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sedan
02-22-2007, 09:44 PM
Egyptian court sentences blogger to 4 years in prison

February 23, 2007 - 11:50AM


An Egyptian blogger was convicted and sentenced to four years in prison for insulting Islam and Egypt's president, sending a chill through fellow Internet writers who fear a government crackdown.

Abdel Kareem Nabil, a 22-year-old former student at Egypt's Al-Azhar University, had been a vocal secularist and sharp critic of conservative Muslims in his blog. He often lashed out at Al-Azhar _ the most prominent religious centre in Sunni Islam _ calling it "the university of terrorism" and accusing it of encouraging extremism.

Nabil's lawyer, Ahmed Seif el-Islam, said he would appeal Thursday's verdict, adding it will "terrify other bloggers and have a negative impact on freedom of expression in Egypt." Nabil had faced a possible maximum sentence of nine years in prison.

His conviction brought a flood of condemnations from international and Egyptian human rights groups, as well as fellow government critics on the Internet.

"I am shocked," said Wael Abbas, a blogger who writes frequently about police abuses and other human rights violations in Egypt. "This is a terrible message to anyone who intends to express his opinion and to bloggers in particular."

The Committee to Protect Journalists, a New York-based media rights group, said Internet writers and editors are the fastest growing segment of imprisoned journalists, with 49 behind bars as of December.

"With this verdict, Egypt has opened up a new front in its efforts to stifle media freedoms," said Joel Campagna, the group's senior Middle East program coordinator.

In Washington, Deputy State Department spokesman Tom Casey said he had no specific comment on Nabil's case, adding the U.S. is always concerned when freedom of expression is infringed.

Judge Ayman al-Akazi sentenced Nabil to three years in prison for insulting Islam and the Prophet Muhammad and inciting sectarian strife and another year for insulting President Hosni Mubarak.

Nabil, sitting in the defendant's pen, did not react as the verdict was read and made no comments as he was led to a prison truck outside. Seconds after the door was closed, an Associated Press reporter heard a slap from inside the truck and a scream.

Egypt, a top U.S. ally in the Mideast, arrested a number of bloggers last year, most of them for connections to the pro-democracy reform movement. Nabil was put on trial while other bloggers were freed _ a sign of the sensitivity of his writings on religion.

Nabil, who used the blogger name Kareem Amer, was an unusually scathing critic of conservative Muslims. His frequent attacks on Al-Azhar, where he was a law student, led the university to expel him in March, then push prosecutors to bring him to trial.

The judge said Nabil insulted the Prophet Muhammad with a piece he wrote in 2005 after riots in which angry Muslim worshippers attacked a Coptic Christian church over a play deemed offensive to Islam.

"Muslims revealed their true ugly face and appeared to all the world that they are full of brutality, barbarism and inhumanity," Nabil wrote in his blog. He called Muhammad and his 7th century followers, the Sahaba, "spillers of blood" for their teachings on warfare _ a comment cited by the judge.

In a later essay not cited by the court, Nabil clarified his comments, saying Muhammad was "great" but that his teachings on warfare and other issues should be viewed as a product of their times.

In other writings, he called Al-Azhar the "other face of the coin of al-Qaida" and called for the university to be dissolved or turned into a secular institution. He also criticized Mubarak, calling him "the symbol of tyranny."

Alaa Abdel-Fattah, a pro-reform blogger who was detained for six weeks last year, said Nabil's conviction will "have a chilling effect on the rest of the bloggers."

"We (the Egyptian people) are enduring oppression, poverty and torture, so the least we can do is insult the president," he said.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/Technology/Egyptian-court-sentences-blogger-to-4-years-in-prison/2007/02/23/1171733972565.html

Imagineer
02-23-2007, 01:16 AM
It makes one appreciate the first amendment to the American Constitution.

es347fan
02-23-2007, 02:33 AM
It makes one appreciate the first amendment to the American Constitution.

Ain't that the truth.

Sparky2
02-23-2007, 05:07 AM
Abdel Kareem Nabil blogged, "We (the Egyptian people) are enduring oppression, poverty and torture, so the least we can do is insult the president."

Even more shocking?

Nabil's blog-name was " Abdul al Freethinker bin Nefertiti"
:rolleyes:

Bears95
02-23-2007, 01:35 PM
Unbelievable. Sure does make you think twice about the luxurys we have.

smartmouthwoman
02-23-2007, 01:47 PM
LOL, I read this article in the paper this morning and the first person I thought of was Freethinker as well.

Bless his heart, he'd get death by meat cleaver if he ever left the good ole USA.

;)
SMW

Travh20
02-23-2007, 02:36 PM
It makes one appreciate the first amendment to the American Constitution.


you wouldnt know it if you came on this forum and saw how fast and loose these idiots freethinker and dhiarea throw around the word facists for anyone who doesnt agree with them

Bears95
02-23-2007, 02:40 PM
You have been here for a long time? How Do things work? Is their a specific list that will only list your messages and peoples replies to them?

es347fan
02-23-2007, 04:41 PM
You have been here for a long time? How Do things work? Is their a specific list that will only list your messages and peoples replies to them?

You might try subscribing to a thread. That should get emails sent to you when new posts are made to a thread. Otherwise, what you see is what you get.

Bears95
02-23-2007, 04:43 PM
Thanks es347fan

Imagineer
02-24-2007, 01:36 AM
you wouldnt know it if you came on this forum and saw how fast and loose these idiots freethinker and dhiarea throw around the word facists for anyone who doesnt agree with them

One thing about the American constitution, it gives everyone the right to say what they think. You don't have to agree with them, they don't even have to make sense. The reason is simple. If you can muzzle one person, you can do the same to anyone else. I can put up with some people who say things I dislike, if it means I get to speak.

paulc
03-03-2007, 12:50 PM
Makes me appreciate not being in Egypt.

Travh20
03-03-2007, 01:17 PM
One thing about the American constitution, it gives everyone the right to say what they think. You don't have to agree with them, they don't even have to make sense. The reason is simple. If you can muzzle one person, you can do the same to anyone else. I can put up with some people who say things I dislike, if it means I get to speak.

thank you Mr. Jefferson :rolleyes:

WindWip
03-03-2007, 01:37 PM
"I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Voltaire?

WindWip
03-03-2007, 01:41 PM
Ah, here's the real quote:

"I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write."
-Voltaire

paulc
03-03-2007, 01:45 PM
Fair play to ya WW, I wouldnt.

BorgHunter
03-03-2007, 01:47 PM
Ah, here's the real quote:

"I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write."
-Voltaire
It was Voltaire's biographer, Evelyn Beatrice Hall, who said that, not Voltaire himself.

WindWip
03-03-2007, 02:36 PM
It was Voltaire's biographer, Evelyn Beatrice Hall, who said that, not Voltaire himself.
Ah yes. Good quote never-the-less.

Imagineer
03-04-2007, 01:12 AM
Well it's definitely easier for Voltaire's biographer to offer Voltaire's life than for Voltaire to offer it himself.