Story Highlights• Actor Alec Baldwin left the angry phone message for daughter
• Message: "You don't have the brains or the decency"
• Message: "Your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass"
• Mother, Kim Basinger, was married to Baldwin from '93 to '01

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LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- The tension between movie-star exes Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger erupted when an angry phone message from Baldwin to his daughter was made public.

The recording was published Thursday by celebrity news site TMZ.com, which said the call was placed on April 11.

On the recording, Baldwin can be heard admonishing his 11-year-old daughter, Ireland, "You are a rude, thoughtless little pig." (Watch for the rest of what Baldwin said during his rant )

"You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being," he says, apparently upset that she did not answer her phone for a planned call.

"I don't give a damn that you're 12 years old, or 11 years old, or that you're a child, or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass who doesn't care about what you do as far as I'm concerned. You have humiliated me for the last time with this phone."

He goes on to say that he plans to fly from New York to Los Angeles "for the day just to straighten you out on this issue."

Baldwin's spokesman said in a statement Thursday that, "in the best interest of the child," the 49-year-old actor "will do what the mother is pathologically incapable of doing ... keeping his mouth shut and obeying the court order.

"The mother and her lawyer leaked this sealed material in violation of a court order," he continued. "Although Alec acknowledges that he should have used different language in parenting his child, everyone who knows him privately knows what he has been put through for the past six years."

"The voice mail speaks for itself," Basinger's spokeswoman said.

Calls to Basinger's and Baldwin's attorneys were not returned.

Baldwin and Basinger, 53, were married in 1993. They have been involved in prolonged legal disputes over custody and other issues since she filed for divorce in 2001, which was granted in 2002. The couple's differences have been aired several times in public.

Basinger was charged with contempt of court in October for violating terms of a 2004 custody agreement. A motion by her lawyers to dismiss the charges was denied Wednesday in Los Angeles Superior Court. The next hearing on visitation issues is scheduled for May 4.

TMZ is a part of the AOL network of Internet properties. AOL is a unit of Time Warner, as is CNN.

Was he angered because there was a regular time when calls were scheduled as part of the court ordered visitatation? That said, the language is wrong. It is very sad when parents who have divorced use their children as pawns in their continuing battle with each other.

Pfft. My daddy has said much worse, and look at me. I turned out just fine!:hahanot:

I dont like baldwin or his politics, but let them man take care of his family as he sees fit without having people on message bords deciding if he is a good father or not, I am sick of this constant snooping into eeryones private life. Its not like he pulled a rosie odonnel and said it on national TV, then it would be open for debate. Sadley, in todays society peple like Rosie who make public comments on nationl TV should not be criticized but a guys private message to his own daughter should be.

I think a private call is a private call. Even tho its easy to scan a mobile conversation, its something we shouldnt do. Its that low a thing only governments usually do it.

Was he angered because there was a regular time when calls were scheduled as part of the court ordered visitatation? That said, the language is wrong. It is very sad when parents who have divorced use their children as pawns in their continuing battle with each other.

Yes I completely agree with you. Do you guys know what parental aleination is?
It is when one parent turns the child against the other parent using the custodian parent and uses the child as a weopon againt the visitation parent. Set the child up to do thing like not wanting to take calls questioning the other parent such as "why don't you love me" or the other party telling the child inapproprate things about the other adults personal life like. "your date cheated on me and left you for another woman" "if your father really loved you he wouldn't yell at you"

stuff like that. Prolly what is going on and he got pissed and made that phone call. He directed at the child but the child was set up by the mother to emotionally hurt the father.

I know all about it. Had the same thing happen to me with my ex and my son when he was 6.
At 6 he was told that I did not love him or want him and other such nonesense which really confused the boy.

Pfft. My daddy has said much worse, and look at me. I turned out just fine!:hahanot:

Some people come out of IRaq just fine to that doesn't mean the ones who do come back from war with PTSD are faking it or not "that sick"

Trauma effects people in different ways just because you came away from it unscathed does not mean other peoples brain patterns were changed from it.

and to let you know you may develope problems later in life and you may have problems now associated to it and not even know it.

I was fine all through high school and some college without any symptoms or problems but when I got pregnant it got triggered and I started showing signs of Trauma. My subconscious had tucked it way and something brought it upfront.

So you are not out of the woods for developeing any emotional problems.
Personally I consider you to be in a stage of Numbness which very common for truama survivors. I was very narcisistic too for a while saying cruel things to people all the time. Signs you show.

Just because your subcious has tucked it away doesn't mean something will trigger it at sometime in your life and I hope to god you are more passionate with yourself about this weakness than you are on others.

I think a private call is a private call. Even tho its easy to scan a mobile conversation, its something we shouldnt do. Its that low a thing only governments usually do it.

