Here is an imaginary job description, my topic is interested in the minimum salary you would accept for doing this:

This is a one-year contract job, you must work 40 hours a week for 50 weeks. You will stand facing a white wall in a reasonably sized, lit, quiet, air conditioned room alone. You are required to do nothing but stand there except for bathroom breaks and lunch. Small degrees of stretching and noises are okay. You are examined everyday upon entering, to make sure that you are not equipped with any gadget or medicated to "doze through" the day. Similarly, you are monitored at lunch and bathrooms to make sure you are not doing anything other than the function of eating and relieve. That's it. Just stand there for two four-hour stretch everyday for a year.

I don't think someone can bare that 'job', no matter what the salary.

Ok. How about 5 weeks instead of 50 weeks.

Uhm, that's doable, but damn boring. Do I have a chair? so I can sit down? Am I allowed to move at all? If I had a chair and was allowed to move even a little bit, I can do like 10/hour.

Yeah okay if you are hurting then you can have a chair, but you can't take a nap or anything, you have to stay fully alert. The point is you have to be dealing with doing nothing.

A person who's good at daydreaming would probably do ok at this for a while.

Still, you'd need to be paid quite a bit.

You'd need it for your lengthy stay at the Giggle Academy after the men in the white coats come and take you away.

Very few people would be able to stand staring at a blank wall for an hour never mind a year.

I think that job is called "detention" and we dont even get paid! Cruel and unusual punishment!

I am asking you to assume that you can demand as high a salary as you want, just give me a minimum amount that can get you to do it.

Is there anyone who would stare at a blank wall for a year in exchange for a life time of unlimited wealth? Nobody?

I am asking you to assume that you can demand as high a salary as you want, just give me a minimum amount that can get you to do it.

Is there anyone who would stare at a blank wall for a year in exchange for a life time of unlimited wealth? Nobody?

I would do it for a flat rate of one million dollars, minimum.

I suppose I could wile away the time by daydreaming about the stuff I was going to buy.

5 weeks, I'd do it for twenty grand.

A year, I'd do for a hundred fifty grand.

I have no clue how I'd stay awake, mind you, I'd probably get fired!

That nun on the right would put ya off Islam for life

What? You would actually take less money for doing a year?

150 grands in 50 weeks is less than 20 grands in 5 weeks

that translates to:

For 5 weeks, you would take an hourly wage of $100
For 1 year, you would take an hourly wage of $75

I don't see why not. A job's a job, after all. It's an unpleasant one, sure, but there's no unpleasantness that ingenuity couldn't handle. Assuming I make it past the first month, I'd just get used to it.

Here is an imaginary job description, my topic is interested in the minimum salary you would accept for doing this:

This is a one-year contract job, you must work 40 hours a week for 50 weeks. You will stand facing a white wall in a reasonably sized, lit, quiet, air conditioned room alone. You are required to do nothing but stand there except for bathroom breaks and lunch. Small degrees of stretching and noises are okay. You are examined everyday upon entering, to make sure that you are not equipped with any gadget or medicated to "doze through" the day. Similarly, you are monitored at lunch and bathrooms to make sure you are not doing anything other than the function of eating and relieve. That's it. Just stand there for two four-hour stretch everyday for a year.lol, what a question Dio Seijuro.

The lack of social interaction and the stress of standing still would seriously fuck with one's psychological health. I'd want nothing short of enough money to retire in relative luxury after such a soul-destroying ordeal. So I'd be wanting, I dunno, $5 million plus. Even then I don't know. I love what I do and that is the bottom line to my own personal contentment in life, not the salary.

Nice to see you 'round these parts again, Blob.

R+P hasn't been the same without you.

Sounds a lot like guard duty.

Cheers Napster! It's nice to be notable by absence.

Sounds a lot like guard duty.
That's true. I imagine people whose regular job is a security guard would be willing to take a rather low minimum for this.

