I agree. Give me 1 minute alone with this woman. Picketing dead soldiers funerals? Spewing hate. Sheesh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2fUyJQgRuM

Watch all seven parts, or at least all of the first one.

No thanks. I already hate the Phelps family enough. Any more and I might be inclined to car bomb thier compound.
The only reason I don't is because the sickos would enjoy that.

Does anyone belong to their church besides themselves?

Does anyone belong to their church besides themselves?
i'm pretty sure it's just family members.

kinda nice that everyone hates them...:@@:

"Fags eat feces. Thats a fact, Hon"

Bwahahahahaaaaa...it really is worth watching. These nutters are gold.

+++++++++++++

OMG these people are infuriating. All she does is yell and people because "god says so".


BTW My friends and I have plans to go to Fred Phelps' funeral with "God hates Phelps" signs. I'm sure others do to.

"Fags eat feces. Thats a fact, Hon"

Bwahahahahaaaaa...it really is worth watching. These nutters are gold.

+++++++++++++

OMG these people are infuriating. All she does is yell and people because "god says so".


BTW My friends and I have plans to go to Fred Phelps' funeral with "God hates Phelps" signs. I'm sure others do to.
count me in!:thumbs:


if i can get the time off work anyways....i can drive to Kansas in a day:drive:

"YOUR GONNA EAT YOUR BABIES" (from part 5/7)

Phelps is obviously senile. Although I question how sane he was beforehand anyways...

I'm speechless...

:( That one girl, the one who he was in the car with at the end and spent a lot of time with seems so nice, but yet she is so wrong and brainwashed in how she feels.

I agree. Give me 1 minute alone with this woman. Picketing dead soldiers funerals? Spewing hate. Sheesh.


If there is a way to determine it, I will wager anyone on these boards any amount they'd like that Mr Phelps (and no doubt his entire clan) is a staunch Republican and that he has decidedly 'conservative' views and philosophy.

Not that that would be the slightest surprise to anyone.

If there is a way to determine it, I will wager anyone on these boards any amount they'd like that Mr Phelps (and no doubt his entire clan) is a staunch Republican and that he has decidedly 'conservative' views and philosophy.

Not that that would be the slightest surprise to anyone.


I wouldnt doubt it. The radical Christians always are. Or was it the "Fags eat poop" signs that told you that, haha.

If there is a way to determine it, I will wager anyone on these boards any amount they'd like that Mr Phelps (and no doubt his entire clan) is a staunch Republican and that he has decidedly 'conservative' views and philosophy.

Not that that would be the slightest surprise to anyone.
I'm also a Republican, and I detest Phelps and all he stands for. If he were to run for office, the Republican party would divorce itself from him.

People like him are not "staunch" Republicans at all. They tend not to vote because no candidate ever lives up to what they want.

I have only heard about this family in passing. I will have to watch this video when I get home, as I am on campus and dont have my ipod with me.

It sounds like - from reading your response - that there is something very wrong with them.

The Phelps' antics are so outlandish that in fact a section of the article about them on wikipedia describes certain groups' doubts about his legitimacy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps#Legitimacy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps#Legitimacy

By Phelps's own admission, he never dated, and had no interest in members of the opposite sex.

Hmmmmmmmmm.

The group "God Hates Fags" almost being attacked by an angry mob. While running away with the police, a window is broken in the car by the mob.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NcaBPXHKIw

PS: The "liberal" ACLU supports their right to do these protests. I'm not so sure I agree.

I finally just got to watch the videos on Youtube.

What a crazy, crazy lifestyle. You watch something like that and think how can anyone actually agree to that kind of stuff.

As I was watching it though, I can tell that all of them know that they are absolutely nuts. The old man is only doing this as a way to have power over others. The girls, who laugh while they are talking about the beliefs, know that they are just doing this because it's family and they havent got the stones to walk away from Gramps as four of his own children already have.

