And that is where I stopped.

Anybody who starts like that isn't worth reading.

Wait, so I wasted all that time breaking your post into segments to respond to for nothing?

Didn't waste time, just made dharma look like a cut and runner..

Wait, so I wasted all that time breaking your post into segments to respond to for nothing?


You should learn to respond without unnecessary namecalling.
Then maybe I will consider you worth the time.

You should learn to respond without unnecessary namecalling.
Then maybe I will consider you worth the time.

Presenting a non response in such an aloof manner will get you nowhere on this forum. If you truly mean to stand your ground then post to the issue and ignore the defamatory comments. Otherwise you will soon be seen as yet another dramaqueen, getting no respect from anyone and eventually leaving in a huff.

Presenting a non response in such an aloof manner will get you nowhere on this forum. If you truly mean to stand your ground then post to the issue and ignore the defamatory comments.


Are you saying I should just tolerate his incessant namecalling?

shows alot about your character if you don't sacrafice anything...

FIRST, you intellectually dishonest puke, you accuse me of --""thinking I am making some kind of "sacrafice" by typing in a message forum.""

Then when I completely refute that assertion, and shoot down that bit of idiocy. you retreat to --""I wouldn't want you on my sports team.

What a dimwitted little buffoon you are.

Oh and just because you disagree with my assessment... or in your terms.. "shoot down" my opinion... it all of the sudden becomes that you are "refuting" with some sort of evidence? LMAO...

Obviously you don't see the bias perspective we both come from... I think you are an idiot, and you don't think too highly of me either... wow what a shocker.

Just don't try to tell me that your perspective is somehow worth more, because i hate egoist jackoffs. I wouldn't want you on my sports team, you'd probably not come to practice because running is "bad for the joints" later on ln life LOL.

If you really wish to live in a fascist society, as it seems you do, I suggest you pack up your shit and move to one.

Are your reading comprehension skills truely so poor that you mistook my criticisms of fascist behavior to mean I "want to" live in a fascist society?

If so, it would explain why you have no clue what you are talking about.


You are doing nothing by simply exercising a right afforded to you by the country you live in. If you get arrested and exercise your right to remain silent are you somehow "doing something"? no. So by speaking freely in a country thst guarentees free speech you are doing nothing.

So according to you, every US soldier who ever died fighting for our freedoms died for "nothing" since according to you, our freedoms aren't worth anything and exercising them is meaningless.

Is that your idea of supporting the troops?


Do you understand the concept of a slippery slope?

oh good! someone who will finally agree with my views on gay marriage! See, slippery slope is a bad word around here, it does not exist.

Judging from that response, the answer to my question is "no."


Originally Posted by dharmabum
In light of that, suggesting that someone should wait until the worst has already come before speaking up is patently absurd.

The worst? how about anything buy left wing internet theories and checklists indicating when you have officially reached fascism.

Oh, you poor baby!
Would you like some cheese with that whine?

Unlike your nonsense, at least the "theories" presented by FT are backed up by facts and evidence. The best you have been able to manage is "uh uh, no it isn't". Yeah... that is less than convincing.


Originally Posted by dharmabum
What is that?

Our military is all-volunteer.

not for white people.

What is that supposed to mean?



I guess you have never been "volunteered" for anything.

Yeah, it is called "forcing" and it is precisely what you were just claiming doesn't happen.

Which is it?

What a dimwitted little buffoon you are.

There seems to be a lot of that around but for some reason I am expected to treat them with kid gloves.

There seems to be a lot of that around but for some reason I am expected to treat them with kid gloves.

I thought you didn't like exaggeration...

In case it's escaped your notice, this forum is pretty open about what can be and what cannot be posted. Insults and profanity are allowed as long as, and I'm paraphrasing Borg here, "as long as the insults etc. are wrapped around some kind of point". When a thread degenerates into nothing but an insult fest, which happens rarely, the thread may be closed, or posters may be warned to cease and desist. Threats are never tolerated, which is why Evak's post(s) were removed.

