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jerejerebinks
04-18-2007, 08:00 PM
The latest Rosie rant now comes in the form of comments she made in regards to the response by President Bush to the news of the recent Virgina Tech Massacre.

Instead of being supportive or attempting to attempt to become unified as a country for the mourning of these kids, teachers, and their familes - Rosie has decided to blast the Bush administration on it's handedling of the Katrina crisis.

It's no secret that I am in no way a fan of President Bush - but come on, Rosie. Enough is enough. You have had chance after chance to be a reasonable minded woman with a political view. You have taken your cheap shots and tried to hide your snideness behind the remnants of a once popular comedic career that is now very much dead.

It's time for you to leave the View or shut the hell up. Give these family and this country the respect they deserve.

Your thoughts?

Frogger
04-18-2007, 08:08 PM
I despise Rosie. I think Rosie is a hateful piece of excrement. Having said that, I don't think it is time for her to go. Just as I thought Don Imus should not have been fired for saying something outrageous I don't think Rosie should be fired for saying outrageous things.

I am a great believe in non-censorship, even when that allows idiots to say hurtful and stupid things.

dharmabum
04-18-2007, 08:10 PM
I don't get it.

Why should she "go" anywhere when people like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Weiner have infected our airwaves with hate speech for decades?

Why is Rosie such a prominent target when there are so many other who are so much worse?

I don't see how she is disrespecting the famililes at all by criticizing Bush. Personally I would have chosen to criticize him for lying us into Iraq and thus causing tragedies like happened Monday to be a daily occurance in Iraq.

She is on a show called "The View" where a group of women get together to share their views. That is all she is doing in my opinion. If someone doesn't like what she is saying, they don't have to watch.

warrior1972
04-18-2007, 08:14 PM
I despise Rosie. I think Rosie is a hateful piece of excrement. Having said that, I don't think it is time for her to go. Just as I thought Don Imus should not have been fired for saying something outrageous I don't think Rosie should be fired for saying outrageous things.

I am a great believe in non-censorship, even when that allows idiots to say hurtful and stupid things.

An Ann coulter is not white trash in discuise in sheeps clothing. I don't see you condemning Ann for viscious and tastless insults on people.

Rosie never said a promenant black basketball team was a bunch of nappy ho's.

BorgHunter
04-18-2007, 08:16 PM
I don't get it.

Why should she "go" anywhere when people like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Weiner have infected our airwaves with hate speech for decades?

Why is Rosie such a prominent target when there are so many other who are so much worse?

I don't see how she is disrespecting the famililes at all by criticizing Bush. Personally I would have chosen to criticize him for lying us into Iraq and thus causing tragedies like happened Monday to be a daily occurance in Iraq.

She is on a show called "The View" where a group of women get together to share their views. That is all she is doing in my opinion. If someone doesn't like what she is saying, they don't have to watch.
Agreed. Who cares? If you don't like her, don't listen to her.

warrior1972
04-18-2007, 08:17 PM
I totally support Rosie. I don't always agree with her the trade tower 7 is a bit far fetched but I watch the view every day just because she is on there and just because it gets the conservative republicans foaming at the mouth.

If people like Rosie goes..so does Bill "o'rilly, the guy who made fun of MJfox disability( i cannot remember his name) and Ann Coulter needs to have her books banned because they are full of hate and spins and inaccurate information of the poor and homeless.

Frogger
04-18-2007, 08:18 PM
Warrior,

You really are a dumbass. I support Ann Coulter's right to be obnoxious just as I support Rosie's right to be obnoxious. Hell, I even support your right to be obnoxious and heaven knows you are obnoxious.

warrior1972
04-18-2007, 08:18 PM
Agreed. Who cares? If you don't like her, don't listen to her.

agreed we do not have a right in this country to not be offended. If you don't like it don't watch it.

I wont watch fox but I don't call for it to be taken off the air because it spins to the right.

BorgHunter
04-18-2007, 08:19 PM
Warrior,

You really are a dumbass. I support Ann Coulter's right to be obnoxious just as I support Rosie's right to be obnoxious. Hell, I even support your right to be obnoxious and heaven knows you are obnoxious.
Agreed on all counts. Gee whiz! Today, Frogger, you and I are really seeing eye to eye. Can I be your new adopted grandson? :D

Frogger
04-18-2007, 08:20 PM
So far the only one who seems to be calling for censorship is our new liberal activist, Warrior. Anyone else in favor of taking away people's freedom of speech?

warrior1972
04-18-2007, 08:20 PM
Warrior,

You really are a dumbass. I support Ann Coulter's right to be obnoxious just as I support Rosie's right to be obnoxious. Hell, I even support your right to be obnoxious and heaven knows you are obnoxious.

I said condemn not support or not support. You condemn Rosie because you do not like what comes out of her mouth but do you despise Ann? Ann is just like Roise just Ann is right and Rosie is left.

I never said you didn't support eihers freedom of speech.

dumbass
:lolhit:

Frogger
04-18-2007, 08:21 PM
Borg,

I haven't changed, you've just seen the light.

Signed,

Grandpa

warrior1972
04-18-2007, 08:22 PM
So far the only one who seems to be calling for censorship is our new liberal activist, Warrior. Anyone else in favor of taking away people's freedom of speech?

Please provide proof that I said to censor anyone person.

I clearly said that if Rosie is to be fired the rest of them have to go. You have to make it fair.

BorgHunter
04-18-2007, 08:23 PM
I clearly said that if Rosie is to be fired the rest of them have to go. You have to make it fair.
No you don't. Whatever company owns whatever show to which we're referring, they can be as unfair as they damn well please. It's their show.

Frogger
04-18-2007, 08:23 PM
Borg,

I would be proud to have you as a grandson just as I would be proud to have Evakian or DarkFantasy as a grandchild.

I find the young posters here to be intelligent and well spoken. The fact that I don't always agree with them doesn't matter all that much. I don't always agree with my actual grand children either.

jerejerebinks
04-18-2007, 08:24 PM
I think I see the point in favor of letting her keep her job. She frustrates me very badly and I guess I overlooked freedom of speech in order to not have to hear her.

There is a lot worse out there than her though.

