This is what Hillary sounds like when she speaks to an audience in a black southern church.
She is unembarassable.

http://www.ifilm.com/profile/breitbart/video/2829104

Hillary Scarlett O'Hara Clinton:




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This is what Hillary sounds like when she speaks to an audience in a black southern church.
She is unembarassable.

http://www.ifilm.com/profile/breitbart/video/2829104
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Hillary is whatever people want her to be at a particular time and in a particular place. She has no core to her being.

she is getting beat down by Obama. It wouldnt suprise me if something happened to poor obama that took him out of the race and left hillary as the only on to vote for. Things like that seem to happen a lot to opponents of the Clintons.

Democracy at work

Senator Clinton was reciting a hymn, people. :rolleyes:

Note, please, that Barak Obama also adopted a bit of a twang in his speech on the same day, in the same city.

Here's the deal: they've both lived in the South. I was born in Texas, but haven't lived there since I was 11. Put me in a room full of Texans and the twang returns instantly, whether I want it to or not.

This attack on Clinton is a non-starter.

Feel sorry for Obama, hes no chance

My mom grew up in rural Florida back before that area was a tourist destination, and she still speaks with a southern accent when she's drunk.... Maybe Hil was just drinking a bit. :D

Does she drink

Does she drink
Who knows?

Hope she can drink from the bottle as good as Monica

My mom grew up in rural Florida back before that area was a tourist destination, and she still speaks with a southern accent when she's drunk.... Maybe Hil was just drinking a bit. :D
Wow, DF - my mom was a drunk from southern Florida, too. She used to do the exact same thing when she was wasted. Funny you should say that....

My mom is from central Florida, but sure. :)

Hillary is whatever people want her to be at a particular time and in a particular place. She has no core to her being.You don't believe her accent, or that her favorite team is the Yankees when running for NY Senator, or that she wanted to adopt a child, or that she may be Jewish when running for NY Senator, or that she wanted to join the Marines, or that she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary (several years before he climbed Mount Everest)?

What kind of a partisan skeptic are you?

I have known only two or three legitimate sociopaths in my life. (Soul-less individuals with no conscience, and no remorse.) One of them later spent a great deal of time in prison, and the other two were drummed out of the military for psychological reasons.

They had just a few things in common, did these sociopaths:

1. They lied pathologically; they often lied when the truth would serve them better.

2. They were totally self-serving.

3. They couldn't understand why the rest of the world couldn't see things their way.

and

4. They shifted their personae and accent very smoothly, in order to impress and woo.


You can draw your own conclusions about Hillary Clinton, I guess.

I have a lot of problems with Hillary Clinton, and almost certainly will not vote for her. However, the problems are disagreemnts about policy. I do not question her competence or morals. You are entirely below the belt.

I'm looking for anti-drug matter to her.

Anti-drug
1.Drinking water about 1 litter(0.26gallon) per 10kilogram(2.2lb) of body weight per day.
2.Taking supplement of vitamin C.
3.Drinking coffre a little.(green tea is better)
About 2 weeks make aborted taking drug.

You can draw your own conclusions about Hillary Clinton, I guess.
I think most of us already have. Unfortunately, some of us here haven't weighed out the obvious.

I mistook on calculation...
10kilogram(2.2lb) → 10kilogram(22lb)

Perhaps it need more water a little. About 0.35gallon per 22lb per day.

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ROFL!

You thought that was funny? No offense, Paul, but the only thing worth laughing at was Hillary's southern drawl. Even if she was reciting a particular hymn (a funny concept, for sure), she still made a mockery of herself in the process. In short, if that woman were splashed with Holy Water, I'm guessing it would sizzle.

It was funny, you are just too wrapped up in hating Hillary to notice.

Actually, come to think of it, it wasn't that bad. ;)

By the time election day rolls around I'm willing to bet that neither jr senator from ny or her current front running competitor are on the ballot.

I have a lot of problems with Hillary Clinton, and almost certainly will not vote for her. However, the problems are disagreemnts about policy. I do not question her competence or morals. You are entirely below the belt.

No sir, I am not.

I have made a careful and considered study of Hillary Clinton, as I have all the other leading candidates.

I am a lifetime student of psychology, and I unfortunately suffered at the hands of one of the sociopaths described above; I know what I am talking about. 'Mrs.' Clinton displays profoundly socio-pathological tendencies, and I will NOT wait until after she is elected President to play arm-chair quarterback and criticize the decisions of all those who helped to put her in a position of power and authority.

This is not about Democrats and Republicans, libs and conservatives, or even personal preference. The woman has no business presuming to take the reins of this country.

Guys guys, I aint a big fan of the Republicans, as you all know, I aint that fussed on Hilary Clinton either, what I will say tho is this, IMO Hilary will become the first woman President, why, because of circumstance, by this I mean, take a look at the Republican hopefuls, even if there was one who stuck out from the pack, he'd have a hard job turning the electorate who seem pissed off with the present Administration. Now, look at the Democrats, its a two horse race, Clinton v Obama, and when it comes to it, a lot of people who dont vote Democrat and dont like Clinton will vote for her, just to keep Obama out.
That said, I enjoy rubbing Brooks up, leave me alone.

why would people want to keep obama out? I think I may switch to dem so I can vote in the CA primary for Obama. If hitlery wins, I will move out of the country and live with all the libs who said they would move saw when Bush won. oh wait, none of them left.

Ive a spare room Trav, we can drink some, do the Irish thing, and not talk politics.
Why would people want to keep Obama out,wrong shade of white.

Paul, hilary is about as southern as you are. Thing is - she's a polished, chameleon like politician - out for herself alone. Might be fun to get her drinking some wiskey, just to see what happens.

Yes I appreciate that, but shes a cold calculated woman,which is a very dangerous thing.

All the more reason to pour a jug of wiskey into her.

Thats playing with fire.

Still might be fun. Imagine the stories that might come out about that husband of hers.

That said, I enjoy rubbing Brooks up, leave me alone.Dear God, I hope this means something else in Ireland.

Dear God, I hope this means something else in Ireland.

I'm sure it means something fairly innocent ... like "getting your goat" or similar.

No sir, I am not.

I have made a careful and considered study of Hillary Clinton, as I have all the other leading candidates.

I am a lifetime student of psychology, and I unfortunately suffered at the hands of one of the sociopaths described above; I know what I am talking about. 'Mrs.' Clinton displays profoundly socio-pathological tendencies, and I will NOT wait until after she is elected President to play arm-chair quarterback and criticize the decisions of all those who helped to put her in a position of power and authority.

This is not about Democrats and Republicans, libs and conservatives, or even personal preference. The woman has no business presuming to take the reins of this country.

I find it amazing that you claim a major political candidate and officeholder is a sociopath. For all your claims to know about psychology, you seem to overlook that sociopathy would have become manifest for anyone in the public eye as she is.

I would further point out that not only are you arm-chairing her, you are doing it without direct access. Your technique is absurd and your claims are worse and your politics is that of the gutter.

For representative democracy to work, it is necessary that the various viewpoints respect each other. I know sometimes the Democrats are just as bad, claiming Bush is a liar or that he stole the election, but one bad turn does not justify another.

Yes I appreciate that, but shes a cold calculated woman,which is a very dangerous thing.

How in Hell could you know this? Have you read her book, "It Takes a Village?" This sounded to me as though she is idealistic, warm, concerned with children, and so on. (In fact, in my opinion, too simplistic rather than calculating, in her thinking--a fairly typical "liberal" who imagines government can solve problems).

I would further point out that not only are you arm-chairing her, you are doing it without direct access.
With Sparky's record on controversial female public figures, I wouldn't be surprised if he armchaired her quite frequently at some point in time. Accessing, you know, her politics, among other things.