Trav can be pretty blunt at times (usually :D), but so can FT and any number of other people. I guess if you decide to stick around you'll have to accept us the way we are, warts and all.

FIRST, you intellectually dishonest puke, you accuse me of --""thinking I am making some kind of "sacrafice" by typing in a message forum.""

Then when I completely refute that assertion, and shoot down that bit of idiocy. you retreat to --""I wouldn't want you on my sports team.


Oh and just because you disagree with my assessment... or in your terms.. "shoot down" my opinion... it all of the sudden becomes that you are "refuting" with some sort of evidence? LMAO...

Ok, you little fucking pipsqueak, let's cut to the heart of it, shall we?

You accused me of --""thinking that I am making some kind of "sacrafice" by typing in a message forum"".

Right here, right now, present all of the evidence you have to back up that allegation.


(not holding my breath..........)

Trav can be pretty blunt at times

Blunt?!?

No, Blunt is when you are slightly rude in making a point.

There is no point whatsoever to this:

"Earth to dumb ass!"

None. It was a mistake of habit.
His/Her sig says "napsterbater's mother" so I thought he was a she.
actually i can understand that...if you've missed Decka's "your momma" jokes directed to Nappy.

actually i can understand that...if you've missed Decka's "your momma" jokes directed to Nappy.

Yeah, that explains a lot. I never saw those.

Ok, you little fucking pipsqueak, let's cut to the heart of it, shall we?

You accused me of --""thinking that I am making some kind of "sacrafice" by typing in a message forum"".

Right here, right now, present all of the evidence you have to back up that allegation.


(not holding my breath..........)
i'd never assume that any left wing loony is intentionally making their own sacrifice.

FT, it was just my opinion.. why else would you go to such great lengths in posting all the articles.. saying the same things over and over and over.. if it wasn't for a greater cause?

I'll still agree that Trav has done more for this country than you and dharma combined, unless either of you are involved in any programs i am unaware of.

I'll still agree that Trav has done more for this country than you and dharma combined, unless either of you are involved in any programs i am unaware of.

You are unaware of 99.99% of what I do so your opinion means nothing.

Dharma, the key to jousting in this game of ego is to do either one of two things. Mix in your insults with actual on-topic arguments, as in, "What your rat-infested brain seems to refuse to acknowledge, is..." followed by your argument.

The other is to actually be funny. There's a certain level of skill involved, one you seem totally devoid of. Then again, I think I've maybe seen you be funny once. It's weird because you seem to have such great avatars and sigs. Try harder next time, kay? Which is why people jump all over you when you make posts that not only not have anything relevant, but only serve to make piddling little insults that involve you lording your (suspect) intellectual advantage over everyone.

I know it's hard distancing your ego from your posts and actually taking time to craft good posts, but there is a method to the AllForums madness. Even mine.

interesting rules for being rude, napster.

interesting rules for being rude, napster.
Nappy is pulling it all out of his ass, as usual. And doing it well, I might add.

I hate it when people are so good at being bad. :D

Well, it all boils down to respect. People, given the choice, would rather respect each other than to like each other. By lobbing insults at the other, they are giving them the opportunity to earn respect, by dealing with the insults adroitly and relevantly. If you can take it all in the spirit it was meant to be in, jest and fun, while still keeping a topic alive, well, then maybe you have something worth contributing to here.

But to expect your hard-line left stances to be taken seriously here except by other serious avowed lefties, well that's just asking too much of this board, which, in reflecting with the background American attitudes on politics these days, is decidedly disgusted by yours.

Yeah, that explains a lot. I never saw those.
His sig used to be one of those delightfully hacky insults, the kind that you get from others and actually think it's funny when you say it, forgetting that timing and delivery are twice as important as meaning, but Vile made him take it down. So now he has the "spirit" of a momma joke, without the offensive content, which about sums up Decka's character.

Decka, Decka? Give us another momma joke, will ya? Just for old-time's sake!

Do you understand the concept of a slippery slope?

It is the act of predicting the future when one is out of ideas.