Good point,dharmabum.

That's true. I imagine people whose regular job is a security guard would be willing to take a rather low minimum for this.I can confirm that in Africa it's barely enough to live on for 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week with a few scattered days off every month. There is also a very real danger of getting attacked or even killed from armed robbers.

Sounds more like solitary confinement in prison to me.

What a fucking depressing conversation, lol.

However much money it would take to be able to live at something slightly better than my current lifestyle without having to work again. I'll say $5 million.

For a year? 8 hours a day staring at a wall? Id do it for a lot less than a million. Say 250k, thats probably reasonable.

Methinks things need to liven up a little over there in Korea. You seem a little bored! :D

A full year.. Ouch. I can hardly stand the job I have, and I can mess around on a computer all day. For a full year, I would have to get at least 200,000, that job would be a living hell. For 5 weeks I would be willing to do it for 15,000, it would be a good story to tell.

Kids, let me tell you what I used to do for a living...

it would be a good story to tell."Now I remember, oh April 2007 it must have been, I went to work expecting another regular day at the wall. But no! At one point in that day, I swear on my life, a small spider walked across the wall... right in front of my very eyes! Imagine my excitement.... etc"

Here is an imaginary job description, my topic is interested in the minimum salary you would accept for doing this:

This is a one-year contract job, you must work 40 hours a week for 50 weeks. You will stand facing a white wall in a reasonably sized, lit, quiet, air conditioned room alone. You are required to do nothing but stand there except for bathroom breaks and lunch. Small degrees of stretching and noises are okay. You are examined everyday upon entering, to make sure that you are not equipped with any gadget or medicated to "doze through" the day. Similarly, you are monitored at lunch and bathrooms to make sure you are not doing anything other than the function of eating and relieve. That's it. Just stand there for two four-hour stretch everyday for a year.
I'd not be able to do it, and so won't claim I would. It is best not to waste one's life in such a way, money isn't everything, especially not compared to time.

However much money it would take to be able to live at something slightly better than my current lifestyle without having to work again. I'll say $5 million.
A couple million is enough to have a high lifestyle if you can make ten percent on your money--even five percent will leave you very comfortable.

If you live in SE Asia you can have a cook, a housekeeper, a driver and a villa with a swimming pool and badminton court.

Hm, interesting discussion. There is absolutely no amount of money you could give me in order to entice me into wasting five weeks of my life let alone a year. I was thinking perhaps this was because of my age, 50, closer to death etc. but I see that at the end Evak has said the same thing and he is on the opposite end of the age scale to me. Therefore, this must reflect the way one views the potential to earn money versus ? what....bordom perhaps. Or is it something to do with one's grasp of mortality and perhaps one's current view of their current lifestyle. Where were you hoping to go with this Dio?

The spider thing was pretty accurate by the way. That about sums it up.

I checked Evil Homer's Public Profile and think he could do it with no trouble at all.

Date of Birth:
April 15, 1989
Age:
18
Gender:
Toaster
Biography:
ask me
Location:
Beats Me.
Interests:
none, i sit in my room all day looking at the wall
Occupation:
Deadbeat.

I can daydream like no other, so it wouldnt be so bad :)

Having loads of money,lying on a beach all day watching your skin die,drinking gods knows what,is fine for a couple of weeks,but permanently.
Sure youd be bored stupid.

Time spent "doing nothing" is not wasted time, mainly because it is not possible to "do nothing." Times when we have that illusion are really times doing a sort of meditation, where our mind sorts and resorts things and gets some rest.

The real wastes of time are spent commuting, watching TV (especially the channel hopping around and around the channels), and working at jobs we don't enjoy.

Having loads of money,lying on a beach all day watching your skin die,drinking gods knows what,is fine for a couple of weeks,but permanently.
Sure youd be bored stupid.

That's basically what I do all winter and I love ilt.:drinktoth The only thing I don't do is imbibe in alcoholic beverages.

