Nothing at all. :eek:

I don't think abortion, per se, was a major problem back in those days.

The Bible does say stuff about the sanctity of life though.

The Bible also says nothing about open heart surgery, jet planes, and lots of things that were not around at that time.

I don't think abortion, per se, was a major problem back in those days.

The Bible does say stuff about the sanctity of life though.

The Bible also says nothing about open heart surgery, jet planes, and lots of things that were not around at that time.
The central point of the abortion debate is that human life begins at conception--that at the moment of conception a miracle happens and the little bit of tissue is given an immortal soul.

I would like to see where anything of that sort is to be found in the Bible.

I suspect the the OT jews would not have had a problem with abortion, so long as it wasn't a first-born male :)

Well now that the pope has taken it upon himself to get rid of Limbo than I think those little fetus's since you claim they have an "immortal soul" will go straight to heaven. I would rather them be in heaven than to live an unwanted and terrible life here on earth. Why put it through the pain and suffering. Free ticket to heaven.

I don't think abortion, per se, was a major problem back in those days.

The Bible does say stuff about the sanctity of life though.

The Bible also says nothing about open heart surgery, jet planes, and lots of things that were not around at that time.


God was ok with killing little kids and babies if it suited him

Remember he hardened the pherohs heart not to let the Jews go so he could send his Angel Gabrail I believe to murder all the first born of the Egyptions including little babies.

Must be nice to punish and murder innocent babies for the fault of One Pheroh.

I remember somewhere in the O/T where God ordered the Jews to (Slit the Bellies of the pregant women of the people they were attacking. And to pull the Fetuses from their bodies and dash them against the Rocks. Or some such thing.

Here's a bible quote that defines the fetus as property:

Exodus 21:22-23 (New International Version)
22 "If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely [a] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life,

Footnotes:
[a]Exodus 21:22 Or she has a miscarriage

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus%2021:22-23;&version=31;

God was ok with killing little kids and babies if it suited him

Remember he hardened the pherohs heart not to let the Jews go so he could send his Angel Gabrail I believe to murder all the first born of the Egyptions including little babies.

Must be nice to punish and murder innocent babies for the fault of One Pheroh.Christian believers in Absolute Morality urge us to look at the Bible relative to its wider social, cultural and historical contexts.

I've heard that banned abortion for saving pregnant female lives.
Before modern ages, abortion was danger to pregnant female because with unformed medical technology.

I've heard that banned abortion for saving pregnant female lives.
Before modern ages, abortion was danger to pregnant female because with unformed medical technology.

Yes, that was the major consequence of the new Supreme Court's decision on abortion last week. For the first time ever the health of the woman is no longer taken into consideration.

I've heard that banned abortion for saving pregnant female lives.
Before modern ages, abortion was danger to pregnant female because with unformed medical technology.
Something you probably don't understand about western thinking--they think all "sin" is equally loathsome in the eyes of God--so uttering a sacrilegious swear word condemns you to eternity in Hell every bit as much as mass murder.

This causes me to have no end of difficulty talking to Westerners about morality--even non-Christian Westerners cannot break that thought pattern. When one says something is "immoral," they conclude that you are putting it right up there with genocide and terrorism.

I think any taking of life is immoral, but taking sentient life is far worse, and taking human life is even worse, and taking human life deliberately and without good cause (such as self defense) is even worse. There are degrees of sin. It is not "all or nothing."

Further, there usually is offsetting merit. We spray the crops, committing the offense of killing insect life (which is living but has limited if any sentience) in order to have the greater good of feeding human beings.

On the abortion topic, it is true that any abortion should be avoided, but often there is an offsetting need--poverty, emotional imbalance, immaturity, danger to the health of the mother, and so on.

Now, as the fetus develops it becomes more and more sentient, so the later in the term an abortion happens the more morally offensive it is.

There is a separate but related issue in the involvement of the law in the abortion debate--should abortion be a crime the way murder (including infanticide) is a crime?

I see two offsetting issues: the fact that criminal statutes should not be used to enforce private morality (religions should not try to influence government to enforce its rules) as opposed to society's need to protect its members.

For late-term abortions, except when medically necessary and efforts are made to save the child, I can see a good case for legal prohibition. For abortions involving a fetus that is not sentient, I would oppose such laws, even though personally I find them morally offensive.

Yes, that was the major consequence of the new Supreme Court's decision on abortion last week. For the first time ever the health of the woman is no longer taken into consideration.
You don't state things accurately. The health of the woman may or may not be taken into consideration, depending on the details of the statute. They handed over this power to the legislature.

Abortion Restrictions Should be as Followes

1) Within the first 18 Weeks It can be done for any reason or no reason at all.

2) Within the last 18 weeks, It can be done due to health problems with the fetus, Health problems with the mother,

There we Go. We can live with this now cant we?

An excerpt from a conversation I had with a friend last night...

godsandmen: So, why is it that you don't eat eggs?

friend: Chicken abortions!!!!

:) She's too funny!

You don't state things accurately. The health of the woman may or may not be taken into consideration, depending on the details of the statute. They handed over this power to the legislature.

Actually Thislin, yes I am stating things accurately.

The specific legislation that the Supreme Court just upheld (Public Law No. 108-105, a.k.a the "Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003") does not take the health of the mother into account... as I said.

An excerpt from a conversation I had with a friend last night...

godsandmen: So, why is it that you don't eat eggs?

friend: Chicken abortions!!!!

:) She's too funny!
In that case she should be willing to eat the white.

The Bible does say stuff about the sanctity of life though.
Does it define this life? Why do you take a leap in order to connect the Bible with your stance on abortion?