Frogger
04-18-2007, 08:25 PM
I didn't think Don Imus should have been fired but, having said that, I think both CBS and NBC were well within their rights to do so. They were the employers and they decided they no longer wanted him to represent him as is their right.

warrior1972
04-18-2007, 08:25 PM
So far the only one who seems to be calling for censorship is our new liberal activist, Warrior. Anyone else in favor of taking away people's freedom of speech?

I am an activist for the homeless and the poor but I am hardly a liberal. Nice try to put a lable on me but am for gun ownership, big business, agianst illegal immagration and allowing prayer in school as long as all religions get to practice oh yes and I do not like muslims so much the liberals don't like that about me.

So if you think I am the liberals love you are wrong. Liberals and me do not always see eye to eye but liberals do not call me names lke an 8 year old boy or use my personal information against me.

If I had a choice I would rather debate with a liberal. They are more respectful when disagreements.

Frogger
04-18-2007, 08:25 PM
I think I see the point in favor of letting her keep her job. She frustrates me very badly and I guess I overlooked freedom of speech in order to not have to hear her.

There is a lot worse out there than her though.

You don't have to hear her, Jere. Do like I do and just don't watch The View.

warrior1972
04-18-2007, 08:27 PM
I didn't think Don Imus should have been fired but, having said that, I think both CBS and NBC were well within their rights to do so. They were the employers and they decided they no longer wanted him to represent him as is their right.

Ok they did not want to let Imus go al sharpton and the other pitbills of the NCAAP threaten the advertizers of the the corperations. The Advertizers started pulling out then they decided to get rid of Imus.

Imus did not get pulled because of CBS or NBC fighting aginst racism.. it was done because they could no longer make money off of him due to Al sharpton and the NCAAP.

Napsterbater
04-18-2007, 08:28 PM
"Is it time"??

It's been time, for ten years.

Frogger
04-18-2007, 08:31 PM
Advertisers have the right to not advertise on a station just as I have the right to not purchase their products or to listen to the radio station.

Boycotts are a tried and true method of protest and there is nothing wrong with them. If advertisers decided to boycott CBS and NBC for any reason, be it economic or social conscience that is their right.

jerejerebinks
04-18-2007, 08:37 PM
You don't have to hear her, Jere. Do like I do and just don't watch The View.

That's just the thing, Frogger. I rarely ever watch the view - and sure havent watched it this week.

Yet - with her track record of saying outlandish things...she is all over the media. In fact, I heard about today's rant while listening to sports talk radio!

When Rosie interupts Jim Rome it's a sad day!

Foolsworth
04-18-2007, 08:45 PM
[QUOTE=jerejerebinks]The latest Rosie rant now comes in the form of comments she made in regards to the response by President Bush to the news of the recent Virgina Tech Massacre.

Instead of being supportive or attempting to attempt to become unified as a country for the mourning of these kids, teachers, and their familes - Rosie has decided to blast the Bush administration on it's handedling of the Katrina crisis.

It's no secret that I am in no way a fan of President Bush - but come on, Rosie. Enough is enough. You have had chance after chance to be a reasonable minded woman with a political view. You have taken your cheap shots and tried to hide your snideness behind the remnants of a once popular comedic career that is now very much dead.

It's time for you to leave the View or shut the hell up. Give these family and this country the respect they deserve.

I just learned yesterday,that She {Rosie} was fed extremely Liberal
Leftist Talking Points,by such sites as MoveOn.org and possibly
Media Matters,to throw salt on wounds and spark
Political Fire,in order to further the lefts Agenda to TOTALLY
discredit and poke slander at Republicans and in particular the
White House.
Don't forget she {Rosie} was slated to start a Left Wing Talk
Radio format,to combat the highly successfull Right Wing efforts.
I think that Air America's final curtains on it's Hyped and suspect small
success was exposed by sheer Bankruptcy and an unwilligness to
admit defeat.
Rosie ain't gonna change what she stands for.
She's a Loutish,belligerent schoolyard bully.
She Lives to be heard,at the top of her lungs.
She Lives to cause controversy and cry wolf.
She lives to brow beat any and alll who dare to challenge her POV.
I don't know where her Sociopathetic Illness grew out of.
She surely musta been hurt as a teen,by her tubby appearance.
That doesn't even come close to justifying her behavior.
She is disturbed and has a hair trigger temperment,befitting a
crazed street person.

Brooks
04-18-2007, 08:51 PM
Rosie should stay because the show's ratings are up.

But, just as Republicans are asked to distance themselves from Ann Coulter's comments everytime she makes them, Democrats should be quizzed about Rosie's opinions.

Overdose
04-18-2007, 08:54 PM
I support and love Rosie. She has many fans and I find what she has to say interesting, even if I don't always agree with her.

In my opinion, she brings up a lot of good points and questions. It is also a show called, "The View" and what is she doing? Sharing her views.

Go Rosie! Most men in America hate women with strong opinions. And they hate, more-so, women who are fat and ugly. If she was attractive people wouldn't hate her, they'd just go, "oh she's just a dumb person." But because she's fat, everyone hates her even more and always calls her fat. Whatever.

Frogger
04-18-2007, 08:56 PM
Of course you do, Overdose. Why am I not surprised?

You have a right to love Rosie and agree with everything she says just as I have the right to despise her and disagree with almost everything she says.

The one thing I think we agree on is, she should not be fired.

BorgHunter
04-18-2007, 08:57 PM
Go Rosie! Most men in America hate women with strong opinions. And they hate, more-so, women who are fat and ugly. If she was attractive people wouldn't hate her, they'd just go, "oh she's just a dumb person." But because she's fat, everyone hates her even more and always calls her fat. Whatever.
I think you're talking out of your ass here.

Overdose
04-18-2007, 09:00 PM
Posted on next page.

Overdose
04-18-2007, 09:00 PM
I think you're talking out of your ass here.
Cool?

Napsterbater
04-18-2007, 09:00 PM
Uncool.

Overdose
04-18-2007, 09:02 PM
Of course you do, Overdose. Why am I not surprised?

You have a right to love Rosie and agree with everything she says just as I have the right to despise her and disagree with almost everything she says.
Yes, I do. I love strong women. And I think they get un-fair reputations in the media and that people twist their words and pull them out of context, especially men.

PS: I never said I agreed with everything she says. But I do NOT think she has said anything offensive..

DrewM
04-18-2007, 09:02 PM
Rose is a sack of shit. But, nobody is forced to listen to her. Until the time she makes a racist remark she will be around.

