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tucker58
05-30-2007, 05:08 PM
What happens to "porked" virgins in paradise?

Warrior, and others, should we be concerned?

Why go to Paradise, if they run out of virgins?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Tucker58

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 05:11 PM
well only muslims believe you get virgins when you go to heaven or paradise. I do not think Christians think with thier dick so much well maybe the catholic priest but...

I think as long as the hyme is not broken they get to go to heaven and I think if you have it reconstructed surgically you get to go to heaven.. I do not know. God is a very black and white fellow nor room for grey area.

tucker58
05-30-2007, 05:18 PM
well only muslims believe you get virgins when you go to heaven or paradise. I do not think Christians think with thier dick so much well maybe the catholic priest but...

I think as long as the hyme is not broken they get to go to heaven and I think if you have it reconstructed surgically you get to go to heaven.. I do not know. God is a very black and white fellow nor room for grey area.

Magor "Hugs" warrior! I do love you :) !

It ain't just Christians when it come to guys :) and again "Hugs" (non sexual of course :) ) Ya right :) !

Old Tucker :)

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 05:24 PM
your a funny character welcome to the bored. I am sure people are going to get onto you forever about your smilies though. It seems they will find anything to pick at people. Don't let them change you or convert you or whatever. Be free to be yourself not all of them are bad as you will see but the good ones are more quiet but they are there.

googs
05-30-2007, 05:24 PM
well only muslims believe you get virgins when you go to heaven or paradise. I do not think Christians think with thier dick so much well maybe the catholic priest but...

And what do you think with?

Anyhoo, this is from the link...

“Here Allah mentions the Hoor Al`Een (beautiful wives who have big and lustrous eyes and 'whom no man or Jinn before them has touched' and who are 'Like unto rubies and coral'”) because in most cases men pursue women and not vice versa. As for women, Allah Almighty may marry them to any of the believers in Paradise, if they did not get married during worldly life, or He may compensate them by making them feel content with their position. It is also said that Allah may grant women some kind of beauty with which they will feel that they are better than the Hoor Al-`Een and that they are their mistress, so they will not love anyone other than their own husbands nor will they feel jealous of the Hoor Al-`Een.”


http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543756

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 05:28 PM
and why do I not get 100 virgin men when I go to heaven. What a fucking sexist pig. I mean I want 100 men for just me! Seriously why does all these woman have to share one dick!? I mean that is hardly fair. Do you know how long it will take before I ever get any? I am sorry unless woman get the exact same treatment as men when they go to heaven it is not fair and it is sexist. Why do guys get all the sex?
No wonder woman hardly ever suicide bomb themselves. All they get is a lousy t-shirt and man who has had his dick in 99 woman.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 05:32 PM
oh yeah and tucker you spelled paridise wrong. You know I wouldn't want you to be picked on for grammar and spelling mistakes. It seems to be a big thing here. Personally I think the spelling bee people have infiltrated our boards. I think it is a conspircy.

googs
05-30-2007, 05:32 PM
and why do I not get 100 virgin men when I go to heaven. What a fucking sexist pig. I mean I want 100 men for just me! Seriously why does all these woman have to share one dick!? I mean that is hardly fair. Do you know how long it will take before I ever get any? I am sorry unless woman get the exact same treatment as men when they go to heaven it is not fair and it is sexist. Why do guys get all the sex?
No wonder woman hardly ever suicide bomb themselves. All they get is a lousy t-shirt and man who has had his dick in 99 woman.

You seriously are a dumb fuck.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 05:35 PM
ROFLMAO
hmm you probably think I am a slut for wanting 100 men but a guy is honored to have a 100 woman. They are seen as some kind of stud or something. How freaking sexist can a religion be.

Yeah I am a dumb fuck. I like that one. better than dumb ass. LOL

googs
05-30-2007, 05:42 PM
In Islam, men and women, who enter Paradise, will be showered with blessings. The verse in the Quran that menitons the Hoor Al`Een is strictly for those who want it, and not for every single man or woman. And I did say women, Warrior. Women and men are granted this wish and desire. So if women want 72 male virgins, they can go ahead and have 72 male virgins. If a guy just wants one female virgin, he can go ahead and have one female virgin, hoepfully they don't look anything like you.

googs
05-30-2007, 05:43 PM
ROFLMAO
hmm you probably think I am a slut for wanting 100 men but a guy is honored to have a 100 woman. They are seen as some kind of stud or something. How freaking sexist can a religion be.

