Should be interesting--scandals and brouhaha before the racing even starts.
Jeffy gets sent back to the field for Daytona tomorrow.

NASCAR is cracking down on the cheaters.

Can't wait for Daytona tomorrow--let the racing begin!

hooray for racing. Cant believe how crappy its started out though.

Do you mean about Jeffy, or Evernham Motorports stable in trouble?

Heck, they ALL cheat--some do it better than others tho.

I prefer more of a "run what you brung" attitude toward auto racing. I feel that NASCAR is overdoing the rule thing.

This american NASCAR you speak of is inferior in every way to International Rally Racing.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Peter_Rally1.jpg/300px-Peter_Rally1.jpg

This is the true automotive sport of the world!!

If I dare, what is so fascinating about NASCAR?
LoL, how come you find it interesting to watch a few drive around in a circle 500 times? I just don't see the fun in that.

NASCAR is a lot tougher than it looks. That said, I've never watched an entire race. I prefer open wheel racing. Rally is great, it just doesn't get enough coverage here in the U.S.

I like the Speed Touring and GT races, personally.

I prefer rally racing as well, and stuff like F1 and the Le Mans series. But NASCAR deserves credit as well as any other sport. There are not many people who could do what they do.

If I dare, what is so fascinating about NASCAR?
LoL, how come you find it interesting to watch a few drive around in a circle 500 times? I just don't see the fun in that.

All right, i'll confess....

I like the accidents, trading paint, 3 and 4 wide racing in the turns, the feuds and paybacks, hitting the wall. Yes, I'm BIG enough to admit it.:eek:

It's also kinda relaxing, after a long stressful week, to watch the pretty cars go round and round in circles. It's therapeutic.

It also doesn't hurt that there's some pretty guys like Tony and Kasey K. Of course, not all are purty--like Kyle Busch. He has a face only a mother could love.

Watching cars drive around in a circle 500 times is therapeutic to you? LoL.

Harvick wins it, and didnt get caught cheating to do it. At least not yet.

I just watch for the crashes.

Oh my GOD

Did you see the end of the race??
Now this is why I watch this stuff---did you see Clint Boyer cross the finish line upside down, on fire? when he got out,
looked like he had his helmet ready to throw at someone!
They really shoulda thrown a yellow before that--Mark M would have won...poor guy, he's never won there. Glad Harvik won tho, and am looking forward to the future tete a tete between Tony and Kurt B.

I know I set an all time record for bad with points total today tho- only had one driver in the top 10--Burton---gonna go add up our scores now--i don't think I want to know.

Watching cars drive around in a circle 500 times is therapeutic to you? LoL.

LOL, it actually is, and cheaper than wrecking someone myself too.

I love watching nascar..I have almost all of Earnhardt's Jr and Sr. 1/24 scale cars..OK geek lol
I will own that proudly.

I also like watching them go round the track and trying to avoid a crash or seeing the paint jobs on the cars and who can forget some of the hottest drivers out there.
Yes and there are a few hotties, lol
Keeps it interesting to the end especially if your driver makes it to the end.

LOL, it actually is, and cheaper than wrecking someone myself too.
I've not considered this concept of not "wrecking someone elses vehicle." I thought we all did it to relax.

That's explains why the cops always come looking for me.

I've not considered this concept of not "wrecking someone elses vehicle." I thought we all did it to relax.

That's explains why the cops always come looking for me.
LoL. I only considered doing that the other day when my neighbor double parked, and I couldn't get out of my own drive, and I so wanted to wreck his car, but instead of honked until he came outside and moved it.

Well, the daytona 500 was a great race this year for those that watched it. I didnt, but I saw highlights. Would have been better is Martin had won.

Well, the daytona 500 was a great race this year for those that watched it. I didnt, but I saw highlights. Would have been better is Martin had won.

Nah better if Earnhardt, Jr won it like the bud shoot out hehe

It was a good race and loved it to the end. hehe

It was an exciting finish, although I felt disappointed for Kenseth, as he is from around here. It really hurts to wreck right at the end when you are in third place, and of course it set off the chain of events that plagued the final lap.