Yes it was a dirty trick of the mother to release it too the media. Perfect example of charactor assisination and proof she is probably responsible for parental alienation.

On local radio talk show this morning they put the question to the on-air personalities. This was a decidedly conservative talk show and all of them generally dislike Alec Baldwin.

Any one of them who had a daughter, though they didn't like the language, understood exactly what he was feeling. Me too.

e is a frustrated, sad father who loves his daughter. The only way you can be that angry at someone is if you love them or hate them very much. If he hated her, he could just continue living his life seperately from her, but he's not doing that.

Some people come out of IRaq just fine to that doesn't mean the ones who do come back from war with PTSD are faking it or not "that sick"
I never said they were. My daddy came back from Vietnam with his head screwed on sideways when I was 5. He made everyones life hell.

Trauma effects people in different ways just because you came away from it unscathed does not mean other peoples brain patterns were changed from it.
Hardly unscathed. It's nice that you can pull shit out of your ass without really knowing the facts about someone.

and to let you know you may develope problems later in life and you may have problems now associated to it and not even know it.
I faced my issues just like this little girl will when she is older and can handle them.

I was fine all through high school and some college without any symptoms or problems but when I got pregnant it got triggered and I started showing signs of Trauma. My subconscious had tucked it way and something brought it upfront.
Now deal with it and get over this 'victim' mentality you have going on.

So you are not out of the woods for developeing any emotional problems.
Personally I consider you to be in a stage of Numbness which very common for truama survivors. I was very narcisistic too for a while saying cruel things to people all the time. Signs you show.
Don't label me. You have no friggin' idea where I am in the path of life.

Just because your subcious has tucked it away doesn't mean something will trigger it at sometime in your life and I hope to god you are more passionate with yourself about this weakness than you are on others.
I am brutally honest with myself and will be with you and others.

It is very sad when parents who have divorced use their children as pawns in their continuing battle with each other.
It is a crying shame young ones are ripped apart because their parents use them as bargaining chips.

Story Highlights• NEW: Alec Baldwin explains tirade against daughter
• NEW: Baldwin "sorry for what happened"
• Baldwin, ex-wife Kim Basinger have longtime custody disputes
• Message run on TMZ.com; how site got it is unknown
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LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- As Alec Baldwin's angry words to his daughter were being broadcast around the world, the 49-year-old actor explained himself Friday on his Web site.

"Although I have been told by numerous people not to worry too much, as all parents lose their patience with their kids, I am most saddened that this was released to the media because of what it does to a child," he wrote. "I'm sorry, as everyone who knows me is aware, for losing my temper with my child. I have been driven to the edge by parental alienation for many years now. You have to go through this to understand. (Although I hope you never do.) I am sorry for what happened. But I am equally sorry that a court order was violated, which had deliberately been put under seal in this case."

The tension between Baldwin and his ex-wife, Kim Basinger, had erupted earlier when an angry phone message from Baldwin to his daughter was made public. The couple has been involved in bitter custody disputes over their daughter, Ireland, since their divorce in 2002.

The recording was published Thursday by celebrity news site TMZ.com, which said the call was placed on April 11. (Watch for what Baldwin said during his rant )

"In such public cases, your opponents attempt to take a picture of you on your worst day and insist that this is who you are as a person," Baldwin wrote. "Outside the doors of divorce court, I have friends, I have respect from people I work with and I have a normal relationship with my daughter. All of that is threatened whenever one enters a court room."

Meanwhile, Baldwin's attorney, Vicki Greene, said she filed a court order Friday "to determine how the tape got leaked and to determine whether actions should be taken again Kim Basinger, or her attorneys, or Harvey Levin (who runs TMZ.com) and anybody else associated with the leaking of the tape and the violation of the court orders to keep the proceedings closed."

Greene told TV's "The Insider" that "anyone involved in this case should want to protect Ireland, so whatever happened was either intentional, reckless or negligent."

The matter is set for a hearing June 5, Greene said.

Basinger's attorney, Neal Hersh, weighed in the family saga Friday on TMZ.com.

"I am concerned that Mr. Baldwin's recent statement, wherein he attempts to shift responsibility to Kim and her lawyers for his issues with Ireland, shows just how out of touch he is with the reality and gravity of the situation," Hersh said.

On the recording, Baldwin can be heard admonishing his 11-year-old daughter, Ireland, "You are a rude, thoughtless little pig."

"You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being," he says, apparently upset that she did not answer her phone for a planned call.

"The mother and her lawyer leaked this sealed material in violation of a court order," Baldwin's spokesperson said Thursday. "Although Alec acknowledges that he should have used different language in parenting his child, everyone who knows him privately knows what he has been put through for the past six years."