Yeah I am a dumb fuck. I like that one. better than dumb ass. LOL

There is no way in hell 100 men will ever want you. EVER. I'm still shocked you have a husband.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 05:53 PM
In Islam, men and women, who enter Paradise, will be showered with blessings. The verse in the Quran that menitons the Hoor Al`Een is strictly for those who want it, and not for every single man or woman. And I did say women, Warrior. Women and men are granted this wish and desire. So if women want 72 male virgins, they can go ahead and have 72 male virgins. If a guy just wants one female virgin, he can go ahead and have one female virgin, hoepfully they don't look anything like you.

I am so confused I mean we die our body and physical self dies and we are supposely souls left but yet the koran promises physical lust things for the body which is dead and in the dirt.

How is a soul suppose to have sex with 72 virgins souls?

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 05:55 PM
There is no way in hell 100 men will ever want you. EVER. I'm still shocked you have a husband.

HA!! you would be suprised. Well my husband asked me to marry him usually it is the other way around since I am a feminist and all but I accepted. I know hard to believe an independent, free thinking, feminist getting a man who is comfortable with not being dominating over a woman. I mean damn what are men going to these days to give equal rights to woman. I mean it is impossible and how dare a woman think on her own. I tell you Amerian values has just gone down the tube.

googs
05-30-2007, 06:02 PM
I am so confused I mean we die our body and physical self dies and we are supposely souls left but yet the koran promises physical lust things for the body which is dead and in the dirt.

How is a soul suppose to have sex with 72 virgins souls?

As described in the Quran and the Hadith, the experience of Paradise includes the whole human, together with physical, spiritual, and intellectual senses. Didn't you read the Quran?

googs
05-30-2007, 06:03 PM
HA!! you would be suprised. Well my husband asked me to marry him usually it is the other way around since I am a feminist and all but I accepted. I know hard to believe an independent, free thinking, feminist getting a man who is comfortable with not being dominating over a woman. I mean damn what are men going to these days to give equal rights to woman. I mean it is impossible and how dare a woman think on her own. I tell you Amerian values has just gone down the tube.


I told you...I'm shocked.

sedan
05-30-2007, 06:36 PM
HA!! you would be suprised. Well my husband asked me to marry him usually it is the other way around since I am a feminist and all but I accepted. I know hard to believe an independent, free thinking, feminist getting a man who is comfortable with not being dominating over a woman.From another thread:He is a type A personality and wants the house spic and span every day which I think is rediculous since I have two kids but I do it. He wants things done right away like when I super scrub the bathrooms on Saturday. He wants me to do it first thing in the morning and I like to wait till after lunch. He is too strict with the kids and want sex even when I am feeling sick really fucking annoying. He thinks I can read his mind and gets mad when I don't get what he has planned for the day LOL.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 06:58 PM
and like someone said "I suppose he is perfect" and I said no he has some faults. big freakn deal.
Oh you see that as him controlling me LOL
as I said before if I favor a guy or like them I will do things for them because I like him in this case I love him and tolerating a little type A personality is worth it.

Evakian
05-30-2007, 07:00 PM
This is what happens to them. (http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?t=26655&highlight=french+hymen)

Phyrex would love it.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 07:01 PM
As described in the Quran and the Hadith, the experience of Paradise includes the whole human, together with physical, spiritual, and intellectual senses. Didn't you read the Quran?

So um how can you physical stuff be in heaven? especially if you blow yourself. Does god somehow sow your body back together from a million pieces?

googs
05-30-2007, 07:08 PM
So um how can you physical stuff be in heaven? especially if you blow yourself. Does god somehow sow your body back together from a million pieces?

First off, sucide, depending on the circumstances, is against the Islamic religion, so he'd be in hell not heaven. And last, “We mete out death among you, and We are not to be outrun, That We may transfigure you and make you what ye know not.” (Al-Waqi`ah: 60-61)

Honestly, have you really read the Quran?

