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warrior1972
05-03-2007, 02:59 AM
Story Highlights• 40,000 mothers responded to survey at Salary.com
• Mothers explained what their job entailed, how many hours they worked
• Salary.com says mothers work at least 10 jobs, put in 92 hours per week
• Company used median salaries for jobs, calculated work hours for each

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(Reuters) -- When Tricia Himawan was a financial analyst, she worked 50 hours a week and earned about $75,000 a year. Now, she works, by her estimation, about 119 hours a week doing 11 different jobs, and, for 10 of them, she makes ... nothing.

"I work nonstop as a mother," says Himawan, of West Orange, New Jersey, as she breast-feeds her nine-month-old son Jonas and watches over 4-year-old Juliana.

If she were paid for her work as a mother, she would be earning almost $140,000 a year.

That is the conclusion of research conducted by Salary.com, a firm based in Waltham, Massachusetts, that specializes in determining compensation. Himawan was one of 40,000 mothers who responded online to Salary.com explaining what their job entailed and how many hours they worked. (Book urges mothers to stay in work force)

The typical mother puts in a 92-hour work week, the company concluded, and works at least 10 jobs. In order of hours spent on them per week, these are: housekeeper, day-care center teacher, cook, computer operator, laundry machine operator, janitor, facilities manager, van driver, chief executive officer and psychologist. By figuring out the median salaries for each position, and calculating the average number of hours worked at each, the firm came up with $138,095 -- three percent higher than last year's results. (Audio Slide Show: Evolution of motherhood)

Even mothers who work full-time jobs outside the home put in $85,939 worth of work as mothers, according to Salary.com.

"My work is my family right now, and my backbone is about to break," says Himawan, who now also works at home as a real-estate broker."My baby is on my hip 24 hours a day."

Frogger
05-03-2007, 03:45 AM
What an unbelievable crock.

The typical mother puts in a 92-hour work week, the company concluded, and works at least 10 jobs. In order of hours spent on them per week, these are: housekeeper, day-care center teacher, cook, computer operator, laundry machine operator, janitor, facilities manager, van driver, chief executive officer and psychologist. By figuring out the median salaries for each position, and calculating the average number of hours worked at each, the firm came up with $138,095 -- three percent higher than last year's results. (Audio Slide Show: Evolution of motherhood)

Housekeeping is listed as a seperate category from laundry machine operator, janitor, facilities manager and chief executive officer even though that is what housekeeping is. Laundry machine operator is just a part time job. It doesn't take forty hours a week to do laundry. In fact all the jobs are either part time or total bullshit. Mothers don't drive vans full time, nor do they do any of their other jobs full time. They are not licensed psychologists either. Who gets paid for playing on a computer. They are not full time computer operators, they are in chat halls or playing solitaire on the computer.

What the people at salary.com have done is twist the facts to make it seem that stay at home mom's work each of these jobs full time and that in addition they should be paid top salary for each of these jobs.

The group also fails to factor in the compensation that stay at home moms already get, free room and board, free clothing, free car or van, free vacations, free nights out, etc.

Surveys like this are always a bunch of self serving pap.

How about factoring in the jobs working fathers do at home also. They mow the lawn, (pay them as full time landscapers), they fix the family car (auto mechanics make lots of money), they too chauffer the kids around (full time van driver just like the stay at home moms), all this in addition to holding down a forty hour a week job that also entails driving to and from work.

If women want to claim their 'job' as a stay at home mom is worth $140,000 they had better be prepared to kick in their share of the mortgage, property taxes, food bill, heating bill, electric bill, buy their own cars and pay for the gas they put in them, and pay for the rest of the things provided by their non-stay at home husbands.

mikezila
05-03-2007, 03:52 AM
What an unbelievable crock.

