-military... and ummmm.... has facial hair!... that's it people with facial hair cannot be trusted!
Good choice BTW, welcome to moderation Sparky! :)
(if I pick on Warrior, it's not because I think she is "looney tunes".... hmmm.... well I guess it is, that I think she is a imbecile).... forget I said that... it just slipped out. She's kind of like FT without any debating skills.
Have you noticed that the "evil right-wingers" tend not to use inflamatory "quotes" in their sig.?, or is it just me?
Ride4Life
06-02-2007, 11:14 PM
Congratulations Sparky, for accepting the thankless job of babysitting a bunch of spoiled brats and whining children with little little or no morality levels.
Does this mean we'll have bow in silence upon the entrance of your overinflated ego at your coronation party? If it does, let me check my schedule and see if I'm busy that day. Yup, I am.
I have only one request of your holy power tripness...
Can you loose that ridiculous avatar of a Honda 90, and replace it with something more becoming of your arrogance?
jennygadling
06-02-2007, 11:59 PM
congrats!!! MUAH!
littlejoe
06-03-2007, 06:43 AM
I have only one request of your holy power tripness...
Can you loose that ridiculous avatar of a Honda 90, and replace it with something more becoming of your arrogance?
http://images.easyart.com/i/prints/rw/lg/1/3/Disney-Officer-Goofy-133191.jpg:lolhit:
jerejerebinks
06-03-2007, 09:06 AM
No fair. I need to be bumped up from managing the hell hole that is the games section. (Only kidding about the hell hole part)
Congrats Sparky. *sharpens his long blade and patiently waits for Sparky to turn his back*
jerejerebinks
06-03-2007, 09:11 AM
Let it be known - that I am openly campaigning for the next moderator opening.
Congratulations Sweetie! :flowers:
DarkFantasy96
06-03-2007, 01:05 PM
Congrats sparky!
~Sal~
06-03-2007, 01:11 PM
Congratulations Sweetie! :flowers:
Um, was I hallucinating or were you going south for the summer? *shakes head* I need to switch wines maybe.
edited because I haven't had a drink yet today... my spelling improves exponensially... hm, maybe that is just an illusion, ya think?
Sparky2
06-03-2007, 01:13 PM
She's right here in the hot tub, with me.
:eek:
(Later on, we're going to go for a ride on my Honda CL-90 Scrambler.)
:cool:
http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/images/b/bd/1969-Honda-CL90-Black-4525-2.jpg
~Sal~
06-03-2007, 01:16 PM
She's right here in the hot tub, with me.
:eek:
(Later on, we're going to go for a ride on my Honda CL-90 Scrambler.)
:cool:
http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/images/b/bd/1969-Honda-CL90-Black-4525-2.jpg
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaah alrighty then.
When she whispers in your hairy ear about banning me, remember my promise to you and if you can't remember...well, make something up.... :D:drive:
Um, was I hallucinating or where you going south for the summer? *shakes head* I need to switch wines maybe.
No, you weren't. I was going to Puerto Rico for the summer but things changed. Sammy got sick so I cancelled it.
Then I was offered to go to Sparky's for a ride in his hot tub AND his motorcycle. I couldn't say no to that! :D
Sparky2
06-03-2007, 01:19 PM
I have no banning powers, darling girl.
And even if I did, I would never do anything to deprive allforums of its greatest Canadian asset.
:flowers:
~Sal~
06-03-2007, 01:19 PM
No, you weren't. I was going to Puerto Rico for the summer but things changed. Sammy got sick so I cancelled it.
Then I was offered to go to Sparky's for a ride in his hot tub AND his motorcycle. I couldn't say no to that! :D
um that conjures up hot tub images that are absolutely well, interesting... :eek: :hahanot:
Is Sammy ok? :(
um that conjures up hot tub images that are absolutely well, interesting... :eek: :hahanot:
Is Sammy ok? :(
Sparky DOES keep it interesting!!! ;)
Yes, he'll be ok.He musta got a bug. Thanks for asking.:flowers:
Then I was offered to go to Sparky's for a ride in his hot tub AND his motorcycle.:D
That should have been ON his motorcycle.:hahanot: * I need sleep*
~Sal~
06-03-2007, 01:40 PM
Sparky DOES keep it interesting!!! ;)
Yes, he'll be ok.He musta got a bug. Thanks for asking.:flowers:
Tch, you were just baiting me to see if I would weep when you left. *blows nose, and wipes eyes* sniffs and throws the snot rag at ya.
glad it's only a minor illness...
Tch, you were just baiting me to see if I would weep when you left. *blows nose, and wipes eyes* sniffs and throws the snot rag at ya.
glad it's only a minor illness...
hahaha. I doubt anyone cried because I left, but I know I cried because I had to come back.
Thanks, me too.
*Excuse me now, Sparkys untying my suit.. and wel....later doll*
~Sal~
06-03-2007, 02:00 PM
hahaha. I doubt anyone cried because I left, but I know I cried because I had to come back.
Thanks, me too.
*Excuse me now, Sparkys untying my suit.. and wel....later doll*
before he gets at it, there's a thread in religion all about pheromones you might wanna check that baby out first....
put your helmet on Sparkster.... safety first....
baaaaaaaaaahahahahah...
es347fan
06-03-2007, 07:15 PM
Sparky's a mod? Geezzzzz.. they'll let anyone have that job. Probably want us to address him as "sir sparky" or some such.
mikezila
06-03-2007, 07:52 PM
Sparky's a mod? Geezzzzz.. they'll let anyone have that job. Probably want us to address him as "sir sparky" or some such.
i think we can get away with "Mr. Sparky"....or "Sparky II"
Sparky2
06-03-2007, 08:05 PM
I would prefer to be addressed simply as "Senor Sparquelito".