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 07:28 PM
yeah yeah. I tried to read the Koran and it kept going on and on about the non-believers and how not to trust them or be thier friends and how they will be punished and how you can lie to them and yadda yadda honestly the koran bashed the non believers so much I just couldn't go on.

googs
05-30-2007, 07:34 PM
yeah yeah. I tried to read the Koran and it kept going on and on about the non-believers and how not to trust them or be thier friends and how they will be punished and how you can lie to them and yadda yadda honestly the koran bashed the non believers so much I just couldn't go on.

Right...you tried but couldn't understand anything you were reading.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 07:36 PM
The koran really makes you feel above everyone else for being a muslim. I mean it is kind of nazi like in a way. It teaches that Islam is the supreme religion and all other religions are below it and unworthy of equal treatment. I am sure hitler would be proud.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 07:38 PM
Yes this was so hard to read and comprehend










The Holy Qur'an: Text,
Translation & Commentary

Abdullah Yusuf Ali (Editor)

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Koran 17:16-17 A llah will commit genocide
When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet transgress; so that Allah's word is proved true against them: then we destroy them utterly. How many generations have we destroyed after Noah? And enough is thy Lord to note and see the Sins of his servants.


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K 8:012 Gods terrorizes those who can't understand / believe in the supernatural!
Set 28, Count 62
...make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.


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Koran 8:37 The "All-Merciful Allah" isinstructs Islamics to heap up a mountain (of corpses) of non believers
In order that Allah may separate the impure from the pure, Put All the impure ones (Non-Muslim -- atheists, Jews), one on top of the another in a Heap and cast them into Hell. They will be the ones to have lost.


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Koran 21:11 Allah is boasts about His as genocide
How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their inequities, setting up in their place other peoples.


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Koran 2:8-10 Allah not only exhorts Muslims to kill all the non-believers; strikes down the surviving ones with disease and pain
In their (Non-Muslims) hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease and grievous is the penalty they will incur, because they are false.


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Koran 58: Infidels be crushed to death by the edict of Allah
Those who resist Allah and His Messenger will be crumbled to dust, as were those before them: for we have already sent down Clear Signs and the Unbelievers will have a humiliating Penalty.


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Koran 44:43-50 Sinners, eat Zaqqum to intensify the torment of the Khati'un (Koran Sura 69:36-37); it tastes like Like molten brass... then boiling water to quench it
Verily the Tree of Zaqqum will be the food of the sinful. Like molten brass it will boil in their insides, Like the boiling of scalding water Seize Ye Him and drag him into the midst of the blazing Fire. Then pour over his head the penalty of Boiling Water.


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Koran 2:39 You will rot in Jahannam (Hell -- a valley south of Jerusalem) see Qur'an, Al-Isra (17:60)
Those who reject faith (Islam) and belie our signs, They shall be Companions of the Fire and abide in it.


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Koran 2:89-90 Allah curses Jews, Christians, Buddhists and atheists
The Curse of Allah is on those without faith (in Islam) Thus have they drawn wrath upon wrath on themselves and humiliating is the punishment of those who reject faith (in Islam).


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Koran 5:33 Bilateral Amputation!
The Punishment for those who oppose Allah and his messenger is : Execution or Crucifixion or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides or exile from the land.


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Koran 9:35 Beware All Ye Capitalists of the world!
On the day when Heat will be produced out of the wealth in the Fire of Hell, and with it will be branded their foreheads, their sides and their backs- "This is the treasure that ye buried for yourselves, taste ye then the treasures that ye buried."


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Koran 8:50 Angels will kill atheists
If you could see when the angels take the souls of the Unbelievers at death. How they smite their faces and backs saying "Taste the penalty of the blazing Fire" .


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Koran 17:46-47 Non-Muslims will never be allowed to understand the Koran
And we put coverings over their hearts and minds, lest they should understand the Koran, and we put deafness in their ears; when you commemorate your Lord (Allah) and Him alone in the Koran.


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Koran 4:100-104 Set 19, Count 48-52 Atheists and Jews are Islam's enemies

Verily, the infidels are your undoubted enemies!


