You use this all the time, even when you were relatively new here and so was I. It is a cheap attempt to make me feel bad, and bad manners.

Bullshit. When you make a blanket statement that Christians are represented by Pat Robertson or that all Christians are bad you should be made to feel bad. It was a stupid, mean spirited thing to say.

If you disagree with my statements whether they be in jest or of a serious nature, address them, not me. Just as you have failed to provide rebuttal for Rosie O'Donnell's points and resort to personal attacks, you do not address my posts but degrade me instead.

If your statements are in jest place a LOL or a smiley after them. If they are not made in jest I most certainly will address not only the statements but the person who made them. When you insult my religion and by extension me do not expect to be treated with kid gloves.


And your insult doesn't hold water, as your disagreement with my playing devil's advocate doesn't mean I am somehow not openminded.

Devil's Advocate my ass. You become less and less open minded with each passing day, Evakian.

^^ This is rich, considering the source.

no one ever sees themself as the bad guy.

no one ever sees themself as the bad guy.
Oi. I can only hope sparky never tells our story of lust and love. He seems to tell all about Rosie, madonna and the others so easily. I knew him before them.
hush Sparky baby! Let it be our secret!

Bullshit. When you make a blanket statement that Christians are represented by Pat Robertson or that all Christians are bad you should be made to feel bad. It was a stupid, mean spirited thing to say.
If your statements are in jest place a LOL or a smiley after them. If they are not made in jest I most certainly will address not only the statements but the person who made them. When you insult my religion and by extension me do not expect to be treated with kid gloves.
If I place an "LOL" I look like a fool, if I place a smiley I kill the mood. Perhaps in the future you should learn to detect tone better.
Devil's Advocate my ass. You become less and less open minded with each passing day, Evakian.
While this is wholly untrue, you do happen to be become more childish with time. Also, if being open minded is a quality then why is it that you are so narrow minded and dogmatic?
no one ever sees themself as the bad guy.
I see the offense in my postings, and so never claimed I was the opposite of a "bad guy."

Nappy, both you and Evakian have asserted that Christians are bad simply because they are Christians. You have tarred an entire group with a very large brush because of a small minority among that group. If the same was done with the Muslims I suspect you would be among the first to cry foul.

Let's look at the relative numbers of 'evil doers' within both religions. There have been literally hundreds if not thousands of Muslims who have killed in the name of their religion within the last ten or twenty years. How many Christians have done the same within the same time period? One or two Christians have used violence against abortion clinics or abortion doctors and yet these one or two are almost always brought up as being representative of Christianity. Pat Robertson is annointed as the representative of Christianity yet all the Mullahs who issue Fatwahs against Christians are considered to be merely abberations among the Muslim faithful.

I have read the anti-Christian crap on this site since I first started posting here and have decided that in the future I will call anti-Christian bigots exactly what they are.

Oi. I can only hope sparky never tells our story of lust and love. He seems to tell all about Rosie, madonna and the others so easily. I knew him before them.
hush Sparky baby! Let it be our secret!
he can be cavalier about them because they didn't mean nearly as much;)

he can be cavalier about them because they didn't mean nearly as much;)
You are soooo right. I mean more to him then them! He knows it too.:banana:

If I place an "LOL" I look like a fool, if I place a smiley I kill the mood. Perhaps in the future you should learn to detect tone better.
find a way to inject some tone and maybe it will be detectable
While this is wholly untrue, you do happen to be become more childish with time. Also, if being open minded is a quality then why is it that you are so narrow minded and dogmatic?
pot..kettle...black:rolleyes:

I see the offense in my postings, and so never claimed I was the opposite of a "bad guy."
the love of money isn't the root of all evil, arrogance is...what makes you feel that quote was directed at you? guilt?

You are soooo right. I mean more to him then them! He knows it too.:banana:
of course you do!

(((Imp)))

Nappy, both you and Evakian have asserted that Christians are bad simply because they are Christians. You have tarred an entire group with a very large brush because of a small minority among that group. If the same was done with the Muslims I suspect you would be among the first to cry foul.

Let's look at the relative numbers of 'evil doers' within both religions. There have been literally hundreds if not thousands of Muslims who have killed in the name of their religion within the last ten or twenty years. How many Christians have done the same within the same time period? One or two Christians have used violence against abortion clinics or abortion doctors and yet these one or two are almost always brought up as being representative of Christianity. Pat Robertson is annointed as the representative of Christianity yet all the Mullahs who issue Fatwahs against Christians are considered to be merely abberations among the Muslim faithful.

