Littlejoe, you are a good kid. You came from a bad place. Now you are in a good place with people who deserve you. They love you. Just because your mom made mistakes does not mean you will.

Bad and good run in all families littlejoe. It all comes down to making choices for ourself and having someone to support us.

I am glad you are in a safe place and around people who care about you and will help you to make good choices. Sometimes life is hard. Harder than it ever should be for one so young. But good things happen all the time and they will for you too.
its nice here n im like my foster parents. they r nice. i just thought if bad was in mom then its in me n ill be bad when im older like mom.now i c. thank u ma'am n u 2 vilepagan. :)

Here we go, all of these people were "not" raised by their natural parents.
And this is a very short list, there are tens of thousands more who are just as successfull if not more.


Babe Ruth, Famous Baseball Player,
Armstrong, Louis, African-American musician,
Boone, Daniel, American soldier and explorer,
Cain, Dean, American actor,
Callahan, John, American cartoonist,
Capote, Truman, American author,
Carver, George Washington, African-American chemist and educator,
Chaplin, Charlie and Sydney, British-American actors,
Chisholm, Colin, American writer,
Clinton, Bill, President of the USA,
Cole, George, British actor,
Danson, Ted, American actor,
Dean, James, American actor,
Ellison, Larry, US software executive,
Ford, Gerald R., President of the USA,
Hoover, Herbert Clark, President of the USA,
Jackson, Andrew, President of the USA,
McQueen, Steve, American actor,
Nelson, Willie, American singer,
Poe, Edgar Allan, American author,
Dave Thomas, owner and founder of the Wendy's Restaurant chain,
Scott, George, Famous boxer,
Thomson, John, British Actor,
Tolkien, J.R.R., Lord of the Rings,
Wallace, Edgar, British Aurther,
Little Richard, American muscian,
Brosnan, Pierce, Irish, British actor,
Brown, James, African-American musician,

Yes,in actuality,a HUGE contingent of Great Famous People,have
grown up,either Orphaned or with a Parent who deserted the home.
Winston Churchill's Mother,who never showed him much Love,
was considered a Floozy,if not Loose woman {Prostitute}.
Little Winston had to grow up,with a Mommy who seldom
gave Love or was a nurturer.

" All men naturally hate each other. "
-- Pascal ' Pensees' {1670} #210

Here we go, all of these people were "not" raised by their natural parents.
And this is a very short list, there are tens of thousands more who are just as successfull if not more.


Babe Ruth, Famous Baseball Player,
Armstrong, Louis, African-American musician,
Boone, Daniel, American soldier and explorer,
Cain, Dean, American actor,
Callahan, John, American cartoonist,
Capote, Truman, American author,
Carver, George Washington, African-American chemist and educator,
Chaplin, Charlie and Sydney, British-American actors,
Chisholm, Colin, American writer,
Clinton, Bill, President of the USA,
Cole, George, British actor,
Danson, Ted, American actor,
Dean, James, American actor,
Ellison, Larry, US software executive,
Ford, Gerald R., President of the USA,
Hoover, Herbert Clark, President of the USA,
Jackson, Andrew, President of the USA,
McQueen, Steve, American actor,
Nelson, Willie, American singer,
Poe, Edgar Allan, American author,
Dave Thomas, owner and founder of the Wendy's Restaurant chain,
Scott, George, Famous boxer,
Thomson, John, British Actor,
Tolkien, J.R.R., Lord of the Rings,
Wallace, Edgar, British Aurther,
Little Richard, American muscian,
Brosnan, Pierce, Irish, British actor,
Brown, James, African-American musician,
OMG George Washington Carver was like my hero in elementary school. I did so many reports and projects about him, I can't even remember how many.

Dave Thomas, owner and founder of the Wendy's Restaurant chain,
Screw the rest of the list, it's freakin' Dave Thomas!

its nice here n im like my foster parents. they r nice. i just thought if bad was in mom then its in me n ill be bad when im older like mom.now i c. thank u ma'am n u 2 vilepagan. :)
Genes are a funny thing--we don't become our parents, but a mix of our parents and our grandparents and so on back through time (each generation back having its influence cut in half).

Ben Franklin came from a large family (I think he was 20th out of 22 but that is probably not exactly right) of less the respectable people, but look at what genetics did to him. He certainly did not get his wisdom and compassion and practical sense from his parents--at least not so as you would see. Nor did he get them from his upbringing.

Screw the rest of the list, it's freakin' Dave Thomas!


Dave Thomas is the man.
I use to like his chili, the Jr Bacon Cheese burgers are still good.

Dave Thomas is the man.
I use to like his chili, the Jr Bacon Cheese burgers are still good.
Me too, as long as there are no fingers in it. :-P

Dave Thomas is the man.
Was. :( R.I.P. Dave.

Twin studies where the twins are reared apart have tended to demonstrate this over and over--identical twins turn out the same regardless; fraternal twins don't.


Wait, I know the answer to this one....FALSE!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Twin-concordances.jpg

Me too, as long as there are no fingers in it. :-P
you have to bring your own fingers...or a friend's:matrix:

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/food/chili.asp

Wait, I know the answer to this one....FALSE!


Yea, sure. Read these and then see how sure you are my statement is "false." I could get a lot more--my wife is a psychologist.

Depression

Department of Psychological Medicine, University of Wales College of Medicine, Cardiff.
We studied a series of twins systematically ascertained through 214 probands (84 monozygotic, 130 dizygotic) who had had one or more episodes of hospital-treated major depression. A variety of definitions of depression were applied to the co-twins all of which resulted in (a) markedly higher rates of disorder than are found in the general population, (b) significantly higher monozygotic than dizygotic concordance.