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Koan 4:100-104 Set 19, Count 48-52 Verily, atheists and Jews are Islam's enemies

[4.100] ...Verily, the infidels are your undoubted enemies! ...surely Allah has prepared a disgraceful chastisement for the unbelievers.


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Koran 4.137:
Surely (as for) those who believe
then disbelieve,
again believe
and again disbelieve,
then increase in disbelief,
Allah will not forgive them nor guide them in the (right) path.
Afghan men pray outside a mosque in Kabul, Afghanistan, Monday, March 27, 2006. Hundreds of people protested in a northern
Afghan city Monday against a decision to free a man who faced a possible death penalty for converting from Islam to Christianity,
officials said. [A.P. Photo/Rodrigo Abd] Abdul Rahman, an Afghan who converted to Christianity. [A.P. Photo/APTN/Ariana TV]
Muslim clerics and thousands of people riled against he decision to free Abdul Rahman in March of 2006.. But he was freed due to pressure of free-thinking countries and also the USA; the Islamic court said he is insane. The Afghan constitution guarantees freedom of religion. Only a fool would have a false religion.


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Koran 47:035 Set 71, Count 138 Invite not the infidels to peace

Rodwell: Be not fainthearted then; and invite not the infidels to peace when ye have the upper hand: for God is with you, and will not defraud you of the recompense of your works...


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Koran 3.90 : Surely, those who disbelieve after their believing, then increase in unbelief, their repentance shall not be accepted, and these are they that go astray.


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Koran 2:190-191 Set 2, Count 3+4

[2.190] And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits. [2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.


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Koran 3:169 Set 11, Count 32 72 virgins

And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord [meaning they are enjoying their seventy-two virgins ( 72 ) virgins in heaven];


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Koran 33:25-27 Set 66, Count 131-133 You will confiscate the land of the Jews even though you have never been there before

[33.25] And Allah turned back the unbelievers in their rage; they did not obtain any advantage, and Allah sufficed the believers in fighting; and Allah is Strong, Mighty. [33.26] And He drove down those of the followers of the Book who backed them from their fortresses and He cast awe into their hearts; some [Jews] you killed and you took captive another part. [33.27] And He made you heirs to their [Jewish] land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things.


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Koran 8:007 Set 26, Count 59 Kill the parents of the Unbelievers

Yusuf Ali: Behold! Allah promised you one of the two (enemy) parties, that it should be yours: Ye wished that the one unarmed should be yours, but Allah willed to justify the Truth according to His words and to cut off the roots of the Unbelievers;


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Koran 9:073 Set 44, Count 108 You will go to Hell see Qur'an, Al-Isra (17:60)

O Prophet! strive hard [Jihad] against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.


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Koran 9:122-123 Set 52, Count 116+117

[9.122] Pickthall: And the believers should not all go out to fight. Of every troop of them, a party only should go forth, that they (who are left behind) may gain sound knowledge in religion, and that they may warn their folk when they return to them, so that they may beware. [9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).


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Koran 66:009 Set 83, Count 162 More Hell for unbelievers (non-Moslems)

O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them; and their abode is hell; and evil is the resort.


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warrior1972
05-30-2007, 07:48 PM
but I am sure just as I posted quotes from the bible in the old testiment of the murdering and seriel killing of god and the atrocities he committed on man kind you will totally ignore these passages. Some how taken out of context or not interpreted correctly or cherry picked out all together.

mikezila
05-30-2007, 08:11 PM
I told you...I'm shocked.
the rest of us are shocked she can turn the 'puter on!:lolhit:

googs
05-30-2007, 08:17 PM
Yes this was so hard to read and comprehend

At least you admit it.

You can't take a few lines from the Quran and say that's Islam's message. It's probably the most common and serious mistakes when reading any religious scripture. Quoting only part of a verse or one verse in an interrelated chapter changes it’s meaning. You can't take a few lines from the Bible and say that's the Christian Message. You've got to read the whole book. But of course you lack the knowledge and intelligence to realize this. You also have to realize that the events that surround the Chapters influences and reflects what is said in the Quran. You have to take in consideration of the occasion of relevance of certain verses. So if Muslims were at war with another group of people, the revelation at the time reflects that. You have to keep in mind that chapters of the Quran were revealed to deal with challenges facing the rising Muslim community. For instance in this verse:


Koran 17:16-17
When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet transgress; so that Allah's word is proved true against them: then we destroy them utterly. How many generations have we destroyed after Noah? And enough is thy Lord to note and see the Sins of his servants.