I have read the anti-Christian crap on this site since I first started posting here and have decided that in the future I will call anti-Christian bigots exactly what they are.
So quick to throw stones, are we not?

Oi. I can only hope sparky never tells our story of lust and love. He seems to tell all about Rosie, madonna and the others so easily. I knew him before them.
hush Sparky baby! Let it be our secret!
Tch, like you should worry about what he is telling when you have been "sharing" all evening about your romps together and all of those special and useful techniques which I am gonna try out tomorrow on some lucky rascal. Sssssshhh.

Actually it was you and Evakian who were throwing stones, Nappy. I simply said I wasn't going to sit idly by while you do so. When you throw stones I am going to call attention to the fact.

You have tarred an entire group with a very large brush because of a small minority among that group.
I said: "Okay, let's us define this "bad." How about we say that everyone who believes in God is bad due to their superstitions? That way we go from "most" to all Christians, and we even threw the Muslims and Jews in the pot."

I am not picking out a minority, I am labeling them bad because of their religious beliefs that the entire group shares.

find a way to inject some tone and maybe it will be detectable
Hooray for people without brains! For they post here for many months and they cannot realize what it is Nappy and I are saying.
pot..kettle...black:rolleyes:
A) I am one of the most open-minded individuals on the planet. Quiz me.
B) If I hear this phrase uttered one more time in the next week, I'm going to send you pictures of corpses to your PM box.
the love of money isn't the root of all evil, arrogance is...what makes you feel that quote was directed at you? guilt?
You like Frogger, but have a distaste for me. Simple deduction.

Actually it was you and Evakian who were throwing stones, Nappy. I simply said I wasn't going to sit idly by while you do so. When you throw stones I am going to call attention to the fact.
Haha, dumbass.

See, I can call you a dumbass, and not be a hypocrite. Why? Because I don't decry the action of doing so. In fact, I make it an art form. You, on the other hand, get yer pretty cotton panties all in a bunch whenever it happens to you, yet never hesitate to hand out all of the passive-aggressive fancy pants digs you can think of whenever you have a soap box to stand on.

Evakian,

I don't dislike you and I think you know it. I do dislike some of the things you say though.

Napsterbater,

For some reason you seem to think you are God's greatest gift to the internet. You even think posting outrageous crap somehow elevates you to some special status, that it is, in your words, "an art form". You can sculpt shit in any way you want and it is still shit. It isn't art and you aren't an artist.

I'm not being passive aggressive. I'm being openly aggressive. I think your ongoing anti-Christian postings are hateful and I am going to aggressively, not passively respond to them.

I think your ongoing anti-Christian postings are hateful and I am going to aggressively, not passively respond to them.
Be my guest, Frogger, you'll find out very quickly that you can neither outmaneuver me or outgun me. It would seem like you never learned your lesson the first time.

For some reason you seem to think you are God's greatest gift to the internet. You even think posting outrageous crap somehow elevates you to some special status, that it is, in your words, "an art form". You can sculpt shit in any way you want and it is still shit. It isn't art and you aren't an artist.
Babycakes, why must you say such mean things about me?

Hooray for people without brains! For they post here for many months and they cannot realize what it is Nappy and I are saying.
how can we when you don't either?:@@:

A) I am one of the most open-minded individuals on the planet. Quiz me.
what was Elvis Presley's last #1 hit?
B) If I hear this phrase uttered one more time in the next week, I'm going to send you pictures of corpses to your PM box.
pot..kettle...black
pot..kettle...black
pot..kettle...black
pot..kettle...black
You like Frogger, but have a distaste for me. Simple deduction.
i actually seek out your posts. most of the time they're quite entertaining.

B) If I hear this phrase uttered one more time in the next week, I'm going to send you pictures of corpses to your PM box.Another argument against analogies: when a useful one is discovered people beat it to death.

Here, this picture is better than a corpse:

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3804/sanjayajc6.jpg

how can we when you don't either?:@@:
That is a good response.

You and sedan get to be in my good book. Free ice cream cones for you!

Napsterbater,

You seem to think you are some sort of deep thinker. Not so. In fact, you are so shallow you would be out of your depth in a parking lot puddle.

Sometimes your posts are slightly amusing but they are almost never even moderately deep.

It is nice that you have such a high opinion of yourself though, Nappy; especially since it is just about the only thing you have going for you.

It is nice that you have such a high opinion of yourself though, Nappy; especially since it is just about the only thing you have going for you.
Well, he has a huge scrotum, whereas you are goblin food.

Oh wait, that was a story.

That is a good response.