I like how the journalist just stood there half the time with the "What the fuck? Are you serious?" look on his face lol.

I finally just got to watch the videos on Youtube.

What a crazy, crazy lifestyle. You watch something like that and think how can anyone actually agree to that kind of stuff.

I agree. They are following the Bible to the letter, though.

As I was watching it though, I can tell that all of them know that they are absolutely nuts.

Yes, they ARE mentally imbalanced....but I could not disagree more on whether they see themselves as being mentally imbalanced.

They no more see themselves as being "nuts" than the other 200+ million people in this country who have the same invisible friend see themselves as being "nuts".

The old man is only doing this as a way to have power over others. The girls, who laugh while they are talking about the beliefs, know that they are just doing this because it's family and they havent got the stones to walk away from Gramps....

All of them hate and revile homosexuals for exactly the same reason; the Bible instructs them to. They are being true to the precepts of the Bible; that "holy" book tells the Phelps clan in no uncertain terms that homosexuals are so evil that they must be killed (executed) in a very painful and barbaric way (stoning).

I agree. They are following the Bible to the letter, though...

They no more see themselves as being "nuts" than the other 200+ million people in this country who have the same invisible friend see themselves as being "nuts".




Most Christians, and by that I mean 98%, at least in this country, are not like this FT.

Most Christians, and by that I mean 98%, at least in this country, are not like this FT.

If the *98%* in question do not view homosexuals as "evil" persons who deserve to be executed, then they are (thankfully) ignoring Biblical precepts.

The Phelps are --unfortunately-- following Biblical precepts.

If the *98%* in question do not view homosexuals as "evil" persons who deserve to be executed, then they are (thankfully) ignoring Biblical precepts.

The Phelps are --unfortunately-- following Biblical precepts.
there are abominations, and there are abominations! not all sins are equal either:thumbs:

there are abominations, and there are abominations! not all sins are equal either

LOL. Spoken like a true Phelpsian.

Let's face it; the Phelps are far from being the most hated familiy in America.

Americans reserve their most fierce hatred for those who do not meekly go along with the crowd; for those who walk a different path; for those who dare to speak out against the staus quo, for those who speak the truth.

America looks on the Phelps clan with a wink and a nudge; the people it truly hates are the Gore Vidals, the Noam Chomskys, the Howard Zinns.

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A large segment of American society seems utterly brainwashed, accepting the "truth" relentlessly fed to them by the Corporate Media. . They desperately want to believe the slogans about the "Land of the Free", the "American Way", "God Blessed America" and "American Democracy".

I don't know why they are doing what they are doing, nor why they are just targeting the gays. The Bible list many sins for which one will go to the lake of fire for.

Rev 21:8
8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
NKJV

abominableOh dear, bad news for you then.

Just kidding, Janrich. I'm sure you'll be fine on judgement day.

I don't know why they are doing what they are doing, nor why they are just targeting the gays. The Bible list many sins for which one will go to the lake of fire for.

Rev 21:8
8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
NKJV
What makes someone sexually immoral? Is it to get pleasure out of sex without conceiving a child? If I fondle my wife's breasts to get her going, are we sexually immoral? We will go to Hell?

LOL. Spoken like a true Phelpsian.

Let's face it; the Phelps are far from being the most hated familiy in America.

Americans reserve their most fierce hatred for those who do not meekly go along with the crowd; for those who walk a different path; for those who dare to speak out against the staus quo, for those who speak the truth.

America looks on the Phelps clan with a wink and a nudge; the people it truly hates are the Gore Vidals, the Noam Chomskys, the Howard Zinns.

_____________________________________

A large segment of American society seems utterly brainwashed, accepting the "truth" relentlessly fed to them by the Corporate Media. . They desperately want to believe the slogans about the "Land of the Free", the "American Way", "God Blessed America" and "American Democracy".
I take it you see yourself as one of those who doesn't meekly go with the crowd.

Except for sodomy the marriage bed is free from sin.