Napsterbater
04-18-2007, 09:03 PM
Pfft. She'd just apologize, then she'd have another, better paying job, within the week. I'm surprised she hasn't done it already. Racism is the in thing this year!

Evakian
04-18-2007, 09:03 PM
I think you're talking out of your ass here.
I do think-you're righ' good chum! Jolly good. Baha. *sips tea*

Evakian
04-18-2007, 09:08 PM
Yes, I do. I love strong women. And I think they get un-fair reputations in the media and that people twist their words and pull them out of context, especially men.
Are you kidding? Men love dominatrices. Especially with handcuffs on.:rolleyes:

Foolsworth
04-18-2007, 09:31 PM
I support and love Rosie. She has many fans and I find what she has to say interesting, even if I don't always agree with her.

In my opinion, she brings up a lot of good points and questions. It is also a show called, "The View" and what is she doing? Sharing her views.

Go Rosie! Most men in America hate women with strong opinions. And they hate, more-so, women who are fat and ugly. If she was attractive people wouldn't hate her, they'd just go, "oh she's just a dumb person." But because she's fat, everyone hates her even more and always calls her fat. Whatever.

Very Few people comment on her Fat Mouth.That is a given.
I've yet to hear a major person of interest,except maybe Trump
say anything about her Tubbiness.
So,yer just a pathetic defender of a Fatty Lout Dyke,Sociopath
Flame thrower of words,comments and anything she feels the
least inclined to rant about.
Anyone who defends her obnoxious,Bullying ways is a Jerk and
a one-sided Partisan.
There's no way a fair-minded person would associate,even in a
Lifeboat,with the likes of such a tart-tongued,Liberal ballbuster.
They'd have to bail out,in order to save both their own face,as well sanity
on water.O'Donnell is even a worse shipwreck,on land.

DrewM
04-18-2007, 09:37 PM
And they hate, more-so, women who are fat and ugly. If she was attractive people wouldn't hate her, they'd just go, "oh she's just a dumb person." But because she's fat, everyone hates her even more and always calls her fat. Whatever.

Fat, dumb, loud mouthed and ugly. Not a great combination, no wonder so many people hate her. If you can't hate that then what can you hate?

es347fan
04-18-2007, 09:39 PM
If she's so disruptive to social order, why even give her the publicity of this thread? If you ignore her, eventually she'll go away.

dharmabum
04-18-2007, 09:40 PM
Fat, dumb, loud mouthed and ugly. Not a great combination, no wonder so many people hate her. If you can't hate that then what can you hate?

You forgot to mention *gasp* lesbian.
I think that has a lot to do with the hate directed at her by the right wing.

Overdose
04-18-2007, 09:53 PM
Fat, dumb, loud mouthed and ugly. Not a great combination, no wonder so many people hate her. If you can't hate that then what can you hate?
1. Why would I hate someone who is fat?
2. In my opinion she isn't dumb, so I don't consider that apart of who she is as a person.
3. Loud mouthed? I love loud people who aren't afraid to voice their opinion, even if it causes many people to hate them.
4. Ugly. Maybe. In her younger days she looked nice, but I admit she isn't the most attractive person ever. But that isn't any reason to hate someone, either. That's pretty superfical on your part.

You forgot to mention *gasp* lesbian.
I think that has a lot to do with the hate directed at her by the right wing.
I agree.

DrewM
04-18-2007, 09:57 PM
1. Why would I hate someone who is fat?
2. In my opinion she isn't dumb, so I don't consider that apart of who she is as a person.
3. Loud mouthed? I love loud people who aren't afraid to voice their opinion, even if it causes many people to hate them.
4. Ugly. Maybe. In her younger days she looked nice, but I admit she isn't the most attractive person ever. But that isn't any reason to hate someone, either. That's pretty superfical on your part.


I was joking around.

I don't like Rosie - you do, that's fine. You are allowed to like whoever you want, it's a free country.

Jester
04-18-2007, 09:58 PM
I personally don't really care if she's fired or not. I can tell you though that if I was her employer, her desk would have been cleared a long time ago.

Overdose
04-18-2007, 09:59 PM
I personally don't really care if she's fired or not. I can tell you though that if I was her employer, her desk would have been cleared a long time ago.
Why?

DrewM
04-18-2007, 10:00 PM
Why?

Because she's Fat, dumb, loud mouthed and ugly

Overdose
04-18-2007, 10:01 PM
Because she's Fat, dumb, loud mouthed and ugly
Hope you're still joking. :)

Napsterbater
04-18-2007, 10:04 PM
Fatasses shouldn't have television shows. It takes up more electricity to put a camera on a tubby than on a skinny person. A camera will also spontaneously turn away from someone with an overly fond appreciation for Krispy Kreme. So you have to pay the cameramen more to put up with it. It's just bad business, all around. Plus they had to pay for two first class tickets when she flew, not so much because she took up two seats, but because she stank up the plane with the ten gallon buckets of KFC she brought on board.

mikezila
04-18-2007, 10:05 PM
Hope you're still joking. :)
you have to admit, she has a face perfect for radio:@@:

TurdFerguson
04-18-2007, 10:06 PM
Fatasses shouldn't have television shows. It takes up more electricity to put a camera on a tubby than on a skinny person. A camera will also spontaneously turn away from someone with an overly fond appreciation for Krispy Kreme. So you have to pay the cameramen more to put up with it. It's just bad business, all around. Plus they had to pay for two first class tickets when she flew, not so much because she took up two seats, but because she stank up the plane with the ten gallon buckets of KFC she brought on board.
HaHa!! Now that's funny!!:lolhit:

Jester
04-18-2007, 10:06 PM
Why?Because of all the dumb, inflammatory things she says. Sure, she has the right to say whatever she likes, but she shouldn't expect me to pay her for it.

Brooks
04-18-2007, 10:06 PM
You forgot to mention *gasp* lesbian.As a man you should know that lesbianism is a plus.

Napsterbater
04-18-2007, 10:09 PM
Not when the only reason you're a lesbian is because men won't touch you.

Overdose
04-18-2007, 10:12 PM
Because of all the dumb, inflammatory things she says. Sure, she has the right to say whatever she likes, but she shouldn't expect me to pay her for it.
What has she said that is dumb or inflammatory?