Nah better if Earnhardt, Jr won it like the bud shoot out hehe

It was a good race and loved it to the end. hehe


Well yeah, it would have been better if Earnhardt had won, but Martin was right there, he lost by like 2 feet.

Junior's Racin!!!! Get Your #8 Gear On!!! Junior's Racin!!!


Woohooooooooooooo Junia!!!!

I pretty much only watch races for the crashes. Adds a little excitement

So, wh'os gonna watch the race tomorrow at California?
Jeffy has the pole.

As long as it's not that home despot gomer, I don't much care.

Hehe, it might be, and I'm hoping it is.
We all know what Tony is like when he gets mad, bless his cutie pie heart.

I'm wondering how many will be gunning for Montoya following his antics in Mexico. Who will be the first to take him out?

I have dropped Juan Pablo from my fantasy team. He costs too much for what he's so far been producing.

He's a good driver, but just doesn't have the car. And he's done me in the past 2 races--I gave him a chance, but....as for that tete-a-tete with his teammate in Mexico, that's racing. I still admire his will to win. And he's caught on to NASCAR real fast--if they ain't goin fast enough, spin 'em out!

Replaced him with Kurt B on my team for the Las Vegas race tomorrow--he does well there, even tho he's ugly.:eek:

Tony Stewart Slams NASCAR

Tony has accused the NASCAR officials of throwing "phantom" cautions near the end of races to tighten up the field and thus making the racing more exciting.

This coming from a guy who threatened retirement a few weeks ago.

That li'l scamp is surely a hothead. No wonder his girlfriend dumped him.

He needs a girl to tell him to sit down and shut up.

Still Tone has a legitimate point. We've often wondered about these cautions ourselves--they're namely for debris--miniscule pieces of rubber or whatnot on the track. Sometimes no debris is evident.

NASCAR says it has the safety of the drivers first and foremost on their agenda--as it should be.

Tony thrives on controversy.It should be noted that he lost a race not long ago with a dominant car by one of these cautions. He is also winless this season.

Race at Talladega Sunday. I predict a Tony win. Yeehah!!!!

Race at Talladega Sunday. I predict a Tony win. Yeehah!!!!
I don't know Ren, those Hendrick cars are sure pouring it on right now. Go #24!!!

Hendrick is certainly dominant this year, and the Chevys in general, but Penske has finally gotten his Dodges going pretty well.

Wonder what's wrong with Roush?

He only seems to have 2 decent cars anymore--Jamie and Matt's. Maybe since he allied himself with the Red Sox, that brought him bad luck. Just 2 years ago he had all 5 cars in the Chase.

Tony provided loads of laughs yesterday by standing in the middle of the racetrack and flipping off Gilliland. That li'l scamp sure makes things interesting....wonder how much his fine will be for THAT?????

So they pelted Jeff Gordon with beer cans??

ROFL!!

Wonder what they'd do if NASCAR was a redneck sport. :eek:

So they pelted Jeff Gordon with beer cans??

ROFL!!

Wonder what they'd do if NASCAR was a redneck sport. :eek:

Hey nascar to some is not even a sport. I love nascar and enjoy the races.
Crashes are a part but love to watch to maneuvering of the vehicles. To be able to drive that fast and lap another car. Very exhilarating concept.

On Saturday, Jeff Gordon won the Bud Pole for the Aaron’s 499 NASCAR NEXTEL Cup race, the first time in his career that he had captured the pole position at Talladega Superspeedway. Gordon’s fast-lap speed of 192.069 mph actually was matched by David Gilliland, but Gordon was awarded the Bud Pole based on his first-place standing in the points.

Earnhardt jr. needs to get his head back in the game if he ever wants to stand a chance this year. He wants to move up the point standings.


