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The Dude
04-27-2007, 11:19 AM
The Bible can be downloaded here
http://info.elf.stuba.sk/packages/pub/pc/educult/theobl.zip (9.4m)
The Quran can be downloaded here
http://info.elf.stuba.sk/packages/pub/pc/educult/islam450.zip (1.4m)
A Bible Companion v5.1 - Electronic Handbook
http://info.elf.stuba.sk/packages/pub/pc/educult/bcomp510.zip (190k)
For all to study.
God bless
warrior1972
04-27-2007, 11:21 AM
Read them both and think they are both written to control man and to use thier soul as a hostage to do certain things and behave a certian way.
Both are books of ignorance.
gafar
04-27-2007, 12:06 PM
Unfortunetly you have not read the two main holy books carefully and researched the meaning of their phrases in details.we better not rush to conclusions and try again to study them before jumping to conclusions.Thanks
The Dude
04-27-2007, 12:42 PM
Another good reference for online bibles in many languages
http://www.wbtc.com/site/PageServer?pagename=downloads_main
warrior1972
04-27-2007, 02:09 PM
Unfortunetly you have not read the two main holy books carefully and researched the meaning of their phrases in details.we better not rush to conclusions and try again to study them before jumping to conclusins.Thanks
Oh please. I have read them throroughly LOL.
The bible and the Quran where written 2,000 years ago in a culture that no longer exist about a god there is no proof of.
Yes make up this place of hell and if you do not do certian things in your life we will hold your soul hostage and you will burn forever but if you do what we want you will go to heaven where everything is perfect and you get to be happy forever and met all your loved ones.
It is supersition, fable and fairy tales like the boogy man.
Thre is not one shred of evidence of this god... Jealous god. What does a god have to do with jealousy? That is a human trait.
God is a male.. what does god need with a gender?
Tower of babble why does god need to divide the human race because when they are united they are a threat to him? Why would god be threatened by humans?
Genocide of the human race by flooding the earth to rid everyone because a few groups sinned. I call that crimes against humanity.
God hardening the pherohs heart so that he can murder innocent babies and other 1rst born of the pheroh.
In Gensis it says that "man is made in OUR image" Meaning a whole race of beings not just one.
I know more about the bible than you ever would.
As for the Quran..it speaks for itself. I have never seen a book that promotes so much hate and violence against those who do not believe and that it says it is ok for you to beat your wife if she does not do what you want. That a womans word is half that of a man. Yadda yadda yadda..
Both books of ignorance and anyone who lays down logic for superstition is a moron in my eyes. To say there is no such thing as evolution is so brainwashed they no longer posses logic.
warrior1972
04-27-2007, 02:13 PM
For Hindus
http://www.microbooks.org/catalog/page/hindu/holy_books.htm
For wiccans
http://www.thehermitsgrove.org/PDFs/HolyBooks.pdf
Buddhist and the 8 fold path
http://www.mimbres.com/holp/holpath/EfP0.htm
These religions or just as valid as any other.
SeanJohn
04-27-2007, 05:17 PM
Oh please. I have read them throroughly LOL.
The bible and the Quran where written 2,000 years ago in a culture that no longer exist about a god there is no proof of.
Yes make up this place of hell and if you do not do certian things in your life we will hold your soul hostage and you will burn forever but if you do what we want you will go to heaven where everything is perfect and you get to be happy forever and met all your loved ones.
It is supersition, fable and fairy tales like the boogy man.
Thre is not one shred of evidence of this god... Jealous god. What does a god have to do with jealousy? That is a human trait.
God is a male.. what does god need with a gender?
Tower of babble why does god need to divide the human race because when they are united they are a threat to him? Why would god be threatened by humans?
Genocide of the human race by flooding the earth to rid everyone because a few groups sinned. I call that crimes against humanity.
God hardening the pherohs heart so that he can murder innocent babies and other 1rst born of the pheroh.
In Gensis it says that "man is made in OUR image" Meaning a whole race of beings not just one.
I know more about the bible than you ever would.
As for the Quran..it speaks for itself. I have never seen a book that promotes so much hate and violence against those who do not believe and that it says it is ok for you to beat your wife if she does not do what you want. That a womans word is half that of a man. Yadda yadda yadda..
Both books of ignorance and anyone who lays down logic for superstition is a moron in my eyes. To say there is no such thing as evolution is so brainwashed they no longer posses logic.
both book contain much wisdom in them, it's just how one interprets them. The books themselves were not written to control anybody, its the religions that are formed around the message of the books that try 2 control. You obviously don't know as much of the bible as you say if you are going to call it a book of ignorance, read proverbs, just that one book in the bible, if you can say that everything in there in ignorance, then I'd hate 2 see what u call knowledge.
warrior1972
04-27-2007, 05:35 PM
science is knowlege
Yes the bible is meant to control you. I mean common how else are you suppose to maintain order but to claim this all powerful god will punish you if you don't follow rules. That he is always watching you yadda yadda yadda.
The bible has no more wisom than the buddhist 8 fold path and the hindu and Wiccan religious text.
Travh20
04-27-2007, 05:45 PM
Read them both and think they are both written to control man and to use thier soul as a hostage to do certain things and behave a certian way.
Both are books of ignorance.
I think the best use for them is to piss people like you off, it is really quite amusing watching you foam at the mouth at the mention of the book.
Thislin
04-27-2007, 06:58 PM
Buddhists do not have anything that is the equivalent in Buddhism to the Bible in Christianity or the Q'uran in Islam, including the Noble Eightfold Path.