Napsterbater
04-18-2007, 10:14 PM
She's a woman. That's code for, "Says dumb shit."

Travh20
04-18-2007, 10:23 PM
I agree with the guy that voted for public forced suicide, I think it was sparky in another thread.

Freethinker
04-18-2007, 10:58 PM
Your thoughts?

There are very few people allowed anywhere near a television camera who will call a spade a spade when it comes to the rightwing faction in Washington that is busily raiding the U.S. Treasury as we speak, or that will speak the plain truth to the sheep.

I am extremely grateful to have Rosie O'Donnell (who, if I could arrange it, I would wager a sizeable sum on possesing a higher I.Q. than the vast majority of whining simpleton twits screeching --""I just HATE that woman!! She's so mean! She says stuff that upsets me!!""......but I digress) for being at least ONE voice in the wilderness; for being the one person on a television talk program who is NOT a mindless goddamned zombie waving the flag and cheering for the status quo and shouting "Hurrah!" as the extreme conservative faction running this country turns day by day more thieving, more lying, more totalitarianist and more anti-populist.

I very much agree with her political stances and admire her intelligence and forthrightness, and I wish there were a thousand more like her in the Media willing to stand up and point out that the smirking, ignorant, toadying little Emperor and his co-conspirators have no clothes.

Overdose
04-18-2007, 11:11 PM
There are very few people allowed anywhere near a television camera who will call a spade a spade when it comes to the rightwing faction in Washington that is busily raiding the U.S. Treasury as we speak, or that will speak the plain truth to the sheep.

I am extremely grateful to have Rosie O'Donnell (who, if I could arrange it, I would wager a sizeable sum on possesing a higher I.Q. than the vast majority of whining simpleton twits screeching --""I just HATE that woman!! She's so mean! She says stuff that upsets me!!""......but I digress) for being at least ONE voice in the wilderness; for being the one person on a television talk program who is NOT a mindless goddamned zombie waving the flag and cheering for the status quo and shouting "Hurrah!" as the extreme conservative faction running this country turns day by day more thieving, more lying, more totalitarianist and more anti-populist.

I very much agree with her political stances and admire her intelligence and forthrightness, and I wish there were a thousand more like her in the Media willing to stand up and point out that the smirking, ignorant, toadying little Emperor and his co-conspirators have no clothes.
I agree with you 100%. She is very articulate when sharing her views and is a very informed person.

The ironic thing is that the "liberal" media hates and is trying to destory the reputation of a liberal mouthpiece. I wonder what the Republicans think about that.

jerejerebinks
04-19-2007, 08:14 AM
There are very few people allowed anywhere near a television camera who will call a spade a spade when it comes to the rightwing faction in Washington that is busily raiding the U.S. Treasury as we speak, or that will speak the plain truth to the sheep.

I am extremely grateful to have Rosie O'Donnell (who, if I could arrange it, I would wager a sizeable sum on possesing a higher I.Q. than the vast majority of whining simpleton twits screeching --""I just HATE that woman!! She's so mean! She says stuff that upsets me!!""......but I digress) for being at least ONE voice in the wilderness; for being the one person on a television talk program who is NOT a mindless goddamned zombie waving the flag and cheering for the status quo and shouting "Hurrah!" as the extreme conservative faction running this country turns day by day more thieving, more lying, more totalitarianist and more anti-populist.

I very much agree with her political stances and admire her intelligence and forthrightness, and I wish there were a thousand more like her in the Media willing to stand up and point out that the smirking, ignorant, toadying little Emperor and his co-conspirators have no clothes.

Do you not agree that there is a time and a place for discussing those posistions?

There are likely 30+ families (and many others around the country and the world) that are still mourning the deaths of these kids in Virgina...do you think they want their child's death to be inspiration for Rosie to go after President Bush on his handeling of a hurricane?

It is true that every person should have an opinion. I believe though that every opinion should have a time and place where it can be appropriately discussed.

Foolsworth
04-19-2007, 09:03 AM
If she's so disruptive to social order, why even give her the publicity of this thread? If you ignore her, eventually she'll go away.

Because with me it's a question of Fairness.
We have Fairness in Lending Laws.A Bank can't resort to Usury.
Standards & Practices,used to censore many things during the
prime time day.Even Johnny Carson had to be on the lookout for
an over-the-top Comic.
Why is this Rosie thing,allowed to basically Yell Fire ! every week on
public airwaves.?

rendova
04-19-2007, 09:09 AM
America hates fat women.
not saying it's right, just that that's the way it is.

This goes back to pioneer days when fat people were seen as lazy and not only that, taking food out of hungry kids' mouths. They were seen as lazy AND selfish.

You should hear my own sons and their friends when they see a fat woman at WMart. the jokes fly fast and furious.

They're the last group of people tht others can make fun of with impunity.

PS I've talked to my kids about trying to be more respectful towards others. bu when we see a fat 450 lb woman in a driving cart at WM with a basket full of donuts and Twinkies and diet pop, well, it's kinda hard NOT to laugh.

Call us mean.

Foolsworth
04-19-2007, 09:12 AM
I very much agree with her political stances and admire her intelligence and forthrightness, and I wish there were a thousand more like her in the Media willing to stand up and point out that the smirking, ignorant, toadying little Emperor and his co-conspirators have no clothes.[/QUOTE]

Intelligence,eh ?
That is absurd.Intelligent people don't exclusively resort to
vile snippets,hand fed like to an elephant,that seldom clarify
but rather stir emotions,instilling hatred and squelching debate,
for a nutter day and dollar.
Yer just a troublemaker,like her.

Freethinker
04-19-2007, 10:00 AM
Do you not agree that there is a time and a place for discussing those posistions?

Yes. A morning teevee show called "the View" seems the perfect time and place.

It is beyond belief to me seeing the goddamned mindless flagwaving zombies in this country whipped into such a paroxysm of seething hatred for an entertainer for telling the truth about the rightwing bastards in Washington who are destroying this country as they go about robbing the Treasury for their cronies in the defense and petroleum industries---IOW, those who make up the military/Industrial complex.

There are likely 30+ families (and many others around the country and the world) that are still mourning the deaths of these kids in Virgina...do you think they want their child's death to be inspiration for Rosie to go after President Bush on his handeling of a hurricane?

?!?!?!