Homosexuality

Frederick L. Whitam1, Milton Diamond2 http://www.springerlink.com/images/contact.gif and James Martin1
(1) Department of Sociology, Arizona State University, 85287-2101 Tempe, Arizona, USA(2) Department of Anatomy and Reproductive Biology, John A. Burns School of Medicine, University of Hawaii, 1951 East-West Road, 96822 Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

Abstract Twin pairs in which at least one twin is homosexual were solicited through announcements in the gay press and personal referrals from 1980 to the present. An 18-page questionnaire on the http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/xxlarge8220.gifsexuality of twinshttp://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/xxlarge8221.gif was filled out by one or both twins. Thirty-eight pairs of monozygotic twins (34 male pairs and 4 female pairs) were found to have a concordance rate of 65.8% for homosexual orientation. Twenty-three pairs of dizygotic twins were found to have a concordance rate of 30.4% for homosexual orientation. In addition, three sets of triplets were obtained. Two sets contained a pair of monozygotic twins concordant for sexual orientation with the third triplet dizygotic and discordant for homosexual orientation. A third triplet set was monozygotic with all three concordant for homosexual orientation. These findings are interpreted as supporting the argument for a biological basis in sexual orientation.

Frederick L. Whitam1, Milton Diamond2 http://www.springerlink.com/images/contact.gif and James Martin1
(1) Department of Sociology, Arizona State University, 85287-2101 Tempe, Arizona, USA(2) Department of Anatomy and Reproductive Biology, John A. Burns School of Medicine, University of Hawaii, 1951 East-West Road, 96822 Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
Abstract Twin pairs in which at least one twin is homosexual were solicited through announcements in the gay press and personal referrals from 1980 to the present. An 18-page questionnaire on the http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/xxlarge8220.gifsexuality of twinshttp://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/xxlarge8221.gif was filled out by one or both twins. Thirty-eight pairs of monozygotic twins (34 male pairs and 4 female pairs) were found to have a concordance rate of 65.8% for homosexual orientation. Twenty-three pairs of dizygotic twins were found to have a concordance rate of 30.4% for homosexual orientation. In addition, three sets of triplets were obtained. Two sets contained a pair of monozygotic twins concordant for sexual orientation with the third triplet dizygotic and discordant for homosexual orientation. A third triplet set was monozygotic with all three concordant for homosexual orientation. These findings are interpreted as supporting the argument for a biological basis in sexual orientation.

A Twin Study of Chronic Fatigue

Dedra Buchwald, MD, Richard Herrell, PhD, Suzanne Ashton, BS, Megan Belcourt, BS, Karen Schmaling, PhD, Patrick Sullivan, MD, Michael Neale, PhD and Jack Goldberg, PhD
From the Departments of Medicine (D.B., S.A., M.B.) and Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences (K.S.), University of Washington, Seattle, WA; the Division of Epidemiology–Biostatistics (J.G., R.H.), University of Illinois, Chicago, IL; and the Virginia Institute for Psychiatric and Behavioral Genetics (P.S., M.N.), Virginia Commonwealth University, Richmond, VA.
Address reprint requests to: Dedra Buchwald, MD, Harborview Medical Center, 325 9th Ave., Box 359780, Seattle, WA 98104. Email: dedra@u.washington.edu (dedra@u.washington.edu)
OBJECTIVE: The etiology of chronic fatigue syndrome is unknown, but genetic influences may be important in its expression. Our objective was to assess the role of genetic and environmental factors in unexplained chronic fatigue.
METHODS: A classic twin study was conducted using 146 female-female twin pairs, of whom at least one member reported <IMG alt=">=" src="http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/math/ge.gif" border=0>6 months of fatigue. After completing questionnaires on symptoms, zygosity, physical health, and a psychiatric interview, twins were classified using three increasingly stringent definitions: 1) chronic fatigue for <IMG alt=">=" src="http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/math/ge.gif" border=0>6 months, 2) chronic fatigue not explained by exclusionary medical conditions, and 3) idiopathic chronic fatigue not explained by medical or psychiatric exclusionary criteria of the chronic fatigue syndrome case definition. Concordance rates in monozygotic and dizygotic twins were calculated for each fatigue definition along with estimates of the relative magnitude of genetic and environmental influences on chronic fatigue. RESULTS: The concordance rate was higher in monozygotic than dizygotic twins for each definition of chronic fatigue. For idiopathic chronic fatigue, the concordance rates were 55% in monozygotic and 19% in dizygotic twins (p = .042). The estimated heritability in liability was 19% (95% confidence interval = 0–56) for chronic fatigue <IMG alt=">=" src="http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/math/ge.gif" border=0>6 months, 30% (95% confidence interval = 0–81) for chronic fatigue not explained by medical conditions, and 51% (95% confidence interval = 7–96) for idiopathic chronic fatigue.

you have to bring your own fingers...or a friend's:matrix:

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/food/chili.asp

Yeah unfortunately, I don't have anyone who loves me enough to lop off a finger or two so I can set up a law suit. It's a crying shame really.

Yeah unfortunately, I don't have anyone who loves me enough to lop off a finger or two so I can set up a law suit. It's a crying shame really.


Sounds like you need to find someone who hates you then.

Then there's the problem of whether they stop at a finger then.

I still wonder how they ever expected to win that case

Sounds like you need to find someone who hates you then.
Not possible! I'm just so loveable. :thumbs: