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suncrafter
01-19-2007, 11:55 PM
My titanic sequel idea:
It might be cool if they did a Titanic sequel that tells the story of Rose's life AFTER the first movie...
Think of all the stuff Rose witnessed and did in those 90 years... The stock market crash, both world wars, giving birth, her children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, falling in love again after Jack, did she ever see Molly Brown or her mother again? Man's landing on the moon, woman's suffrage movement, civil rights movement. How did she became a pilot? Did she ever get back on a ship? How did she meet her future husband, how did HE die?
DarkFantasy96
01-20-2007, 12:09 AM
That's a good point... They should do that. Of course it could never hope to be as good a movie as the original, but sequels tend not to be.
Evakian
01-20-2007, 02:36 AM
Most movies don't need sequels. Titantic is in that demographic.
BorgHunter
01-20-2007, 02:55 AM
My titanic sequel idea:
It might be cool if they did a Titanic sequel that tells the story of Rose's life AFTER the first movie...
Think of all the stuff Rose witnessed and did in those 90 years... The stock market crash, both world wars, giving birth, her children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, falling in love again after Jack, did she ever see Molly Brown or her mother again? Man's landing on the moon, woman's suffrage movement, civil rights movement. How did she became a pilot? Did she ever get back on a ship? How did she meet her future husband, how did HE die?
Best left to a little thing I like to call...your imagination.
rendova
01-20-2007, 09:06 AM
Without the REAL star of the first movie--the ship---the new movie will be a dud.
Decka
01-20-2007, 06:21 PM
Without the REAL star of the first movie--the ship---the new movie will be a dud.
LMAO
Yea i don't need fake characters in order to "care" any more about what happened on the titanic.. i pretty much get the idea.
Phyrex
01-20-2007, 08:37 PM
Lol, I have vivid memories of this movie, I went to see it with my girlfriend at the time in the theatre. Not ony was it immpossible to get a damn ticket like the first week, after we finially got in she cried her little eyes out at the end. Man, it was not pretty lol. Half the females in the theatre crying, sheesh. I mean I cant really deny that its a good movie, but a sequel? I couldnt handle that, some movies are better left be.
LionelHutz
01-20-2007, 10:18 PM
Without the REAL star of the first movie--the ship---the new movie will be a dud.
Maybe she could take the Lusitania this time.
rendova
01-22-2007, 07:36 AM
Maybe she could take the Lusitania this time.
LOL!
~Sal~
01-22-2007, 07:53 AM
Hell, I must be one of the only people in the world that wanted to push both of them off of the boat half way through. I don't even know if I made it to the end.
rendova
01-22-2007, 08:13 AM
I know I'm a sap, but I always sob during the movie..even tho I've seen it a gazillion times.
Travh20
01-22-2007, 10:38 AM
My idea for a Titanic sequal:
"yep, it's still down there."
The End
My idea for a Titanic sequal:
"yep, it's still down there."
The End
Outstanding!!
Phyrex
01-31-2007, 03:12 AM
They did make a movie called raising the titanic i think, didnt they?
Vilepagan
01-31-2007, 07:01 AM
They did make a movie called raising the titanic i think, didnt they?
It was called Raise the Titanic, and it was based on a book by Clive Cussler.
mikezila
01-31-2007, 07:31 AM
It was called Raise the Titanic, and it was based on a book by Clive Cussler.
i thought Titanic was the prequel....you have to have the ship sink before you can raise it:bike:
Jakey
02-12-2007, 01:22 AM
It was called Raise the Titanic, and it was based on a book by Clive Cussler.
really? i haven't heard about that......
i like the Titanic as it ends, no nid for it to have a sequel.
even if i had seen it so many times, the feeling is always there.....
hope that movie your talking about would be like the first Titanic and could reach the hearts of the viewers.
now, im into an upcoming action movie by Sean Bean. Check its trailer and you'll see, its pretty good! it is entitled OUTLAW!
WindWip
02-12-2007, 02:24 AM
There's a Titanic II in the makings. Take a look
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vD4OnHCRd_4
Phyrex
02-12-2007, 05:57 AM
There's a Titanic II in the makings. Take a look
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vD4OnHCRd_4
WOW, now that is some good stuff lol.
I <3 YouTube
shortstuff
02-12-2007, 08:45 AM
Didn't they already make a movie similar to this with Mel Gibson and he was unfroze...hummmmm
I guess people are going to go watch this as it is the titanic and the story of it. I think I will wait for the video version to come out before I weight in on this one.
sophisticated
02-13-2007, 01:35 AM
There's a Titanic II in the makings. Take a look
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vD4OnHCRd_4
owh...... wew! nice!
when will they release that?