I cannot imagine why you think Rosie --very appropriately-- criticizing the Smirker in Chief for his abysmal handling of Katrina diminishes the sorrrow of the parents of the slain students or should offend them in any way.

Frogger
04-19-2007, 10:04 AM
America doesn't necessarily hate fat women. America hates fat, nasty women or fat women who moan about their 'slow metabolism' while stoking up on Twinkies and chocolate covered cherries.

Some famous fat women Americans like(d).

Nell Carter
Totie Fields
Aretha Franklin
Hattie McDaniels
Beverly Sills
Queen Latifa

The one thing the women on the above list had going for them was that they were nice. Rosie O'Donnel is not nice. She would be disliked even if she was model thin.

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 10:22 AM
Yes. A morning teevee show called "the View" seems the perfect time and place.

It is beyond belief to me seeing the goddamned mindless flagwaving zombies in this country whipped into such a paroxysm of seething hatred for an entertainer for telling the truth about the rightwing bastards in Washington who are destroying this country as they go about robbing the Treasury for their cronies in the defense and petroleum industries---IOW, those who make up the military/Industrial complex.



?!?!?!

I cannot imagine why you think Rosie --very appropriately-- criticizing the Smirker in Chief for his abysmal handling of Katrina diminishes the sorrrow of the parents of the slain students or should offend them in any way.


It is an attempt to get her left wing agenda off the air. You see they cannot sensor her because of her political view but ahh they try to get her fired with her other statements saying they are outrages and insulting and insensitive so they can get her off the air.

It wont work. Barbara has already made it clear she is keeping Rosie around.

The same people who want Rosie off the air for abuse of the airwaves are the same people laughing and giggling when Ann Caulter calls gays the F word.

Overdose
04-19-2007, 10:23 AM
Some famous fat women Americans like(d).

Nell Carter
Totie Fields
Aretha Franklin
Hattie McDaniels
Beverly Sills
Queen Latifa
And if any of them had become as political as Rosie O'Donnell, they would be hated.

The one thing the women on the above list had going for them was that they were nice. Rosie O'Donnel is not nice. She would be disliked even if she was model thin.
Before Rosie O'Donnell started talking about politics her name in the media was, "The Queen of Nice" and she won an Emmy award for every year her personl talk show was on the air. The reason they gave her that title is because of how nice she was to her guests and how much charity work she has done for children.

But once she started getting political, her popularity decreased. This is because Americans love women, only if they keep their mouth shut.

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 10:25 AM
America doesn't necessarily hate fat women. America hates fat, nasty women or fat women who moan about their 'slow metabolism' while stoking up on Twinkies and chocolate covered cherries.

Some famous fat women Americans like(d).

Nell Carter
Totie Fields
Aretha Franklin
Hattie McDaniels
Beverly Sills
Queen Latifa

The one thing the women on the above list had going for them was that they were nice. Rosie O'Donnel is not nice. She would be disliked even if she was model thin.

Rosie doesnt eat sweets. She is a steak and potatos girl. Also Rosie has PTSD and depression. She is fat because she is depressed not lazy.

You don't like Rosie because she is either gay, fat, or liberal.

Makes her an easy target becaue she is a strong woman who speaks her mind. No one can contol her and that makes you mad.

I love Rosie. I visit her blog every day and I watch the view every day to support her.

Frogger
04-19-2007, 10:25 AM
Thank you for proving my point, Overdose. I said Rosie wasn't hated for being fat but for being nasty and you just reinforced what I said.

Thanks again.

Travh20
04-19-2007, 10:25 AM
whatever happened to the day when you could just not like someone because their personality and mannerisms disgust you? Knowing Rosie is a lefty kook doesnt make me think any less of her because I already thought about as low of her as a person can think of someone they dont personally know.

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 10:43 AM
And if any of them had become as political as Rosie O'Donnell, they would be hated.


Before Rosie O'Donnell started talking about politics her name in the media was, "The Queen of Nice" and she won an Emmy award for every year her personl talk show was on the air. The reason they gave her that title is because of how nice she was to her guests and how much charity work she has done for children.

But once she started getting political, her popularity decreased. This is because Americans love women, only if they keep their mouth shut.

I absolutely agree. Rosie got political because she had to. She was able to marry her wife but many other gays are banned from doing so. I think this is where she got into the politics game.

I got into the politics game in 9/11 and wondered why someone hated us so much to fly a plane into the WTC. Not that I am giving them an excuse but when I found out thier reasoning was because Americans were building miliary bases on thier holy land I began to see more than one side of this issue.
Again that is no excuse to fly planes into buildings but the extremist are not mad for no reason at all and no one was listening to them.

I learned alot from message boards and CNN and other news channels and found out what my own stances were on certian subjects. It is really sad because many poor people think politics is boring. They think politics and think of an old white guy talking about road taxes. I think the wealthy like to keep the poor ignorance and on political if all the poor people voted American would have completely different rules.

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 10:45 AM
Thank you for proving my point, Overdose. I said Rosie wasn't hated for being fat but for being nasty and you just reinforced what I said.

Thanks again.

Please how is Rosie nasty? Examples please of something that was not taken out of context? LOL

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 10:50 AM
whatever happened to the day when you could just not like someone because their personality and mannerisms disgust you? Knowing Rosie is a lefty kook doesnt make me think any less of her because I already thought about as low of her as a person can think of someone they dont personally know.

You don't know shit about Rosie because all you see is the clips taking out of context on Faux news.

go to here blog, watch the view in it entire and you will see she is not what the media claims she is.

Rosie helps foster kids and is a caring and giving woman who works everyday dispite her PTSD.

I admire her for speaking up against the injustice in this country.

I do not always agree with Rosie but Rosie does not pander to the public. She does not try to be something she is not to all people. Like Oprah.. I like Oprah and all but she tries to be perfect all the time. She never shows her personal flaws she has people to tell her what to say, how to dress and how to act. No one knows the true oprah? Everyone knows the true Rosie.. whether you like her or not she is honest. Honest about who she is and what she is about.

dharmabum
04-19-2007, 11:24 AM
I love how certain people defend Ann Coulter but rail uselessly against Rosie.

What Hypocrites!

Foolsworth
04-19-2007, 11:26 AM
It is an attempt to get her left wing agenda off the air. You see they cannot sensor her because of her political view but ahh they try to get her fired with her other statements saying they are outrages and insulting and insensitive so they can get her off the air.

