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500lbguerilla
05-09-2007, 05:30 PM
Charges Against Ex-CIA Cuban Operative Dismissed
A federal judge has dismissed immigration charges against the anti-Castro Cuban militant and former CIA operative Luis Posada Carriles. On Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Kathleen Cardone said the US government practiced “fraud, deceit, and trickery” when it interviewed Posada about his case. The Venezuelan and Cuban governments have led international calls arguing Posada should be prosecuted for more serious crimes. He’s linked to a series of deadly attacks, including the 1976 bombing of a Cuban airliner that killed 73 people. The Bush administration has refused to extradite him to Cuba or Venezuela. In a statement, the Cuban government said “The terrorist’s release has been concocted by the White House as compensation for Posada Carriles not to reveal what he knows, not to talk about the countless secrets he keeps on his protracted period as an agent of the US special services.”
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/09/1511248
Its OK...He's OUR Terrorist....
paulc
05-09-2007, 06:09 PM
Thats what I call a double standard.
LionelHutz
05-09-2007, 09:42 PM
It's not a double standard - the government was trying to get him locked up like all of the other ones we have stowed away in Gitmo. Unfortunately, they decided to do it in a rather ham-handed and stupid fashion. But I guess that's only bad if they're anti-American terrorists and you're all for it if they're anti-Cuban terrorists? But that's not a double standard? Geez.
paulc
05-10-2007, 02:49 AM
It's not a double standard - the government was trying to get him locked up like all of the other ones we have stowed away in Gitmo. Unfortunately, they decided to do it in a rather ham-handed and stupid fashion. But I guess that's only bad if they're anti-American terrorists and you're all for it if they're anti-Cuban terrorists? But that's not a double standard? Geez.
Its not a double standard,the US Government dosent have a problem kidnapping people off the streets of Europe,whats the difference.
500lbguerilla
05-10-2007, 03:26 PM
So then Lionel you agree that a convicted terrorist should not be deported because the government 'tricked him' into revealing that he was here illegally?
Kidnapping and torturing Suspected terrorists = OK
Tricking and deporting CONVICTED terrorist = not OK
Double standards?
LionelHutz
05-10-2007, 10:09 PM
So then Lionel you agree that a convicted terrorist should not be deported because the government 'tricked him' into revealing that he was here illegally?
If he was convicted by trickery, then no he shouldn't be deported.
Kidnapping and torturing Suspected terrorists = OK Not according to me it's not.
Tricking and deporting CONVICTED terrorist = not OK Right.
Double standards? Nope.
Freethinker
05-10-2007, 10:52 PM
Charges Against Ex-CIA Cuban Operative Dismissed
Nothing new there.
George H W Bush did the same thing.
But WHICH presidential pardon, you may ask, did the eeee-ville "liberal" Media choose to shine a glaring spotlight on instead, when everyone's attention was on Clinton versus Bush?!?!?
If you answered --" George H W Bush's presidential pardon of a Cuban terrorist who was convicted for taking part in a bazooka attack on a Polish ship" -- ......
.....BZZZZT. Wrong.
The answer is -- "Bill Clinton's presidential pardon of tax evader Marc Rich".
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"liberal Media" my ass.
500lbguerilla
05-11-2007, 02:11 AM
Speaking about the US protecting Terrorists....
Twenty two years ago a group of French government agents blew up a ship known as the Rainbow Warrior off the coast of New Zealand. On board were activists from the group Greenpeace who were protesting French nuclear testing in the Pacific. One member of Greenpeace died in the blast. Thirteen French agents were identified as being directly involved in the bombing but only two were ever convicted. Now it has been revealed that the commander of the unit is living freely in McLean, Virginia. Louis-Pierre Dillais is president of an arms manufacturer with several government contracts. Greenpeace has urged the Department of Homeland Security to deport Dillais became of his direct ties to an act of state terrorism. But the Bush administration has not moved on the request. We speak with Greenpeace attorney Deepa Isac.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/10/1418244
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If he was convicted by trickery, then no he shouldn't be deportedSo then he should be deported because it says he was 'tricked' when interviewed. The conviction was based on information he revealed. Do you propose we overturn all evidence based on 'trickery'?
"hey man can I buy some pot?"
'sure'
"ha ha youre busted"
"nuh'uh trickery doesn't hold up in court coppers..."
BTW this came as the US government was seeking to silence Posada from talking about his CIA connections. Coincidence that he is immediately released?
LionelHutz
05-11-2007, 11:37 AM
So then he should be deported because it says he was 'tricked' when interviewed. The conviction was based on information he revealed. Do you propose we overturn all evidence based on 'trickery'?
"hey man can I buy some pot?"
'sure'
"ha ha youre busted"
"nuh'uh trickery doesn't hold up in court coppers..."
What you say while you're in custody and what you say on the street are treated differently.
BTW this came as the US government was seeking to silence Posada from talking about his CIA connections. Coincidence that he is immediately released?
Depends on whether or not you think the judicial branch is in cahoots with the executive. I tend to think they're not.
warrior1972
05-11-2007, 12:14 PM
By ANITA SNOW, Associated Press Writer
Fri May 11, 9:44 AM ET
HAVANA - Cuba accused the U.S. government on Friday of violating international anti-terrorism treaties by allowing Luis Posada Carriles, a man Havana accuses of violent acts against the country, to walk free of all charges after an immigration indictment against him was dropped.
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"The U.S. government has not only violated its own laws and supposed commitment to its self-proclaimed 'War Against Terrorism,' but also to its own international obligations," said a government declaration published Friday in the Communist Party newspaper Granma.
The declaration detailed several international treaties it said the United States had violated, but did not say whether it would take any diplomatic action.
The 79-year-old Posada was freed of all charges on Tuesday when a U.S. district judge threw out an immigration indictment against him, accusing the U.S. government of "fraud, deceit and trickery" while trying to buy time for a separate criminal investigation.
Detained on immigration charges in March 2005, the Cuban-born Posada had been awaiting trial in Texas on charges of lying to U.S. immigration officials. He was freed on bond last month pending his court appearance, but until Tuesday was still under house arrest and had been required to wear an electronic monitoring device.
"We'll have to see now what the White House does," the Cuban declaration said. "It still has the option to fulfill its international obligations to detain Luis Posada Carriles and extradite him to the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela."
Havana accuses Posada of orchestrating a string of 1997 Havana hotel bombings, which killed an Italian tourist, and in the 1976 bombing of a Cuban airliner that killed 73 people.
Venezuela is seeking to extradite Posada in the jetliner explosion, but a U.S. federal judge ruled that Posada cannot be sent there or to Cuba for fear he may be tortured.
Accusing the U.S. government of hypocrisy, the Cuban declaration noted that "meanwhile, it maintains a prison in part of the territory it occupies in Cuba in Guantanamo and maintains prisons in the length and breadth of the planet where the most aberrant and inhumane acts are committed."
The Cuban government's statement said the U.S. could have continued to hold Posada under the U.S. Patriot Act, which was passed after the 2001 terror attacks on the United States, by simply declaring him a national security risk.
paulc
05-11-2007, 12:27 PM
During the 1970s and 1980s,the UK Government used 'Supergrasses' members of IRA teams who turned and gave evidence against they're comrades.People were sentenced to very long times in jail,on the word of people who were themselves involved in the incidents.
The first of these was a man called Christopher Black,he was part of an IRA unit who killed and bombed a lot in parts of Belfast.When he was caught he turned.Anyway the case against the IRA men collapsed and Black disappeared.20 years later it was reported that he died in a car crash in New Mexico were he had been given a new identity and life.