This got eclipsed by the O-so-important Imus story. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003663395_bridge12.html?syndication=rss) Looks like that
surge is really working and Baghdad is much more secure, just like McCain says. </sarcasm>


BAGHDAD — A suicide truck bomb exploded on a major bridge in Baghdad
early today, collapsing the steel structure and sending cars
toppling into the Tigris River below, police and witnesses said.

At least 10 people were killed and 26 injured, according to hospital
officials. That toll was expected to rise.

Police were trying to rescue as many as 20 people whose cars fell
into the waters below.

Hours after the blast, waves lapped up against twisted girders
sinking into the water as police patrol boats searched for survivors.

The Tigris River cuts Baghdad in half, and the al-Sarafiya bridge
connected two northern Baghdad neighborhoods: Azamiyah, a mostly
Sunni enclave, and Bab al-Muazam, a mixed area.

Police said the attack was by a suicide truck bomber, but Associated
Press Television News footage showed the bridge broken apart in two
places, perhaps the result of two blasts.

surge is really working and Baghdad is much more secure, just like McCain says.
Therefore, every structure that is still standing demonstrates that the surge is working?

Please Drama, please.

Therefore, every structure that is still standing demonstrates that the surge is working?


Give me a break.

Is that the best you can do?

That just shows once again that even a superpower is unable to do anything alone.

Give me a break.
Is that the best you can do?It's a logical response to your conclusion that the destruction of this bridge indicates that the surge has failed.

Both points are stupid but the difference is I don't actually believe mine.

It's a logical response to your conclusion that the destruction of this bridge indicates that the surge has failed.

No. Wrong. It is not logical. There is nothing remotely logical about it.

It is just another of your exaggerations, which only makes your sig all the more ironic.

For Christ's sake, I shouldn't even have to mention the fact that a bomber blew herself up in the IRAQI FUCKING PARLIMENT last week either! Thats like someone bombing Congress, but I am sure you will fail to grasp the importance of that either.

Do you think those are signs that the escalation in Iraq is "working"?

Do you think we should just "stay the course" and give it more time?

Just another few months, years, decades and eventually escalating the violence will "work" eh?

Only an idiot believes that Brooks. Are you an idiot?


Both points are stupid but the difference is I don't actually believe mine.

Wrong again. Yours is the only truly stupid "point".

Bill Bradley said it very well on Real Time this week, (I am paraphrasing from memory):

"It is crazy to think that we can force three provinces of the former Ottoman Empire to stay together in a "nation" that only ever really existed in the deluded imagination of Winston Churchill"

I say Joe Biden is completely correct. The only real, long term solution is to Balkanize Iraq.

Originally Posted by Brooks
It's a logical response to your conclusion that the destruction of this bridge indicates that the surge has failed.

There is nothing remotely logical about it........For Christ's sake, I shouldn't even have to mention the fact that a bomber blew herself up in the IRAQI FUCKING PARLIMENT last week either! Thats like someone bombing Congress, but I am sure you will fail to grasp the importance of that either.

I believe he is being willfully ignorant on this one, Dharma.....he will obviously do anything to obfuscate and deny the point being made.

I cannot see how anyone could fail to grasp the significance of --taken all together--- the multitude of bombings and attacks that are still taking place over there .......and how all those actions collectively illustrate that the surge is not working the way they thought it would.