1. Right View (http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html#Right_View)
2. Right Intention (http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html#Right_Intention)
3. Right Speech (http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html#Right_Speech)
4. Right Action (http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html#Right_Action)
5. Right Livelihood (http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html#Right_Livelihood)
6. Right Effort (http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html#Right_Effort)
7. Right Mindfulness (http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html#Right_Mindfulness)
8. Right Concentration (http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html#Right_Concentration)
warrior1972
04-27-2007, 07:05 PM
No what I am saying is that the bible is not the only book of wisdom out there.
All religions have wisdom and good works in them not just the bible. The bible and god is not the end all being of enlightment and happiness.
Evakian
04-27-2007, 07:13 PM
The Bible can be downloaded here
http://info.elf.stuba.sk/packages/pub/pc/educult/theobl.zip (9.4m)
The Quran can be downloaded here
http://info.elf.stuba.sk/packages/pub/pc/educult/islam450.zip (1.4m)
Bible is 9.4m, Qu'ran is only 1.4m.
Conclusion: Jesus Owns Mohammed.
All religions have wisdom and good works in them not just the bible. The bible and god is not the end all being of enlightment and happiness.
You're Wiccan, right?
If so, shut up.
warrior1972
04-27-2007, 08:15 PM
What does wiccan have to do with it? I am not going to shut up. You don't like my post hit the ignore button otherwise it is your own fault exposing yourself to my posts. Your problem not mine.
Frogger
04-27-2007, 08:36 PM
Read them both and think they are both written to control man and to use thier soul as a hostage to do certain things and behave a certian way.
Both are books of ignorance.
I seriously doubt you have read either one.
Evakian
04-27-2007, 09:00 PM
What does wiccan have to do with it?
Well, you're Wiccan...which means:
1) You're loud-mouthed.
2) You're not intelligent.
3) You're fat.
4) You're lame.
5) You're better than everyone in your own mind.
Incidentally, your postings coincide with what makes Wiccan young woman.
DarkFantasy96
04-27-2007, 09:43 PM
The Bible, the Torah, the Quran... All of them contain interesting myths and parables and quite a bit of wisdom which would be a shame to not pass on. How could there be anything wrong with "Love thy neighbor"?
That is not to say that these books are completely correct. They have a bit of historical value and a lot of cultural value, but are also filled with outdated "laws".
I agree with SeanJohn here (welcome to Allforums by the way), in that the books themselves are not meant to control anyone, it is the religions that have sprung up around the books that have corrupted the message into one of power mongering.
warrior1972
04-27-2007, 09:56 PM
Well, you're Wiccan...which means:
1) You're loud-mouthed.
2) You're not intelligent.
3) You're fat.
4) You're lame.
5) You're better than everyone in your own mind.
Incidentally, your postings coincide with what makes Wiccan young woman.
1) You're loud-mouthed.
Proud to be loud !!! Rosie is my cheerleader. The louder the better I always say.
2) You're not intelligent.
False. Highly intelligent. Mentally ill has nothing to do with intelligents. They don't give above average intelligents in mensa if you are dumb. Nice try though but I trust a test by mensa than from some peon on a message board such as yourself.
3) You're fat.
Yep and I am proud. I am not one bit ashamed of my weight. Gives my kids more to love and my husband more to cuddle. I would rather be fat than a skinny superficail bitch who gets horney men coming on to them all the time instead of looking at them for who they are and not what they look like and sex objects.
4) You're lame.
Sorry I have great insults and great ideas and concepts and bust out lies and propaganda. I am polorizing, inquizaitve and a non conformist and very proud to be.
5) You're better than everyone in your own mind.
Nope that is not true. Everyone is equal here. No one is better than anyone else. I just think some people are in the dark about some things and I expose what they do not want to face and people don't like it. I tell it like it is no sugar coat and I am not busy trying to impress anyone. Anytime I have ever attacked anyone they attacked me first. There are many people on this board I have never had a problem with and probably never will.
let see..
fat
loudmouth
mentally ill
polarizing
intelligent
fights for the underdog
artistic
neurotic
introverted
intuition
feeling
judging
couragous
Phyrex
04-28-2007, 04:06 AM
The bible and the Quran where written 2,000 years ago in a culture that no longer exist about a god there is no proof of.
Koran was written in like the 600's just fyi.
And why do people have to automatically bash someone for simply posting links to stuff like this?
The Dude
07-24-2007, 03:18 AM
Another good online Bible :)
This one allows you to read through the entire Bible in a year,with selected readings for each day.
http://www.dailybible.com
Online Quran in Many languages
http://www.quran.nu
Innocent Sweety
07-25-2007, 05:46 AM
Well, this is interesting. Thanks for posting the links.
Phyrex is right the Quran was created in the 600's. I say "created" cause Muslims believe that these verses were said by God, that were sent through the angel Gabriel to Prophet Mohammed (May Peace and Prayers Be Upon Him), and that he would recite the verses to the people (as he didn't know how to write nor read) and they would memorize it or write it down. Just an fyi ;)
As for the Quran..it speaks for itself. I have never seen a book that promotes so much hate and violence against those who do not believe and that it says it is ok for you to beat your wife if she does not do what you want. That a womans word is half that of a man. Yadda yadda yadda...
Lol ok.
It's not okay to beat your wife or treat women as unequal to men. Some rules that may seem unfair do have a point behind them. I'd be more than glad to explain... Come to this (http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?t=7729&page=10) thread if you'd like to take this further, I don't think The Dude would want us to discuss this here.
Napsterbater
07-25-2007, 12:31 PM
Warrior, you can see by looking at her name and user title, has been banned for some time now.