Without any regard to its historical context, it may give a distorted meaning. All in all, in order to understand, you must interpret it correctly, which you did not. You must understand the historical context at the time of the revelation, which you do not. And lastly, you must understand that the Quran is best understood in the Arabic language, which you still after the many times you've been told do not understand.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 08:22 PM
So your saying that your book the Quran does not condone killing unbelievers? So I am to ignore all these verses? I am sorry but I do not accept any book that treats unbelievers as second class citizens. I don't care if it is one verse in the whole book. It makes the whole book questionable.
Your allah is the same god in the old testiment who says it is ok to murder little innocent children for the sins of the parents.
and it says in your own Koran the non believers will never be able to understand the Koran I mean he has already doomed us to not understand then he is going to punish us for not understanding.
What a load of fucking bullshit. Your god is a pychopath he just looks for reasons to send people to hell, burn them and punish them. God needs a fucking psychologist and prison time if you ask me. That is probably why no one has heard from him in 2,000years some being out there saw what an asshole he is and locked him away or put him to death.

googs
05-30-2007, 08:28 PM
So your saying that your book the Quran does not condone killing unbelievers? So I am to ignore all these verses? I am sorry but I do not accept any book that treats unbelievers as second class citizens. I don't care if it is one verse in the whole book. It makes the whole book questionable.
Your allah is the same god in the old testiment who says it is ok to murder little innocent children for the sins of the parents.
and it says in your own Koran the non believers will never be able to understand the Koran I mean he has already doomed us to not understand then he is going to punish us for not understanding.
What a load of fucking bullshit. Your god is a pychopath he just looks for reasons to send people to hell, burn them and punish them. God needs a fucking psychologist and prison time if you ask me. That is probably why no one has heard from him in 2,000years some being out there saw what an asshole he is and locked him away or put him to death.


Warrior, I'm saying it's not saying what you're saying it's saying.

I can't wait until you interpret that.



the rest of us are shocked she can turn the 'puter on!:lolhit:


:lolhit:

DarkFantasy96
05-30-2007, 08:28 PM
Warrior, I thought you knew this, but Christianity and Judaism also preach that sort of condescension towards other religions. The Jews call themselves "God's Chosen People". And they also all preach the killing of unbelievers in their holy books.

I don't think you meant to seem like you were singling out the Koran but the Torah and Bible are also guilty of the same things.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 08:30 PM
It is funny how your interpretation is different than mine. I mean it clearly states to kill the unbelievers and lie to the unbelievers to not be thier friends and you say I do not interpete right.

WHAT THE FUCK EVER!!
Take your Islam propaganda to someone who give shit. Try to sugar coat it and translate it another way.

I will take reality 101 thank you.

godsandmen
05-30-2007, 08:36 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b222/godsandmen/religion/Islam/koranflakes8cl.jpg

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 08:36 PM
Warrior, I thought you knew this, but Christianity and Judaism also preach that sort of condescension towards other religions. The Jews call themselves "God's Chosen People". And they also all preach the killing of unbelievers in their holy books.

I don't think you meant to seem like you were singling out the Koran but the Torah and Bible are also guilty of the same things.

Now when did I ever say that the bible did not have bullshit in it either? I have dozens of threads bashing the bible.

As for the Torah. I do not read the Torah because the Jews do not go around blowing themsleves up in the name of Allah and run planes into buildings. I wanted to know what drove them to this and found this stuff in the Koran where the extremist nutjobs get thier informations. Same with Christians who claim I am going to burn in hell for believing that there could be more than one god. Teaching hate about gays and says that witchcraft is the devils work. So got looking in the bible and look what I find god murdering innocent children and woman for pissing him off.

Since the old testiment is what the Jews follow that means them too along with the christian god.

