View Full Version : Creationist Museum Opens In Kentucky
dharmabum
05-28-2007, 03:18 PM
This is a sad (http://www.creationmuseum.org/) testament to how stupid Americans have become.
Creationist museum brings dinosaurs on board Noah’s Ark (http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/article1848419.ece)
A vegetarian Tyrannosaurus rex frolicked alongside human beings only a few thousand years ago in the Garden of Eden until Eve decided to munch on that apple, according to the Creation Museum, which opens in Kentucky today.
The $27 million (£14 million) exhibition is funded by evangelical Christians, who apparently believe that by reclaiming dinosaurs and fossils for their literal biblical interpretation of natural history, teenagers are less likely to look at internet pornography or get pregnant out of wedlock.
Evakian
05-28-2007, 03:42 PM
This is a sad testiment to how stupid Americans have become.
Although the story is hilarious, the sentence here just accents it.
Testament*
dharmabum
05-28-2007, 03:44 PM
Why does Allforums need a spellchecker when we have so many posters willing to do the job for free? :rolleyes:
500lbguerilla
05-28-2007, 04:35 PM
http://i10.tinypic.com/6euqhjs.jpg
Evakian
05-28-2007, 04:39 PM
Why does Allforums need a spellchecker when we have so many posters willing to do the job for free? :rolleyes:
Why does the Allforums Vice President of Annoyance (the prez is you know who) feel he needed to unblock me?
dharmabum
05-28-2007, 05:04 PM
ROFLMAO!!! That was great!
http://i10.tinypic.com/6euqhjs.jpg
warrior1972
05-28-2007, 07:34 PM
This is a sad (http://www.creationmuseum.org/) testament to how stupid Americans have become.
careful Dharm to speak out against christains and call thier beliefs stupid or you be labled a troll and demanded to be expelled forever from all forums.
warrior1972
05-28-2007, 07:34 PM
http://i10.tinypic.com/6euqhjs.jpg
ROFLMAO
ROFLMAO
HELP ME!! I cannot breath!!
warrior1972
05-28-2007, 07:37 PM
Although the story is hilarious, the sentence here just accents it.
Testament*
Spelling has to do with lacking spelling information and nothig to do with intelligents.
Evakian
05-28-2007, 08:02 PM
HELP ME!! I cannot breath!!
Asphyxiate mothafucka!
/Samuel L. Jackson
Whoops. Did I say that?
TurdFerguson
05-28-2007, 08:16 PM
Spelling has to do with lacking spelling information and nothig to do with intelligents.
Now that's funny, I don't care who you are!!!
:lolhit:
Phyrex
05-28-2007, 09:01 PM
Vegetarian T-Rex? WTF?!?!?
warrior1972
05-28-2007, 10:13 PM
Vegetarian T-Rex? WTF?!?!?
No it makes perfect since you know. Those sharp teeth and sharp claws it was obviously designed to help man kind hunt. I am sure our ancestors rode the T-Rex and herded them like cattle.
dharmabum
05-29-2007, 07:25 AM
careful Dharm to speak out against christains and call thier beliefs stupid or you be labled a troll and demanded to be expelled forever from all forums.
Fundamentalists are stupid.
I don't give a rat's ass what they think.
Travh20
05-29-2007, 09:22 AM
Its about as much of a museum as Moore's movie about 9-11 was a documentary.
Dio Seijuro
05-29-2007, 09:56 AM
I wonder what the museum is prepared to do with visiting foreigners and vacationers from outside of the bible belt who would no doubt treat the whole tour with mockery and ridicule. Even most Christians would consider this ridiculous, so it's gotta be very very humiliating working there.
smartmouthwoman
05-29-2007, 10:05 AM
Appears everything old is new again.
Replica of Noah's Ark Opens Doors to Visitors
Monday, April 30, 2007
April 28: Passersby look at a replica of Noah's Ark in Schagen, Netherlands.
SCHAGEN, Netherlands — The massive central door in the side of Noah's Ark was thrown open Saturday — you could say it was the first time in 4,000 years — drawing a crowd of curious pilgrims and townsfolk to behold the wonder.