"The voice mail speaks for itself," Basinger's spokeswoman said.

Baldwin, 49, and Basinger, 53, were married in 1993. They have been involved in prolonged legal disputes over custody and other issues since she filed for divorce in 2001, which was granted in 2002. The couple's differences have been aired several times in public.

TMZ is a part of the AOL network of Internet properties. AOL is a unit of Time Warner, as is CNN.

I never said they were. My daddy came back from Vietnam with his head screwed on sideways when I was 5. He made everyones life hell.


Hardly unscathed. It's nice that you can pull shit out of your ass without really knowing the facts about someone.


I faced my issues just like this little girl will when she is older and can handle them.


Now deal with it and get over this 'victim' mentality you have going on.


Don't label me. You have no friggin' idea where I am in the path of life.


I am brutally honest with myself and will be with you and others.

I am tired of your abuse so I am hitting the ignore button.

goodbye have a nice life.

Anyone that says this an ok treatment of a child is utterly obsurd. "If you have a daughter you understand this is ok." Ok, youre fucking stupid.

There are only a handful of people that ANYONE should treat like this - much less a father treating his daughter.

I am tired of your abuse so I am hitting the ignore button.

goodbye have a nice life.
Mwhahaha, that's beautiful. I wasn't even being mean.:slap:

"They're involved in a bitter custody battle". For me, it ends right there with those words. This kid is being pulled from pillar to post. No wonder her behaviour is disgusting. Look at her role models. One of them needs to put the kid first and step back and allow the other fool to take the kid unless there is abuse involved. As it stands with the custody battle I view both as selfish and putting themselves ahead of the child's needs. Therefore at this point, neither sounds like a fit parent.

Some people come out of IRaq just fine to that doesn't mean the ones who do come back from war with PTSD are faking it or not "that sick"

Trauma effects people in different ways just because you came away from it unscathed does not mean other peoples brain patterns were changed from it.

and to let you know you may develope problems later in life and you may have problems now associated to it and not even know it.

I was fine all through high school and some college without any symptoms or problems but when I got pregnant it got triggered and I started showing signs of Trauma. My subconscious had tucked it way and something brought it upfront.

So you are not out of the woods for developeing any emotional problems.
Personally I consider you to be in a stage of Numbness which very common for truama survivors. I was very narcisistic too for a while saying cruel things to people all the time. Signs you show.

Just because your subcious has tucked it away doesn't mean something will trigger it at sometime in your life and I hope to god you are more passionate with yourself about this weakness than you are on others.

Wow, you fancy yourself an analyst. Perhaps we should call you Dr. warrior. You have been here for five fucking minutes. You know zero about any of us. Back the fuck off.

There, now you can put me on ignore too. Pretty soon, you will be posting to yourself and your girlfriend and that will be all.

fuck you sal. I will say what I see if you don't like it is too fucking back. I only see what people write and it says it all. I will stay where the fuck I want when I want you don't like it. Don't read my fucking post!!

What did I tell you? People follow their own rules here. You can't just make up rules for them, e.g. don't read my posts if you don't like them. They will read them, then they will tell you what they think of them, and you. That's what free speech is all about.

This thread is going downhill very very fast

This thread is going downhill very very fast

Nah, I can feel the love. :D

Anyone that says this an ok treatment of a child is utterly obsurd.

?!?!?!?

What is even more absurd is the fact that you think someone on this thread has offered an opinion like that.

fuck you sal. I will say what I see if you don't like it is too fucking back. I only see what people write and it says it all. I will stay where the fuck I want when I want you don't like it. Don't read my fucking post!!
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Wow, you fancy yourself an analyst. Perhaps we should call you Dr. warrior. You have been here for five fucking minutes. You know zero about any of us. Back the fuck off.

There, now you can put me on ignore too. Pretty soon, you will be posting to yourself and your girlfriend and that will be all.

Amen, sister. Preach it! :thumbs:

Tis a sad commentary on a user when they can get pissed at and/or piss off Sal.

/wave @ Sal :p

fuck you sal. I will say what I see if you don't like it is too fucking back. I only see what people write and it says it all. I will stay where the fuck I want when I want you don't like it. Don't read my fucking post!!
Wow.

fuck you sal. I will say what I see if you don't like it is too fucking back. I only see what people write and it says it all. I will stay where the fuck I want when I want you don't like it. Don't read my fucking post!!

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I fear it may be too late already.

Tis a sad commentary on a user when they can get pissed at and/or piss off Sal.

/wave @ Sal :p

Holy smokey, it's OldPhart...you're here so seldom I didn't recognize your waving palm...:eek:

/waves back @ OldPhart...

O M G guys with the pictures. Too funny!