However I have yet to met and asshole Jew. I have met many some with there little round flat hats at the back of thier head and some more modern and non ever was as rude and annoying as christians blabbering about hell and how god will punish the sinners.

I am sure they are out there but they seem to be few and far between.

googs
05-30-2007, 08:39 PM
Now when did I ever say that the bible did not have bullshit in it either? I have dozens of threads bashing the bible...

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Which is where I have my problem with you. You have threads bashing and not debating Christianity or Islam, subjects you know nothing about. Stop bashing and start debating.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 08:41 PM
Someone on cagles cartoons message board drew a picture of 9 year old Aisha (muhammad child bride) in a hajib with a backpack. It was fucking halarious. I wish I could find it. Someone did it in the same program that with the Noahs ark and T-rex scene.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 08:43 PM
Which is where I have my problem with you. You have threads bashing and not debating Christianity or Islam, subjects you know nothing about. Stop bashing and start debating.

Well it is hard to debate such sexism, racism,pediphilia and mass murdering and seriel killing.

I mean it is kind of self explanitory and written in black and white.

googs
05-30-2007, 08:43 PM
Someone on cagles cartoons message board drew a picture of 9 year old Aisha (muhammad child bride) in a hajib with a backpack. It was fucking halarious. I wish I could find it. Someone did it in the same program that with the Noahs ark and T-rex scene.


Care Meter: |-|

googs
05-30-2007, 08:44 PM
Well it is hard to debate such sexism, racism,pediphilia and mass murdering and seriel killing.

I mean it is kind of self explanitory and written in black and white.


You hardly debate anything. All you do is whine and bash....

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 08:51 PM
Whinning is for amatuars I am a professional and it is calling "bitching" thank you.

Jester
05-30-2007, 09:22 PM
Whinning is for amatuars I am a professional and it is calling "bitching" thank you.Does that mean you're a professional bitch? :D
That was a joke, please take it as such.

Warrior, despite the apparent clarity of the Quranic verses you quoted the Quran can, and is, interpreted in several different ways. Millions upon millions of people read the same book and the same verses that you cite, yet the majority of them do not advocate killing non-believers. That can only mean that they interpret it diffierently from those who do advocate such things.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 10:44 PM
I agree. Just as many christians certianly do not believe god will punish little children for the sins of the parent.

I think it is the human that turns the bible or Koran into excuses to terrorize others and all though the extremist are in the minority when you have 10 million muslims and even 10 percent are extremist that an awful lot of violent people.

I just think there are better religions out there like buddhism. They never look at themselves as better than other religions or philosophies. They are competely non violent and have not mass murdered groups in crusades or by spreading thier religion across the middle east.

There is no way you can interpret the buddhist text in a violent way.

My point in quoting those things is that there are truths in these books that people do not want to face. They say extremist are not true Islamist or true christians but really they are following the bible and Koran in a very real way that we water down to make palletable for this society. We have created a civil society where violence is unacceptable and this contracts the culture 2,000 years ago when people found it completely acceptable to stone people to death.

My point is people are taking those books way too seriously even the moderates.

googs
05-30-2007, 10:49 PM
Make it 1.3 billion Muslims....and it's way less than 10% that are extremists...

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 10:55 PM
Ha no way.
Polls shows even in America that 13 percent of muslims say it is acceptable to suicide bomb yourself to defend your religion

http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?t=27365

read it and weep.

That is in America where muslim are much more moderate and civilized I cannot imagine the range of those outside the U.S.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 10:58 PM
2003 edition (p. 635) says 2.8 million how many muslims in America http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/1

13 percent of that is an awful lot of people who condone violence to defend thier religon.

warrior1972
05-30-2007, 11:01 PM
At a level of 1.2 billion, they represent about 22% of the world's population. They are the second largest religion in the world. Only Christianity is larger, with 33% of the world's inhabitants.

googs
05-30-2007, 11:22 PM
Ha no way.
Polls shows even in America that 13 percent of muslims say it is acceptable to suicide bomb yourself to defend your religion

http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?t=27365

read it and weep.

That is in America where muslim are much more moderate and civilized I cannot imagine the range of those outside the U.S.