WindWip
02-13-2007, 03:02 AM
lol, that was a joke btw. Those are all scenes from other movies
Phyrex
02-13-2007, 03:58 AM
lol , cmon guys that was fake....
Decka
02-13-2007, 09:13 PM
While titanic did good overall... i never saw the movie. I wanted to be, and i think i am, the only person to never see that movie because i pretty much already knew what was going to happen.
A. the ship was going to go down
B. Leo and whats her face were going to have a same ol' love story
Nothing more you need to know.
DarkFantasy96
02-13-2007, 09:16 PM
While titanic did good overall... i never saw the movie. I wanted to be, and i think i am, the only person to never see that movie because i pretty much already knew what was going to happen.
A. the ship was going to go down
B. Leo and whats her face were going to have a same ol' love story
Nothing more you need to know.
Sure, you know the basic plot, but it's completely different to know the main events and watch all the details... That's the difference between bad movies and good movies.
Decka
02-13-2007, 09:19 PM
It probably is a good movie... i just don't really have an urge to see it... too much of a chick flick.. i saw and heard about hoards of girls going into the movie theatre ARMED with tissues, watching the movie for the 4th time that week.
RE-damned-diculous....
I like some chick flicks.. but thats a bit too much
DarkFantasy96
02-13-2007, 09:23 PM
It probably is a good movie... i just don't really have an urge to see it... too much of a chick flick.. i saw and heard about hoards of girls going into the movie theatre ARMED with tissues, watching the movie for the 4th time that week.
RE-damned-diculous....
I like some chick flicks.. but thats a bit too much
I did actually get tears in my eyes the second time I watched it... but I was in an emotional situation that night so yeah.
Decka
02-13-2007, 10:16 PM
I cried during Forest Gump.. but that was a darned good movie, and it almost type-casted Tom Hanks for the rest of his days as a retard he played it so well LOL...
DarkFantasy96
02-13-2007, 10:18 PM
I cried at the end of King Kong. It was so sad.
Decka
02-13-2007, 10:23 PM
King Kong?... Sad??
weird.
I cried at the end of Star Trek: Nemesis (The last Next Generation Movie) When Data died... *raises hand reluctantly...
Phyrex
02-14-2007, 12:23 AM
King Kong?... Sad??
weird.
I cried at the end of Star Trek: Nemesis (The last Next Generation Movie) When Data died... *raises hand reluctantly...
Rofl, are you serious?
I have never shed a tear for a movie. Ive come somewhat close a couple of times, but not quite. But if you seriously cried over a Star Trek movie, you have issues lol. And the worst ST movie ever at that, besides maybe the first one.
Evakian
02-14-2007, 06:15 AM
i pretty much already knew what was going to happen.
A. the ship was going to go down
B. Leo and whats her face were going to have a same ol' love story
Nothing more you need to know.
Do you avoid most movies with historical background because you know what is going to happen? There is more to movies than the plot alone.
I have never shed a tear for a movie. Ive come somewhat close a couple of times, but not quite. But if you seriously cried over a Star Trek movie, you have issues lol.
Not really, everyone has sensitivities. The best movies are those that touch you emotionally.
rendova
02-14-2007, 09:18 AM
I cried at the end of The Last Samurai, when the war lord finally sees the cherry blossoms fall that he had dreamed about.
silverbulletkc
02-14-2007, 09:34 AM
Geez, do you cry when you're doing long division and you have a remainder left over? :D.
rendova
02-14-2007, 10:31 AM
Geez, do you cry when you're doing long division and you have a remainder left over? :D.
Can I help it if I'm a sappy romantical sort??
PS. The day I cry over math is the day I actually buy and read a book listed on Oprah's book club.
Decka
02-14-2007, 03:02 PM
Rofl, are you serious?
I have never shed a tear for a movie. Ive come somewhat close a couple of times, but not quite. But if you seriously cried over a Star Trek movie, you have issues lol. And the worst ST movie ever at that, besides maybe the first one.
Nemesis was a GREAT Star Trek Movie... guess it depends on whom you ask and on what principles they base a "good movie" on.
As for a particular REASON i cried.. well i had watched Next generation for the whole 7 years, and then all the movies... so you get attached to the characters. Add that to the fact that you are in a movie where you lose sense of reality, and get involved and think that these actors are "real"... and when Data DID die, and the musical orchestra played a sad clarinet as the strings rode on a base chord.... it made me cry. At that moment it felt like i knew Data for the whole time i watched the show, and the movies(a total of about 11-12 years).. and what he stood for and how hard he tried to become human, and now he's gone....