It is not a nickname, it was actually given to me at birth, and then codified at my baptism.
My papa, Gepeto de' Basquo, thought that it had a kind of ring to it.
In earlier years, he had apparently named one of the goats he tended 'Sparquelito', just to see if the other goats would laugh or anything.
I guess they didn't.
My mama Maria admonished him not to name me so, "Please Gepeto, donna name hima after dot goat. He's a gonna get hissa ass beat atta school!"
A more stubborn and willful goat-herder never drew a breath though than my papa, and so Sparquelito was how I was christened.
I am proud though, to be Sqarquelito de' Basquo, bohemian goat-boy and gadfly.
The name suits my lifestyle as a lay-about, wine-taster, raconteur, and all around sporty fellow.
Although, I could be convinced to change it to Sally Sluttyheadcheerleader.
I don't know, I will have to sleep on that one.
:rolleyes:
~Sal~
06-03-2007, 10:24 PM
Although, I could be convinced to change it to Sally Sluttyheadcheerleader.
I don't know, I will have to sleep on that one.
:rolleyes: I am going to take that as a direct attack upon me. Printing my full name like that out in public is putting me directly into harms way. I am gonna send a letter to the mods requesting banning.
I am going to take that as a direct attack upon me. Printing my full name like that out in public is putting me directly into harms way. I am gonna send a letter to the mods requesting banning.
With a name like that, you deserve to be banned. You have my vote.
MODS,ban her!
es347fan
06-04-2007, 08:08 AM
With a name like that, you deserve to be banned. You have my vote.
MODS,ban her!
That's mean & discriminatory, regardless of how valid your sentiments might be. Nobody forced her to acknowledge an identity, one could easily have read it as another of Senior Sparquito's ramblings and thought no more of it.
:lolhit:
Travh20
06-04-2007, 11:09 AM
finally one of us has made it into the upper echelon! Now it's payback time :rant:
mikezila
06-04-2007, 11:29 AM
With a name like that, you deserve to be banned. You have my vote.
MODS,ban her!
Burn her!!!
wait..that's Sal :confused:
Roast her!!!
MrsKimi
06-04-2007, 11:57 AM
I am pleased to announce that Allforums has a new moderator. Sparky2 has graciously accepted the unenviable job of Allforums moderator. I am confident he will perform well in the task, so please join me in thanking him for this! :)
Yippee!!! I think it's great!
:)
Kimi
smartmouthwoman
06-04-2007, 12:40 PM
I am pleased to announce that Allforums has a new moderator. Sparky2 has graciously accepted the unenviable job of Allforums moderator. I am confident he will perform well in the task, so please join me in thanking him for this! :)
Congrats, Sparky!!!
Um, when you get settled into your new tower, could we have a little conversation about my 'permanent file' Vile keeps in his bottom drawer. It's full of lies, I tell you... LIES, LIES, LIES.
Kidding aside... look forward to seeing you around more.
:)
SMW
batgirl
06-04-2007, 07:51 PM
Congrat, sparky how much do you get paid?
mikezila
06-04-2007, 07:55 PM
Congrat, sparky how much do you get paid?
:lolhit:
~Sal~
06-04-2007, 08:07 PM
*pokes head slowly and carefully into room* slowly scans room looking for banning poll....
feels a little warm
sniffs
smells scorched feathers...
makes hasty retreat....
Overdose
06-04-2007, 08:35 PM
Nail in the coffin.
Adios.
Nail in the coffin.
Adios.
Ciao.
*sniffs*
Is something burning?
mikezila
06-04-2007, 08:50 PM
*pokes head slowly and carefully into room* slowly scans room looking for banning poll....
feels a little warm
sniffs
smells scorched feathers...
makes hasty retreat....
where are you going?:confused:
anybody have a fork?
es347fan
06-04-2007, 09:13 PM
Nail in the coffin.
Adios.
That's sooo gay.
:stfu
:woohoo:
Overdose
06-06-2007, 01:37 AM
After much thought, I’ve decided to post my thoughts on Sparky becoming the new moderator here at Allforums. Contrary to the majority opinion, I’m displeased with this choice. Not only do I believe it was un-necessary to find another moderator, the one who was chosen is someone I don’t think will do a good job. I hope I’m wrong.
Sparky has a habit of diagnosing people with their supposed, “problems” and “mental issues”. He claims to do it out of love and support, however, I don’t buy it. When someone disagrees with him, instead of arguing about the issue, (for the most part) he goes straight for their personality flaws, mental issues and advises them on what they should do to fix them. Sparky honestly believes he is qualified to diagnosis and give people advice!
My question is, who asked him for this advice?
To be honest, I think he does it to boost his ego, feel some importance in life and to avoid the issue being debated. Maybe he wanted to be a preacher as a little kid and never got to do it? The point is, most come to Allforums to debate and have fun, not be told by an un-qualified person their problems and what they should do to fix them. No one asks Sparky for his opinion. Why Sparky feels he is justified in volunteering his opinion on someone's flaws is beyond me and could be considered harassment. Maybe he should focus on the issue being debated, and not come up with some bullshit reason why the person he disagrees with isn’t normal (thus trying to destroy their credibility).
Maybe he’ll change as a moderator? I’ll be keeping my eyes open and if he doesn’t, Allforums truly has hit rock bottom by picking such a moderator.
PS: His hate thread about me does not show he is "level-headed". He apologized, yes, but it was a half-ass apology. And usually history is a good indication of the future. Will he act differently as a moderator? I don't know. All I have to go on is his history, which isn't a good one, in my opinion.
Sparky2
06-06-2007, 06:06 AM
Your opinion is noted, sir.