Guys guys, I aint a big fan of the Republicans, as you all know, I aint that fussed on Hilary Clinton either, what I will say tho is this, IMO Hilary will become the first woman President, why, because of circumstance, by this I mean, take a look at the Republican hopefuls, even if there was one who stuck out from the pack, he'd have a hard job turning the electorate who seem pissed off with the present Administration. Now, look at the Democrats, its a two horse race, Clinton v Obama, and when it comes to it, a lot of people who dont vote Democrat and dont like Clinton will vote for her, just to keep Obama out.
That said, I enjoy rubbing Brooks up, leave me alone.

I would not be so sure Mrs. Clinton is a shoe-in. I think any of the three leading Republican candidates could easily beat her if they can keep the normal Republican base in line and move to the center--something that may not be too difficult if Clinton is the Democratic nominee. She just has too much baggage.

No sir, I am not.

I have made a careful and considered study of Hillary Clinton, as I have all the other leading candidates.

I am a lifetime student of psychology, and I unfortunately suffered at the hands of one of the sociopaths described above; I know what I am talking about. 'Mrs.' Clinton displays profoundly socio-pathological tendencies, and I will NOT wait until after she is elected President to play arm-chair quarterback and criticize the decisions of all those who helped to put her in a position of power and authority.

This is not about Democrats and Republicans, libs and conservatives, or even personal preference. The woman has no business presuming to take the reins of this country.
I got to ask, how does Bush stand up under the same microscope?

Haha, steady Brooks, your safe. Rubbing you up, ah, 'winding you up', 'keeping you going', I know this explanation will upset you, but Im sorry,Im not interested!

How in Hell could you know this? Have you read her book, "It Takes a Village?" This sounded to me as though she is idealistic, warm, concerned with children, and so on. (In fact, in my opinion, too simplistic rather than calculating, in her thinking--a fairly typical "liberal" who imagines government can solve problems).
Like I said,calculated. As for her book, I'll read it if someone lends me it, I aint financing her campaign

I got to ask, how does Bush stand up under the same microscope?

I'd say that Kurt Vonnegut hit the nail on the head, when he noted .......

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"George W Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography, plus not-so-closeted white supremacists, aka Christians, and plus, most frighteningly, psychopathic personalities, or PPs, the medical term for smart, personable people who have no consciences. To say somebody is a PP is to make a perfectly respectable diagnosis, like saying he or she has appendicitis or athlete's foot. The classic medical text on psychopathic personalities is The Mask of Sanity by Dr Hervey Cleckley, a clinical professor of psychiatry at the Medical College of Georgia, published in 1941. Read it! Some people are born deaf, some are born blind or whatever, and this book is about congenitally defective human beings of a sort that is making this whole country and many other parts of the planet go completely haywire nowadays. These were people born without consciences, and suddenly they are taking charge of everything. Psychopathic personalities are presentable, they know full well the suffering their actions may cause others, but they do not care. They cannot care because they are nuts. They have a screw loose!

They have taken charge. They have taken charge of communications and the schools, so we might as well be Poland under occupation. They might have felt that taking our country into an endless war was simply something decisive to do. What has allowed so many PPs to rise so high in corporations, and now in government, is that they are so decisive. They are going to do something every fuckin' day and they are not afraid. Unlike normal people, they are never filled with doubts, for the simple reason that they don't give a fuck what happens next. Simply can't. Do this! Do that! Mobilise the reserves! Privatise the public schools! Attack Iraq! Cut health care! Tap everybody's telephone! Cut taxes on the rich! Build a trillion-dollar missile shield! Fuck habeas corpus and the Sierra Club and In These Times, and kiss my ass! There is a tragic flaw in our precious Constitution, and I don't know what can be done to fix it." ---- KURT VONNEGUT

Sorry FT.. i stopped reading when it said white supremacists were christians... because we all know christianity is all about hating black people! LOL

No hillary speaking in that little drawl is like Jamie Kennedy on Malibu's most wanted.. they both sucked and nobody is laughing.