Of course, it's only a replica of the biblical Ark, built by Dutch creationist Johan Huibers as a testament to his faith in the literal truth of the Bible.
Reckoning by the old biblical measurements, Johan's fully functional ark is 150 cubits long, 30 cubits high and 20 cubits wide. That's two-thirds the length of a football field and as high as a three-story house.
Life-size models of giraffes, elephants, lions, crocodiles, zebras, bison and other animals greet visitors as they arrive in the main hold.
"The design is by my wife, Bianca," Huibers said. "She didn't really want me to do this at all, but she said if you're going to anyway, it should look like this."
A contractor by trade, Huibers built the ark of cedar and pine — biblical scholars debate exactly what the wood used by Noah would have been.
Huibers did the work mostly with his own hands, using modern tools and occasional help from his son Roy. Construction began in May 2005.
On the uncovered top deck — not quite ready in time for the opening — will come a petting zoo, with baby lambs and chickens, and goats. And one camel.
Visitors on the first day were stunned.
"It's past comprehension," said Mary Louise Starosciak, who happened to be bicycling by with her husband while on vacation when they saw the ark looming over the local landscape.
"I knew the story of Noah, but I had no idea the boat would have been so big."
In fact, Noah's Ark as described in the Bible was five times larger than Johan's Ark.
But that still leaves enough space near the keel for a 50-seat film theater, where kids can watch the segment of the Disney film "Fantasia" that tells the story of Noah.
Another exhibit shows water cascading down on a model of the Ark. Exhibits on the third level show ancient tools and old-fashioned barrels, exotic stuffed animals, and a wax model of an exhausted Noah reclining on a bed in the forecastle.
Genesis says Noah kept seven pairs of most domesticated animals and one breeding pair of all other creatures, plus his wife, three sons and three daughters-in-law together on the boat for almost a year while the world was deluged.
Perhaps it was only logical that the replica project would be the brainchild of a Dutchman: fear of floods are ingrained in the country's collective consciousness by its water-drenched history.
Lois Poppema, visiting from California, said she thought the Netherlands was exactly the right place for an ark.
"Just a few weeks ago we saw Al Gore on television .. saying that all Holland will be flooded" due to rising sea levels, she said.
"I don't think the man who made this ever expected that global warning will become (such an important) issue — and suddenly having the ark would be meaningful in the middle of Holland."
Under sunny clear skies Saturday, Huibers said he wasn't worried about another biblical flood, since according to Genesis, the rainbow is the sign of God's promise never to flood the world again. But he does worry that recent events such as the flooding of New Orleans could be seen as a portent of the end of time.
Huibers said he hopes the project will renew interest in Christianity in the Netherlands, where churchgoing has fallen dramatically in the past 50 years. He also plans to visit major cities in Belgium and Germany.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269090,00.html
Inviolable
05-29-2007, 10:19 AM
That Noah's Ark thing looks cool.
Its a good idea.
Phyrex
05-29-2007, 10:30 AM
Building a Noah's Ark replica is a lot different from this supposed "museum".
smartmouthwoman
05-29-2007, 10:33 AM
Building a Noah's Ark replica is a lot different from this supposed "museum".
Not a LOT different, P. Doesn't it make you the slightest bit curious about where people get the motivation to do these things?
(I have a friend who's going to Europe this summer and plans to visit the Ark. Can't wait to hear what he thinks of it.)
Phyrex
05-29-2007, 10:41 AM
Not a LOT different, P. Doesn't it make you the slightest bit curious about where people get the motivation to do these things?
(I have a friend who's going to Europe this summer and plans to visit the Ark. Can't wait to hear what he thinks of it.)
Building something like Noah's Ark would be a kin to climbing Mt Everest, or sailing around the world, or something along those lines. Yeah, it has a spiritual purpose for the ones who built it sure, and its a feat in itself. However opening a museum saying such things as "A vegetarian Tyrannosaurus Rex frolicked alongside human beings only a few thousand years ago in the Garden of Eden until Eve decided to [eat the] apple", is utter stupidity. You and me both know with 100% certainty that that is simply not true.