I look at the duties and responsibilities of being a moderator as a privilege, and not one to be taken lightly. That said, please understand that there is no ego attached to this assignment, nor are there any exceptional powers or authorities that come with the job. (Compared to the three folks with Admin rights, you could look at the Admins as more the Sheriff and Deputy Sheriff’s, and me something akin to a crossing guard.)
I get to try and help keep sense of order and sanity to the flow of information and ideas crossing the highway, and generally just monitor that everything stays roughly within the painted stripes.
OD, I spent quite a few years as a leader, supervisor, counselor, instructor, and mentor. In that capacity, and especially in my career field (aviation), I was expected to monitor the physical and emotional health of the aviators under my charge, and advise the command on their fitness to perform their critical duties. More often than any of us would like to think possible, I had the responsibility to advise whether somebody was sane and stable enough to wear the wings on their chest, and to strap on a multi-million dollar helicopter and go fly into combat.
I will concede of course that observing the psychology of the posters to a web forum and advising on the psychological fitness of aviators are two vastly different propositions. But it is a switch that you just can’t flip on and flip off at will. I am a lifelong student of psychology, and when somebody posts to a public web-forum in a staggering display of (oh, I don’t know, choose one: monomania, bi-polar disorder, obsession/compulsion, bitter anger, depression, suicidal rage, and delusional behavior) I have been heretofore compelled to comment and perhaps advise.
My intention now of course (now that I’ve been asked to serve as a moderator for this web forum), is to hold my tongue, and to keep my opinions regarding the monomania, bi-polar disorder, obsession/compulsion, and delusional behavior of the posters to myself.
Please allow me though to step in when somebody creates dissention with their bitter anger, and/or suicidal rage. Especially if and when they communicate threats of violence to themselves or others.
As to the charge of not engaging in the lengthy, point-by-point debates?
I plead guilty of course.
I find that sort of thing tedious, and the bottom line is that most of the folks I would have to debate with are never going to change their mind anyway.
Me personally, I’d rather just keep it humorous, and maybe even poke fun at those who argue their points with just a bit too much passion and zeal.
In that regard, I have indeed apologized for my thoughtless postings last year involving the small, mewly cat, the lazy-eyed lady in Ohio, and of course Madonna.
Please accept those heartfelt apologies in the spirit in which they were offered, and let’s please move on. You and I are slightly different people than we were then, and I like to think that we are above all that now.
As a mod now, I will do my best to curb my sarcastic impulses, and to keep my humor light and non-confrontational. That is my promise to you, and to all the other members of the allforums family. That’s the best I can do.
Have a great summer, OD. I am excited for you now that you are headed to University, and proud for all that you have accomplished.
:thumbs:
BorgHunter
06-06-2007, 10:08 AM
After much thought, I’ve decided to post my thoughts on Sparky becoming the new moderator here at Allforums. Contrary to the majority opinion, I’m displeased with this choice. Not only do I believe it was un-necessary to find another moderator
Perhaps it was unnecessary. I don't think three (consistent; Drew isn't around much) for a board of this size is excessive, however.
Sparky has a habit of diagnosing people with their supposed, “problems” and “mental issues”. He claims to do it out of love and support, however, I don’t buy it. When someone disagrees with him, instead of arguing about the issue, (for the most part) he goes straight for their personality flaws, mental issues and advises them on what they should do to fix them. Sparky honestly believes he is qualified to diagnosis and give people advice!
My question is, who asked him for this advice?
To be honest, I think he does it to boost his ego, feel some importance in life and to avoid the issue being debated. Maybe he wanted to be a preacher as a little kid and never got to do it? The point is, most come to Allforums to debate and have fun, not be told by an un-qualified person their problems and what they should do to fix them. No one asks Sparky for his opinion.
On the contrary, this being a discussion forum, opinions are constantly solicited, however, it is implied rather than explicitly stated. I'm always interested in opinions, regardless of on what topic, really. Or, if I'm not interested in a topic, I ignore the thread. Would I be terribly pleased if he started saying I had a mental problem? Well, honestly, probably not, though if I had enough people tell me that I might start taking them seriously. And as long as he's not mean about it, I don't see what the big deal is.
(Psssst, by the way. You're volunteering your opinion on his flaws with, "To be honest, I think he does it to boost his ego, feel some importance in life and to avoid the issue being debated. Maybe he wanted to be a preacher as a little kid and never got to do it?")
Overdose
06-06-2007, 10:22 AM
Your opinion is noted, sir.
I look at the duties and responsibilities of being a moderator as a privilege, and not one to be taken lightly. That said, please understand that there is no ego attached to this assignment, nor are there any exceptional powers or authorities that come with the job. (Compared to the three folks with Admin rights, you could look at the Admins as more the Sheriff and Deputy Sheriff’s, and me something akin to a crossing guard.)
I get to try and help keep sense of order and sanity to the flow of information and ideas crossing the highway, and generally just monitor that everything stays roughly within the painted stripes.
OD, I spent quite a few years as a leader, supervisor, counselor, instructor, and mentor. In that capacity, and especially in my career field (aviation), I was expected to monitor the physical and emotional health of the aviators under my charge, and advise the command on their fitness to perform their critical duties. More often than any of us would like to think possible, I had the responsibility to advise whether somebody was sane and stable enough to wear the wings on their chest, and to strap on a multi-million dollar helicopter and go fly into combat.
I will concede of course that observing the psychology of the posters to a web forum and advising on the psychological fitness of aviators are two vastly different propositions. But it is a switch that you just can’t flip on and flip off at will. I am a lifelong student of psychology, and when somebody posts to a public web-forum in a staggering display of (oh, I don’t know, choose one: monomania, bi-polar disorder, obsession/compulsion, bitter anger, depression, suicidal rage, and delusional behavior) I have been heretofore compelled to comment and perhaps advise.