*sniff
Hey BACK OFF ME GUYS!!! I WANNA TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE!!!!
Jakey
02-14-2007, 11:45 PM
Ok, can anyone of you here could tell me if there is really a sequel of the Titanic? And if yes, do you know when will it be out on cinema?
es347fan
02-21-2007, 06:23 PM
Are you still furiously masturbating daily over the movie or have you found a new one to pound to?
Overdose
02-21-2007, 06:34 PM
Are you still furiously masturbating daily over the movie or have you found a new one to pound to?
I just have passion for the things I like. I don't consider that a bad thing and I'd wish you wouldn't try and start a flame-war out of nothing. Thanks. :)
PS: What about my opinion on Titanic don't you agree with? Or did you just post this out of disrespect?
es347fan
02-21-2007, 06:39 PM
You didn't answer the question posed.
Out flame you? Bwahhahahhahhahahahhaahhahahhah!!!
Overdose
02-21-2007, 06:43 PM
You didn't answer the question posed.
Out flame you? Bwahhahahhahhahahahhaahhahahhah!!!
1. The question posed was disrespectful in nature and would be considered, "mean-spirited" and "harassment". All against the rules. I should not be forced to answer a question with such a rude tone and phrasing.
2. Keep avoiding the issue. I thought you were supposed to be the adult? I simply posted another review on my favorite film and you had to follow it up with a rude post.
3. I thought we were over fighting with each other? And I thought you were "leaving the forum for good"...guess that didn't happen. So, why did you bother coming back if you were just going to stir shit up again? It seems the last time you did, you lost your position as moderator. Something to ponder going forward.
es347fan
02-21-2007, 06:58 PM
Didn't notice you leaving as you said you would.
Overdose
02-21-2007, 07:16 PM
Didn't notice you leaving as you said you would.
Great way to dodge all the questions posed at you. Also a great way to ignore the fact that what you are doing is TRYING to create an issue and that you are in the wrong for posting such an asshole'ish remark.
Sparky2
02-21-2007, 08:20 PM
My favorite part of that limp, flaccid movie was the Kate Whinerslet character hanging onto the Leonardo DeCapprio character's hand (she, warm and snug up on the floating pallet, and he, freezing to death in the icy North Atlantic) and declaring, " I promise. I'll never let go Jack. I'll never let go.."
And then she drops his hand, and he sinks two miles to the bottom of the briny deep.
I must admit, I cried.
I laughed so hard I cried like a baby.
Good times.
Good popcorn mainly, but good times too.
:thumbs:
Decka
02-21-2007, 08:39 PM
Its the whole "love story" angle that makes me not want to watch it. Not because i don't like love stories.. but Kate Winslet and Leo Dicaprio? no thanks
DarkFantasy96
02-21-2007, 08:48 PM
Its the whole "love story" angle that makes me not want to watch it. Not because i don't like love stories.. but Kate Winslet and Leo Dicaprio? no thanks
Kate Winslet has nice tits.
Evakian
02-21-2007, 08:51 PM
Its the whole "love story" angle that makes me not want to watch it. Not because i don't like love stories.. but Kate Winslet and Leo Dicaprio? no thanks
Sexy people on a luxurious cruise liner; one of them rich, one poor.
It sounds like a mix of at Victorian English novel and 80s American porn film. What is not to like about the pairing?
Sparky2
02-21-2007, 08:56 PM
My favorite part of that limp, flaccid movie was the Kate Whinerslet character hanging onto the Leonardo DeCapprio character's hand (she, warm and snug up on the floating pallet, and he, freezing to death in the icy North Atlantic) and declaring, " I promise. I'll never let go Jack. I'll never let go.."
And then she drops his hand, and he sinks two miles to the bottom of the briny deep.
I must admit, I cried.
I laughed so hard I cried like a baby.
Good times.
Good popcorn mainly, but good times too.
:thumbs:
Allow me to clarify:
Limp & flaccid, as in:
Character development - stale, formula-matic, and cartoon-like.
Cinematography - impressive, and nearly beautiful.
Historical accuracy - sadly compromised and again, cartoon-like.
Screenplay and dialogue - abysmal and laughable. Sad. Shabby. Pandering to the lowest common denominator, IQ-wise. Cartoon-like, only in that Scooby Doo and Shaggy have uttered more convincing lines than the characters in this inane, trailer-park-friendly epic.
James Cameron should be ashamed, only he was too busy laughing all the way to the bank.