Except for sodomy the marriage bed is free from sin.
wrong again, Heretic. you're still going to hell for marrying your brother.

What makes someone sexually immoral? Is it to get pleasure out of sex without conceiving a child? If I fondle my wife's breasts to get her going, are we sexually immoral? We will go to Hell?
not likely...immoral is a value judgement, and you get the curve on that.:thumbs:

if fact John Paul II cleared foreplay quite some time ago..as long as conception could happen, you're in the clear.

come to think of it? artificial birth control could fail....that's a stretch, but guilt depends on how you feel about it.

freethinker has a one track mind. no matter what the story, it always comes back to christians/ republicans. What a sad life.

Do you know what the greatest showdown would be to watch? This undeniably insane Phelps-Roper nut job going up against the "God Warrior" from Wife Swap!:lolhit: 100% viewer population turn out...

Do you know what the greatest showdown would be to watch? This undeniably insane Phelps-Roper nut job going up against the "God Warrior" from Wife Swap!:lolhit: 100% viewer population turn out...
they should do a Thanksgiving Special....with FT~since he's not doing any thing that day anyways.

i'd pay to see that!

lol

Freethinker with 500lb guerilla vs. Phelps and God Warrior in a pay per view fight to the death cage match. "Two groups of pyscho one track minded zealots enter, one group of pyscho one track minded zealots leave". It would be like thunderdome. Chainsaws and pikes hanging on the bars. Bungie cord jump seats. That would be awsome. I dont know waht freethinker and guerilla look like, but if they look anything like how I picture them they dont stand a chance.

not likely...immoral is a value judgement, and you get the curve on that.:thumbs:

if fact John Paul II cleared foreplay quite some time ago..as long as conception could happen, you're in the clear.

come to think of it? artificial birth control could fail....that's a stretch, but guilt depends on how you feel about it.
Sorry but conception could not happen; she is past menopause. Is it a sin to have sex with your wife when she is past menopause, since conception is impossible?

It seems to me if God had planned for sex to be solely for reproduction, the way the instinct manifests itself would be via the parenting instincts, not the lust instincts. For all our instincts tell us, sex and reproduction are not associated at all.

Now if you look at it from a non-theist perspective, it makes more sense. There was no plan. Lust evolved separately from parental instincts pretty much by accident.

Except for sodomy the marriage bed is free from sin.
If it weren't for "sodomy" (I take it you mean anal intercourse), birth control in poor countries would not exist.

The birth rate in rural Vietnam has plummeted now that public health has reached the point that children normally survive to adulthood. This is entirely without the benefit of modern birth control. Once people realize their children will survive, they don't want as many babies.

Your approach to the world is way to judgemental.

Sorry but conception could not happen; she is past menopause. Is it a sin to have sex with your wife when she is past menopause, since conception is impossible?

think of it as a pension.

you say "Your approach to the world is way to judgemental." My approach is The Bible and it is always right.

This is just the first one and the one that is for men and women.

sodomy 1. anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex.

Fringe church plans to picket Tech funerals
The group has previously appeared at funerals for those killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

BY KIMBALL PAYNE

April 19, 2007, 12:10 PM EDT

A fringe church that has received attention and scorn for protesting the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq is planning to picket memorial services for those who died in Monday's massacre at Virginia Tech.

Members of the Westboro Baptist Church have disrupted funerals with explicit signs blaming the war in Iraq on homosexuals. A church a news release says:

"The 33 massacred at Virginia Tech died for America's sins against WBC ( Westboro Baptist Church). Just as U.S. soldiers are dying in Iraq each day for America's sins against WBC."

Attorney General Bob McDonnell is warning protesters that they could be arrested for interrupting funerals. McDonnell's spokesman sent out an e-mail detailing the section of the Virginia Code that can be used to quell disturbances at funerals saying further that McDonnell "wants to ensure that those who perished on Monday receive the dignified and tranquil services that they, and their families, deserve."