I got to ask, how does Bush stand up under the same microscope?

G W Bush, in my observation, is a sane & centered (though thoroughly-flawed) individual. His psychology is characterized by his relationships with friends and family (he's extremely loyal), his integrity & tenacity, and his ambition. He is a highly-political animal, though he's no politician. Bush will stick to his guns, but is stubborn to a fault. He's a leader not a follower, and his biggest flaw in personality (though not necessarily character) is that he's frequently unable to discern when he's being offered bad advice by his advisors. A regime-builder in the mold of Reagan, though without Reagan's gifts. A compelling public speaker, but a clumsy communicator when forced to stumble off-subject and off the script.

More to the point of the original topic; Hillary's shape-shifting and shamelessly adopting a southern black accent last week?

Bush has shown remarkable consistency in his delivery, his personae, and his down-home 'country boy' accent, regardless of the audience.
Love him or hate him, he would never resort to speaking in 'uggs' and smoke signals when addressing a Native American audience.
Somehow I suspect that Hillary would.

She can't stop herself.

I'd say that Kurt Vonnegut hit the nail on the head, when he noted .......

It appears Kurt Vonnegut likes democracy only when people vote his way. This is cry-baby politics.

In other words your analysis of a politician is based on their politics, not on any reality.

Politicians cannot be assessed by the personality traits they project, nor the ones their enemies concoct. For a long as I can remember every Republican President has been loyal and sober and responsible according to Republicans while the same men have been clumsy and stupid according to the Democrats.

I figure if a person can get to that level, he has something going. Luck and family help, but lots of people have those.

Too many people vote on appearances--they like or don't like the was this one looks or that one sounds (sheesh don't get me going about Bill Clinton on that score) or maybe in one of those farces they call "debates," someone slips and makes a foot-in-mouth or someone else says something witty and on the mark (and well rehearsed), and this makes up their mind. It does make one wonder about Democracy.

What matters is policy. If you lean to the left, most of the time you will vote for the Democrat (unless the person is an airhead). If you lean to the right, most of the time you will vote for the Republican (unless the person is a dinosaur). Whether they are an airhead or a dinosaur depends on specific positions, not mannerisms and turns of phrase.

I'm sorry for losing track, but were you responding to my analysis of GW Bush and Hillary Clinton, or to FT and Kurt Vonnegut Jr.?

Because if it's the former and not the latter, I would take great offense at the notion that my "analysis of a politician is based on their politics, not on any reality."

I'm sorry for losing track, but were you responding to my analysis of GW Bush and Hillary Clinton, or to FT and Kurt Vonnegut Jr.?

Because if it's the former and not the latter, I would take great offense at the notion that my "analysis of a politician is based on their politics, not on any reality."

Your psychoanalysis is second hand, based on what you hear, not on direct interviews. It therefore is unreliable; not based in reality. I don't like to offend people, but I must say that to me, your whole approach is repugnant. You find mental problems in left-wingers and virtue in right-wingers. This is bias, and unreal.

I would recommend just assuming all politicians are competent and intelligent. They all also have arrived at their views the same way. In other words, the differences are legitimate.

Where politicians are dangerous is that they all have an extra dollop of personal ambition in their personalities, so that they self-select into this career. It is for this reason that I believe in term limits and "amateur" officeholders (not amateur in the sense of untrained, but amateur in the sense of not being professional office seekers.

G W Bush, in my observation, is a sane & centered (though thoroughly-flawed) individual. His psychology is characterized by his relationships with friends and family (he's extremely loyal), his integrity & tenacity, and his ambition. He is a highly-political animal, though he's no politician. Bush will stick to his guns, but is stubborn to a fault. He's a leader not a follower, and his biggest flaw in personality (though not necessarily character) is that he's frequently unable to discern when he's being offered bad advice by his advisors. A regime-builder in the mold of Reagan, though without Reagan's gifts. A compelling public speaker, but a clumsy communicator when forced to stumble off-subject and off the script.