First off, it's a poll, so I doubt its accuracy. I think the sample size was way to small to reflect on the views of the muslim population in America. And the survey was conducted by phone. Without face to face interaction, it's easier to lie or just hang up on the interviewer. All in all, I just don't believe it.

warrior1972
05-31-2007, 10:53 AM
Oh yeah the poll in inaccurate ROFLMAO

Why would someone lie about suicide bombing and making thier religion out to be a nutcase!!!

Of course beating your wife is the wrong translation and a reputable poll is not good enough or accurate.

You sir are living in denial about your own religion.

HA HA HA HA
Religion makes people fucking blind as a bat!! I feel sorry for them really. LOL

tucker58
05-31-2007, 12:35 PM
And what do you think with?

Anyhoo, this is from the link...

“Here Allah mentions the Hoor Al`Een (beautiful wives who have big and lustrous eyes and 'whom no man or Jinn before them has touched' and who are 'Like unto rubies and coral'”) because in most cases men pursue women and not vice versa. As for women, Allah Almighty may marry them to any of the believers in Paradise, if they did not get married during worldly life, or He may compensate them by making them feel content with their position. It is also said that Allah may grant women some kind of beauty with which they will feel that they are better than the Hoor Al-`Een and that they are their mistress, so they will not love anyone other than their own husbands nor will they feel jealous of the Hoor Al-`Een.”


http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543756

Thanks Googs! That was what I was wondering about.

I was in meditation one day and Jesus asked me if I would like to visit first level Heaven and I said yes I would. So He took me to first level Heaven. I was there for a little while when I screwed up just a tiny bit and got bumped out of Heaven down into Paradise.

Paradise was just like the Moslem's discribe it. The women there were arabic looking, stunningly beautiful and very sweet, nice people. I didn't actually think that Paradise existed, but it does. I didn't stay long because it was just too beautiful. Anyway I was suprised that it was real and I can see why Moslems look forward to going there.

Tucker58

tucker58
05-31-2007, 01:00 PM
Hey Warrior :)

Back in my younger days I had a friend who was from Kawait (before the first war). He was telling me that Jesus was one of their prophets and that one of the reasons that Mohammed started Islam was because the Christians and Jews of that day and area were not only greedy, but that they were also just plain not nice people :)

Sometimes one begins to think that the major problem with Christianity is the Christians :)

Tucker58

500lbguerilla
06-01-2007, 12:58 AM
The prophet muhammed sews their snatch back togather for a modest sum.

http://www.cosmeticgyn.net/media_times_london.htm

tucker58
06-01-2007, 01:37 PM
The prophet muhammed sews their snatch back togather for a modest sum.

http://www.cosmeticgyn.net/media_times_london.htm

Hi 500lbguerilla :) What you posted is the samething that Warrior said.

I like googs version better :)

500lbguerilla based on your sig. I will bet that you are alot of fun in politics.

It is funny that the Moslems, Jews, and Christians all worship the same God. And in India Brahma is the Creator and Brahman is the Holy Spirit of Brahma. And what else is interesting is that there seems to be evidence that the Ayrans that moved into northern India (they brought Brahma to India) were one of the lost tribes of Israel. :) and India is very male dominated. And there are other similarities between the Brahmans and the Jews.

Which would make Brahma and Jehovah the same person and Jesus the Son of Brahma. And that makes Jesus India's Savior also. No more Karma, no more class system. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They are just missing the Son.

What affect would India have on world Christianity if it became Christian (India's version :) )? Jesus is the Son of Brahma :)

Tucker58

Jester
06-01-2007, 07:50 PM
Which would make Brahma and Jehovah the same person and Jesus the Son of Brahma. And that makes Jesus India's Savior also. No more Karma, no more class system. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They are just missing the Son.

What affect would India have on world Christianity if it became Christian (India's version :) )? Jesus is the Son of Brahma :) If Hindus in India were to believe in Jesus, he would likely be looked upon as just another human incarnation of god, similar to Krishna.

tucker58
06-02-2007, 01:09 PM
If Hindus in India were to believe in Jesus, he would likely be looked upon as just another human incarnation of god, similar to Krishna.