The code section states that a person can be arrested for disorderly conduct for willfully disrupting any funeral or memorial service.

The group has threatened to protest at other events, but has not shown up.

Pastor Fred Phelps and his congregation at the church in Topeka, Kan., travel the country preaching damnation to a "nation of sinners,'" routinely glorying in the death of U.S soldiers.

His church of 75 people, many of them his relatives, believes that God causes the death of soldiers as punishment for a society that condones homosexuality.

They routinely carry signs that read "Thank God for IEDs," referring to the improvised explosive devices that have killed many service members in Iraq. The church's Web site is named "godhatesfags.'"

They have utterly offended state and federal lawmakers, who have passed laws aimed at curbing the protests. Congress passed a law that restricts demonstrations at national cemeteries and last year Gov. Timothy M. Kaine signed a bill making such protests in Virginia a misdemeanor.

http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-now-tech-protest.a20,0,3433197.story?track=mostemailedlink

Fringe church plans to picket Tech funerals
The group has previously appeared at funerals for those killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

BY KIMBALL PAYNE

April 19, 2007, 12:10 PM EDT

A fringe church that has received attention and scorn for protesting the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq is planning to picket memorial services for those who died in Monday's massacre at Virginia Tech.

Members of the Westboro Baptist Church have disrupted funerals with explicit signs blaming the war in Iraq on homosexuals. A church a news release says:

"The 33 massacred at Virginia Tech died for America's sins against WBC ( Westboro Baptist Church). Just as U.S. soldiers are dying in Iraq each day for America's sins against WBC."

Attorney General Bob McDonnell is warning protesters that they could be arrested for interrupting funerals. McDonnell's spokesman sent out an e-mail detailing the section of the Virginia Code that can be used to quell disturbances at funerals saying further that McDonnell "wants to ensure that those who perished on Monday receive the dignified and tranquil services that they, and their families, deserve."

The code section states that a person can be arrested for disorderly conduct for willfully disrupting any funeral or memorial service.

The group has threatened to protest at other events, but has not shown up.

Pastor Fred Phelps and his congregation at the church in Topeka, Kan., travel the country preaching damnation to a "nation of sinners,'" routinely glorying in the death of U.S soldiers.

His church of 75 people, many of them his relatives, believes that God causes the death of soldiers as punishment for a society that condones homosexuality.

They routinely carry signs that read "Thank God for IEDs," referring to the improvised explosive devices that have killed many service members in Iraq. The church's Web site is named "godhatesfags.'"

They have utterly offended state and federal lawmakers, who have passed laws aimed at curbing the protests. Congress passed a law that restricts demonstrations at national cemeteries and last year Gov. Timothy M. Kaine signed a bill making such protests in Virginia a misdemeanor.

http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-now-tech-protest.a20,0,3433197.story?track=mostemailedlink



I don't even know what to say. God they piss me off:upyours:

Fringe church plans to picket Tech funerals
The group has previously appeared at funerals for those killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.--BY KIMBALL PAYNE--April 19, 2007, 12:10 PM EDT

I don't even know what to say. God they piss me off :upyours:

?!?!?

They are simply trying to follow Biblical dictates, which tell them in no uncertain terms that homosexuals are evil doers who deserve to be put to death.

I don't know why any Bible believer such as yourself would be angry with them. The God of the Christians--if what he says in the huge compendium of myths and fables known as "the Bible" is to be taken as the truth-- truly DOES hate homosexuals.

Phelps and his group are just trying to be faithful followers of the Bible!

I cannot help but wonder; does it always *piss you off* when groups of Christians actually do as their Bible instructs them?!?!?

I mean, sure, Phelps and his clan piss me off to no end---------but only because they are superstitious cretins who think what the Bible says means something and because they are --quite correctly from a Biblical perspective-- promoting violence, hatred and bigotry.

But why they would anger you and other Bible believers makes no sense.