More to the point of the original topic; Hillary's shape-shifting and shamelessly adopting a southern black accent last week?

Bush has shown remarkable consistency in his delivery, his personae, and his down-home 'country boy' accent, regardless of the audience.
Love him or hate him, he would never resort to speaking in 'uggs' and smoke signals when addressing a Native American audience.
Somehow I suspect that Hillary would.

She can't stop herself.
I would say that's a pretty fair assessment, Sparky. Although "compelling" doesn't really come to mind when describing his public speech-giving abilities. That aside, for the most part, I agree with you.

Well Sparky, I dont like Bush, but I would agree thats a reasonable profile of him.

G W Bush, in my observation, is a sane & centered (though thoroughly-flawed) individual. His psychology is characterized by his relationships with friends and family (he's extremely loyal), his integrity & tenacity, and his ambition. He is a highly-political animal, though he's no politician. Bush will stick to his guns, but is stubborn to a fault. He's a leader not a follower, and his biggest flaw in personality (though not necessarily character) is that he's frequently unable to discern when he's being offered bad advice by his advisors. A regime-builder in the mold of Reagan, though without Reagan's gifts. A compelling public speaker, but a clumsy communicator when forced to stumble off-subject and off the script.

More to the point of the original topic; Hillary's shape-shifting and shamelessly adopting a southern black accent last week?

Bush has shown remarkable consistency in his delivery, his personae, and his down-home 'country boy' accent, regardless of the audience.
Love him or hate him, he would never resort to speaking in 'uggs' and smoke signals when addressing a Native American audience.
Somehow I suspect that Hillary would.

She can't stop herself.

man your good! do me! do me!

Why Trav...

I didn't know you were one of........them. :D

Love him or hate him, he would never resort to speaking in 'uggs' and smoke signals when addressing a Native American audience.
Somehow I suspect that Hillary would.

Oh please. How often have we seen Bush attempt to speak Spanish when he's in South America? Monday night, Olbermann showed a clip of Bush giving a speech that was about 1/3 Spanglish and the rest was English. :rolleyes:

Pathetic, really.

She can't stop herself.

Apparently Mr. Bush can't, either.

Mr Bush is very fluent at saying ''You guys can work them fields for $3 an hour'', in Spanish.

Oh please. How often have we seen Bush attempt to speak Spanish when he's in South America? Monday night, Olbermann showed a clip of Bush giving a speech that was about 1/3 Spanglish and the rest was English. :rolleyes:
Yeah, the South Americans are MUCH better at speaking Spanish in North America than we are at speaking Spanish in South America. Wouldn't it be funny to see them try and speak English in North America? Wouldn't wanna break precedent though....

Yeah, the South Americans are MUCH better at speaking Spanish in North America than we are at speaking Spanish in South America. Wouldn't it be funny to see them try and speak English in North America? Wouldn't wanna break precedent though....

Sorry Prae, but that has absolutely nothing to do with Sparky's assertion that Bush is too fine a human being to pander to the crowd, whatever crowd it might be.

All politicians do it. Singling out Senator Clinton as an abuser of such things, while praising Bush for being "above the fray," so to speak, is pure horseshit.

Why Trav...

I didn't know you were one of........them. :D

LOL, that's not what I meant. not that there is anything wrong with that!

LOL, that's not what I meant. not that there is anything wrong with that!

shhhh you'll offend OD

I don't like to offend people, but I must say that to me, your whole approach is repugnant. You find mental problems in left-wingers and virtue in right-wingers. This is bias, and unreal.

Thislin,

Did you even read the Bush 'analysis' (or the postings on Hillary) all the way through?