Yea at your age yu need the heat old man haha.

Jealousy is not becoming, Paul. I know you envy me.:lolhit:

Hehe. Yes a couple of weeks in Pampona Beach sounds very good.

Do you mean Pompano Beach?

it is possible to do it. ask someone in the military to do it. it's called guard duty.





Here is an imaginary job description, my topic is interested in the minimum salary you would accept for doing this:

This is a one-year contract job, you must work 40 hours a week for 50 weeks. You will stand facing a white wall in a reasonably sized, lit, quiet, air conditioned room alone. You are required to do nothing but stand there except for bathroom breaks and lunch. Small degrees of stretching and noises are okay. You are examined everyday upon entering, to make sure that you are not equipped with any gadget or medicated to "doze through" the day. Similarly, you are monitored at lunch and bathrooms to make sure you are not doing anything other than the function of eating and relieve. That's it. Just stand there for two four-hour stretch everyday for a year.

Do you mean Pompano Beach?
Yea, thats the one, jealous, who me,
just a bit, tho I couldnt stand the heat.

Using the white wall as a benchmark my friend and I came up with many other situations and made this a sort of a mental game. You pretty much get an idea of how much money a person will take to be willing to endure various types of suffering.

I'll try to post some soon. But some are really gross, crude, embarrassing. It started feeling like we were playing mental Fear Factor towards the end. But a lot worse.

Some examples include corporeal pain, mental harrasement, eating disgusting stuff, permanent disability of different kinds, and up to ideas of impressive imaginations. (a good one was, instead of white wall, you simply go through a stasis of sort, so that you close your eyes and open your eyes again, one year has passed without you having participated in it; it's interesting how some people view this as better than white wall and some as worse)

Using the white wall as a benchmark my friend and I came up with many other situations and made this a sort of a mental game. You pretty much get an idea of how much money a person will take to be willing to endure various types of suffering.

I'll try to post some soon. But some are really gross, crude, embarrassing. It started feeling like we were playing mental Fear Factor towards the end. But a lot worse.

Some examples include corporeal pain, mental harrasement, eating disgusting stuff, permanent disability of different kinds, and up to ideas of impressive imaginations. (a good one was, instead of white wall, you simply go through a stasis of sort, so that you close your eyes and open your eyes again, one year has passed without you having participated in it; it's interesting how some people view this as better than white wall and some as worse)

I think this stuff sounds interesting.

Using the white wall as a benchmark my friend and I came up with many other situations and made this a sort of a mental game. You pretty much get an idea of how much money a person will take to be willing to endure various types of suffering.

Your signature is that you despise contradictions. Isn't that a form of suffering? Any unresolved conflict in the data makes you suffer? How much money will it take to induce you to leave a contradiction unresolved and not try to solve it?

I don't think it is possible to imagine a form of suffering that does not fall into one of three categories: frustrated desire, unavoided revulsion, or delusion. (Revulsion is defined broadly as including pain and nausea and itching and so on and delusion only covers suffering of the other two types that are imagined rather than real).

Your signature is that you despise contradictions. Isn't that a form of suffering? Any unresolved conflict in the data makes you suffer? How much money will it take to induce you to leave a contradiction unresolved and not try to solve it?

I don't think it is possible to imagine a form of suffering that does not fall into one of three categories: frustrated desire, unavoided revulsion, or delusion. (Revulsion is defined broadly as including pain and nausea and itching and so on and delusion only covers suffering of the other two types that are imagined rather than real).
The "contradiction" in my signature refers to those that result from inappropriate use of logic. For example commercials, arguments, theories/comments...etc. seem on a regular basis that are stupid or don't make sense when you apply some logic to it. Just because I don't like those does not mean it makes me suffer.

On the other hand, something that is naturally contradictionary--a paradox--is a subject of fascination, not necessarily frustration, to me. That would not be what my signature is referring to.