You and sedan get to be in my good book. Free ice cream cones for you!
that means you're killing us last after your coup', right?:(

How sharper than a serpent's tooth is an ungrateful child.

Remember when you needed a shoulder to cry on, Evakian. Who's shoulder did you pick?

Goddamn, I'm bored already! You want to get deep Frogger, go find a fucking Bible. It seems only artificial inscrutableness can be deep for you, so you need retards to make up flashy, ridiculous myths for you to even feel like you have a purpose in life. You think there's shit in the Bible worth reading? Worth reading only long enough to realize that the world was run by garbage men trading their stock for your gold.

You read it for hours, pondering what secrets it holds, never does it once cross your mind that it could just be rat bastards playing tricks on feeble minds. No you go on, pulling the wool over your eyes yourself! As real-world basis after real-world basis for Christianity gets torn away from your grasping clutches, you retreat further into delusion to justify the ridiculous notions of fancy that Christianity is. And worse, you hold that the suspension of logic and reason a virtue, teach it to the young while they are impressionable and, more importantly, unable to refuse, filling their minds with the most atrocious garbage ever inflicted on the human race.

And you would castigate me for finding meaning in myself, rather than your book of foolish lies used over the centuries as a method to gain dominion over small minded idiots? You would reject the simple wisdoms of a life simply led, using the ideas of the day, and not the ancient past?

What a fucking moron.

Goddamn, I'm bored already! You want to get deep Frogger, go find a fucking Bible. It seems only artificial inscrutableness can be deep for you, so you need retards to make up flashy, ridiculous myths for you to even feel like you have a purpose in life. You think there's shit in the Bible worth reading? Worth reading only long enough to realize that the world was run by garbage men trading their stock for your gold.

You read it for hours, pondering what secrets it holds, never does it once cross your mind that it could just be rat bastards playing tricks on feeble minds. No you go on, pulling the wool over your eyes yourself! As real-world basis after real-world basis for Christianity gets torn away from your grasping clutches, you retreat further into delusion to justify the ridiculous notions of fancy that Christianity is. And worse, you hold that the suspension of logic and reason a virtue, teach it to the young while they are impressionable and, more importantly, unable to refuse, filling their minds with the most atrocious garbage ever inflicted on the human race.

And you would castigate me for finding meaning in myself, rather than your book of foolish lies used over the centuries as a method to gain dominion over small minded idiots? You would reject the simple wisdoms of a life simply led, using the ideas of the day, and not the ancient past?

What a fucking moron.
do you have something better?

Haha, I got bored.

But, yeah, I think I might. I think the worst thing is not that Christians do these things, mentioned above, but that they refuse to even hold themselves accountable for it anymore. They don't even care anymore about the rolling back of reason in this country, and see ever more fit to simply dismiss such arguments as old hat, as you seem to be. Of course they're old hat, they're three hundred years old!

Back when I was grading papers I would have given yours a C-, Napsterbater. It is a garbled bunch of pedantic meanderings.

I prefer to look at Christianity this way:

It is a story that represents a set of ideas that give many people comfort and inspiration: love, forgiveness and redemption. It builds on a pre-existing monothiestic belief system that has a very easy sell owning to it's simplicity. The details of the religion, it's history and the things done in it's name are wrought with evil, but the ideas and beilefs it inspires in people have led to some of the greatest artists and thinkers the human race has ever seen.

Yes, there is a lot for which it can be criticised, but that is mostly owning to the influence and actions of human mortals over the centuries.

I believe the concepts that sell Christianity, Love, Forgiveness and Redemption, do have some intrinsic value outside the corruption of "Churches".

Read and learn, Napsterbater.

Back when I was grading papers I would have given yours a C-, Napsterbater. It is a garbled bunch of pedantic meanderings.
If you think there's anything special about being a teacher, Frogger, you're deluding yourself. Teachers are no better than their students. I could give a rat's ass whether you think the work of three minutes of off the top of my head ranting deserves an A in your book or not.

Read and learn, Napsterbater.
So Christianity has done some good, huh? So has World War 2. But I don't see you clamoring for a World War 3, do I?

Remember when you needed a shoulder to cry on, Evakian. Who's shoulder did you pick?
Goethe's shoulder! He wears women's suits so there is padding.

But, he couldn't understand what I was saying so mumbled "Ich kann so like not understand du, meine schlange mannschaft is zu lange."
And I was saying, "Mannschaft? So like? Can you say der gay fruit?"

He ran off crying and started writing poetry in his sad state. We haven't spoken since.

If you think there's anything special about being a teacher, Frogger, you're deluding yourself. Teachers are no better than their students.

I guess that means your teachers were pretty damned awful.:hitout:

I prefer to look at Christianity this way:

It is a story that represents a set of ideas that give many people comfort and inspiration: love, forgiveness and redemption. It builds on a pre-existing monothiestic belief system that has a very easy sell owning to it's simplicity. The details of the religion, it's history and the things done in it's name are wrought with evil, but the ideas and beilefs it inspires in people have led to some of the greatest artists and thinkers the human race has ever seen.

Yes, there is a lot for which it can be criticised, but that is mostly owning to the influence and actions of human mortals over the centuries.

I believe the concepts that sell Christianity, Love, Forgiveness and Redemption, do have some intrinsic value outside the corruption of "Churches".
This is the best post you've ever written here, Dharma.

If you think there's anything special about being a teacher, Frogger, you're deluding yourself. Teachers are no better than their students.

I guess that means your teachers were pretty damned awful.:hitout:
I didn't listen to them long enough to find out.

I didn't listen to them long enough to find out.
pity, you might have learned something.:(

From my teachers? Heh.

Goddamn, I'm bored already! You want to get deep Frogger, go find a fucking Bible. It seems only artificial inscrutableness can be deep for you, so you need retards to make up flashy, ridiculous myths for you to even feel like you have a purpose in life. You think there's shit in the Bible worth reading? Worth reading only long enough to realize that the world was run by garbage men trading their stock for your gold.

You read it for hours, pondering what secrets it holds, never does it once cross your mind that it could just be rat bastards playing tricks on feeble minds. No you go on, pulling the wool over your eyes yourself! As real-world basis after real-world basis for Christianity gets torn away from your grasping clutches, you retreat further into delusion to justify the ridiculous notions of fancy that Christianity is. And worse, you hold that the suspension of logic and reason a virtue, teach it to the young while they are impressionable and, more importantly, unable to refuse, filling their minds with the most atrocious garbage ever inflicted on the human race.


Excellent post.

From my teachers? Heh.
did you learn to read, write, and do long division all by yourself?:confused:

Do you even remember how to do long division?

Do you even remember how to do long division?
i do it twice a week to figure out my cost per mile for my car.

i do it twice a week to figure out my cost per mile for my car.
You don't use a calculator for that???

Speaking of Christianity - in his forthcoming book, the Pope claimed the West, in it's pursuit of earthly prosperity, has "plundered and sacked" Africa and other poor regions for years. With this line in particular: "We see how our lifestyle, the history that involved us, has stripped them naked and continues to strip them naked," he constructs a nauseating preamble.

Contrary to the Pope's statement, the Third World is not impoverished because of Western 'exploitation'. :rolleyes: It's impoverished precisely because it failed to embrace Western ideals - the very ideals rejected by Christianity itself.

Western prosperity is rooted in reason, science, and capitalism. Rational minds, free to pursue material prosperity, have produced an explosion of wealth and technology - from electricity to automobiles, from medicines to personal computers - and THAT, my friend, is directly responsible for improving our lives and extending our lifespan.

It's obvious the third world failed to embrace these values, and has instead, remained mired in mysticism and tribalism (mostly due to their own religious convictions), but, and here's the kicker - Christianity rejects these things too; it teaches us to scorn science and earthly success in favor of prayer and religious asceticism. As Jesus himself counseled his followers, 'Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth'. It's beyond bizarre to suggest that the solution to third world poverty is a philosophy that idealizes poverty itself.

In rejecting this goal of prosperity, the Pope makes it clear that his aim is not to see the Third World advance - it's to condemn the West for its commitment to improving and enjoying life on this earth...OUR EARTH.

Or at least, so it seems... :rolleyes:

Those who desire better lives for themselves and their families should reject the Pope's immoral message, and embrace the values of reason, science, economics, and freedom.

I'm sorry, Frogger, but I hate the Catholic Church, and pretty much, along with it, every organized religion under the sun.

In short, the "church" has been fucking with big business for far too long. I say, enough is enough.

didnt someone say rosie should not be fired but public forced suicide would be OK? lol

I would say burn her at the stake but you know how fat spatters.

How's this for a real beaut...

http://llamabutchers.mu.nu/archives/rosie%20odonnell%20luv%20letter%20to%20cakeater.jp g

Oh - how precious....

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00111/Boy_George_og_Rosie_111679a.jpg

:rolleyes:

You don't use a calculator for that???
i could if it was in the car, but it's too big to fit in the glovebox.

Uhhh, do you have a cell phone???