RANK DRIVER, POINTS, BEHIND, STARTS, POLES, WINS, TOP 5 ,TOP 10 =WINNINGS
1 -- Kurt Busch 6506 Leader 36, 1, 3, 10, 21= 4,200,330
2 -- Jimmie Johnson 6498 -8, 36, 1, 8, 20, 23= 5,692,620
3 -- Jeff Gordon 6490 -16, 36, 6, 5, 16, 25= 6,437,660
4 +1 Mark Martin 6399 -107, 36, 0, 1, 10, 15= 3,948,500
5 -1 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 6368 -138, 36 ,0, 6 ,16, 21= 7,201,380
6 -- Tony Stewart 6326 -180, 36, 0, 2, 10, 19 =6,221,710
7 -- Ryan Newman 6180 -326, 36, 9, 2, 11, 14= 5,152,670
8 -- Matt Kenseth 6069 -437, 36, 0, 2, 8 ,16 =6,223,890
9 -- Elliott Sadler 6024 -482, 36, 0, 2, 8, 14= 5,158,360
10 -- Jeremy Mayfield 6000 -506, 36, 2, 1, 5, 13 =3,892,570

Those beer cans make us look like barbarians. We have a bad enough reputation as it is..... thanfully the Talledega Security men combined with police arrested some of the nogoodniks.

Jr advised his legions of fans that, if you're going to throw something, to throw toilet paper....we actually saw a few rolls on the track afterwards.

Shortstuff, I think Jr's been running fairly well. I predict he'll make the Chase.

If the season ended today, here's the 12 drivers who'd be in it.



1 -- Jeff Gordon 1521 Leader 9 4 2 7 8 2,240,260
2 -- Jeff Burton 1318 -203 9 0 1 5 6 2,344,190
3 -- Matt Kenseth 1292 -229 9 0 1 5 6 1,913,130
4 -- Jimmie Johnson 1290 -231 9 0 3 6 6 2,097,030
5 -- Denny Hamlin 1189 -332 9 1 0 3 4 1,390,520
6 +1 Tony Stewart 1078 -443 9 0 0 2 5 1,764,420
7 +5 Jamie McMurray 1059 -462 9 0 0 2 5 1,131,410
8 -2 Kyle Busch 1054 -467 9 0 1 2 5 1,198,980
9 +2 Kevin Harvick 1052 -469 9 0 1 2 4 2,650,860
10 +3 Kurt Busch 1038 -483 9 0 0 1 2 1,443,180
11 -2 Clint Bowyer 1021 -500 9 0 0 0 3 1,040,320

OOps, forgot to add Carl Edwards at number 12. Jr is 13th.
Great copy and paste job there.

Those beer cans make us look like barbarians. We have a bad enough reputation as it is..... thanfully the Talledega Security men combined with police arrested some of the nogoodniks.

Jr advised his legions of fans that, if you're going to throw something, to throw toilet paper....we actually saw a few rolls on the track afterwards.

Shortstuff, I think Jr's been running fairly well. I predict he'll make the Chase.

If the season ended today, here's the 12 drivers who'd be in it.



1 -- Jeff Gordon 1521 Leader 9 4 2 7 8 2,240,260
2 -- Jeff Burton 1318 -203 9 0 1 5 6 2,344,190
3 -- Matt Kenseth 1292 -229 9 0 1 5 6 1,913,130
4 -- Jimmie Johnson 1290 -231 9 0 3 6 6 2,097,030
5 -- Denny Hamlin 1189 -332 9 1 0 3 4 1,390,520
6 +1 Tony Stewart 1078 -443 9 0 0 2 5 1,764,420
7 +5 Jamie McMurray 1059 -462 9 0 0 2 5 1,131,410
8 -2 Kyle Busch 1054 -467 9 0 1 2 5 1,198,980
9 +2 Kevin Harvick 1052 -469 9 0 1 2 4 2,650,860
10 +3 Kurt Busch 1038 -483 9 0 0 1 2 1,443,180
11 -2 Clint Bowyer 1021 -500 9 0 0 0 3 1,040,320

I have to agree with the throwing toilet paper also. Some one could have been seriously injured or killed.
All this up roar. Earnhardt Sr. would have been in an up roar if he had lived to see the no gooders do such a thing.
Jr is doing OK, but he can do better and hasn't had some good runs this year and mostly last year.