Inviolable
05-29-2007, 10:42 AM
I know of a few different creation type museums. I havent bothered to read everything on the one Dharm left, admittedly it does sound pretty stupid, aspecialy if it has a T-Rex on the Ark.
But I have seen, "not in person" museums that dont try to take anything away from evolution. Basically they give the same explanation, they just add how it doesnt disprove the bible.
I can search the web and find thousands of really stupid things scientist have done in the past or very recently.
However that wouldnt serve to do anything other then point out that people do dumb things.
And really, what good would that do?
rendova
05-29-2007, 10:43 AM
I wonder what the museum is prepared to do with visiting foreigners and vacationers from outside of the bible belt who would no doubt treat the whole tour with mockery and ridicule. Even most Christians would consider this ridiculous, so it's gotta be very very humiliating working there.
Maybe the employees get big discounts at the gift shop?
OldPhart
05-29-2007, 11:45 AM
I got it! Those often-thought useless front "arms" on the T-rex were for picking berries!
mikezila
05-29-2007, 11:52 AM
Now that's funny, I don't care who you are!!!
:lolhit:
pure magic!
warrior1972
05-29-2007, 12:51 PM
defintion of museum
A building, place, or institution devoted to the acquisition, conservation, study, exhibition, and educational interpretation of objects having scientific, historical, or artistic value.
Um does this fall into any of the catagories here?? It is not scientific, it is not historical because that would have to be based on facts...maybe it has artistic value??
jerejerebinks
05-29-2007, 03:18 PM
defintion of museum
A building, place, or institution devoted to the acquisition, conservation, study, exhibition, and educational interpretation of objects having scientific, historical, or artistic value.
Um does this fall into any of the catagories here?? It is not scientific, it is not historical because that would have to be based on facts...maybe it has artistic value??
To the people that will be visiting.... the bible is simply enough historical record.
I'm suprised that I hadn't heard about this.....news in this commonwealth typically moves rather quickly.
warrior1972
05-29-2007, 04:19 PM
dinosaurs living with humans is historical? Tell that to the 10,000 year old bones o humans and then the 34 million year old bones of the T-rex. I supose carbon dating is flawed somehow??
I understand historical if they talked about noahs time line, egypt holding jews as slaves and so on but... dinasaurs living along side with humans?? I am sorry I just cannot logically classify that as historical documenation.
Travh20
05-29-2007, 04:36 PM
I supose carbon dating is flawed somehow??
actually it is, but not to that extent.
Phyrex
05-29-2007, 09:40 PM
dinosaurs living with humans is historical? Tell that to the 10,000 year old bones o humans and then the 34 million year old bones of the T-rex. I supose carbon dating is flawed somehow??
Dinosaurs died out 64 million years ago, just a fyi.
And Dio made a good point, the rest of the world is going to look at this place and laugh. I bet it gets shut down in no time.
mikezila
05-29-2007, 10:04 PM
Dinosaurs died out 64 million years ago, just a fyi.
And Dio made a good point, the rest of the world is going to look at this place and laugh. I bet it gets shut down in no time.
you mean like the Coelacanth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelacanth)???
warrior1972
05-29-2007, 10:05 PM
My data says 65 million but who is being picky about it my point is millions of years seperated Humans from dinosaurs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/prehistoric_life/dinosaurs/chronology/65mya1.shtml
http://www.infowest.com/life/dinosaurs/extinct.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous-Tertiary_extinction_event
LionelHutz
05-29-2007, 10:27 PM
I bet it gets shut down in no time.
Shut down by who? The museum police?
Travh20
05-29-2007, 10:30 PM
the Darwinists and people who are afraid another country might laugh at us I guess.
mikezila
05-29-2007, 10:42 PM
Shut down by who? The museum police?
the bank when they run out of ppl who are stupid enough to go and have the money...this could be bigger than Autoworld (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Flags_Autoworld)!
Phyrex
05-29-2007, 11:19 PM
Shut down by who? The museum police?
By the lack of attendance and funds.
