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gmsisko1
03-07-2007, 08:03 AM
SCOOTER LIBBY FOUND GUILTY
So Scooter Libby has been found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice. According to federal sentencing guidelines, he can expect to do 1 to 3 years in the slammer for lying about something he had no reason to lie about. And while Scooter Libby is in the can, Sandy Burglar, who essentially committed treason by stealing classified documents, roams free. Nice to know the real criminals are going to jail. Ahh .. .but there was a plea deal there. No telling what Libby could have gotten with a plea deal.
The mainstream media is treating this like everybody knows who Scooter Libby is. But if you went downtown in any major American city at lunchtime, I bet you'd not find 1 person out of 100 that could tell you what Scooter Libby's position was in the Bush Administration. The media and the Democrats are somehow making this out to be the "tip of the iceberg." The tip of what iceberg? No one else will be charged in this investigation and the case is closed. Big whoop. Sounds more like the iceberg has melted.
So Scooter Libby and his lawyers will now try and milk the appeal process so he can make it past the November 2008 election and grab his certain presidential pardon. In the meantime, taxpayers are stuck with the tab for the entire prosecution. By the way, the jury says they felt sorry for Scooter Libby, but still convicted him. I'd hate to see what their verdict would have been had they not felt sorry for him.
How do I feel about the verdict? The jury felt that he lied, then the verdict is proper. If it was a jury assembled of Democrat sycophants eager to nail the Bush administration, we have a problem. I wasn't there. I didn't listen to the testimony. I didn't see the exhibits, so I can't say whether the verdict is proper or not. You lie under oath, you get charged. That is as it should be. Ditto for lying to investigators. I only wish we could have nailed the Clintons for their similarly faulty memories.
By: Boortz
sedan
03-07-2007, 08:10 PM
By the way, the jury says they felt sorry for Scooter Libby, but still convicted him. I'd hate to see what their verdict would have been had they not felt sorry for him.Hmmm ...
Really really really guilty?
dharmabum
03-07-2007, 08:17 PM
Its too bad that justice isn't really going to be done.
They out an undercover CIA agent and then throw Libby under the bus with the promise of a future pardon.
If they get away with this they can get away with anything.
Brooks
03-07-2007, 08:21 PM
They out an undercover CIA agent and then throw Libby under the bus with the promise of a future pardon.
Who was the undercover CIA Agent?
Who is "they"? Richard Armitage?
dharmabum
03-07-2007, 08:26 PM
Who was the undercover CIA Agent?
Who is "they"? Richard Armitage?
If you don't know by now then there is no hope for you.
I suspect you are just trying to be coy.
Darth Be'lal
03-07-2007, 08:52 PM
How often must people be reminded that CIA agents who wish to remain anonymous do NOT get photographed with their husbands in "Vanity Fair" magazine?
dharmabum
03-07-2007, 08:54 PM
How often must people be reminded that CIA agents who wish to remain anonymous do NOT get photographed with their husbands in "Vanity Fair" magazine?
Unless it is part of their cover as a executive of an international corporation.
:rolleyes:
Darth Be'lal
03-07-2007, 08:57 PM
Unless it is part of their cover as a executive of an international corporation.
:rolleyes:
Or joke fodder for second rate posters, dammit.
dharmabum
03-07-2007, 08:59 PM
Or joke fodder for second rate posters, dammit.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Work hard and maybe someday you will rise above second rate.
"dammit" LOL!
:lolhit:
Cataletyc
03-07-2007, 10:50 PM
How often must people be reminded that CIA agents who wish to remain anonymous do NOT get photographed with their husbands in "Vanity Fair" magazine?
I believe that was AFTER she had been outed by her government.
Darth Be'lal
03-07-2007, 11:35 PM
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Work hard and maybe someday you will rise above second rate.
"dammit" LOL!
:lolhit:
If you're lucky, dharmabum, you're going to be embarassed by the ignorance of your earlier postings, dammit.
Brooks
03-08-2007, 12:10 AM
If you don't know by now then there is no hope for you.