My intention now of course (now that I’ve been asked to serve as a moderator for this web forum), is to hold my tongue, and to keep my opinions regarding the monomania, bi-polar disorder, obsession/compulsion, and delusional behavior of the posters to myself.
Please allow me though to step in when somebody creates dissention with their bitter anger, and/or suicidal rage. Especially if and when they communicate threats of violence to themselves or others.
As to the charge of not engaging in the lengthy, point-by-point debates?
I plead guilty of course.
I find that sort of thing tedious, and the bottom line is that most of the folks I would have to debate with are never going to change their mind anyway.
Me personally, I’d rather just keep it humorous, and maybe even poke fun at those who argue their points with just a bit too much passion and zeal.
In that regard, I have indeed apologized for my thoughtless postings last year involving the small, mewly cat, the lazy-eyed lady in Ohio, and of course Madonna.
Please accept those heartfelt apologies in the spirit in which they were offered, and let’s please move on. You and I are slightly different people than we were then, and I like to think that we are above all that now.
As a mod now, I will do my best to curb my sarcastic impulses, and to keep my humor light and non-confrontational. That is my promise to you, and to all the other members of the allforums family. That’s the best I can do.
Have a great summer, OD. I am excited for you now that you are headed to University, and proud for all that you have accomplished.
:thumbs:
I don't see how you can make these observations and judgments based on postings made online. I, personally, don't act completely how I do in real life on Allforums. I also don't think you have enough evidence nor right to claim somone has a, "disorder".
The people who fly helicopters know what they have to go through in order to fly them. People who join Allforums don't join to be preached by someone who has little evidence to support his claims, nor does anyone ask you for advice. Until someone asks, please don't volunteer your opinions on someone's personality flaws.
If you don't want to debate the issue, don't create a personal feud by attacking someone's character and claiming they have issues they need to deal with. It isn't productive and makes threads turn into flame wars. I'd suggest turning that switch off or at least do it through PM's, not where the whole entire forum has to be subjected to these mindless rants on someone's supposed "problems".
I'm not trying to be mean, just honest. I've seen you do this to several members and it always turns out badly. It isn't helpful to the forum nor any of the members.
I'm glad you are going to try and change as a moderator, and as I said, I hope you do. Otherwise, I'll be very angry and upset.
Overdose
06-06-2007, 10:27 AM
I don't think three (consistent; Drew isn't around much) for a board of this size is excessive, however.
I do.
Would I be terribly pleased if he started saying I had a mental problem? Well, honestly, probably not, though if I had enough people tell me that I might start taking them seriously. And as long as he's not mean about it, I don't see what the big deal is.
Sparky has been mean about it, several times. It has, indeed, crossed the line of expressing an opinion to plain harassment.
(Psssst, by the way. You're volunteering your opinion on his flaws with, "To be honest, I think he does it to boost his ego, feel some importance in life and to avoid the issue being debated. Maybe he wanted to be a preacher as a little kid and never got to do it?")
Sparky's been put in a moderator position and thus I should be allowed to express my concerns over this decision. When you accept a higher position, you should expect flack and people expressing their concerns. You should not, however, expect presonal attacks during political debates and discussions.
BorgHunter
06-06-2007, 10:32 AM
Sparky's been put in a moderator position and thus I should be allowed to express my concerns over this decision. When you accept a higher position, you should expect flack and people expressing their concerns. You should not, however, expect presonal attacks during political debates and discussions.
You're comparing moderating this board to political office? Jeez. It's more like janitorial work.
Why don't you give him a chance, the benefit of the doubt?
LionelHutz
06-06-2007, 11:18 AM
I do.
So what? It's not your damn board. You don't get a veto. Arg.
Overdose
06-06-2007, 12:26 PM
You're comparing moderating this board to political office? Jeez. It's more like janitorial work.
Good way to avoid the issue. :@@:
Why don't you give him a chance, the benefit of the doubt?
I said I'm glad he is going to try and changes and that I'll keep my eyes open. I think that's giving him the "benefit of the doubt".
-----
So what? It's not your damn board. You don't get a veto. Arg.
As a member I can voice my opinion on the changes here at Allforums. You don't have to agree, and I know I don't have any "power", but I do have a right to voice my opinion.
When did I say I had veto power?
mikezila
06-06-2007, 02:01 PM
Good way to avoid the issue. :@@:
oh, you certainly have issues:rolleyes:
Overdose
06-06-2007, 03:30 PM
oh, you certainly have issues:rolleyes:
I love your signature. Paris Hilton is very funny and a nice girl. :)
DarkFantasy96
06-06-2007, 04:07 PM
(Psssst, by the way. You're volunteering your opinion on his flaws with, "To be honest, I think he does it to boost his ego, feel some importance in life and to avoid the issue being debated. Maybe he wanted to be a preacher as a little kid and never got to do it?")
Hah.
es347fan
06-06-2007, 07:13 PM
I don't see how you can make these observations and judgments based on postings made online. I, personally, don't act completely how I do in real life on Allforums. I also don't think you have enough evidence nor right to claim somone has a, "disorder".
I disagree. An individual will reveal much of their personality from their writings. In fact, it is likely that this forum enjoys a level of individual veracity thanks in part to the anonymity, thanks in part to the types of discussions ongoing.
The people who fly helicopters know what they have to go through in order to fly them.
Very profound. Your point?
Otherwise, I'll be very angry and upset.
You are completely responsible for the way you feel.
:rant:
Vilepagan
06-06-2007, 07:27 PM
I disagree. An individual will reveal much of their personality from their writings. In fact, it is likely that this forum enjoys a level of individual veracity thanks in part to the anonymity, thanks in part to the types of discussions ongoing.