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Anyone that says this an ok treatment of a child is utterly obsurd. "If you have a daughter you understand this is ok." Ok, youre fucking stupid.
If by any chance you're referring to my post I didn't say that.
I said his behavior was wrong, but the frustration and emotion is understandable.

Actually, I haven't heard anyone say this was alright.

Imp,
I don't see what was so bad about anything Warrior posted.
It sort of read like friendly advice. You come off as a little defensive, even paranoid.

the daughter needs a beating

Imp,
I don't see what was so bad about anything Warrior posted.
It sort of read like friendly advice. You come off as a little defensive, even paranoid.
Well, I did Brooks. I seen it as a false judgment of me and she tried to label me. She doesn't know a friggin' thing about me, what I've been thru, any help I've received or where I'm at in life, and she has no right to post something like that. Her hypothesis is way off the mark and I felt the urge to tell her.

Personally I consider you to be in a stage of Numbness which very common for truama survivors.

For example, wtf is that? I've been traumatized since I was 5. I'm near 40 now. Pretty damn sure I've gotten pass the 'numbness stage' years ago. wow.

On local radio talk show this morning they put the question to the on-air personalities. This was a decidedly conservative talk show and all of them generally dislike Alec Baldwin.

Any one of them who had a daughter, though they didn't like the language, understood exactly what he was feeling. Me too.

e is a frustrated, sad father who loves his daughter. The only way you can be that angry at someone is if you love them or hate them very much. If he hated her, he could just continue living his life seperately from her, but he's not doing that.


If by any chance you're referring to my post I didn't say that.
I said his behavior was wrong, but the frustration and emotion is understandable.

Actually, I haven't heard anyone say this was alright.

The only thing that you said in regards to his behavior being wrong was that anyone who had a daughter knew what he was going through but didnt like the language? Even taking the bad language out, the call was still horrible. You just dont treat a child like that - especially your own.

The only thing that you said in regards to his behavior being wrong was that anyone who had a daughter knew what he was going through but didnt like the language? Even taking the bad language out, the call was still horrible. You just dont treat a child like that - especially your own.I said anyone with a daughter knew exactly what he "was feeling". Beyond that I condoned absolutely nothing.
If you read it more carefully, it really wasn't so "f__king stupid."

no one is saying what he said to his daughter was acceptable but lets face anyone who has kids has said things they regret before out of anger. If you say you have not your lying because we are all humans and capable to snapping at your kids when the kids arn't really the problem.
He definitly needs anger therapy but as many people have stated on TV Kim had defied court orders over and over again in regards to visitations with the kid.
I rememeber I got very upset at my son when he kept asking me why I left him for another man. He was set up to ask that question by his step mother but my anger was directed at Alex because he actually believe that this was true but what my anger was wrong to be pointed at him.
I had Alex when I was 21 and all through high school and some college I had no signs of Post Truamatic Stress Disorder but when I got pregnant I started showing signs. After having him I also suffered from Post Partum Depression. I drank alcohol all the time, did not sleep right, could not bond with my son, had fits of rages and I was completely out of control. I did not know what was wrong with me. All I know is that I was becoming my mother and it scared me and I was afriad of abusing my son. He would do simple things at 2 such as making too much noise or normal 2 year old stuff and I would go into rages at him. So in his best interest I left. I met a German boyfriend and left his father and left for Germany. Thinking I could escape all my problems or that they would some how all go away but in Germany my behavior was even more out of control and thank god my son was not around me. I mean I would be shit drunk in the middle of a city of a million meeting up with guys I knew nothing about. I mean no one could have been more self destructive and irresponsible. For 10 years I went being undiagnosed and being crazy and causing all kinds of trouble. Until one day I woke up and discovered it wasn't the world that was messed up it was me. When I got back to the states I finally got diagnosed and started to get help.
I went out of my sons life for best intrest of him and then when I came back he was told I left him because I did not love him.. I left him for anothre man and all that crap.
You don't tell a little 6 year old boy that his mom does not love or want him.
Alec got set up big time. She was pushing his buttons and just waited to get his rage at her on tape so she could use it against him in court. She has been baiting him all this time and he finally lost it.
Not saying what he did was ok. IT is not but she is a poor excuse for mother too for turning that little girl against his father.
and when it is all over and that little grows up she will hate and dispise them both.

I said anyone with a daughter knew exactly what he "was feeling". Beyond that I condoned absolutely nothing.
If you read it more carefully, it really wasn't so "f__king stupid."

You make perfect sense Brooks. Don't let them get to you or twist things around. You never condoned his behavior nor is anyone who understand why he was upset.

He just misdirected his rage at his daughter. It was a mistake that I am sure he feels awful about and regrets.