I suspect you are just trying to be coy.My too subtle point is that she was not a covert operative.
An Army general, two Washington reporters and even Andrea Mitchell from NBC have stated that Wilson used to introduce Superspy as "my CIA wife" at cocktail parties. Andrea Mitchell was surprised that anyone in Washington didn't already know.
If she was covert, would he have risked her life by routinely exposing her this way?
dharmabum
03-08-2007, 01:10 AM
My too subtle point is that she was not a covert operative.
And this shows the depth to which you are mired in partisan propaganda and detatched from reality.
Is that subtle enough for you? :)
Firstly, the illogic of it is glaring, if a covert operative was not outted there would have been no investigation into her outting.
Secondly, the CIA said she was Covert. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11179719/site/newsweek/) The Judge in this case also agreed she was covert.
Plame's Identity Marked As Secret (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/20/AR2005072002517.html)
I am sure the rightwing echo chamber is now able to find or fabricate a million rightwing dittoheads who are willing to claim that they knew about Valerie Plame's covert status years ago.
You shouldn't believe everything you read.
Pay more attention to your sources.
dharmabum
03-08-2007, 01:11 AM
If you're lucky, dharmabum, you're going to be embarassed by the ignorance of your earlier postings, dammit.
Nope. I don't think so, second rater.
You have no clue what you are talking about as usual.
Brooks
03-08-2007, 01:15 AM
They why wasn't anyone charged. God knows Fitzgerald was extremely anxious to bring such a charge.
There are conflicting stories as to her status, this thirteen month article notwithstanding.
If your article is accurate, then Joe Wilson should also be brought up on charges.
dharmabum
03-08-2007, 01:19 AM
They why wasn't anyone charged.
No, it is because it is very hard to prove that they did it intentionally.
God knows Fitzgerald was extremely anxious to bring such a charge.
Oh yeah, cause everyone expected a Republican to really prosecute this to the fullest extent of the law. :rolleyes:
Gimme a break, Brooks.
There are conflicting stories as to her status,
Only if you believe the Rightwing Echo Chamber and drink their kool-aid.
Anyone who has a clue knows better.
That explains you.
Brooks
03-08-2007, 02:06 AM
Oh yeah, cause everyone expected a Republican to really prosecute this to the fullest extent of the law. :rolleyes:
By Republican do you mean Fitzgerald who has indicted sixty one Republicans and two Democrats? That Republican?
waldo
03-08-2007, 06:02 AM
No, it is because it is very hard to prove that they did it intentionally.
Oh yeah, cause everyone expected a Republican to really prosecute this to the fullest extent of the law. :rolleyes:
Gimme a break, Brooks.
Only if you believe the Rightwing Echo Chamber and drink their kool-aid.
Anyone who has a clue knows better.
That explains you.
Would you like some cheese?
F. de Marzipan
03-08-2007, 02:43 PM
They why wasn't anyone charged. God knows Fitzgerald was extremely anxious to bring such a charge.
Fitzgerald wasn't given that job to do. His sole task was to investigate whether or not Scooter Libby lied to the Grand Jury and to the FBI.
Turns out Scooter did.
waldo
03-08-2007, 02:56 PM
Fitzgerald wasn't given that job to do. His sole task was to investigate whether or not Scooter Libby lied to the Grand Jury and to the FBI.
Turns out Scooter did.
Huh???
Fitzgerald''s job was to determine is someone had knowingly outed a covert person. In the course of that investigation libby was called before the grand jury. Libby only came before a grand jury because fitzgerald put him there. In order for your statement to be correct libby would have had to have testified before fitzgerald was appointed.
dharmabum
03-08-2007, 06:28 PM
Would you like some cheese?
Is that the best you've got?
You lose.
:lolhit:
Brooks
03-08-2007, 07:34 PM
Fitzgerald wasn't given that job to do. His sole task was to investigate whether or not Scooter Libby lied to the Grand Jury and to the FBI.
Turns out Scooter did.I think that was his sole task for this trial, but his task in the overall investigation was larger.