Speaking of Christianity - in his forthcoming book, the Pope claimed the West, in it's pursuit of earthly prosperity, has "plundered and sacked" Africa and other poor regions for years. With this line in particular: "We see how our lifestyle, the history that involved us, has stripped them naked and continues to strip them naked," he constructs a nauseating preamble.

Contrary to the Pope's statement, the Third World is not impoverished because of Western 'exploitation'. :rolleyes: It's impoverished precisely because it failed to embrace Western ideals - the very ideals rejected by Christianity itself.

Western prosperity is rooted in reason, science, and capitalism. Rational minds, free to pursue material prosperity, have produced an explosion of wealth and technology - from electricity to automobiles, from medicines to personal computers - and THAT, my friend, is directly responsible for improving our lives and extending our lifespan.

It's obvious the third world failed to embrace these values, and has instead, remained mired in mysticism and tribalism (mostly due to their own religious convictions), but, and here's the kicker - Christianity rejects these things too; it teaches us to scorn science and earthly success in favor of prayer and religious asceticism. As Jesus himself counseled his followers, 'Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth'. It's beyond bizarre to suggest that the solution to third world poverty is a philosophy that idealizes poverty itself.

In rejecting this goal of prosperity, the Pope makes it clear that his aim is not to see the Third World advance - it's to condemn the West for its commitment to improving and enjoying life on this earth...OUR EARTH.

Or at least, so it seems... :rolleyes:

Those who desire better lives for themselves and their families should reject the Pope's immoral message, and embrace the values of reason, science, economics, and freedom.

I'm sorry, Frogger, but I hate the Catholic Church, and pretty much, along with it, every organized religion under the sun.

In short, the "church" has been fucking with big business for far too long. I say, enough is enough.
treasure and capital are two different things. treasure serves no other purpose than to have it, capital is a tool.

Uhhh, do you have a cell phone???
using a cell phone anywhere near a gas pump is illegal and unsafe. you don't want me to be the second person to blow up a gas station, do you?


(shut up, Nappy:rolleyes:)


honestly, i didn't even know my razr had one until i just looked:lolhit:

i've been busy playing with everything else on it.

treasure and capital are two different things. treasure serves no other purpose than to have it, capital is a tool.
Splitting hairs, aren't we? Semantics aside, my point is sound.

In a broader sense, capital = treasure, does it not? One cannot exist without the other.

using a cell phone anywhere near a gas pump is illegal and unsafe.
Yeah - I've heard that, but I think it's (to a greater or lesser degree) complete bullshit (READ; I think it's nothing more than a legal disclaimer). The amount of fumes it would take for your cell phone to ignite said "atmospheric fuel" would have to be staggering. I'm guessing you'd have a difficult time breathing in an environment conducive to it. OTOH, why not have everyone wear a grounding cord before approaching a pump, because when you think about it, static electricity would produce the same effect.

That aside, no one is stopping you from using your phone calculator while in your car (receipt in hand, of course). ;)

why dont they just cancel the View and be done with it, the show is a waste of oxygen, or is contributing to global warming with all the CO2 being emmited when those broads flap thier gums

......is contributing to global warming with all the CO2 being emmited when those broads flap thier gums
I have a feeling those glorified housewives are gonna flap their gums either way.

honestly, i didn't even know my razr had one until i just looked:lolhit:

i've been busy playing with everything else on it.
I paid 600 dollars for my Razr (in early '04) because I thought it was such a cool piece of engineering, and now, everyone and their cousin has one. God, I hate it when that happens....

Time for an iPhone.

lol, my wife and I were just laughing about the morons who paid all that money for that phone when you get them free now when you sign up for cell service. Its OK, I paid 600 bucks for a 21" widescreen computer monitor now you can get bigger ones for half the price.

i read over this thread, and there is so much to answer to about people labeling christianity I don't even know where to start...

so i won't...

LOL

lol, my wife and I were just laughing about the morons who paid all that money for that phone when you get them free now when you sign up for cell service. Its OK, I paid 600 bucks for a 21" widescreen computer monitor now you can get bigger ones for half the price.
The name of the game isn't who HAS it - it's who had it FIRST. Unfortunately, you pay for that privilege, but OTOH, it's neat while it lasts.

I guess information helps our lives. Cell phone, Internet, News, and any media that bring information helps our thought. Nothing is innocuity in every aspect. Everyone mistook something on their own lives. It's not matter on the value for our lives and for the destiny on the world. Information makes productivity and technology. I believe technology for our lives, our destiny, and our future.
For that purpose, we must take knowledge more.

If we can live over two hundred years, we'll more wise.