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dharmabum
04-01-2007, 03:51 PM
Bernie Kerik, Guliani's Mob-Connected buddy (http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/3/30/4245/51524), shares the same qualifications for high offices as Rudy. They both bumbled their way to ground zero on 9-11 and happened to be standing there for reporters to shove microphones into their faces.

That is apparently all it takes to be a "hero" these days.

That was enough for Rudy to nominate him for Homeland Security chief... for about 5 minutes.

http://static.flickr.com/66/178168966_0b833340d7_m.jpg

Ex-Partner Of Giuliani May Face Charges (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/30/AR2007033002425.html?hpid=topnews)
Kerik Counts Said To Include Deception During Cabinet Bid

By John Solomon and Matthew Mosk
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, March 31, 2007; Page A01

Federal prosecutors have told Bernard B. Kerik, whose nomination as homeland security secretary in 2004 ended in scandal, that he is likely to be charged with several felonies, including tax evasion and conspiracy to commit wiretapping.

Kerik's indictment could set the stage for a courtroom battle that would draw attention to Kerik's extensive business and political dealings with former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, who personally recommended him to President Bush for the Cabinet. Giuliani, the front-runner for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination according to most polls, later called the recommendation a mistake.

Kerik rose from being a warden and police detective to become Giuliani's campaign security adviser, corrections chief, police commissioner and eventual partner in Giuliani-Kerik, a security arm of Giuliani Partners, which Giuliani established after leaving office in 2001. Kerik resigned his positions in Giuliani's firm after he was nominated to the homeland security job.

The former mayor is not in any legal jeopardy, according to legal sources directly familiar with the investigation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the inquiry is ongoing. He and his consulting firm have cooperated in the FBI's long-running investigation of Kerik.

During a recent meeting, federal prosecutors told Kerik's attorneys that they are preparing to charge Kerik with filing false information to the government when Bush nominated him to the Cabinet, according to the legal sources.

Prosecutors are also prepared to charge Kerik with violating federal tax laws, alleging that he did not declare on his tax returns gifts he received while serving as New York's corrections commissioner, including costly renovations to an apartment he had bought, the sources said. The FBI is investigating loans Kerik received while he was in private business with Giuliani, the sources said, as well as information Kerik had omitted from a mortgage application.

DarkFantasy96
04-01-2007, 05:30 PM
Dang, I thought this was going to be about Rudy in drag. Oh well.

Anyways, yeah, I always knew Giuliani was a sleazeball.

Lungdop Philing
04-01-2007, 06:52 PM
Rudy G. is toast ... and while I'm at it ... so is McCain

mikezila
04-01-2007, 07:03 PM
Rudy G. is toast ... and while I'm at it ... so is McCain
if Hillary can survive covering up a rape her husband committed, Rudy would have to get caught roasting crack babies over a drum of stolen Iraqi oil for him to get embarrassed enough to withdraw.

not that i think he'll get his party's nomination, but i think he'll make it to Iowa.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/broaddrick022599.htm

http://www.deletehillary.com/rape.htm

dharmabum
04-01-2007, 08:40 PM
if Hillary can survive covering up a rape her husband committed

??? :confused:

Freethinker
04-01-2007, 09:50 PM
...Rudy would have to get caught roasting crack babies over a drum of stolen Iraqi oil for him to get embarrassed enough to withdraw.

Being that Mr Giuliani is a Republican, I'd say you're absolutely correct.

The precedent is well known.

Before he began a run for the presidency, George Bush was a known cocaine user, was AWOL from the service and was involved in numerous crooked dealings in Texas, and the subservient Corporate Press never called enough attention to any of it that he had to withdraw.

Rudy is perfectly safe from being hounded out of the race by the Media in this country.....no matter what is revealed about him.

mikezila
04-01-2007, 10:04 PM
Being that Mr Giuliani is a Republican, I'd say you're absolutely correct.

The precedent is well known.

Before he began a run for the presidency, George Bush was a known cocaine user, was AWOL from the service and was involved in numerous crooked dealings in Texas, and the subservient Corporate Press never called enough attention to any of it that he had to withdraw.

Rudy is perfectly safe from being hounded out of the race by the Media in this country.....no matter what is revealed about him.
crooked, or just not very good?

CarbonBasedLife
04-01-2007, 10:39 PM
if Hillary can survive covering up a rape her husband committed, Rudy would have to get caught roasting crack babies over a drum of stolen Iraqi oil for him to get embarrassed enough to withdraw.

not that i think he'll get his party's nomination, but i think he'll make it to Iowa.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/broaddrick022599.htm

http://www.deletehillary.com/rape.htm

I'm sure "deletehillary.com" is a great, non-biased source for information that doesn't have any agenda other than reporting facts.

Lungdop Philing
04-01-2007, 10:51 PM
Rudy would have to get caught roasting crack babies over a drum of stolen Iraqi oil for him to get embarrassed enough to withdraw.


Nope -- the evangelicals and the homophobes hate Rudy. He's done. PERIOD.

Thislin
04-01-2007, 10:53 PM
Nope -- the evangelicals and the homophobes hate Rudy. He's done. PERIOD.
The polls seem to say otherwise; he is now well ahead among likely Republican voters in all the key states.

Although the extreme right doesn't like him, lots of Republicans who are more moderate love him. In politics the center usually prevails in two-person races.

mikezila
04-01-2007, 10:59 PM
Nope -- the evangelicals and the homophobes hate Rudy. He's done. PERIOD.
why would they hate him? him dressing in drag was satire, not a life style choice:rolleyes:

dharmabum
04-02-2007, 05:08 PM
I'm sure "deletehillary.com" is a great, non-biased source for information that doesn't have any agenda other than reporting facts.

I am sure Mikezila thinks so.

500lbguerilla
04-02-2007, 05:10 PM
if Hillary can survive covering up a rape her husband committed, 1st that would be something her husband did, if it happened. Secondly it wouldn't matter in todays shitty politcal climate. Arnold got in with multiple credible rape accusations.

Waco and Vince Foster seem like a more damaging aspect but even that isn't in style anymore. Rightwingers just have to much to be mad and whine about...

mikezila
04-02-2007, 06:29 PM
I'm sure "deletehillary.com" is a great, non-biased source for information that doesn't have any agenda other than reporting facts.
and the washington post is part of the vast right wing conspiracy?:confused:

dharmabum
04-02-2007, 06:31 PM
and the washington post is part of the vast right wing conspiracy?:confused:

You are thinking of the Moonie paper, the Washington Times.

Lungdop Philing
04-02-2007, 06:40 PM
The polls seem to say otherwise; he is now well ahead among likely Republican voters in all the key states.

Although the extreme right doesn't like him, lots of Republicans who are more moderate love him. In politics the center usually prevails in two-person races.

No way -- if the republican don't get the xtian vote and homophobe vote ... they have absolutely no chance of winning. There just isn't enough nascar folks around to pull it off.

In a nutshell - it boils down on the republican side, to white males (and some females) against the rest of the country on the dem side and to get those white males, they will have to toss Rudy. That's why you see Thompson throwing his hat in the ring ... he's the defacto none of the above candidate until they figure out who the heck they can run that can take the religious right and keep the middle.

Polls? Are they the same ones that told us (guaranteed us) the republicans would hold the senate in '06 and not lose many seats in the house? Those polls?