watch video:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,264782,00.html#

If the kids behave, there's no reason for them to be left at home. Even little kids benefit from social interaction away from their familiar environments, BUT, problems come because parents of kids who act like baboons seem oblivious to their little demons' antics.

Then it's up to other patrons or the management to kick the little hellions out until they learn better manners.

Depends on the age of the kids. Twelve and thirteen year old girls babysit for other people's children so I feel they can be left alone for awhile. Younger than that, no.

Pqrents should not allow their children to misbehave when dining out. If the child cannot behave the parents should pay their bill and leave the restaurant. No parents have the right to allow their children to disrupt other paying customers.

My parents took me out, even when I was just a tiny little tot. If I acted up or made a scene, my dad would just sit me in the back seat of the car, and I'd have to wait there until the meal was over. Taught me good manners pretty quick.

Should parents leave children at home when dining out?

No. Children need to learn how to behave in public so that they may be a part of all aspects of society. They learn manners and rules best while experiencing different social settings and interactions.

The question should be: Should all parents be allowed to take their children out in public. The answer to that would be a resounding no. Parents who have no social skills are best left at home and their wee squalling brats with them.

P.S. your link is to a woman who killed her child in a police chase. She is a whole different kind of parent if one could label her as a parent.

I'm not sure the "experience" of a public restaurant is something children can't live without, and what the hell is wrong with a well-trusted babysitter (grandma)?

Children can also learn that they are not automatically invited to everything their parents attend. Taking them to lectures and concerts is a lot like failing to turn off your phone in such places, or lighting a big cigar.

Children have to be allowed to be children, and they don't want to go to adult things anyway. Mine were always delighted to hear mom and dad were going out for the evening, since grandma always brought ice cream and was far less persnickety about bedtimes.

I'm not sure the "experience" of a public restaurant is something children can't live without, and what the hell is wrong with a well-trusted babysitter (grandma)?

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Not all of us have well-trusted babysitters to leave our kids with. It takes alot to trust someone enough to leave your kids with *unless family of course I guess*. I see no harm in children learning proper conduct in public even in restaurant settings. I have not left anyone in charge of my kid, for years, except his dad on occasion.

And Sal's 100% correct. The lady in this first post should not be considered a mother. No mother would risk her childs life let alone take it from them in their neglect. That's a piss poor mom and human being.:mad:

Not all of us have well-trusted babysitters to leave our kids with. It takes alot to trust someone enough to leave your kids with *unless family of course I guess*. I see no harm in children learning proper conduct in public even in restaurant settings. I have not left anyone in charge of my kid, for years, except his dad on occasion.

And Sal's 100% correct. The lady in this first post should not be considered a mother. No mother would risk her childs life let alone take it from them in their neglect. That's a piss poor mom and human being.:mad:
Of course "Sal" is right on that, but the "mother" there is a distraction. The question pertains to normal families.

That there are no grandparents is a pity. Of course sometimes they die or for economic reasons they live elsewhere, but I think children lose a lot not having grandparents, and so do the grandparents. You are right--without a trusted family member, I do not think I would ever have left them alone.

I raised two perfectly perfect daughters, who never misbehaved in public--who in fact got positive pleasure out of being noticed as so well behaved. That is what it often is with girls. Still, most of the time they had their own agendas and didn't want to tag along with mom and dad. (We had a tendency to go to public lectures and recitals and stuff like that. Now they do too, but not back then).

I see parents trying to control unruly kids, even using physical discipline against them in public, and it is all I can do to tell them to work these things out before bringing them out.

more realistically people should tell the parents to do their responsibility and teach their kids some manners

Of course "Sal" is right on that, but the "mother" there is a distraction. The question pertains to normal families.

That there are no grandparents is a pity. Of course sometimes they die or for economic reasons they live elsewhere, but I think children lose a lot not having grandparents, and so do the grandparents. You are right--without a trusted family member, I do not think I would ever have left them alone.

I raised two perfectly perfect daughters, who never misbehaved in public--who in fact got positive pleasure out of being noticed as so well behaved. That is what it often is with girls. Still, most of the time they had their own agendas and didn't want to tag along with mom and dad. (We had a tendency to go to public lectures and recitals and stuff like that. Now they do too, but not back then).

I see parents trying to control unruly kids, even using physical discipline against them in public, and it is all I can do to tell them to work these things out before bringing them out.
Grandparents suck royally sometimes and its best they are not part of your childs life. this is the case with me anyway. My son is much better off WITHOUT either set of grandparents involved. wioth that siad, i dont trust any other to be with my kid. You can easily teach your kid manners for public that will not be a problem to them or you, girls or boys, it matters not.
Kids are kids and have the right to be just that and should not be made to conform to adult agendas. although on the other hand, they should be made to be publically responsible for their actions. good or bad.manners are important.

Grandparents suck royally sometimes and its best they are not part of your childs life. this is the case with me anyway. My son is much better off WITHOUT either set of grandparents involved. wioth that siad, i dont trust any other to be with my kid. You can easily teach your kid manners for public that will not be a problem to them or you, girls or boys, it matters not.
Kids are kids and have the right to be just that and should not be made to conform to adult agendas. although on the other hand, they should be made to be publically responsible for their actions. good or bad.manners are important.
It is said that each generation grows up swearing to avoid the mistakes of their parents, so they end up making the mistakes of their grandparents (which of course their parents avoided making).

I dunno. life would be so much better without any of them, honest. i'm not perfect but no where near as an idiot as anytof them. I'd like to think I've learned from their mistakes and not make the same.

Nice avatar Imp. ;)

Danke. sweetie! ;)

Parents love their children and all too often think they can do no wrong. Well, guess what, not all other people think your children are the beginning and end of the world. While you, as a parent, might think it cute that your kid decides to sing in a restaurant, or whine about the food, or generally act in a manner that might be okay at home but is not okay outside the home, others don't share your feelings. People pay good money to go to a restaurant, or a show, or even a museum and they should not be subjected to other people's children's bratty behaviour. If children act in a fitting manner there is no reason to not take them to these places but if they don't act in a fitting manner it is the parent's responsibility to remove them and either take them home or take them to a place that caters primarily to children.

Your children yelling in a restaurant, running in a super market, crawling around on the floor in a clothing store are not cute. They are an annoyance to other people and parents do not have the right to allow their children to annoy other people.

If parents cannot find suitable and acceptable baby sitters for their children the parents should simply stay home or go to some establishment that is geared toward children. That is unless their children know how to behave.