Hi Jester! Probably :)

Most Chrisians consider Him an incarnation of God also. What is interesting is that with Jesus your sins are forgiven and you come under the Law of Grace. You get to start over (probably hourly :) ). And to my knowledge no other incarnation of God died for the sins of mankind. He was the last and final sacrifice. Except for your money of course.

Anyway, I am probably going to Hell for just thinking about this stuff :)

Tucker58

500lbguerilla
06-06-2007, 01:53 AM
Which would make Brahma and Jehovah the same person and Jesus the Son of Brahma. And that makes Jesus India's Savior also. No more Karma, no more class system. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They are just missing the Son. actually I posted a thread on the theory that Jesus survived the crucifixtion and traveled to India to reunite the tribes of Israel. There is an excellant documentary attached to the thread you can wath online. Just search for my name, india, and jesus... should be able to find it.

Nighthawk
06-12-2007, 01:22 PM
I actually have some muslim friends and asked the same question about the martyrs who get 72 virgins in Paradise. According to my friend Sahib Alawahs, the virgins are "perpetual" virgins and described in considerable detail how their hymens are miraculously restored the next time you want to score, and will always bleed anytime you shag them. To top it off you have an infinite supply of the finest (but not intoxicating) wines to guzzle and grapes so big that a bird would take a month to encircle a cluster of them! What a groovy Paradise those Muslims have! Makes you want to convert right now!

Nighthawk
06-12-2007, 01:24 PM
Oh, and by the way compare this to the Death By Boredom in the Christian Heaven, where the only things you can do are kiss God's fat derriere and sing hymns of praise ad nauseam. The Trashterpiece known as the Book of Revelations describes something like 100,000,000 angels who do nothing but sing non stop praise of God.

One wonders after say a few thousand years of this nonstop racket that one might intentionally curse God just to get booted out of Heaven and into Hell for some welcome relief!

Nighthawk
06-15-2007, 10:54 AM
I think I found the post of Warrior's that led to her banishment from this community! Alas! Quite a gal! I'm sure to miss her and I don't even know her.
We need more like her to call a spade a spade and mince no words. By Allah! What is this a Teletubbie or Barney the Dinosaur forum that must maintain a G-rating for the kiddies? Fie on all censors and censor wannabes who cruise the boards looking for naughty language and anything that offends, and believe me, anything you write is sure to offend somebody, and then tip off said individual to the "powers that be" for banishment! I hear they are taking bets on how long I last myself before getting the proverbial boot. Allah alone knows, or perhaps he knows not!

Musiq_notes
06-15-2007, 11:31 AM
Oh, and by the way compare this to the Death By Boredom in the Christian Heaven, where the only things you can do are kiss God's fat derriere and sing hymns of praise ad nauseam. The Trashterpiece known as the Book of Revelations describes something like 100,000,000 angels who do nothing but sing non stop praise of God.

One wonders after say a few thousand years of this nonstop racket that one might intentionally curse God just to get booted out of Heaven and into Hell for some welcome relief!


I've never heard anyone associate Hell with welcome relief. Unless of course you want to suffer.

To each his own I guess.

tucker58
06-15-2007, 08:48 PM
I think I found the post of Warrior's that led to her banishment from this community! Alas! Quite a gal! I'm sure to miss her and I don't even know her.
We need more like her to call a spade a spade and mince no words. By Allah! What is this a Teletubbie or Barney the Dinosaur forum that must maintain a G-rating for the kiddies? Fie on all censors and censor wannabes who cruise the boards looking for naughty language and anything that offends, and believe me, anything you write is sure to offend somebody, and then tip off said individual to the "powers that be" for banishment! I hear they are taking bets on how long I last myself before getting the proverbial boot. Allah alone knows, or perhaps he knows not!

NightHawk son, you just got fun

Hugs and Love and thank you for being you! :) Too Cool!

Am sorry about "Warrior", she was cool!

So NightHawk, who is the spade? :) You or me :) I love that part :)

I know that management loves this messageboard and that management is good folk. Ah yes my "Knight"Hawk :) are you real or are you just disruptive? You have become fun :) And I have nothing esle to do, but play with you :)

Tucker58 :)