So they pelted Jeff Gordon with beer cans??

ROFL!!

Wonder what they'd do if NASCAR was a redneck sport. :eek:
pelt Gordon with beer bottles:(

There is the article about the beer pelting.
morons;
Gordon wins under caution, moves past Earnhardt on career wins list

Beers to you
How did angry NASCAR fans react to Jeff Gordon's win Sunday? By tossing beer cans on the track.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-talladega&prov=ap&type=lgns

The rednecks are going to ruin it for the decent individuals who prefer to bring their own beer (cans) to the race. If this stupidity keeps up, it's only a matter of time before all tracks prohibit people from carrying in their own beer. I for one don't like having to pay six dollars for an 8 oz. plastic cup of piss beer that the tracks offer.

I'm a Gordon fan and do like Dale Jr, however, Jr does seems to have a huge following of folks right out of the trailer park. Damn it!

I'm a Gordon fan and do like Dale Jr, however, Jr does seems to have a huge following of folks right out of the trailer park. Damn it!

AWWWWWWW yes Mr. Jr does lol
He is the legacy boy. Everyone wants him to be as grand as his daddy was. Gordon is good to and it is going to be an interesting race season this year.

shortstuff, I see you are a Dale Jr fan. I used to be a huge Dale Sr fan before his untimely death. I have quite a few autographed pics and 1:24 cars by both Sr and Jr I'll try to take pics of and share on here.:thumbs:

From my collection. Sorry but my camera sucks.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/TurdFerguson_album/CIMG0009.jpg

OMG love those very cool. I have every one of Jr. 1/24 scale cars..Both raced and non races cars and all of Seniors cars. I also have Jr and Sr. Action figures. lol the big 24 inch ones and the 12 inch ones.
Not sure why just found a love for racing and senior was the first driver I watched and he became an icon to me. The when he passed I stayed true to the family name. I have a friend that has one of his car tires as a coffee table with glass for the table top.

ok I am a geeky girl lol

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/TurdFerguson_album/CIMG0005.jpg

Nice cars, TF.

But where's the #20 Home Depot car? :)

PS I was never an Earnhardt SR. fan. I respected his talent but I always favored the Allisons and BP, who unfortunately died just a few months ago.


PPS. Mike, why do you dislike Gordon? I'll admit he seems to be Mr Perfection and makes it look TOO easy. But I've never understood people's hatred for this fella.

Kyle Busch wrecked his own brother Saturday nite at the All-Star Race.

My, what a nice family.

Oh well, at least they're both handsome even if they ARE both untalented and unpopular.

I miss all the fun.
Dang siblings got to love it.

Juan Pablo gets his first Nextel Cup victory today....even tho he was almost out of gas.

As a boy, he was too poor to even take public transportation, and dreamed someday of being a professional driver.

Nice to see some new faces in Victory Lane lately.

PFFT! F*ck NASCAR. When the Iowa Corn Indy 250 is going on, I'd rather be watching that (yes, this is a Homer moment, but hey, nothing like this has ever been done in Iowa).

Pretty kewl accident involving Danica "Parnelli Jones" Patrick in that race.


Wuh--man driver!!!!

Originally posted by rendova
Pretty kewl accident involving Danica "Parnelli Jones" Patrick in that race.
Everyone around Central Iowa dubbed it the "Danica 250."

I detected a bit of whining on her part after her wreck though.

Everyone around Central Iowa dubbed it the "Danica 250."

I detected a bit of whining on her part after her wreck though.

That's something she's good at..besides pushing Dan Wheldon around and hitting fellow drivers while they're both in an ambulance--after causing yet another wreck.

I'd pay good money to see Tony take her to the wall.

Juan Carlos Montoya only switched to NASCAR because he couldn't hack the Formula One circuit. Formula One is real racing. NASCAR is just a bunch of cars going around in a circle.