The typical mother puts in a 92-hour work week, the company concluded, and works at least 10 jobs. In order of hours spent on them per week, these are: housekeeper, day-care center teacher, cook, computer operator, laundry machine operator, janitor, facilities manager, van driver, chief executive officer and psychologist. By figuring out the median salaries for each position, and calculating the average number of hours worked at each, the firm came up with $138,095 -- three percent higher than last year's results. (Audio Slide Show: Evolution of motherhood)

Housekeeping is listed as a seperate category from laundry machine operator, janitor, facilities manager and chief executive officer even though that is what housekeeping is. Laundry machine operator is just a part time job. It doesn't take forty hours a week to do laundry. In fact all the jobs are either part time or total bullshit. Mothers don't drive vans full time, nor do they do any of their other jobs full time. They are not licensed psychologists either. Who gets paid for playing on a computer. They are not full time computer operators, they are in chat halls or playing solitaire on the computer.

What the people at salary.com have done is twist the facts to make it seem that stay at home mom's work each of these jobs full time and that in addition they should be paid top salary for each of these jobs.

The group also fails to factor in the compensation that stay at home moms already get, free room and board, free clothing, free car or van, free vacations, free nights out, etc.

Surveys like this are always a bunch of self serving pap.

How about factoring in the jobs working fathers do at home also. They mow the lawn, (pay them as full time landscapers), they fix the family car (auto mechanics make lots of money), they too chauffer the kids around (full time van driver just like the stay at home moms), all this in addition to holding down a forty hour a week job that also entails driving to and from work.

If women want to claim their 'job' as a stay at home mom is worth $140,000 they had better be prepared to kick in their share of the mortgage, property taxes, food bill, heating bill, electric bill, buy their own cars and pay for the gas they put in them, and pay for the rest of the things provided by their non-stay at home husbands.
you forgot half of the children's support.

Phyrex
05-03-2007, 04:34 AM
Aw come on now, I'm glad my mother put in all the time she did, and still is putting in the time. I'm almost 22, I left home when I was 19. She still has 3 kids at home, oldest being 13. Good moms are great. The work that they do I don't think that you could really put a price on.

Evakian
05-03-2007, 05:02 AM
Warrior, what the hell are you doing back?

Phyrex
05-03-2007, 05:47 AM
She was banned for 24 hours Evak.

mikezila
05-03-2007, 06:01 AM
She was banned for 24 hours Evak.
some of us were hoping she paid as much attention to that as anything else.

Evakian
05-03-2007, 06:04 AM
She was banned for 24 hours Evak.
I was aware, though I didn't place any bets in favor of that she would be able to read the ban correctly.

mikezila
05-03-2007, 06:07 AM
I was aware, though I didn't place any bets in favor of that she would be able to read the ban correctly.
check her IMUS SUES thread...it's too easy for me:cool:

Frogger
05-03-2007, 06:55 AM
Phyrex,

My mother was a stay at home mom for my youth as my wife was when our kids were young. I'm not saying stay at home moms don't work hard. I am saying the survey is bogus.

mikezila
05-03-2007, 07:10 AM
even if it wasn't (which i agree w/Frogger on), does anyone get paid what they're worth?

rendova
05-03-2007, 08:23 AM
A mom's REAL pay---

"Mommy, I love you."


You cannot put a price tag on that.

Imp
05-03-2007, 08:25 AM
Well, for me, the joy of being a momma is reward enough.

Seeing a smile on his face, a fresh picked flower from him, cuddling with him, and being able to see the world thru his eyes are priceless.
I'd be insulted if someone would even think about trying to 'pay' me for the chance to be 'mom' or for any of the given responsibilities that come with it.

rendova
05-03-2007, 08:25 AM
Good post, Imp. :)

Imp
05-03-2007, 08:29 AM
As was yours Ren. Spot on!

rendova
05-03-2007, 09:01 AM
Something else that occured to me---

Kids age 4 or 5 can pick up their room, wash a simple dish, feed the cat or dog.

Kids about 7-8 can make their beds, sweep, do simple yard work, scrub a tub,take out the trash.

