http://youtube.com/watch?v=uE_l8QYAWZM

Please, oh please. Post this where it belongs: IN MOVIES & TV SHOWS.

Sorry I did not know that catagory existed. It was in news on CNN so I put it in the news section.

Sorry I did not know that catagory existed. It was in news on CNN so I put it in the news section.


How the hell could you have possible posted over a thousand times and not know that there is a movie/television section?

That said...this sadly (but as everything Rosie does it seems) IS news. I dont know why...but it is.

Now that those are both said...I say this: Elizabeth is as big a cook as Rosie IMO...but sitting with Rosie, Barbara, and Joyless and never being able to get a word in would probably do that to her. She is sexy as hell though - so if I have to choose someone to support - despite it being the conservative nutjob of a nutjob vs. nutjob no holds barred matchup - I'll take the sexy nutjob anyday.

That bit belongs in the Allforums News, as far as I am concerned. Because that 'The View' segment was sadly representative of the political discourse normally found on this very web-forum.

In other words, it was a vapid, overly-emotional pissing contest, straight down the two-party lines, and it carried-on for much longer than necessary. With a small contingent of concerned apologist/peacemakers in the middle, grinning like confused and embarassed chimpanzees.

That's daytime television?
Jesus Christ, no wonder I never watch the tube anymore.

:mad:

Unfortunately that partisan "pissing contest" is what qualifies as political discourse in our society, pretty much across the board. It isn't always such a screaming match but the straight party lines is pretty accurate.

This was reported by AP, and found in the "Most viewed news stories". So it must fit as well.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070523/ap_on_en_mo/star_wars_marathon_1;_ylt=AgJxwXdh2OgByX5Rq5QZGLRk M3wV
Given some more time I will find more examples of why others think Americans worry to much about the Hollyweird crowd.

I think some of our troops are terrorists. What do you call someone who sets off bombs in markets and kills innocent civilians?

I think some of our troops are terrorists. What do you call someone who sets off bombs in markets and kills innocent civilians?

Can you qualify that statement in some coherent manner, sir?

Are you insinuating that the US Armed Forces make it a practice or tactic to emplace IEDs and purposely detonate them in crowded civilian markets?
I take exception to that.

Can you qualify that statement in some coherent manner, sir?

Are you insinuating that the US Armed Forces make it a practice or tactic to emplace IEDs and purposely detonate them in crowded civilian markets?
I take exception to that.
i think he was quoting Rosie, it sounds familiar...at least i hope he was:confused:

For 10 minutes they shouted at each other and that's it? Where is crazy fighting lol??
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HNyb-3_blJA

i think he was quoting Rosie, it sounds familiar...at least i hope he was:confused:

what Rosie said is that out troop being there was cause of civilian deaths.. what she was implying is that if the troops were not in Iraq 61,000 Iraqi civilains would not be dead because the terrorist would not be targeting them but the right winged media made out Rosie statement that she believed that the troops were the directly killing the civilains and being the terrorists. Rosie was disputing how the right wing was spinning it and asked Elizabeth if she believed what the republicans where spinning about her because Elizabeth is Republican and Elizabeth would not give a direct yes or no. Rosie accused Elizabeth of double speak that is is a simple yes or no question and then the fight broke out.

I am defineing a terrorist as anyone who commits a needlessly violent act that kills innocent people.

Do the 9/11 hijackers suddenly become 'soldiers' (instead of terrorists) because we find out they were aiming for one military individual on the 88th floor?

that would technically mean the US soilders of Haditha are terrorist?

I am defineing a terrorist as anyone who commits a needlessly violent act that kills innocent people.

....As long as it is politcally motivated. You could make the argument, however, that the War on Terror is political - thus the soldiers could actually be labeled (by definition) a terrorist.

Do the 9/11 hijackers suddenly become 'soldiers' (instead of terrorists) because we find out they were aiming for one military individual on the 88th floor?
No - by definition they would have to be currently in the military to be considered a soldier. Given a stretch, I suppose you could consider it an act of war.

which is exactly my point. Thanks for thinking about it Jerejere. I've come to assume only knee jerk reations from posters here.
Given a stretch, I suppose you could consider it an act of war. Bush declared it an act of war. But then again every word out of his mouth is a stretch.
....As long as it is politcally motivated. You could make the argument, however, that the War on Terror is political - thus the soldiers could actually be labeled (by definition) a terrorist. removing saddam from power was not a political act? but when you really get down to it...What isn't political?

Bush declared it an act of war. But then again every word out of his mouth is a stretch.
True. I know I am begining to sound like the bastard son of Noah Webster - but by definition the attack itself was an act of war. An act of agression by one country on another while at peace is an act of war....so what they did could surely be considered as such.

removing saddam from power was not a political act? but when you really get down to it...What isn't political?
I agree, 500. I was responding to your post that and "needlessly violent act that kills innocent people" is terrorism. If someone just kills an innocent person because they want to - it would be hard to come up with a poltical reason behind it.

What I'm getting act is that every act in itself is political. You have people who say "I'm not politcal" but that merely means they tacitly endorse the status quo. Buying stuff at Walmart endorses Chinese sweatshop labor. Sure you can be apathetic, but you can't be apolitical.

If someone just kills an innocent person because they want to - it would be hard to come up with a poltical reason behind it. they feel that the law should not stop them from killing people.

Terrible show.

Rosie was disputing how the right wing was spinning it and asked Elizabeth if she believed what the republicans where spinning about her because Elizabeth is Republican and Elizabeth would not give a direct yes or no. Rosie accused Elizabeth of double speak that is is a simple yes or no question and then the fight broke out.

(The last several posts between 500 and Jerejere have been excellent reading. I will now lower the discourse. I'm so sorry about doing this)

Elizabeth was asked if Rosie really meant to say the troops were terrorists.
Elizabeth said Rosie should be asked that question.
Rosie said Elizabeth should have answered the question and defended her.
Elizabeth said Rosie should answer it right now.
Rosie still will not say she didn't mean it but expects Elizabeth to say it on her behalf.
Elizabeth said that Rosie should answer her own question - which she didn't.

I could care less about fat cow Rosie and smokin hot Elizabeth... what i found funny was Joy's list of "facts", some not even close to being facts....

But yet her biased, uneducated voice will ring loud and clear among the liberals who watch the view... they become "facts" because Joy said so... that lady is senile and pissed off...

For 10 minutes they shouted at each other and that's it? Where is crazy fighting lol??
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HNyb-3_blJA

Yeah that's pretty much what happened, and this Russian version makes as much sense as Rosie and the pretty blond bimbo who tried to appear logical while arguing her side.

Yeah that's pretty much what happened, and this Russian version makes as much sense as Rosie and the pretty blond bimbo who tried to appear logical while arguing her side.

Guess she got tired of all the heat. She quit.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=rosie+odonnell+leaving+the+view&rs=1&fr2=rs-top&ei=UTF-8&fr=ybr_sbc

Guess she got tired of all the heat. She quit.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=rosie+odonnell+leaving+the+view&rs=1&fr2=rs-top&ei=UTF-8&fr=ybr_sbc

I think mouthie...er Rosie was scheduled to leave in the middle of June so it's just an early exit. Or is it? I would love to know all the true politicking that went on behind the scenes starting with Trump's accusation that Walters regretting hiring her.

I think mouthie...er Rosie was scheduled to leave in the middle of June so it's just an early exit. Or is it? I would love to know all the true politicking that went on behind the scenes starting with Trump's accusation that Walters regretting hiring her.


I'm not really interested. I have never watched daytime TV. Would not have even guessed there was this much interest, if not for the threads.

I'm not really interested. I have never watched daytime TV. Would not have even guessed there was this much interest, if not for the threads.
Well I'm not so sure there is really all that much interest here either. I think that it is merely a vehicle used to illicit various opinions once again. Usually, it breaks down into a pissing match between the right and the left.