It wont work. Barbara has already made it clear she is keeping Rosie around.

The same people who want Rosie off the air for abuse of the airwaves are the same people laughing and giggling when Ann Caulter calls gays the F word.

What that Fatty Puss Loudmouth does is not Free Speech or even
mere commenting.She purposedly SLANDERS those she highly
disagree with.What gives her the right to Spread Lies about Our
President or Vice President.There was a time,that could have
been interpreted as Seditious.The Act of Instilling rhetoric meant to
inflame and encourage Anarchy.
A Lie is a false statement DELIBERATED being presented as true.
Bush can't CREATE his Own Intel.If he got skewed intelligence from
the CIA which caused him to over react about WMD and the impending
threat,then so did Clinton in '98 and ALL Senators who voiced the
exact same sentiments as Bush,prior Iraqi Freedom.
What Bush said about Iraq and Saddam and his WMD was
shared by all Pols and senators since '98.

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 11:40 AM
She is only lying if she knows it is not the truth. Rosie actually believe that Bush and Cheney are criminals and they do look like criminals. They lied about the WMD they said there is going to be a surge even though the American people are against it. He does not do what the people want Bush does what he wants. Secret e-mail accounts, strange firing of 8 atternonies? It is only a false statement if she believe that it is false. Rosie really believes that Bush and gang are criminals who are getting way with criminal activities. I for one agree with her.
You cannot get her for slander or anything else because she has not made anything up. She just points out over and over again the facts...which are millions of missing e-mails, no WMD, no link for saddam and al queda.

You can't touch her. Now if she said Bush was actually a cross dresser and worshipped satan something that she knows is not true you could get her for slander if her words alone destroyed him economically and emtoinally and socially.

lifesabeach72
04-19-2007, 11:41 AM
All I can say about this is if you dont like her than dont watch the view. Personally I dont watch the view because the couple of times I did sit down and actually watch, before Rosie was on, it was like a bitch fest?? They didnt really talk about anything substancial, that I could see, and frankly I was bored and Im a woman. Hey if thats what you like go for it its just not something I think is quality television.

Travh20
04-19-2007, 12:28 PM
You don't know shit about Rosie because all you see is the clips taking out of context on Faux news.

go to here blog, watch the view in it entire and you will see she is not what the media claims she is.

Rosie helps foster kids and is a caring and giving woman who works everyday dispite her PTSD.

I admire her for speaking up against the injustice in this country.

I do not always agree with Rosie but Rosie does not pander to the public. She does not try to be something she is not to all people. Like Oprah.. I like Oprah and all but she tries to be perfect all the time. She never shows her personal flaws she has people to tell her what to say, how to dress and how to act. No one knows the true oprah? Everyone knows the true Rosie.. whether you like her or not she is honest. Honest about who she is and what she is about.

so I am not allowed to dislike someone you agreee with? STFU If I dont like her I dont like her, that's all. If I dont know shit abouther its because I dont want to know shit about her. I have never once said anything about her personel political views because I dont care what she thinks. If you dont agree with the reasons I dont like her I dont really care. I dont watch the view because I dont like it. Stop trying to lure me into some debate about the merits of rosie oddonell because she is nothing more then some hack on TV like all the rest.

ninigoat
04-19-2007, 12:36 PM
I don't think she should be fired, but I don't like her. I find her loud and incredibly rude. It has nothing to do with her politics, looks or life style.

jerejerebinks
04-19-2007, 01:04 PM
I absolutely agree. Rosie got political because she had to. She was able to marry her wife but many other gays are banned from doing so. I think this is where she got into the politics game.

Agreed. She has every right to feel the way she does concerning rights for homosexuals and more importantly their right to marriage.

When she became one of the faces of gay marriage - it was at a time when it was the hot button issue in the country. A very appropriate time to discuss such matters.

Deciding to bash Pres. Bush on Katrina while America's attention should be on the victims of this massacre in Virgina - is uncalled for.
[/QUOTE]


I love how certain people defend Ann Coulter but rail uselessly against Rosie.

What Hypocrites!

Who has ever defended Ann Coulter? She is the conserative answer to Rosie. Both are nutjobs and are a far cry from what logical thinking people from those two sides are all about.

All I can say about this is if you dont like her than dont watch the view.

That's just the thing, Beach. You dont even have to watch The View to know her views. Being who she is, and saying what she does - she is all over the media. As I stated before - I first heard of her most recent comments while listening to a sports talk radio program.

geepers
04-19-2007, 01:29 PM
I liked her in A League of Their Own and Sleepless in Seattle, but thats about it.

jerejerebinks
04-19-2007, 01:32 PM
I liked her in A League of Their Own and Sleepless in Seattle, but thats about it.
:rolleyes: We both know that has nothing to do with this thread.

Youre pic is still hot though. :thumbs:

Frogger
04-19-2007, 01:44 PM
You don't like Rosie because she is either gay, fat, or liberal.

Once again you prove why you are a dumbass. I said her weight has nothing to do with it. I never mentioned her sexual preference. I said I didn't like her because I consider her nasty. I even listed other fat women who are generally more liked by the American public to show that it is not her weight that causes her to be disliiked.

What is your response? The crap above in which once again you totally ignore what has been previously posted and go off on a maniacal rant.

You are truely a troll and a dumbass.

rendova
04-19-2007, 01:50 PM
Rosie doesnt eat sweets. She is a steak and potatos girl. Also Rosie has PTSD and depression. She is fat because she is depressed not lazy.



HAH.



Frogger's right. Kate Smith was a very nice person.

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 01:52 PM
so I am not allowed to dislike someone you agreee with? STFU If I dont like her I dont like her, that's all. If I dont know shit abouther its because I dont want to know shit about her. I have never once said anything about her personel political views because I dont care what she thinks. If you dont agree with the reasons I dont like her I dont really care. I dont watch the view because I dont like it. Stop trying to lure me into some debate about the merits of rosie oddonell because she is nothing more then some hack on TV like all the rest.

How can you dislike someone when you don't know about that person. I think that is pretty judgemental. I mean honestly the only things you have heard about her are what is on the news. You never took the time to really get to know her yet you hate her and despise her?
How can you hate and dispise someone you do not know?