Dharma, the key to jousting in this game of ego is to do either one of two things. Mix in your insults with actual on-topic arguments, as in, "What your rat-infested brain seems to refuse to acknowledge, is..." followed by your argument.

The other is to actually be funny. .C'est Magnifique.
This should be posted in the FAQ.

Only if it is untrue.

That said, the subject of this thread was really just a joke. I was being sarcastic about the slippery slope of eroding liberty we find ourselves on today.
Fascism is something to think long and hard about before making a joke of, but if Mel Brooks can do it, I guess it's something I can accept.

There never will be an administration you agree with fully on all it does. I doubt there ever has been an administration anyone has agreed with fully.

So in a sense one is always choosing the least of two evils, but you can also see it as choosing the better of two goods (since no administration will be all bad). Learning to look at the proverbial glass as half full, or even as having a few swallows of water in it, is a calmer and more sensible approach.

Let me add a comment about "our eroding liberty." I agree with you that it has been eroding, but I suspect our analysis of the reasons will differ.

Nowadays the greatest restraint on the ordinary person's liberty is the combination of the litgiation threat and government regulation.

The drug war is another source of the diminishing liberty, and I am at a loss as to what might be done to change that.

When technology gets to the point where terrorists can cause truly mass destruction, no society will permit it, and what would now be perceived as intolerable limits on liberty (especially on privacy) will be welcomed by society--nay, demanded by it.

Well, it all boils down to respect. People, given the choice, would rather respect each other than to like each other. By lobbing insults at the other, they are giving them the opportunity to earn respect, by dealing with the insults adroitly and relevantly. If you can take it all in the spirit it was meant to be in, jest and fun, while still keeping a topic alive, well, then maybe you have something worth contributing to here.
That was excellent, Nap.

Let me add a comment about "our eroding liberty." I agree with you that it has been eroding, but I suspect our analysis of the reasons will differ.

Nowadays the greatest restraint on the ordinary person's liberty is the combination of the litgiation threat and government regulation.

The drug war is another source of the diminishing liberty, and I am at a loss as to what might be done to change that.

When technology gets to the point where terrorists can cause truly mass destruction, no society will permit it, and what would now be perceived as intolerable limits on liberty (especially on privacy) will be welcomed by society--nay, demanded by it.

See, I offer this post as a wonderful example of a civilized person making discussion. Notice, certain people of both sides of the political spectrum, that nowhere in this does Thislin say the word "idiot" or "fucking pipsqueak" or "liberal/conservative nutcase" about anyone.

I'm getting quite tired of all the threads turning into rude bashes of anyone who doesn't agree with you.

he has 59 posts, give him some time.

So in a sense one is always choosing the least of two evils, but you can also see it as choosing the better of two goods (since no administration will be all bad). Learning to look at the proverbial glass as half full, or even as having a few swallows of water in it, is a calmer and more sensible approach.

I prefer to be realistic about what is going on, rather than having an unrealistic "postive" outlook.
It is a hell of a lot easier to feign optimism about the policies of this administration when you have no skin in the game.
Perhaps after you have lost two friends in Iraq and had one lose a leg, you would feel a little less positive about this fisaco also.

When technology gets to the point where terrorists can cause truly mass destruction, no society will permit it, and what would now be perceived as intolerable limits on liberty (especially on privacy) will be welcomed by society--nay, demanded by it.

That technology has existed for decades and many would argue that terrorists have been causing mass destruction for a long time.

"Terrroism" is defined as the use of violence to force a politicial or social change.

"Regime change" IS terrorism.

Without an immediate threat to give one an excuse for invasion, the invasion ceases to be in defense and becomes a act of aggression. It becomes naked "regime change" which is, by definition, Terrorism.

The scare tactics that will be used to try and force our freedoms away from us must be rejected by people of conscience.

Well, it all boils down to respect. People, given the choice, would rather respect each other than to like each other. By lobbing insults at the other, they are giving them the opportunity to earn respect, by dealing with the insults adroitly and relevantly. If you can take it all in the spirit it was meant to be in, jest and fun, while still keeping a topic alive, well, then maybe you have something worth contributing to here.