Doesn't that anonymity also make it difficult, if not impossible, to determine with any certainty whether the author is in fact being truthful with you? You can assume that their anonymity makes them more likely to be truthful, but you have no way of verifying your assumption.
You are completely responsible for the way you feel.
I would say that we are often not responsible for how we feel, but we certainly are responsible for how we act on those feelings.
Foolsworth
06-06-2007, 08:54 PM
[QUOTE=Sparky2]Your opinion is noted, sir.
I look at the duties and responsibilities of being a moderator as a privilege, and not one to be taken lightly. That said, please understand that there is no ego attached to this assignment, nor are there any exceptional powers or authorities that come with the job. (Compared to the three folks with Admin rights, you could look at the Admins as more the Sheriff and Deputy Sheriff’s, and me something akin to a crossing guard.)
I get to try and help keep sense of order and sanity to the flow of information and ideas crossing the highway, and generally just monitor that everything stays roughly within the painted stripes.
OD, I spent quite a few years as a leader, supervisor, counselor, instructor, and mentor. In that capacity, and especially in my career field (aviation), I was expected to monitor the physical and emotional health of the aviators under my charge, and advise the command on their fitness to perform their critical duties. More often than any of us would like to think possible, I had the responsibility to advise whether somebody was sane and stable enough to wear the wings on their chest, and to strap on a multi-million dollar helicopter and go fly into combat.
I will concede of course that observing the psychology of the posters to a web forum and advising on the psychological fitness of aviators are two vastly different propositions. But it is a switch that you just can’t flip on and flip off at will. I am a lifelong student of psychology, and when somebody posts to a public web-forum in a staggering display of (oh, I don’t know, choose one: monomania, bi-polar disorder, obsession/compulsion, bitter anger, depression, suicidal rage, and delusional behavior) I have been heretofore compelled to comment and perhaps advise.
My intention now of course (now that I’ve been asked to serve as a moderator for this web forum), is to hold my tongue, and to keep my opinions regarding the monomania, bi-polar disorder, obsession/compulsion, and delusional behavior of the posters to myself.
Please allow me though to step in when somebody creates dissention with their bitter anger, and/or suicidal rage. Especially if and when they communicate threats of violence to themselves or others.
As to the charge of not engaging in the lengthy, point-by-point debates?
I plead guilty of course.
I find that sort of thing tedious, and the bottom line is that most of the folks I would have to debate with are never going to change their mind anyway.
Me personally, I’d rather just keep it humorous, and maybe even poke fun at those who argue their points with just a bit too much passion and zeal.
In that regard, I have indeed apologized for my thoughtless postings last year involving the small, mewly cat, the lazy-eyed lady in Ohio, and of course Madonna.
Please accept those heartfelt apologies in the spirit in which they were offered, and let’s please move on. You and I are slightly different people than we were then, and I like to think that we are above all that now.
As a mod now, I will do my best to curb my sarcastic impulses, and to keep my humor light and non-confrontational. That is my promise to you, and to all the other members of the allforums family. That’s the best I can do.
Have a great summer, OD. I am excited for you now that you are headed to University, and proud for all that you have accomplished.
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Oh !I'd ruther bee a Rocker.
Quadrophenia
Foolsworth
06-06-2007, 09:05 PM
Doesn't that anonymity also make it difficult, if not impossible, to determine with any certainty whether the author is in fact being truthful with you? You can assume that their anonymity makes them more likely to be truthful, but you have no way of verifying your assumption.
I would say that we are often not responsible for how we feel, but we certainly are responsible for how we act on those feelings.
If yer askin if a Mod wood bee more disciplanary-like and effective
if they Put on a Habit,I'd have to say...by all means.
From me firsthand experince with Nuns,They act tough usually
on account of their Garb,and how discomforting it is too go all day,
with little or no hair,and then the Vows ta boot.
I wonder what Vows a Mod will have to undergo.
!.) To Not Swear
2.) No matching of wits.
3.) No snacking whilst Posting {fast food and sticky stuff}
4.) Respect for elders and ALL Clergy,regardless !
5.) No Passing-out w/o correct lane change
6.) No Passing gas,till break
7.) Must have erect sitting posture or else
8.) Jokes must be cleared by the Roman Catholic League of Decency
9.) Playing favorites,like Perry Como Music,is frowned upon.
I could Go on.
Overdose
06-06-2007, 09:31 PM
Doesn't that anonymity also make it difficult, if not impossible, to determine with any certainty whether the author is in fact being truthful with you? You can assume that their anonymity makes them more likely to be truthful, but you have no way of verifying your assumption.
I would say that we are often not responsible for how we feel, but we certainly are responsible for how we act on those feelings.
Thank god I have ES on ignore. :)
Overdose
06-06-2007, 09:37 PM
Hah.
LOL. What are you "hah"ing about. I clearly pointed out the difference between pointing out someone's flaws randomly, versus pointing out someone who is being put in a MODERATOR position (IE: someone who could have an affect on ME posting and being a member of Allforums).
es347fan
06-06-2007, 09:43 PM
I would say that we are often not responsible for how we feel, but we certainly are responsible for how we act on those feelings.
A feeling is an emotional response to a situation. An emotional response is the result of "self-talk" and the interpertation of that situation.
Take for example:
2 young boys - age 6, together on the same sunny, sandy ocean beach. They're neighbors on their first visit to the beach with their parents. They're playing in the sand, near the water. The water is warm and inviting.
Now, think about how beach waves are ... small ones, little bit bigger, then sometimes every 10th or so is a biggie. One of those biggies comes crashing upon the beach quite near (but not in the least endangering either child). One child jumps up from the sand, yells "yippie!" and dashes into the surf. The other child, jumps up, yells "mommaaaaa!!!" and up the beach he runs, terrified.
Each child saw & experienced the very same thing. What was different? Each boy looked at the very same thing and after instant consideration come to their own conclusion. If either child wished to change their reaction to that situation, they would do so after talking it out with themselves.
Emotional responses are the responsibility of the individual.
~Sal~
06-06-2007, 09:49 PM
Doesn't that anonymity also make it difficult, if not impossible, to determine with any certainty whether the author is in fact being truthful with you? You can assume that their anonymity makes them more likely to be truthful, but you have no way of verifying your assumption.
Vile I am truly baffled with your reaction to this whole psychology debacle.
What you seem to be missing here is it doesn't matter if the author is in fact being truthful with you or not. People present however they present.
A pattern emerges. It really isn't that difficult if you are introspective, understand general motivation, and are a people observer, have taken some courses or even just read a lot about human beings. And actually Vile some people who I have met who are pretty dead on with understanding people have never cracked a psych book in their lives. But they can sum a body up pretty quickly upon meeting them.
Why does one suddenly have to be an expert to have an opinion?
I think it would be incorrect to assume that anonymity makes people honest as it in fact does the opposite frequently. It entitles many people to present in ways they wish they were. Or big fat ugly paedophiles can present as 12 year old kids.
DarkFantasy96
06-06-2007, 09:51 PM
LOL. What are you "hah"ing about. I clearly pointed out the difference between pointing out someone's flaws randomly, versus pointing out someone who is being put in a MODERATOR position (IE: someone who could have an affect on ME posting and being a member of Allforums).
The point is that you made such a huge emphasis that he's "not qualified" to make such mental analysis. So are you saying that you ARE qualified, simply because he's a moderator now?
No one asks Sparky for his opinion.
This is a message board and everyone has the right to offer their opinion on things. Are you 12? Do you not get that?
You come off as an anal retentive asshole. I bet if you started using some ky, your ass wouldn't be so chapped and who knows, you might even get a sense of humor.
Sparky~ you're great, don't ever change!
Overdose
06-06-2007, 10:05 PM
The point is that you made such a huge emphasis that he's "not qualified" to make such mental analysis. So are you saying that you ARE qualified, simply because he's a moderator now?
I'm just pointing out a concern I have because Sparky’s been put in a higher position here at Allforums. The problem with Sparky is that he makes mental and un-qualified analyses of posters regularly and to people who don’t ask for his advice or criticisms (that sometimes fall into harassment). If you accept a higher position, you should expect flack and people to voice their opinions on if you will do well in this new position.
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This is a message board and everyone has the right to offer their opinion on things. Are you 12? Do you not get that?
Not if they are crossing the line and become harassment.
You come off as an anal retentive asshole. I bet if you started using some ky, your ass wouldn't be so chapped and who knows, you might even get a sense of humor.
If looking out for Allforums makes me look “anal-retentive” and “whiney” so be it. It is those who complain who create change.
Not if they are crossing the line and become harassment.
If looking out for Allforums makes me look “anal-retentive” and “whiney” so be it. It is those who complain who create change.
Spark offers his opinion, he hasn't harassed a soul here. Oh yeah. You harassed me and called me a slut. Pot, kettle, black.:rolleyes:
Please pull down your skirt, your hypocrisy is showing.
I'm pretty damn sure Borg and Vile wouldn't have offered him the postion if they didn't feel comfortable for him to fit those shoes. So, as for you 'looking out for all forums', hahahahahahahahaha. That's funny.
Overdose
06-06-2007, 10:14 PM
Spark offers his opinion, he hasn't harassed a soul here. Oh yeah. You harassed me and called me a slut. Pot, kettle, black.:rolleyes:
Please pull down your skirt, your hypocrisy is showing.
I'm not a moderator, Sparky is. I personally wouldn't be qualified to be a moderator because of my history, you're right. But, I'm NOT a moderator, Sparky IS and I expect more out of moderators and to not do what he OR I have done in the past. So how am I hypocritical? Sorry I expect more out of moderators. Jeez. Also, Sparky has harassed people, just maybe not you.
I'm pretty damn sure Borg and Vile wouldn't have offered him the postion if they didn't feel comfortable for him to fit those shoes. So, as for you 'looking out for all forums', hahahahahahahahaha. That's funny.
Riiight, because Borg and Vile are always right and know what's best all the time? :lolhit:
Blibblob
06-06-2007, 10:29 PM
I'm pretty damn sure Borg and Vile wouldn't have offered him the postion if they didn't feel comfortable for him to fit those shoes.
Yeah, but Borg told me he started smoking recently, so smart choices don't seem to be him lately.
So, as for you 'looking out for all forums', hahahahahahahahaha. That's funny.
Isn't it though? As far as I'm concerned forums are unfixable due to the difficulty in removing what's necesary without overstepping your bounds. Moderators, unless ridiculously overzealous have little to no effect on a board other than stemming SOME spam. Forums ebb and flow with the people on them, and when it starts to suck, there's nothing that can be done.
TurdFerguson
06-06-2007, 10:29 PM
Wow!
~Sal~
06-06-2007, 10:38 PM
Wow!
Has anyone ever told you that you are extremely verbose Fergie?
No?
I thought not... :D
~Sal~
06-06-2007, 10:39 PM
Yeah, but Borg told me he started smoking recently, so smart choices don't seem to be him lately.
damn, but I am gonna have to whip his ass again...
TurdFerguson
06-06-2007, 10:48 PM
damn, but I am gonna have to whip his ass again...
While you're at it Sal, I've been a very bad boy and need a spanking!:D
~Sal~
06-06-2007, 10:51 PM
While you're at it Sal, I've been a very bad boy and need a spanking!:D
I'll get my chaps out eh?