I checked out the video, Rosie is still her obnoxious self with a hint of truth and blondie while easier to look at seems rather vapid to me and overwhelmed by the bullhorn.

Barbara needs a new show, this one is done.

that Elizabeth chick is as cute as Rosie is ugly - by default this means she wins the argument. Case closed.

that Elizabeth chick is as cute as Rosie is ugly - by default this means she wins the argument. Case closed.
Yeah, I made that point the other day. I remember when she was on Survivor in those little cutoffs. Mmmhmmm!

we may as well make a View/Rosie forum.

then

we should make a VIew/Rosie forum, then we could set it up so that anyone who goes in there and posts something is instantly banned for life.

we should make a VIew/Rosie forum, then we could set it up so that anyone who goes in there and posts something is instantly banned for life.



....or Drew could make you moderator of the forum and when anyone posts you simply reply "STFU."

that will work too :D

I love how Rosie throws in that she is a fat lesbian to explain why peole don't side with her.
That's not it Rosie.

I love how Rosie throws in that she is a fat lesbian to explain why peole don't side with her.
That's not it Rosie.
hey mr brooks, they made a movie about you........lol

I love how Rosie throws in that she is a fat lesbian to explain why peole don't side with her.
That's not it Rosie.

That's a part of it, I'd say.

(Not that I am aware of Rosie forwarding such an explanation).

That's a part of it, I'd say.

(Not that I am aware of Rosie forwarding such an explanation).

Yeah she did along with saying something about attacking the pretty blonde republican Christian girl.

I thought both points were humorous and likely valid for a small segment of your populace. There will always be shallow people and the statement was sweeping and thereby made true.

that Elizabeth chick is as cute as Rosie is ugly - by default this means she wins the argument. Case closed.
EXACTLY! ::gavel smacks down::

From the fight this is my view:

Firstly, Rosie understands that the troops are simply following orders and have no choice but to go to Iraq. Thus, the Bush Administration are the terrorists for sending them there.

Secondly, we have in-directly caused all those Iraqi citizens to die. Our presence in Iraq has drawn terrorists to Iraq, accidentally killed civilians in the battlefield and allowed for a civil war to occur. Honestly, was Iraq in a civil war prior to our invasion? No, I don’t think so. Thus we have created an environment that has allowed for all those innocent people to die.

Elizabeth is just a bad friend and does not know the meaning of friendship.

I love how Rosie throws in that she is a fat lesbian to explain why peole don't side with her.
That's not it Rosie.
That's about the first principled comment I think I've ever heard that fat lesbian make. (even if it were to quell people's inevitable quips about her face, body, and dykishness)

When it comes down to the two women in question, I definitely know who I'd wanna wake up next to without going coyote ugly in the morning. It's a good thing men don't watch that show, or Rosie would've been booed off stage, and along with her, that quasi-female monster of a housewife who recited the cogent list of points for why Bush shouldn't be president, which included, ironically enough, the fact that he choked on a pretzel. It's only a matter of time before Rosie herself pulls a Momma Cass, so they should watch what they say. Her heart has to be the size of a canned ham already.

Elizabeth is just a bad friend and does not know the meaning of friendship.
I mean, it's like, BFF on the View!!! OMG, what a terrible "friend" Elizabeth is - looks like she's out of the Joy luck club for good this time...

From the fight this is my view:

Firstly, Rosie understands that the troops are simply following orders and have no choice but to go to Iraq. Thus, the Bush Administration are the terrorists for sending them there.

Secondly, we have in-directly caused all those Iraqi citizens to die. Our presence in Iraq has drawn terrorists to Iraq, accidentally killed civilians in the battlefield and allowed for a civil war to occur. Honestly, was Iraq in a civil war prior to our invasion? No, I don’t think so. Thus we have created an environment that has allowed for all those innocent people to die.

Elizabeth is just a bad friend and does not know the meaning of friendship.