Kids 9 or 10 can wash a car, do laundry, mow a lawn (with supervision)

Not only does this help the parents, kids like feeling useful and needed and are learning useful skills.

We all live at the house--we should all help with the upkeep.

Leper
05-03-2007, 10:11 AM
So if I put the toilet seat down 100000 times in my lifetime after I urinate, does that mean I deserve $100,000 over the course of my life because that's what it would cost to hire someone to do it for me?

warrior1972
05-03-2007, 10:21 AM
Well I think it is a nice idea I know when I go back to work I am putting stuff on my resume like "on call 24/7" We had a recent bought with the flu. One week Rain got it age 3 and I was waking up at 3 am to clean up puke on our all white carpeting and comforting her then in the morning she had dirraha and it ran through her diaper and all over the white carpet so I was cleaning that all up. Then the next Saturday Winter my 6 year old got it and for 4 days I was cleaning up puke and runny shit and then trying to sanitize the whole house. They forgot tutor as another job because when Winter gets back from school we go through her homework. She is only in kindergarden now so there is not much homework but as they get older it increases. We spend about 2 hours a night on writing right now. I am sure this time will increase with grade level than you have to think 2-3 kids homework loads.
I do not mind not getting paid but I don't put up with any shit with my husband and money. Men who act like woman have no say how the money is to be spend because the man is working and the woman is a stay at home mom. We are a team and his money is our money and I have equal say in how it is spent. Also I do not let my husband tell me how to disipline my kids or how to run my household since that is my job. He use to try and get on me for not folding the laundry right away and I turned and asked him " Do I go to your workplace and tell you how to do your job?"
He has since been quiet about it.
I am putting on my resume Domestic Household Management and put down skills like "Inventory" Since I buy all the food and house products and make sure we never run out. "Dedication" because I will do anything for my kids. Good at Multi tasking since I am in school studying and having to deal with kids fighting over a stuff animal or what knot.
As for people who say moms play on the internet all day. That simply is not true and even if it was the kids are always in the background needing help with homework or fighting with a sibling that you need to break up and you never get away from it. I understand woman wanting outside stimulation with intelligent people. It is a 24 hour job and you are always on call.
I mean when the kids have a nightmare or sick and throwing up how many men are getting out of bed to sooth the child? Hell they don't even realize it is happening they are too busy snoring.
I would say 138,000 is a bit much but I would give mothers at least 60,000 a year for what they do.

warrior1972
05-03-2007, 10:25 AM
Something else that occured to me---

Kids age 4 or 5 can pick up their room, wash a simple dish, feed the cat or dog.

Kids about 7-8 can make their beds, sweep, do simple yard work, scrub a tub,take out the trash.

Kids 9 or 10 can wash a car, do laundry, mow a lawn (with supervision)

Not only does this help the parents, kids like feeling useful and needed and are learning useful skills.

We all live at the house--we should all help with the upkeep.

That would fall under Managment because you have to tell the kid like 10 times to do it and then sometimes stand there and watch them do it which is not really saving time and you are still technically doing work. Your Managing thier behavior. A JOB that millions of managers do everyday for adults too.

rendova
05-03-2007, 10:58 AM
That would fall under Managment because you have to tell the kid like 10 times to do it and then sometimes stand there and watch them do it .

No, I don't.

warrior1972
05-03-2007, 11:01 AM
well maybe it gets better with age my daughter is 6 and her only chore is cleaning her own bedroom and it is an absolute pain in the ass. I might as well clean it myself. It takes like an hour to get her to do it when I could clean in it 10 minutes but I am trying to teach her responsibility.

Imp
05-03-2007, 12:50 PM
No, I don't.

Me either. Sammys 7, *and an exception to the rule* but does as he is able. My stepson JJ is 10, I only say it once and they do it. Of course they keep it clean in the first place and pick up after themselfs after they play, so it usually don't take them long to straighten it.