I was not entirely complementary of the President, and I made it quite clear that my criticism of Hillary Clinton wasn't a matter of party affiliation.

I am apolitical; I have, over the years, voted for just as many Democrat candidates as I have Republicans. And a fair amount of Independents.
I vote for the candidate, based upon their qualities and track-record, not the Party.

I stand by my assessment of Mrs. Clinton as a sociopath.
She is enormously self-serving, detached from reality, and possessing of no demonstrable remorse for the harm she and her husband inflicted upon the dignity of the office 'they' once held.
She is what she is, and I would be just as critical of her if she was a Republican.

You are entitled to your own opinion of course, and I am proud to say that I served in the military for many, many years to protect your right to express it.

No matter how knee-jerk, reactionary, and half-cocked it is.

Your psychoanalysis is second hand, based on what you hear, not on direct interviews. It therefore is unreliable; not based in reality.

Tell that to Robert G.L. Waite; he wrote the definitive and highly-respected psychoanalysis of Adolf Hitler years after the man was dead. I seriously doubt he had any direct interviews to draw upon either.

http://www.amazon.com/Psychopathic-God-Adolf-Hitler/dp/0306805146

Hitler was a meth addict

he as also a homosexual, anmial rights loving non smoker vegitarian who used Dawinian survival of the fittest to justify mass genocide of weak races of people.

Oh please. How often have we seen Bush attempt to speak Spanish when he's in South America? Monday night, Olbermann showed a clip of Bush giving a speech that was about 1/3 Spanglish and the rest was English. :rolleyes:

The simple son of a bitch was the Governor of Texas for Christ's sake.
You think that was the first time he's had to trot out his marginal Spanish-speaking skills to try and engage a Spanish-speaking audience or constituency?

There's really no comparing that to what Hillary tried to perpetrate in Selma last week, in my opinion.

Oh please. How often have we seen Bush attempt to speak Spanish when he's in South America? Speaking Spanish, poorly, is more honest than donning a Yankees hat when you're in New York and claiming to be named after Sir Edmund Hillary when you're in New Zealand (there's more but you get the point).

Speaking Spanish, poorly, is more honest than donning a Yankees hat when you're in New York and claiming to be named after Sir Edmund Hillary when you're in New Zealand (there's more but you get the point).
I have to say, Brooks, I'm fully in your corner here.

Say, Vile.

In the future, can we move any thread regarding Hillary Clinton from the 'Politics' threads to the 'Aberrant Psychology' corner?

Thanks.

Speaking Spanish, poorly, is more honest than donning a Yankees hat when you're in New York and claiming to be named after Sir Edmund Hillary when you're in New Zealand (there's more but you get the point).
Any country appreciates the effort of English speaking people to speak their language. It represents a demonstration that the person doesn't think English is the only language that matters. Bush's (and Clinton's) efforts along this line were wise.

he as also a homosexual, anmial rights loving non smoker vegitarian who used Dawinian survival of the fittest to justify mass genocide of weak races of people.
I strongly doubt he was a homosexual. More likely he was like most power-hungry types are, little interested in sex.

I strongly doubt he was a homosexual. More likely he was like most power-hungry types are, little interested in sex.

Ah. Which brings us back to Hillary.

The simple son of a bitch was the Governor of Texas for Christ's sake.
You think that was the first time he's had to trot out his marginal Spanish-speaking skills to try and engage a Spanish-speaking audience or constituency?

There's really no comparing that to what Hillary tried to perpetrate in Selma last week, in my opinion.


Bushs brother Jeb, Gov of the great state of Florida, speaks fluent Spanish just FYI.

he as also a homosexual, anmial rights loving non smoker vegitarian who used Dawinian survival of the fittest to justify mass genocide of weak races of people.

.... and he breathed air... and so does Freethinker!! OMG Freethinker is a Fascist!!!

.... and he breathed air... and so does Freethinker!! OMG Freethinker is a Fascist!!!

Hes a facist anyways lol.