Firstly... Wipe that Boyish Leonardo smirk,off yer mug.
Iraqi Civilians are being wiped off the earth by IED's and suicide
bombers in marketplace and Police recruiting lines,Government Bldgs. &
Mosque gatherings.
How many Civilians were Off'd,by specific target,not happenstance or
collateral damage.?
Yer in Rosie's league.
Yer just StUpId in a huge way.
iI yer so damned juvenile cocksure of yerself,cite for US here,one
example of American GI's purposedly blowing up or killing civilians.
If ya can't then Go Home and feed yer pet rock.
KnuckleHead .... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Firstly... Wipe that Boyish Leonardo smirk,off yer mug.
Iraqi Civilians are being wiped off the earth by IED's and suicide
bombers in marketplace and Police recruiting lines,Government Bldgs. &
Mosque gatherings.
How many Civilians were Off'd,by specific target,not happenstance or
collateral damage.?
Yer in Rosie's league.
Yer just StUpId in a huge way.
iI yer so damned juvenile cocksure of yerself,cite for US here,one
example of American GI's purposedly blowing up or killing civilians.
If ya can't then Go Home and feed yer pet rock.
KnuckleHead .... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Was there suicide bombings or a civil war prior to us going to Iraq? No. Thus we have created a place where these things are happening. Making it our fault. :)

OD, you have said on other threads that if we leave so will the terrorists. You can't really believe that.
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The thing that stands out for me about this stupid Rosie thing is that she expected her "friend" to say on her behalf what she refuses to say for herself.

OD, you have said on other threads that if we leave so will the terrorists. You can't really believe that.
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The thing that stands out for me about this stupid Rosie thing is that she expected her "friend" to say on her behalf what she refuses to say for herself.
LOLZ. She has said it herself 47876476309867304986374760389673983709687369803763 8947639804763908673490837690834769803763904876 times.

Why do people even pay attention to what Rosie thinks politically?

Would you take advice from Cedric the Entertainer about investing?

I wouldn't take advice from that clown on anything. Having said that, good point. It's akin to taking stock tips from your barber...err, sorry, OD, stylist.

Why do people even pay attention to what Rosie thinks politically?

For me, it is because she is clearly perceptive, intelligent, well informed, and not afraid to lay out the uncomfortable facts........not to mention that she seems to me to be a very principled and decent person.

IOW, she represents the diametric opposite of the flagwaving little ReichWing apologist she is having the difference of opinion with.

And she is a tigress in the sack.

Please don't forget that bit, sir.

:thumbs:

and, she won the hot dog eating contest a few years back.

And she is a tigress in the sack.

I wouldn't know.

I do know that if I were given to choose --in regards to sexual relations-- between Rosie and the reichwing scarecrow pictured below--

http://www.popculturebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/elisabeth-on-survivor.jpg



--- I'd choose Rosie by a factor of 10-1.

Ah, so we finally agree on something.
I'll alert the media.
:woohoo:

PS I hate to admit it, but I have no earthly idea who the 'reichwing scarecrow pictured below' even is.
Can somebody enlighten me?

looks like a red X, very unattractive

Ah, so we finally agree on something.
I'll alert the media.
:woohoo:

PS I hate to admit it, but I have no earthly idea who the 'reichwing scarecrow pictured below' even is.
Can somebody enlighten me?

That's Elizabeth from Survivor that Rosie was fighting with...

Oh and to be fair, after they spend some time on Survivor without food they all pretty much look like scarecrows except for big fatties...

I think hatred of the reichwing has clouded freethinkers vision.

I think hatred of the reichwing has clouded freethinkers vision.

Even if she were the most leftwing person alive, I still would not find an emaciated female like her (iow, the preferred archetype for the female in America today; a body like that of a 16 year old boy with tiny breasts) the least bit attractive or appealing sexually.

Just saying.

Gotta go with Sal on this one. She looks more toned than anorexic. She was on a fuckin' island with no food for God's sake. If Rosie had been there at the same time she would have devoured the other contestants.

--- I'd choose Rosie by a factor of 10-1.
I'll bet. I think you two probably have the same taste in women.

I'll bet. I think you two probably have the same taste in women.

:lolhit: