A frat at Clemson University threw a dress-up party on the eve of MLK day which included girls stuffing in their bottoms, "grills", afro wigs, gangsta clothing, consumption of 40-oz malt liquor, and one student painting himself black.

Is it wrong?

Edit: Here's the link from an article about it: http://www.cnn.com/2007/EDUCATION/01/31/clemson.party.ap/index.html

i'm not Mr. PC, but even i can see that as grossly insensitive...

but at least they marked the day by something other than calling it James Earl Ray Day.

Sounds like a fun party. People are getting way to concerned with being PC. People throw 'gangster' parties, or 'pimps n hoes' parties all the time and all the guys dress in what we consider 'black' clothing. Who cares?

Sounds like a fun party. People are getting way to concerned with being PC. People throw 'gangster' parties, or 'pimps n hoes' parties all the time and all the guys dress in what we consider 'black' clothing. Who cares?
'black' people care.

A local HS (on the rich side of town) made the paper for a similar 'day' last year celebrating the Hispanic culture. Kids came to school wearing khakis, long-sleeved shirts and carrying leaf blowers. Officials put a stop to their lil festival.

There are white trash parties as well. I don't get offended. It's just a party, the kids are trying to have a good time.

Maybe the blacks don't like seeing the way their brethern are so often seen in public. Sometimes reality really sux. Going in 'blackface' is a bit overboard, but the rest? BFD. Would blacks holding a "redneck" party (greasy ballcaps, some teeth blacked out, dipping snuff or chewing tobacco, drinking Natural Lite by the gallon) be worthy of the same level of publicity? I doubt it.

i'm not Mr. PC, but even i can see that as grossly insensitive...


Personally, I would say it's a private party and you can be as insensitive as you want. You can have bachelor and bachelorette parties which are extraordinarily insensitive to the opposite sex. You can have hillbilly parties. I just don't see why it's anyone's business but the partygoers.

Man, after reading that article the NAACP just pisses me off.

Personally, I would say it's a private party and you can be as insensitive as you want. You can have bachelor and bachelorette parties which are extraordinarily insensitive to the opposite sex. You can have hillbilly parties. I just don't see why it's anyone's business but the partygoers.

The NAACP got pissed off, so now they're trying to hunt down people who were drinking that were under 21. That's bullshit. It should have been only the business of the partygoers, but not anymore.

Personally, I would say it's a private party and you can be as insensitive as you want. You can have bachelor and bachelorette parties which are extraordinarily insensitive to the opposite sex. You can have hillbilly parties. I just don't see why it's anyone's business but the partygoers.
my copy of the Big Book of Rules doesn't list insensitivity as being illegal, just being in bad taste.

Did the party get out of hand? Were the cops called? What about the EMS folks or the fire department? Was there a bonfire in the dorm or somebody firing weapons into the air? Any complaints about loud music or anything of the sort? All we've seen and heard is that a bunch of white kids had a party, the theme of which apparently offended some folks. Tough shit.

I bet you that there were black kids there as well. I hope so at least, it would make the NAACP look like more of an ass.

The NAACP got pissed off, so now they're trying to hunt down people who were drinking that were under 21. That's bullshit. It should have been only the business of the partygoers, but not anymore.
best of luck to them proving possession from a photo-it could have been ginger ale.

best of luck to them proving possession from a photo-it could have been ginger ale.

I'm pretty sure that they'll drop it, but I'm just pissed that they're being such dicks about it. What does underage drinking have to do with respecting MLK?

I'm pretty sure that they'll drop it, but I'm just pissed that they're being such dicks about it. What does underage drinking have to do with respecting MLK?
the Feds didn't get Al Capone for murder or bootlegging, they got him for tax evasion...what they could prove. the NAACP can't prove insensitivity because there's no law against it...until the left-wing loonies get their way.

A few years ago, a fraternity at the University of Wisconsin did something at least as distasteful. They held a slave auction, at which members put on blackface and auctioned off their services to raise money for charity. It wasn't a matter for law enforcement, as there isn't a law against acting offensively (thankfully). It was however a matter of concern for the local Inter-Fraternity Council and the University. They were punished by being suspended from all interfraternity activities for a year, including such things as not being allowed to have a float in the homecoming parade. The University warned them that any further such behavior would result in the loss of their status as a fraternity recognized by the university. The loss of such status would also result in the loss of money from student funds to help fund their fraternity.
These actions seemed reasonable to me, since they involved those organizations saying they did not wish to be affiliated with the fraternity. They have a right to be offensive, and others have the right to be offended. Others also have the right not to be associated with the offensive individuals.

A few years ago, a fraternity at the University of Wisconsin did something at least as distasteful. They held a slave auction, at which members put on blackface and auctioned off their services to raise money for charity. It wasn't a matter for law enforcement, as there isn't a law against acting offensively (thankfully). It was however a matter of concern for the local Inter-Fraternity Council and the University. They were punished by being suspended from all interfraternity activities for a year, including such things as not being allowed to have a float in the homecoming parade. The University warned them that any further such behavior would result in the loss of their status as a fraternity recognized by the university. The loss of such status would also result in the loss of money from student funds to help fund their fraternity.
These actions seemed reasonable to me, since they involved those organizations saying they did not wish to be affiliated with the fraternity. They have a right to be offensive, and others have the right to be offended. Others also have the right not to be associated with the offensive individuals.

I agree. I also think that your example is far, far more distasteful than the one originally presented. If I walked by a 'slave auction' I'd give them a piece of my mind.

Screw James Barker and screw the NAACP. So they were offended. BFD. People get offended every day. I am offended when I hear a rap song calling women ho's. I get offended whn Mexicans jam the 7-11 parking lot looking for day work. I get offended when rich white kids act like poor black kids. There are things that offend me just as there are things that offend others. Who really cares.

Last I heard being offensive was not yet against the law. If it was anyone who drove a Yugo would be in jail.

You could offend the NAACP by merely saying the word "black"

Screw James Barker and screw the NAACP. So they were offended. BFD. People get offended every day. I am offended when I hear a rap song calling women ho's. I get offended whn Mexicans jam the 7-11 parking lot looking for day work. I get offended when rich white kids act like poor black kids. There are things that offend me just as there are things that offend others. Who really cares.

Last I heard being offensive was not yet against the law. If it was anyone who drove a Yugo would be in jail.

Biggest difference is LULAC & NAACP exist for minorities, while no similar group exists for the majority population. What those organizations are best at, in this day and age, is either raising hell or playing martyr as whatever presenting situation may serve them best.

I think they should be kicked out of Clemson. Not for being offensive, just for being stupid. "This party theme is the greatest idea we've ever had!"

I have seen riots start at universities for less than that party.

Every February I see George Washington and Abraham Lincoln selling everything from cars to Hawaiian Punch.

We will not have equality in this country until Walmart has the Martin Luther King White Sale.

Every February I see George Washington and Abraham Lincoln selling everything from cars to Hawaiian Punch.

We will not have equality in this country until Walmart has the Martin Luther King White Sale.
wait until President Sharpton puts MLK on the fiddy dolla bill.

Maybe the blacks don't like seeing the way their brethern are so often seen in public. Sometimes reality really sux. Going in 'blackface' is a bit overboard, but the rest? BFD.

I agree.

Personally, I would say it's a private party and you can be as insensitive as you want. You can have bachelor and bachelorette parties which are extraordinarily insensitive to the opposite sex. You can have hillbilly parties. I just don't see why it's anyone's business but the partygoers.

Again, I agree.

Big deal. It's a private party. Whenever we get to the point in this country that people at a private gathering are barred from being insensitive, we will have pretty much lost the last of our rights.

wait until President Sharpton puts MLK on the fiddy dolla bill.

no problem, it's not like any crack dealing, fast-food buying, 15 children bearing family sees many fiddies anyways...

who cares who is on the bills.. as long as they are in your pocket.

I agree.

Big deal. It's a private party. Whenever we get to the point in this country that people at a private gathering are barred from being insensitive, we will have ..... lost one of our rights.
Fully agreed.

I have seen riots start at universities for less than that party.

If that's so, then only the rioters and their inciters are to blame.

no problem, it's not like any crack dealing, fast-food buying, 15 children bearing family sees many fiddies anyways...

who cares who is on the bills.. as long as they are in your pocket.

Wait... are you trying to be funny? :D

no problem, it's not like any crack dealing, fast-food buying, 15 children bearing family sees many fiddies anyways...

who cares who is on the bills.. as long as they are in your pocket.
:eek:
Wait... are you trying to be funny? :D
Actually, to be honest, it made me chuckle....

I mean the fact that he said it out loud is funny enough.

:eek:

Actually, to be honest, it made me chuckle....

I mean the fact that he said it out loud is funny enough.
Well, I started to feel a little offended, but then I realized it was just a bad joke.. :lolhit:

no problem, it's not like any crack dealing, fast-food buying, 15 children bearing family sees many fiddies anyways...

who cares who is on the bills.. as long as they are in your pocket.
i deposit my paychecks, i don't cash them. what kind of loser walks around with large bills?

i deposit my paychecks, i don't cash them. what kind of loser walks around with large bills?

Guys like me.. who enjoy showing them off:D

Guys like me.. who enjoy showing them off:D
good luck breaking that fifty at a gas station at 3am.

good luck breaking that fifty at a gas station at 3am.
What kind of gas station can't break a fifty?

Guys like me.. who enjoy showing them off:D
You know what they call that, don't you? In case not, I'll give you a clue:

- - - - - - rich.

Guys like me.. who enjoy showing them off:D
Much more difficult to get your cash back when you're mugged than it is to cancel your debit card.

I was mugged a couple weeks ago. I only had $46 on me at the time, and that was more than I usually carry. (I use my Discover and my Visa, not cash, when I buy anything. Or my debit card if I'm approaching my credit limits -- happening less often as I go from a single card with a $500 limit, to another with a $300 limit, to that guy getting upped to $600.) I got really lucky and the CPD found the guy, and I'll get my money back after they're through using it as "evidence", but that could have been a lot worse if I carried around hundreds in cash and the guy wasn't a dumbass. And oh, was he a dumbass...he mugged me while wearing a bright green Boston Red Sox cap...which he never thought to take off. Not all crooks are quite that dumb. You can take fraudulent charges off a credit or debit card, but you can't do that with cash.

Just a thought.

i deposit my paychecks, i don't cash them. what kind of loser walks around with large bills?

I very rarely walk out of the house with less than 300 cash in my pocket.

I have carried around as much as 3 or 4 thousand in hundreds in my pocket for many days in a row if I was going to a lot of poker games. (this was pre-internet and even before the land based casinos began to be so common)

But then, I am in a very rural area, and muggings are exceptionally rare.

I very rarely walk out of the house with less than 300 cash in my pocket.
A decent down payment on a one-way ticket to Sweden, for sure. ;)
I have carried around as much as 3 or 4 thousand in hundreds in my pocket for many days in a row if I was going to a lot of poker games.
I've done the same thing. Speaking of which, I won 2,500 playing Texas Hold 'em yesterday, and the funny part is, I would've bet cash money on my blood alcohol content being in excess of .25. To be honest, I can't even think straight today; I've been useless at work, and I have a raging headache.

A decent down payment on a one-way ticket to Sweden, for sure. ;)

I've done the same thing. Speaking of which, I won 2,500 playing Texas Hold 'em yesterday, and the funny part is, I would've bet cash money on my blood alcohol content being in excess of .25. To be honest, I can't even think straight today; I've been useless at work, and I have a raging headache.
Yeah, I can always play pool better after a few drinks... but if I get TOO drunk my ability goes down quickly.

I carried 2,000 in cash when I went to Peru. ATMs charge you a f***load to withdraw, so I got it beforehand

i deposit my paychecks, i don't cash them. what kind of loser walks around with large bills?

heh, I do it somewhat often. I've never been mugged before, I think that potential muggers don't often choose a 6'3 guy. They usually go for smaller ppl.

heh, I do it somewhat often. I've never been mugged before, I think that potential muggers don't often choose a 6'3 guy. They usually go for smaller ppl.
Well Borg got mugged and he's 6 feet. I wouldn't call that small. It's not as if he's intimidating though. :lolhit:

It's a lack of respect for our fellow Americans and an American hero.

Well Borg got mugged and he's 6 feet. I wouldn't call that small. It's not as if he's intimidating though. :lolhit:

Borg scares the hell outta me. I wouldn't mess with him, I'd get phasered.

Borg scares the hell outta me. I wouldn't mess with him, I'd get phasered.
I had to go to court today. The dude who mugged me just got indicted.

Indicted with my PHASER! Bwahahahahaha...

What kind of gas station can't break a fifty?
one that does want to get robbed at 3am.

Much more difficult to get your cash back when you're mugged than it is to cancel your debit card.

I was mugged a couple weeks ago. I only had $46 on me at the time, and that was more than I usually carry. (I use my Discover and my Visa, not cash, when I buy anything. Or my debit card if I'm approaching my credit limits -- happening less often as I go from a single card with a $500 limit, to another with a $300 limit, to that guy getting upped to $600.) I got really lucky and the CPD found the guy, and I'll get my money back after they're through using it as "evidence", but that could have been a lot worse if I carried around hundreds in cash and the guy wasn't a dumbass. And oh, was he a dumbass...he mugged me while wearing a bright green Boston Red Sox cap...which he never thought to take off. Not all crooks are quite that dumb. You can take fraudulent charges off a credit or debit card, but you can't do that with cash.

Just a thought.
if he was that bright to begin with, he wouldn't be mugging people.:thumbs:

I very rarely walk out of the house with less than 300 cash in my pocket.

I have carried around as much as 3 or 4 thousand in hundreds in my pocket for many days in a row if I was going to a lot of poker games. (this was pre-internet and even before the land based casinos began to be so common)

But then, I am in a very rural area, and muggings are exceptionally rare.
that's completely different! i end up in Detroit or Flint way too often to be living like that. even when i was driving over the road, i made sure my lunch money was in small bills, and never kept it all in one place just in case being 6'4" and looking like a cop didn't work. once some idiot made the mistake of misjudging my size when i was walking up to the truck stop and bounced off me when he jumped off the catwalk of a truck.
















i felt so bad for him i only kicked him once:lolhit:

Why does it show lack of respect for a white male to make himself up as MLK at a MLK party? From the short news note, this may well have been his intent.
Or, does it show lack of respect because white people celebrated MLK day?

Mikezila-We're from the same area. I'm from Waterford, not to far from Fenton. I noticed after you mentioned Detroit and Flint.

Mikezila-We're from the same area. I'm from Waterford, not to far from Fenton. I noticed after you mentioned Detroit and Flint.
thank you....if you hadn't brought up the Detroit-Flint thingy i wouldn't have noticed my typo:o

Why does it show lack of respect for a white male to make himself up as MLK at a MLK party? From the short news note, this may well have been his intent.
Or, does it show lack of respect because white people celebrated MLK day?
i'll go with the black-face argument. who dresses up like Gen. Washington on Presidents Day (that isn't getting paid to)?

I had to go to court today. The dude who mugged me just got indicted.

Indicted with my PHASER! Bwahahahahaha...

heh, and I thought I was a nerd for playing so many video games :P

So what's he getting charged with?

that's completely different! i end up in Detroit or Flint way too often to be living like that. even when i was driving over the road, i made sure my lunch money was in small bills, and never kept it all in one place just in case being 6'4" and looking like a cop didn't work.

6'4, 6'3, 6'

We've got some tall people here

6'4, 6'3, 6'

We've got some tall people here
does anyone ever ask short ppl to get things off the bottom shelf at a supermarket?:@@:

heh, and I thought I was a nerd for playing so many video games :P

So what's he getting charged with?
"Prisoner #31784AY is charged with three counts of criminal behavior:

1. #31784AY is guilty of forcibly stealing the wallet of a pedestrian.
2. #31784AY is guilty of being a Red Sox fan in Chicago.
3. #31784AY is guilty of being an aggressor towards the one and only BorgHunter, moderator of allForums and recently voted sexiest poster at said forum.

Evidence: wallet, chewed up gum, Red Sox hat, and a picture of BorgHunter in the nude.

Court date to be assigned by district official.

End Report."

Equal time (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,252597,00.html)


Outrage Over California College Party Accused of Mocking Hispanics

SANTA CLARA, California — A "South of the Border" theme party has stirred outrage at a university after students showed up at the bash dressed as Hispanic janitors, gardeners, gangbangers and pregnant teens.
Photographs from the private, off-campus party organized by Santa Clara University students in late January appeared on the Internet soon afterward, prompting an outcry on campus.
One image shows a partygoer with a balloon stuffed under her shirt, making her appear pregnant. In another, a woman wears pink rubber cleaning gloves and carries a feather duster.
"A lot of people have the idea that Mexicans or Latin Americans are all like that, and that's wrong," said Nadine Rasch, 18, a finance major from Guatemala, who did not attend the party.
Paul Locatelli, president of the nearly 8,400-student Jesuit university, has condemned the party. No students have been disciplined, but a campus spokeswoman said the school is investigating the party and that the university's code of conduct extends to students who live off-campus.
A protest march organized by students attracted 250 people, while the campus has held meetings and plans a forum next week.
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:drinktoth

does anyone ever ask short ppl to get things off the bottom shelf at a supermarket?:@@:Short people got no reason to live.

I just love picking on tall folks. Anyone over 5'8" is fair game. I make them do stuff all the time. The taller the better.

Short people got no reason to live.
Support eugenics!

Support eugenics!
i think the North American Eugene is nearly extinct:(

Short people got no reason to live.
Exactly.