*searches for matching boots and hat* *and on a last minute thought, grabs spurs and largest whip*
TurdFerguson
06-06-2007, 10:52 PM
Has anyone ever told you that you are extremely verbose Fergie?
No?
I thought not... :D
:lolhit:
I see I'm going to have to keep you occupied while Imp is gone!:D
You're my kind of girl, Sal!:thumbs:
Vilepagan
06-07-2007, 06:16 AM
Vile I am truly baffled with your reaction to this whole psychology debacle.
What you seem to be missing here is it doesn't matter if the author is in fact being truthful with you or not. People present however they present.
It seems a matter of simple logic that you can't accurately diagnose a disease if you are presented with false symptoms.
Why does one suddenly have to be an expert to have an opinion?
I don't think you have to be an expert to have an opinion about someone's general mental state, but that's different than determining that they suffer from a specific mental condition or disease, and I also question the wisdom of stating that opinion publicly. What good can come of it? If the person is mentally unbalanced, they likely won't believe your diagnosis, and if they're not, then you're just wrong.
I think it would be incorrect to assume that anonymity makes people honest as it in fact does the opposite frequently. It entitles many people to present in ways they wish they were. Or big fat ugly paedophiles can present as 12 year old kids.
Quite so, but if you have no other information about such a person, how would you be sure?
DarkFantasy96
06-07-2007, 04:59 PM
Yeah, but Borg told me he started smoking recently, so smart choices don't seem to be him lately.
I heard about that too. It's kinda funny since he made me feel extremely guilty about it when I smoked and we were together...
BorgHunter
06-07-2007, 06:00 PM
damn, but I am gonna have to whip his ass again...
Again?! You've not done that once! I'd definitely have remembered that!
M&Mdelite
06-08-2007, 08:12 PM
Congrats Sparky!!! :)
paulc
06-09-2007, 03:29 AM
Gongratulations Sparkplug.
Will u consider running for office now.
Sparky2
06-09-2007, 01:52 PM
No sir,
Too many skeletons in me closet.
:(
Frogger
06-09-2007, 02:35 PM
Overdose,
Learn to live with it. I happen to think Vilepagan is a terrible moderator and should do what es347fan did when he stepped too far over the boundary of what a moderator should do and resign as a moderator.
I have very little use for Vilepagan but he isn't Allforums, just one small part of it. The other posters are the ones who make it worth while coming here.
If you feel the enjoyment you feel posting here outweighs your negative feelings about Sparky stick around. If you feel differently, it's been nice knowing you.
I nominate jerejerebinks for moderator. I am jumping on that bandwagon before anyone else so that when jerejere does finally become a moderator, say in ten years or so, he will remember who his first supporter was and reward me handsomely.
BorgHunter
06-09-2007, 03:19 PM
Learn to live with it. I happen to think Vilepagan is a terrible moderator and should do what es347fan did when he stepped too far over the boundary of what a moderator should do and resign as a moderator.
How, exactly, did Vile overstep his authority? I've heard you allude to this once or twice but I don't recall actually having the situation explained.
Evakian
06-09-2007, 04:31 PM
In other news, I find Frogger's new sig ghastly. "Never forgive"?
"An eye for an eye and the whole world is blind."
~Sal~
06-09-2007, 05:03 PM
It seems a matter of simple logic that you can't accurately diagnose a disease if you are presented with false symptoms. I don't disagree with that but we are not talking symptoms here like a medical condition. We were discussing behaviour. And I don't recall anyone diagnosing or labelling anyone with any condition. Not that it would be that hard to diagnose what a particular behaviour would indicate, for it wouldn't.
I don't think you have to be an expert to have an opinion about someone's general mental state, but that's different than determining that they suffer from a specific mental condition or disease, and I also question the wisdom of stating that opinion publicly Well I think the people that discussed things here were merely giving an opinion and also stating their own reasons for certain behaviour toward a particular poster.
As for stating it publicly, if someone puts their particular psychological profile "out there" and then melts down on people and uses it as an excuse for said meltdown....well Vile, they are fair fucking game for analysis.
I didn't see you rush to another posters defence when warrior did an analysis on her that was cruel and uncalled for and obviously bit deeply. So why now when we discuss her? You know I respect you completely Vile. You are one of the most level headed, fair people I have ever had the pleasure to post to. I seldom disagree with anything you say. (Maybe that should scare you. :D) I am not calling you out on this, only trying to understand why the discrepancy here... why now?
What good can come of it? If the person is mentally unbalanced, they likely won't believe your diagnosis, and if they're not, then you're just wrong. Again, no one diagnosed only spoke about, discussed and tried to understand exactly what has taken place here over the last few weeks.
That is not unusual nor was it cruel. It is like people who drive past an accident and gawk. Contrary to what people may think, doing so is healthy Vile. You look at the accident... you see the damage, and you think to yourself, damn, how did that happen?
The attacks may have been cruel. Tough shit. I didn't go there. She put herself up for it and like I have said before, the herd cut her and went for her throat.
Why? Well likely because abhorrent is not something people cotton to. It scares them. They attack. It also bonds the herd. I personally am not herd oriented, I tend to stand alone. Big deal for her. She provoked.
Quite so, but if you have no other information about such a person, how would you be sure
Baby nothing in this world is for sure, and THAT'S for sure! ;)
~Sal~
06-09-2007, 05:04 PM
Again?! You've not done that once! I'd definitely have remembered that!
Yeah baby, you DEFINITELY would have remembered that. :D
~Sal~
06-09-2007, 05:08 PM
Overdose,
I happen to think Vilepagan is a terrible moderator and should do what es347fan did when he stepped too far over the boundary of what a moderator should do and resign as a moderator.
I have very little use for Vilepagan but he isn't Allforums, just one small part of it.
Your opinon here is noted Frogger and I respect you and your right to voice it.
So now I shall voice mine. Vilepagan is an exceptional moderator and if he or Borg were to stepdown, I think the place would deteriorate badly and many would flee. Before long the place would be vacant.
As for es, he did an exceptional job here for years and I highly like and respect him also. We lost a great moderator there too.
Blibblob
06-09-2007, 05:18 PM
Learn to live with it. I happen to think Vilepagan is a terrible moderator and should do what es347fan did when he stepped too far over the boundary of what a moderator should do and resign as a moderator.
Vile has never overstepped his bounds. I disagree completely with his views on censorship, but he has never abused his power. He, unlike everybody else on this board, tries to keep people within the lines of the terms of service. I disagree with that, but that does not mean he oversteps his bounds.
OldPhart
06-09-2007, 06:16 PM
The attacks may have been cruel. Tough shit. I didn't go there. She put herself up for it and like I have said before, the herd cut her and went for her throat.
Why? Well likely because abhorrent is not something people cotton to. It scares them. They attack. It also bonds the herd. I personally am not herd oriented, I tend to stand alone. Big deal for her. She provoked.
I don't "cotton" to someone that is an instigator of shit. She was a troll on 80% of her posts, and I called her on it.
Plus, it was fun as hell! :D
~Sal~
06-09-2007, 07:02 PM
I don't "cotton" to someone that is an instigator of shit. She was a troll on 80% of her posts, and I called her on it.
Plus, it was fun as hell! :D
Tch, like I am gonna believe someone with a lime on their head!!!!!!!!!!
Plus cats and ducks well, ya know...
Wait, cats and ducks are cute... :D
Overdose
06-09-2007, 07:13 PM
Learn to live with it. I happen to think Vilepagan is a terrible moderator and should do what es347fan did when he stepped too far over the boundary of what a moderator should do and resign as a moderator.
Uhh, great?
But hey, I'm glad you don't get told you are "complaining" and being a "baby" when you criticize a moderator. :rolleyes:
Blibblob
06-09-2007, 08:25 PM
Uhh, great?
But hey, I'm glad you don't get told you are "complaining" and being a "baby" when you criticize a moderator. :rolleyes:
There's a completely different attitude in your posts. You whine, he's an ass. You complain and complain. He uses subtle cruel jabs.
Overdose
06-10-2007, 12:26 AM
There's a completely different attitude in your posts. You whine, he's an ass. You complain and complain. He uses subtle cruel jabs.
I don't whine or complain. I suggest and promote change to make things better around here. You just think of it in a negative way because you don't like me. Oh well, not my loss.
Frogger
06-10-2007, 07:05 AM
I don't whine or complain. I suggest and promote change to make things better around here. You just think of it in a negative way because you don't like me. Oh well, not my loss.
Nno, Overdose, you do whine and complain, about almost everything. If posters don't like Madonna you whine and complain. If posters say something nasty about Rosie O'Donnel you whine and complain. Face it, OD, you whine and complain about almost everything.
Phyrex
06-10-2007, 07:21 AM
Don't forget Titanic! Bwahaahha
Vilepagan
06-10-2007, 08:39 AM
How, exactly, did Vile overstep his authority? I've heard you allude to this once or twice but I don't recall actually having the situation explained.
I'll be shocked if you get an answer.
es347fan
06-10-2007, 08:49 AM
Don't forget Titanic! Bwahaahha
No shit!
Vilepagan
06-10-2007, 10:40 AM
I don't disagree with that but we are not talking symptoms here like a medical condition. We were discussing behaviour. And I don't recall anyone diagnosing or labelling anyone with any condition. Not that it would be that hard to diagnose what a particular behaviour would indicate, for it wouldn't.
Well I think the people that discussed things here were merely giving an opinion and also stating their own reasons for certain behaviour toward a particular poster.
As for stating it publicly, if someone puts their particular psychological profile "out there" and then melts down on people and uses it as an excuse for said meltdown....well Vile, they are fair fucking game for analysis.
I didn't see you rush to another posters defence when warrior did an analysis on her that was cruel and uncalled for and obviously bit deeply. So why now when we discuss her? You know I respect you completely Vile. You are one of the most level headed, fair people I have ever had the pleasure to post to. I seldom disagree with anything you say. (Maybe that should scare you. :D) I am not calling you out on this, only trying to understand why the discrepancy here... why now?
Again, no one diagnosed only spoke about, discussed and tried to understand exactly what has taken place here over the last few weeks.
That is not unusual nor was it cruel. It is like people who drive past an accident and gawk. Contrary to what people may think, doing so is healthy Vile. You look at the accident... you see the damage, and you think to yourself, damn, how did that happen?
The attacks may have been cruel. Tough shit. I didn't go there. She put herself up for it and like I have said before, the herd cut her and went for her throat.
Why? Well likely because abhorrent is not something people cotton to. It scares them. They attack. It also bonds the herd. I personally am not herd oriented, I tend to stand alone. Big deal for her. She provoked.
Nice post Sal, and thanks for the support. :)
I really didn't intend my post to be a specific reference to a specific post or even to suggest that anyone had made a specific "diagnosis" of warrior. I meant that in general the attacks seemed to gravitate towards her mental state, and while I'll admit she brought a lot of it on herself by mentioning her particular afflictions, it seemed to me that when her weak spot was revealed, there were those who targeted that spot. For what it's worth, I may be a bit oversensitive to the subject of mental illness (my father was a paranoid schizophrenic), and I do tend to side with the underdog, both of which influenced my dealings with warrior.