James Cameron rewrites Jesus' history

By Stone Martindale Feb 24, 2007, 23:09 GMT

Hollywood outsider and glad of it, James Cameron, has a documentary blockbuster waiting in the wings. Jesus of Nazareth has a whole new story to tell, reports Time magazine.

Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected as Christianity purports, and that Jesus' burial cave was discovered by Cameron near Jerusalem. Cameron also make claim that carpenter Jesus fathered a son with Mary Magdelene, in the explosive new Time article.

Israeli construction workers were digging the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb over 25 years ago.

According to Time, the dirt gave way, "revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua."

Archeologist and Israeli Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus, and all were common Jewish names according to Time.

In old Jerusalem, faithful Christians for centuries had been worshipping the empty tomb of Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher.

Christ's resurrection is a conerstone belief that a boy born to a mortal virginal woman is the Son of God.

Now James Cameron and Jacobovici contend they have collected real evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins did belong to Jesus and his family, reports Time.

Time magazine reports Cameron is holding a press conference on Monday in New York, at which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene.

News about the film, which will be shown soon on Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision, and Israel's Channel 8, and has been a hot blog topic in the Middle East.

Time magazine speculates Cameron's 90-minute documentary is "bound to outrage Christians and stir up a titanic debate between believers and skeptics."

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WOW! That sounds extremely interesting.

WOW! That sounds extremely interesting.
It sounds like fantasy if you go in for that sort of thing.

The first mistake would be in the assumption that there was a "historical" Jesus at all. This assumes that the Gospels tell us things of history, but they are so perfused with the mythological and full of internal contradictions that it is impossible to have any confidence.

Further, there is no "Jesus of Nazareth" (indeed, there is not even any "Nazareth") in secular history. No non-Christian author mentions either except in fraudulent entries in Josephus and later writers. (And Josephus, listing hundreds of communities in Galilee, knows nothing of any "Nazareth.") Nothing even approaching contemporary, and only obvious later Christian fraudulent insertions from later writers is the "basis" for a "historical Jesus."

There is no mention of Nazareth until Constantine's mother founded the modern city in the fourth century--declaring that to be Jesus' birthplace--because they could find no Nazareth, they made one.

(There is extant a bit of text dating from the fourth century quoting a first century (lost) text that mentions a place that might be "Nazareth," but it is obscure and weak evidence, since the quote is only a paraphrase and mentions nothing regarding Christianity).

I hasten to emphasize that most of this is understood by Christian scholars--it pertains to the "historical Jesus" problem, not to the validity of Chrisianity in the world today.

Hmmm... still sounds interesting though.

I saw the headline for this on Fark.

"James Cameron: Where is your god now?"

Naturally I don't believe it but I hadn't thought about unbeilevers , well relax it isn't true.

Naturally I don't believe it but I hadn't thought about unbeilevers , well relax it isn't true.
Because you said it janrich, I will believe it.

lol have a nice day

Naturally I don't believe it...


That makes you an "unbeliever".

That makes you an "unbeliever". You better believe it.

Probably more interesting then the 2 hour S n M fest called 'the passion'

Probably more interesting then the 2 hour S n M fest called 'the passion'

Only 2 hours? It felt more like 5...

Probably more interesting then the 2 hour S n M fest called 'the passion'

How true.

I watched about 20 minutes of the "Passion of the Christ", and was forced by nausea to turn the channel.

But then, I was never a big fan of slasher movies.

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It was a beautifully crafted film. I loved every shot.

what could it possibly prove beyond the corpses being related?

off hand, i can think of three families in my neighborhood that have a father, mother, and two brothers who's names match mine.

off hand, i can think of three families in my neighborhood that have a father, mother, and two brothers who's names match mine.They're all named 'Simpleton'?

That's an odd coincidence. :)

Jesus, Mary, Joseph, Mark, were very common names in ancient Israel. Finding a casket with those names would be like finding a tombstone in a modern cemetary with the names Robert son of William next to one that said Mary.

I visited the, Cradle of Religion, exhibit at the Broward Museum two weeks ago and saw an ossuary with the name Jesus son of Joseph scratched on it in both Hebrew and Aramaic. There was also one that has John the cousin of Jesus scratched on it.

They're all named 'Simpleton'?

That's an odd coincidence. :)

Zing!

LOL!

Jesus, Mary, Joseph, Mark, were very common names in ancient Israel. Finding a casket with those names would be like finding a tombstone in a modern cemetary with the names Robert son of William next to one that said Mary.

I visited the, Cradle of Religion, exhibit at the Broward Museum two weeks ago and saw an ossuary with the name Jesus son of Joseph scratched on it in both Hebrew and Aramaic. There was also one that has John the cousin of Jesus scratched on it.
More than likely bazaar frauds.

There will be people who will believe this and that man will have to account for them to Almighty God

There will be people who will believe this and that man will have to account for them to Almighty God
That may be your opinion, but you aren't God.

It is what the Bible says about causing someone to stumble.

now if only they could find L ron hubbard's remains

It is what the Bible says about causing someone to stumble.
Look--your arrogant approach sure causes me to "stumble," so don't be so sure of your own righteousness.

now if only they could find L ron hubbard's remains They'll find it...WITH SCIENCE!

It isn't my opinion, it is God's. Why would God's Word make you stumble?

It isn't my opinion, it is God's.

Coo Coo...

:lolhit:

Why would God's Word make you stumble?

Primarily because it is a compendium of irrational, contradictory hogwash.

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Can God be seen?


God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (Ex. 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (Ex. 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (Gen. 32:30)

God can NOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (Ex. 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1 Tim. 6:16)

God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (Ex. 33:23)
Oooh lala, your backparts, Lord?

Hey, Mary...the virgin or the whore, I don't care, someone bring the whip.

It isn't my opinion, it is God's. Why would God's Word make you stumble?

Your sanctimonious self-righteous foolishness should only be responded to with mockery. Since I am not able to mock religions, I have great difficulty framing a response.

It isn't my opinion, it is God's. Why would God's Word make you stumble? hey wait a minute...you're right! God would never make me stumble. That means the bible must have been written by...SATAN. It be just like that tricky bastard. Like how he planted all those fossils to fuck with us...

hey wait a minute...you're right! God would never make me stumble. That means the bible must have been written by...SATAN. It be just like that tricky bastard. Like how he planted all those fossils to fuck with us...
You are right, although what cause me to "stumble" is the self-righteousness of someone who thinks their particular interpretation of ancient words is "God's Word." What an arrogant thing.

Your sanctimonious self-righteous foolishness should only be responded to with mockery. Since I am not able to mock religions, I have great difficulty framing a response.


The Bible and YAHWEH tell a truth that bites doesn't it

The Bible and YAHWEH tell a truth that bites doesn't it

What truth is that?

That it is ok to sell your daughter into slavery?

Fundamentalists of every stripe are considered extremists.

The Bible and YAHWEH tell a truth that bites doesn't it
That is very different from how I see it. What I see is an immoral god throwing his weight around. That you cannot see the immorality in the OT only tells me you are the same.