Juan Pablo is good at ANY circuit.

Here's more:

The highlights of his career include an International F3000 title, a world title in the CART Championship Series, and victories in some of the most prestigious races in the world. He is the only driver to have ever won the premier North American open-wheel CART title, the Indianapolis 500 and the 24 Hours of Daytona, all at first attempt. Montoya remains one of the only two drivers to have ever won the CART title in his rookie year, the other driver being Nigel Mansell, and has equalled Graham Hill's feat of being a Monaco Grand Prix and Indianapolis 500 race winner. Montoya has also become a crossover race winner by taking victories in Formula One cars, Champcars, IndyCars, Grand-Am Prototype cars and stock cars.


You should have seen him at Infineon Sunday--the road-race course.
My god, he drove about a perfect race at this challenging track--just one minor slip when he tried to pass Jamie Mac.
Most NASCAR guys aren't real good road racers....JP showed them how it's done.
I like the guy--he's dashing and a throwback to Graham Hill, IMO.

Juan Carlos Montoya only switched to NASCAR because he couldn't hack the Formula One circuit. Formula One is real racing. NASCAR is just a bunch of cars going around in a circle.

While I agree 100%, you probably shouldn't make that statement two days after one of the few NASCAR road course races.

Gordon and Johnson have each been penalized 100 driver championship points. Their respective crew chiefs -- Steve Letarte and Chad Knaus -- have each been fined $100,000, suspended for the next six Nextel Cup Series events until Aug. 15 and placed on probation until Dec. 31, 2007.

In addition, Rick Hendrick, owner of the No. 24, has been penalized 100 car owner championship points as has Gordon, who is the owner of the No. 48.

I hope yummy Jimmy Johnson wins:thumbs:

Gordon and Johnson have each been penalized 100 driver championship points. Their respective crew chiefs -- Steve Letarte and Chad Knaus -- have each been fined $100,000, suspended for the next six Nextel Cup Series events until Aug. 15 and placed on probation until Dec. 31, 2007.

In addition, Rick Hendrick, owner of the No. 24, has been penalized 100 car owner championship points as has Gordon, who is the owner of the No. 48. OUCH!
That means Gordon, Johnson, Waltrip, and Junior have all been nailed by the heavies. I wonder how many more are going to get it before the season is over?
Did they hit Petty with a fine for his in-car audio at sonoma?

Did they hit Petty with a fine for his in-car audio at sonoma?
I haven't heard anything.

I haven't heard anything.
a couple years ago Junior got tagged for shooting his mouth off. Kyle says "What the Fuck" at turn 11 in the first lap and you dont hear a peep. guess the gordon/johnson hoopla overshadows a misque like that.

Isnt it strange that 3 of the top 5 finishers of todays race at NHIS placed that well without their regular crew chiefs?

The night race at Daytona Saturday was the best race I've seen in YEARS, even tho Tony wrecked Denny and was ungracious in his comments afterwards..... but what else is new?....Jamie Mac beat Ugly Kyle by one inch.... Jamie, I love you. Thanks to you, I am no longer in next to last place in my fantasy league, ya cute lil bleached blonde surfer boy!

Tony Stewart wins Brickyard.

Unfortunately, he's too fat to climb the fence anymore. He should leave that to skinny scudders like Helio, who invented the stunt.

One of these days Tony's gonna fall and crack his skull open.

Glad he won the race and enjoyed his post-race comments too, even tho NASCAR is sure to levy a hefty fine for his, uh, bad language, hehe.



http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8042/3689dh6.jpg

A REAL Hoosier wins the race. Take THAT, Jeffy!


Edited to add photo and gracious comment.

Boy I'm glad I found this room. I stopped by the political thread and the intellect in there made my brain freeze. Just to much thinkin .... I ..think.

The Chase is On!!!!

Here are the 12 drivers vying for the championship. Unfortunately, Jr, despite a valiant effort, failed to make it. It was his misfortune to have a car whose engine blew up every other week, it seemed.