Frogger
04-19-2007, 01:57 PM
That's kind of funny from someone who calls Republicans, Repugs. All you know about Republicans is what you hear on the news yet you have decided they are repugnant.

Not only a troll and a dumbass but a hypocrite as well. You've got all the bases covered, Warrior.

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 01:59 PM
Once again you prove why you are a dumbass. I said her weight has nothing to do with it. I never mentioned her sexual preference. I said I didn't like her because I consider her nasty. I even listed other fat women who are generally more liked by the American public to show that it is not her weight that causes her to be disliiked.

What is your response? The crap above in which once again you totally ignore what has been previously posted and go off on a maniacal rant.

You are truely a troll and a dumbass.

Is that the only things that can come out of you mouth.. Troll and dumbass? seriously you never give a real debate. What is your purpose here? You do not bring anything intellectual to the table.

What exactly is about her that makes her nasty? I have asked this before and you conviently skirt the issue and many other question I ask of you.

She is nasty to you because she is a homosexual or because she is a woman who speaks her mind or because her views are liberal!

Please tell me why you think she is nasty? that can mean anything.

Personally I think Ann Coulter is nasty. I love debating with republicans about things I learn alot about thier point of view and perspective but Ann Coulters books are so emotionally nasty, verbally abusive and full of pure hate for liberals I can't read the garbage. I mean her points are completely lost in the spite and hate she spews.

She is probably your hero since you have to stoop to her level and constantly call me a dumbass because you can't win a debate with me with logic you have resort to name calling and verbal and emotional abuse!!

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 02:04 PM
That's kind of funny from someone who calls Republicans, Repugs. All you know about Republicans is what you hear on the news yet you have decided they are repugnant.

Not only a troll and a dumbass but a hypocrite as well. You've got all the bases covered, Warrior.

As I have stated before and you are wonderful at twisting my points of view and only posting part of what I say and not all of it.

I have stated before that I say repug or libs because I do not feel like spelling out the whole word. Since that post I have always posted Republican as repub!! but of course you do not post this you only post part of my information and take my concepts out of contexts.

Your charactor assination will not work. People here are no lemmings and they certianly aren't going to follow you off the clifts of insanity.

Oh yes I am such a hypocrite...I have been on more repub message boards than you ever have been. I do not get my sources just from the new but from the horses mouth.

I mean you prove me right because no lib on this board has called me a dumbass or otherwise verbally abused and harrassed me and guess from what party does? A repub!! ROFLMAO I mean I do not have to point out your parties flaws you do it everyday on a constant basis.

You lose credibility with every post you make. I don't know if I should laugh or cry in pity for you.

Frogger
04-19-2007, 02:06 PM
You wonder why I call you a troll and a dumbass. Here is the main reason.

I have posted again and again that I don't dislike Rosie because of her weight or her sexual preference and you continue to post crap like the following.


She is nasty to you because she is a homosexual or because she is a woman who speaks her mind or because her views are liberal!

You either totally ignore what other people post or you are too damned stupid to comprehend it.

I don't like Rosie O'Donnel because of the sneaky, underhanded way she treated Tom Selleck. I don't like Rosie O'Donnel because of the way she treats other members of the view, especially if they don't agree with her views. I don't like Rosie because she uses every occurence as a vehicle to attack and insult President Bush. None of my reasons for not liking Rosie O'Donnel have anything to do with her weight or her lesbianism.

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 02:08 PM
HAH.



Frogger's right. Kate Smith was a very nice person.


HAH oh really and your a pyschologist now and you know the difference between someone who has depression and someone who is lazy?

Please tell me how you know the difference between the two?

Lack of education brings you to the phrase "HAH"

Frogger
04-19-2007, 02:12 PM
[Quopte=Warrior1972]
I have stated before that I say repug or libs because I do not feel like spelling out the whole word. [/Quote]

I call bullshit. The shortened form of Republican would be Repub, not Repug. You also refer to FOX News as Faux News. You can say you are not a liberal all you want but your own posts give the lie to that.

Frogger
04-19-2007, 02:14 PM
Rendova says Kate Smith was a nice person and you go off on some rant about her not being a psychologist and not knowing the difference between depression and being lazy. You then call her uneducated because she used the phrase, Hah.

Yep, dumbass is the only conclusion possible.

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 02:16 PM
You wonder why I call you a troll and a dumbass. Here is the main reason.

I have posted again and again that I don't dislike Rosie because of her weight or her sexual preference and you continue to post crap like the following.



You either totally ignore what other people post or you are too damned stupid to comprehend it.

I don't like Rosie O'Donnel because of the sneaky, underhanded way she treated Tom Selleck. I don't like Rosie O'Donnel because of the way she treats other members of the view, especially if they don't agree with her views. I don't like Rosie because she uses every occurence as a vehicle to attack and insult President Bush. None of my reasons for not liking Rosie O'Donnel have anything to do with her weight or her lesbianism.

Liberal ways that she treated Tom Selleck?
If members of the view have a problem of how she treats them Rosie would have been removed by Barbra. NO one on the view group has complianed about Rosie. They are there to debate and disagree. I see Rosie acting no different than the other two. I do see Elizabeth as weaker than the others because she is so young amoung all the more mature ladies. As she is a republican she looks niave because of her age. However Elizabeth has state very often on the view that even if Rosie and her have opposing political views they are still friends.
When has Rosie personally attacked anyone woman on the view for opposing her view. Rosie has never done anything agressive to any of those girls for disagreeing with her. Stop trying to make her out to be a monster she is not.
And Bill O rilly doesn't use his stands to publically attack the left and Polosie? They all do it not just Rosie. Bill O'Rilly, Shawn hannity, Dr Laura, and Rush Limbagh all take thier center stage to attack anything libral!!
Why is Rosie being single out?
What you want is for not powerful LIberal to be able to speak on the airwave so only the public gets the right wing view of things.
You are trying to assisinate Rosies character so you can censor her because she is a liberal.

Frogger
04-19-2007, 02:20 PM
Why is Rosie being single out?

Because the thread is about Rosie, Dumbass. If you want to start a thread about Rush Limbaugh, or Bill O'Reilly go right ahead.

You are trying to assisinate Rosies character so you can censor her because she is a liberal.

I posted that she should not be silenced, Dumbass. I said that even though I don't like her she should not be fired. How does that mean I want to censor her?

