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dharmabum
03-01-2007, 09:51 PM
I am suprised this isn't getting more attention. (http://blogs.usatoday.com/cruiselog/2007/03/caught_smoking_.html)

Planning a cruise that departs from Canada? Your youthful indiscretions could come back to haunt you.

Today's cruisecritic.com reports that the Canadian government has begun turning away tourists arriving with convictions on their record for crimes as minor as smoking marijuana and shoplifting -- even if the convictions happened years ago during their youth. The Canadians also are cracking down on tourists arriving with convictions for driving dangerously or driving under the influence.

Cruisecritic.com says Canadian law long has considered tourists arriving with a criminal record as being "criminally inadmissible." But until recently, the technology didn't exist for Canadian border guards to know which arriving vacationers had a record, so few were turned away. The Web site says the implementation of new technology in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, and new agreements with the United States, now gives Canadian immigration officials instant access to U.S. citizens' criminal histories.

The bottom line for Americans with records of even minor crimes: Even if you've gotten into Canada before, it doesn't guarantee you'll get in again.

The change, also reported in a recent San Francisco Chronicle story, has huge implications for cruisers. Many Alaskan cruises leave from Vancouver, and U.S. vacationers heading there now could be turned away. Even passengers on Alaskan cruises departing from Seattle will find that they're not allowed to disembark during port calls in Canada. Ditto for cruisers on trips up the East Coast to Canadian cities, such as Halifax.

Cruisecritic.com says cruise lines won't refund your money if you can't get to a ship because you're turned away at a border. And travel insurance companies won't pay out in such cases. But there is a way to "rehabilitate" yourself in the eyes of the Canadians, though its drawn-out and complicated, says cruisecritic.com.

DarkFantasy96
03-01-2007, 09:54 PM
Hmmm. Damn those Canadians.

Phyrex
03-01-2007, 10:03 PM
When are we going to annex Canada already?

Ride4Life
03-01-2007, 11:33 PM
I say we declare war on them and turn the uppity bastards into a third world country

~Sal~
03-02-2007, 07:00 AM
:D to all...

Can't their minor records simply be expunged?

Master Shake
03-02-2007, 07:20 AM
:D to all...

Can't their minor records simply be expunged?A DUI is minor?

~Sal~
03-02-2007, 07:25 AM
A DUI is minor?

Well, no it is not minor, but how long must one pay for their crime? If they have a clean record for x number of years maybe it should be removed at least from restricting their travelling.

es347fan
03-02-2007, 07:44 AM
I am suprised this isn't getting more attention. (http://blogs.usatoday.com/cruiselog/2007/03/caught_smoking_.html)

Would that the United States took the same position on vistiors.

Master Shake
03-02-2007, 11:28 AM
Well, no it is not minor, but how long must one pay for their crime? If they have a clean record for x number of years maybe it should be removed at least from restricting their travelling.Im kidding, Ive got one. The way they keep raising the punishment every year Ill probably lose my right to vote soon.

es347fan
03-02-2007, 11:50 AM
Im kidding, Ive got one. The way they keep raising the punishment every year Ill probably lose my right to vote soon.

That comes right after your ability to reproduce is eliminated.

dharmabum
03-02-2007, 11:57 AM
Would that the United States took the same position on vistiors.

We did. This same basic law was passed in the U.S. so Canadians with criminal records cannot come here either.
The laws have actually been in place for some time but the system just came online that allows Immigration officials to pull up your record on the spot at the border.

paulc
03-02-2007, 12:01 PM
You think thats bad, the country south of Canada wont let you in if they dont like the look of you, full stop.

es347fan
03-02-2007, 12:12 PM
We did. This same basic law was passed in the U.S. so Canadians with criminal records cannot come here either.
The laws have actually been in place for some time but the system just came online that allows Immigration officials to pull up your record on the spot at the border.

I do remember reading about it. I think it should be applied to all that want to visit either country, not just the US & Canada. Let anyone with a criminal record remain in their own country. The U.S. certainly took it in the shorts with the Mariel Boatlift (http://heiserman.lawoffice.com/article.shtml). This country doesn't need anything like that repeated.

dharmabum
03-02-2007, 12:22 PM
The problem with that idea is getting a system that gives the agents at the border instant access to someone's record. We implimented that system between the US and Canada so they are now going to start enforcing that law.

~Sal~
03-02-2007, 02:07 PM
Hmmm, I thought you guys had that going for a while. At least that is what everyone here tells their kids when they catch them doing dope. "Keep it up bud and you'll get caught, then we will be leaving you behind when we go south because they won't let you cross the border."

An aside: A lot of our universities set up sites on campus so that students could get fast passports for spring break as many kids apparently did not know that one may no longer fly between the US and Canada without a passport.

mikezila
03-02-2007, 07:59 PM
I am suprised this isn't getting more attention. (http://blogs.usatoday.com/cruiselog/2007/03/caught_smoking_.html)
you didn't know? you can't even be behind on child support payments....not that you should be taking a cruise if you owe your kids money, but still!

paulc
03-03-2007, 10:54 AM
Easy answer, dont go to Canada.I dont think they like you guys much anyway.

dharmabum
03-03-2007, 12:28 PM
you didn't know?

No, I didn't.


you can't even be behind on child support payments...

Thats interesting. I didn't know that either. Thanks for sharing.

not that you should be taking a cruise if you owe your kids money, but still!

I agree.

mikezila
03-03-2007, 02:58 PM
Easy answer, dont go to Canada.I dont think they like you guys much anyway.
we tease each other, but we love tourists....just bring money:D