Rank (+/-) Drivers Total Pts Behind Starts Poles Wins Top 5 Top 10 DNF Winnings
1 +5 Jimmie Johnson 5060 Leader 26 1 6 14 16 4 $5,322,236
2 -1 Jeff Gordon 5040 20 26 9 4 15 21 1 $5,344,762
3 -1 Tony Stewart 5030 30 26 0 3 9 18 3 $5,022,191
4 - Carl Edwards 5020 40 26 0 2 7 11 2 $3,357,762
5 +6 Kurt Busch 5020 40 26 1 2 5 10 2 $3,923,391
6 +1 Kevin Harvick 5010 50 26 0 1 4 11 0 $6,161,558
7 -3 Jeff Burton 5010 50 26 0 1 7 12 2 $4,698,409
8 -3 Matt Kenseth 5010 50 26 0 1 8 16 2 $4,637,919
9 +3 Martin Truex Jr. 5010 50 26 0 1 5 10 2 $3,717,151
10 -3 Denny Hamlin 5010 50 26 1 1 10 15 1 $3,824,289
11 -1 Kyle Busch 5010 50 26 0 1 6 14 1 $3,466,918
12 -3 Clint Bowyer 5000 60 26 1 0 2 12 0 $2,882,344


PS Late breaking news--Dario Franchetti and Jacques Velleneuve moving to NASCAR next year.

I like JR But would hate to of seen him win a championship with that bitch stepmom

Clint Bowyer gets his very first Nextel Cup win today, and if you're going to win, now's the time to do it. Other than that, fairly dull race to start off the Chase--not enough wrecks.

Surprising with so much at stake how many finished.

GREAT race at Dover today--fights, wrecks galore.... finally some racing for this Chase! The guys aren't playing nice anymore, hehe.

Jeffy number one in points, folllowed closely by Tony and then Carl Edwards, who won today. Denny might be too far out to amount to anything.

I saw the ending of the race. Dover is typically a good race.

GREAT race at Dover today--fights, wrecks galore.... finally some racing for this Chase! The guys aren't playing nice anymore, hehe.

Jeffy number one in points, folllowed closely by Tony and then Carl Edwards, who won today. Denny might be too far out to amount to anything.

I saw that what a difference a year makes...Some ass kicking for some of the drivers is needed...oh well they can rebuild next year. lol

It sure won't be the same without him in the Budweiser.

Tony helped "fellow" Hoosier Jeffy to the win Sunday at Talledega.
Better than helping Jimmie J tho, in Tony's mind. If he had not attempted to block Jimmie in the last lap, Tony prob would have won.
I think Tony deliberately took himself out of the race just so in order to not help Jimmie, who he hates, lol.

If you're at a race & meet someone from D.C., be sure to sneeze on them!


NASCAR Cooties? (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301521,00.html)



WASHINGTON — Going to NASCAR? Are your inoculation records up to date? Have you had all your shots?
Most fans would probably think that a homeland security emergency at a NASCAR race would take the form of a terror attack. But after hearing all the noise in Washington the last couple of days, they'd be wrong.
The argument began when congressional aides were advised to get real-life immunizations against several communicable diseases — including hepatitis, diphtheria, tetanus and influenza — before traveling to look at preparations being made by local first responders for hypothetical scenarios at the tracks in Talladega, Ala., and Concord, N.C.

:rant:

http://news.mywebpal.com/partners/680/images/news/NASCAR-coLOR.jpg

LOL-----beer cans, beer bottles....all useful missiles.

Can't wait for the race at Martinsville tomorrow.

Jimmie J, Dudman, wins so much he doesn't even smile in Victory Lane.
God, he's dull like the rest of Hendrick Motorsports. I was hoping Tony would add to the mixup a bit. He hates Jimmie even more than I do.

C'mon Tony, liven things up a bit for us.

What a wild ending at Atlanta today!

Poor Denny--it was his bad luck that made him run out of gas with just a few laps to go and splutter and die on the restart, causing a massive accident.