You are without a doubt the dumbest poster I have ever come across.

BorgHunter
04-19-2007, 02:25 PM
Liberal ways that she treated Tom Selleck?
If members of the view have a problem of how she treats them Rosie would have been removed by Barbra. NO one on the view group has complianed about Rosie. They are there to debate and disagree. I see Rosie acting no different than the other two. I do see Elizabeth as weaker than the others because she is so young amoung all the more mature ladies. As she is a republican she looks niave because of her age. However Elizabeth has state very often on the view that even if Rosie and her have opposing political views they are still friends.
When has Rosie personally attacked anyone woman on the view for opposing her view. Rosie has never done anything agressive to any of those girls for disagreeing with her. Stop trying to make her out to be a monster she is not.
And Bill O rilly doesn't use his stands to publically attack the left and Polosie? They all do it not just Rosie. Bill O'Rilly, Shawn hannity, Dr Laura, and Rush Limbagh all take thier center stage to attack anything libral!!
Why is Rosie being single out?
What you want is for not powerful LIberal to be able to speak on the airwave so only the public gets the right wing view of things.
You are trying to assisinate Rosies character so you can censor her because she is a liberal.
These are strong claims you are making against Frogger. I think you're jumping the gun and judging someone before you know him at all, though. Frogger's been around for a while and he is not as you describe him.

Ever since you came here you seem to have had a little bit of difficulty seeing people as, well, people, and not pure ideologues. You accuse Frogger of being some far-right nutcase, bringing in Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and so on for apparently no reason. Just because he doesn't like Rosie does not make him the extremist you paint him as. And I think he has every right to get pissed at you and start lobbing insults, because you have not exactly made an attempt to be polite here.

That said, someone needs to be the bigger person and hold out an olive branch. All this yelling and arguing and accusing and name calling is getting irritating.

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 02:26 PM
[Quopte=Warrior1972]
I have stated before that I say repug or libs because I do not feel like spelling out the whole word.

I call bullshit. The shortened form of Republican would be Repub, not Repug. You also refer to FOX News as Faux News. You can say you are not a liberal all you want but your own posts give the lie to that.[/QUOTE]

Yes I do say Faux news because the news is not suppose to be slanted to the right or left and I have watche fox news on several occassions and I hear disturbing things about liberals all the time there. Bill O and shawn hannity I mean only repubs watch that show. No liberal or Independent would ever flip to that channel to get a fair and balanced veiw of the new. Even in the TV guide is is labeled as left.

I call it faux because they labled foley the Republican high offical molesting little boys as a Democrat so they wouldn't have to accept thier own party kept this sicko around after multiple complaints about him.

Independents call Fox Faux too...not just libs.
Just because I do not like Repubs does not mean I am automatically a lib. I there are other politcal parties out there.

How can I be a Lib if I am for gun ownership, for big business, for prayer (all prayer) in school, against illegal immigration intolerance of Muslims and for the war on Terror.
I do not agree on how we got there and I feel that Iraqis are being used but now that we are there I think if we withdrawl the terrorist will only gain popularity and boldness. I think it is a bad idea to leave. I am for sending not just a surge but like 40,000 troops in and kicking thier ass.

So please tell me if I am a true lib how can I have any of these views?

Frogger
04-19-2007, 02:28 PM
Okay, Borg, I like you so I will stop calling her a Dumbass as soon as she stops acting like one. If she continues to misrepresent what I have posted I will continue to call her a Dumbass. Can't be fairer than that.

Frogger
04-19-2007, 02:31 PM
Yes I do say Faux news because the news is not suppose to be slanted to the right or left and I have watche fox news on several occassions and I hear disturbing things about liberals all the time there. Bill O and shawn hannity I mean only repubs watch that show. No liberal or Independent would ever flip to that channel to get a fair and balanced veiw of the new. Even in the TV guide is is labeled as left.

Would you please repost this in English.

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 02:34 PM
These are strong claims you are making against Frogger. I think you're jumping the gun and judging someone before you know him at all, though. Frogger's been around for a while and he is not as you describe him.

Ever since you came here you seem to have had a little bit of difficulty seeing people as, well, people, and not pure ideologues. You accuse Frogger of being some far-right nutcase, bringing in Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and so on for apparently no reason. Just because he doesn't like Rosie does not make him the extremist you paint him as. And I think he has every right to get pissed at you and start lobbing insults, because you have not exactly made an attempt to be polite here.

That said, someone needs to be the bigger person and hold out an olive branch. All this yelling and arguing and accusing and name calling is getting irritating.

So you think that verbally abusing people by calling them dumbass and idiot all the time is credibility to his charactor LOL.

I never called frogger any names until he called me a gorilla and called him a suprmist christian. Which is accurate since he thinks the 10 commandment should be the only religious documant to be displayed in the court house.

He insults me with every post calling me a dumbass and a troll and I am not suppose to retalate? I am suppose to just let that slide. I don't think so.

Shawn Hannity and Rush Lambagh have everything to do with discussion they use the airwaves constanty to discredit and demean the left. Yet only Rosie gets flamed for being anti right. I mean seriously there is serious hypocracy there.

Why are you always defending Froggers behavior and only on my ass? He is not a victim here. I only dish out what people give.

If he would stop harassing me and verbally abusing me I wouldn't retalitate.

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 02:36 PM
Would you please repost this in English.


yes yes I put left instead of right. You understood what I mean stop trolling me. I am tired of your witch hunt on me.

Frogger
04-19-2007, 02:37 PM
I never called frogger any names until he called me a gorilla and called him a suprmist christian. Which is accurate since he thinks the 10 commandment should be the only religious documant to be displayed in the court house.

I never said either of these things. I never called you a gorilla and I never said the Ten Commandments should be the only thing posted in a court house.

You make up facts to suit your purpose and then you wonder why I call you a troll and a dumbass.

warrior1972
04-19-2007, 02:39 PM
I never said either of these things. I never called you a gorilla and I never said the Ten Commandments should be the only thing posted in a court house.

You make up facts to suit your purpose and then you wonder why I call you a troll and a dumbass.

Oh so you agee that the Wiccan creed "do what you will but harm none" should be posted by the ten commandments?

and yes you did call me a gorilla.. I can go get the post if you want!

now you are just being a flat out lair.