But to expect your hard-line left stances to be taken seriously here except by other serious avowed lefties, well that's just asking too much of this board, which, in reflecting with the background American attitudes on politics these days, is decidedly disgusted by yours.

So in other words, according to you, nobody here cares at all about good ideas.
All they care about is being hard-rightwingers and throwing around insults to "earn respect".

What a complete load of hogwash.

I have to be honest and tell you that from what I've seen, your outlook is not "realistic." You seem to live in a fantasy world--one I have not yet and probably will never figure out, but it ain't nice. No wonder you are so ill tempered.

As far as weapons of mass destruction go, at the moment their possession is limited to organized governments, and that spread is, I think, the greatest danger facing humanity.

One of these days terrorists will become known to possess nuclear weapons. At that point, or shortly thereafter when they use one, society will be utterly transformed.

So in other words, according to you, nobody here cares at all about good ideas.
All they care about is being hard-rightwingers and throwing around insults to "earn respect".

What a complete load of hogwash.
You are a fucking moron. When you feel ready to join the community here, instead of imposing your own pissant dreams of proper discussion to the rest of the world, you might find out that it isn't so bad around here after all. That goes for you too, Vile.

That goes for you too, Vile.
:eek:

Jesus, Nap - Vile's not that bad. He's a mod...what do you expect?

I expect him to quit singling me out for "moderation" that essentially boils down to making personal attacks under the veneer of moderation. I'm sorry if he feels I have nothing to contribute here, or that I'm unnecessarily assholic, or if he just doesn't like my style, but it's not up to him to dictate how or what I say.

Making a request to tone down my attack is one thing. Threatening a ban is quite another.

Oh...

Has he said that you contribute "nothing" here? I find that hard to believe.

He doesn't say it outright, but that's the gist of his, "You could be a good member of AllForums if you just did yada yada yada." Trying to be polite, but effectively just using his post as moderator to decide what is good contributions and what isn't. His hatred of me just bleeds through, and not just to me. At least Drew had the good sense to take it out on me with words, instead of force.

He doesn't say it outright, but that's the gist of his, "You could be a good member of AllForums if you just did yada yada yada." Trying to be polite, but effectively just using his post as moderator to decide what is good contributions and what isn't. His hatred of me just bleeds through, and not just to me. At least Drew had the good sense to take it out on me with words, instead of force.
It's true that Vile seems to have a little problem with you. It seems that he still takes everything you say at face value, instead of as the bullshit that it is. :D

I am in deep, everlasting, intimate love with my bullshit. I wouldn't give it up for anything, not even for my secret admirer, Vile.

I am in deep, everlasting, intimate love with my bullshit. I wouldn't give it up for anything, not even for my secret admirer, Vile.
Oh you're asking for it now, Nappy.

I've been asking for it since the day I started posting here. Nobody wants to give it to me though... :(

I have an idea ... let's make this a thread about Napsterbater!!

What? Get with the program bud! Every thread is about Napsterbater!

Holy shit, I can't believe you didn't know that. *holds an L up to his forehead*

:)

I've been asking for it since the day I started posting here. Nobody wants to give it to me though... :(

I don't know WHAT you are talking about.. but i sure hope its doesn't have anything to do with tube steak or skin flutes

I don't know WHAT you are talking about.. but i sure hope its doesn't have anything to do with tube steak or skin flutes
Oh, it does.

He has his eye on you, boy. ;)

C'mon Decka, give in to the dark side!

I don't know WHAT you are talking about.. but i sure hope its doesn't have anything to do with tube steak or skin flutes


I think he wants to take you for a ride on the baloney pony

I think he wants to take you for a ride on the baloney pony
I've never heard that term before - it's a keeper. :)

.... making personal attacks under the veneer of moderation.
Without actually having the balls to take a side in this argument I'd just like to compliment Napster on this sentence. Poetry.

Hey Brooks, so is this.I think he wants to take you for a ride on the baloney pony

Yeah, I agree.

Thanks Brooks, I've been working on my rhetorical skills for awhile now. I'm glad someone approves! :)