Phyrex
05-29-2007, 11:19 PM
My data says 65 million but who is being picky about it my point is millions of years seperated Humans from dinosaurs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/prehistoric_life/dinosaurs/chronology/65mya1.shtml
http://www.infowest.com/life/dinosaurs/extinct.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous-Tertiary_extinction_event
64, 65 yeah ok, but you said 34 at first lol.
warrior1972
05-29-2007, 11:20 PM
yeah yeah LOL!!
jerejerebinks
05-30-2007, 01:17 PM
By the lack of attendance and funds.
I doubt it.... the Muhammad Ali museum never has a soul go to it - but they still advertise it nonstop here.
moppiedoz
05-30-2007, 01:35 PM
i will actually be traveling with my church to the creation museum in july.
i am not exactly sure how i will view it and absorb the information (i am, at times, quite skeptical when it comes to religion).
Freethinker
05-31-2007, 05:49 PM
.... it's gotta be very very humiliating working there.
I would think the opposite is the case.
Anyone would would work in such a temple of ignorance would be too fucking brainless to ever feel a sense of humiliation.
Dio Seijuro
05-31-2007, 05:54 PM
I would think the opposite is the case.
Anyone would would work in such a temple of ignorance would be too fucking brainless to ever feel a sense of humiliation.
You have a point. I just read this:
Each permanent employee must sign a statement of faith indicating that he or she believes in young Earth creationism and the other teachings of Answers in Genesis. These include "Scripture teaches a recent origin for man and the whole creation;" "the only legitimate marriage is the joining of one man and one woman;" "the great Flood of Genesis was an actual historic event" and "no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record."[26] When applying for work a written statement of one's beliefs is required along with with résumé and references.
500lbguerilla
06-01-2007, 12:52 AM
"no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record." Reality? What reality?
jerejerebinks
06-01-2007, 01:17 PM
I would think the opposite is the case.
Anyone would would work in such a temple of ignorance would be too fucking brainless to ever feel a sense of humiliation.
You think the highschooler at the gift shop selling "I'm Unevolved" t-shirts cares about the religious debate that place will create. A paycheck is a paycheck.
....Now if I were the manager of the place or a tour guide forced to relay the information as fact that would be a different story.
*wipes tears from eyes*
Boy, there are some great wisecracks coming out in this thread.
http://i10.tinypic.com/6euqhjs.jpgheheh
Its about as much of a museum as Moore's movie about 9-11 was a documentary.Mwuhuhu
I got it! Those often-thought useless front "arms" on the T-rex were for picking berries!lol
Anyone would would work in such a temple of ignorance would be too fucking brainless to ever feel a sense of humiliation.heheheh. Nice.
Jester
06-01-2007, 07:39 PM
http://i10.tinypic.com/6euqhjs.jpg
Well that explains what happened to the unicorns.
Nighthawk
06-12-2007, 02:02 PM
You perhaps forget the possible value of such a museum in teaching the general public for the first time perhaps what imbeciles creationists of a Biblical sort tend to be! Also there is the possible humor value in it. It'd be a great place to go on a date with you beloved. Just hold hands with her and grimace and laugh and guffaw until you feel your sides are going to burst! Afterwards go to a nice Bistro Italiano and enjoy a glass of fine wine, which your creationist amici are unable to enjoy~!
Good post~!
Frogger
06-12-2007, 03:02 PM
I don't agree with the views of those who constructed this museum but I am amazed at the hatred and vitriol displayed by the non-Christians, or more accurately, anti-Christians on this board.
Followers of Hubbard believe in aliens as the starters of the human race, Raelians are waiting for the spaceship to return, The Order of the Golden Dawn believes in S and M with females dominant, Heaven's Gate waited faithfully to be taken up by the tail of the Hale-Bopp comet. Not a negative word about any of them but, wow, just mention Christianity and the daggers come out.
DarkFantasy96
06-12-2007, 05:25 PM
I noticed that too Frogger. FT is the only one who's really consistently anti-religion without having an obvious extra hatred for Christianity. This new person, Nighthawk, says flattering things about Islam while dissing Christianity in the same sentence, and yet in other posts he condemns all gods as "idiots".