Kate Whinerslet’s breasts - limp and flaccid. And I’ve been around plenty of breasts. I know of which I speak. She’s a terrific actress, but really; keep those flapjacks tucked away, darling.
Leonardo - beautiful. He’ll never look better, nor will he turn as many heads as he did in this film. He deserves the kudos he got for his work in The Aviator and The Departed, he was incredible. But in Titanic? He was jerking off, and the whole cast and crew knew it. Everyone in the theater knew it.
And in your heart, you know it too.
mikezila
02-21-2007, 09:04 PM
Allow me to clarify:
Limp & flaccid, as in:
Character development - stale, formula-matic, and cartoon-like.
Cinematography - impressive, and nearly beautiful.
Historical accuracy - sadly compromised and again, cartoon-like.
Screenplay and dialogue - abysmal and laughable. Sad. Shabby. Pandering to the lowest common denominator, IQ-wise. Cartoon-like, only in that Scooby Doo and Shaggy have uttered more convincing lines than the characters in this inane, trailer-park-friendly epic.
James Cameron should be ashamed, only he was too busy laughing all the way to the bank.
Kate Whinerslet’s breasts - limp and flaccid. And I’ve been around plenty of breasts. I know of which I speak. She’s a terrific actress, but really; keep those flapjacks tucked away, darling.
Leonardo - beautiful. He’ll never look better, nor will he turn as many heads as he did in this film. He deserves the kudos he got for his work in The Aviator and The Departed, he was incredible. But in Titanic? He was jerking off, and the whole cast and crew knew it. Everyone in the theater knew it.
And in your heart, you know it too.
you forgot one thing! everyone knew how it was going to end.:lolhit:
sedan
02-21-2007, 09:27 PM
When Titanic was released the world was in the first years of the Internet craze. Everyone was becoming desensitized to human tragedy and was wasting their lives away online. However, when Titanic was released it struck a cord with the entire planet. It reminded everyone that any day could be your last and that you must live each day to the fullest. This is primarily what captivated the hearts and minds of the entire world. Titanic was released at the very moment the world needed a reality-check. It showed us through this brilliantly crafted film that there is still a need for love and compassion and that our world is still filled with human tragedy, not just computers. For that alone, this movie must go down in history as one of the greatest movies ever created.Maybe the film did all these things for you, but it most assuredly did not do them for the 'entire world'. That you would even imagine this is the case reveals an astonishing level of self-centeredness on your part.
Napster ain't got nothin' on your ego.
Overdose
02-22-2007, 12:10 AM
Maybe the film did all these things for you, but it most assuredly did not do them for the 'entire world'. That you would even imagine this is the case reveals an astonishing level of self-centeredness on your part.
Napster ain't got nothin' on your ego.
The world was transfixed, for the most part, with Titanic when it was released. You can't deny that. Just as Star Wars captivated the hearts and minds of the world in the 1970's, Titanic did so in the 1990's. They were both filling a void.
Star Wars was one of the first movies made in a long time that reminded everyone that good will prevail over evil and focused on optimism. Americans needed that after the struggles and division created during the Vietnam War. Star Wars filled a void.
Clearly, I’m not going to argue that Titanic has had more of a cultural impact and is as popular as Star Wars. However, almost all critics gave Titanic wonderful reviews and the Academy Awards gave it 11 wins (tied for the most wins EVER). It is one of the most highly decorated films of all time. The soundtrack for Titanic shot to #1, as did the single, "My Heart Will Go On" around the entire world. People saw the film again and again and it was on TV's, in magazines and all around everyone 24/7.
Titanic has more sales then Star Wars IV: A New Hope worldwide (inflation included). Titanic comes in at #3 with $2,174,317,554 and Star Wars IV: A New Hope comes in at #4 with $1,436,811,009. Titanic almost has double the amount of worldwide ticket sales. That clearly shows that Titanic did captivate the world and I have drawn my conclusions as to why.
Don't get me wrong, Star Wars is a classic, is FAR more successful overall and I love Star Wars (as do its insane fans who go to Star Wars parades etc. etc.). But come on, Titanic holds its own and it DID draw the attention of the world (speaking in general terms, bite me) when it came out. Not since Gone With The Wind and Snow White did a single movie ever make so much money.
Star Wars and Titanic both filled a void and that is why the world talked about and watched these films so much. And this void is what led to them both becoming successful. Obviously people like these movies for different reasons NOW. But when they first came out it was mostly because people couldn't get enough of the void they were both filling.
mikezila
02-22-2007, 01:55 AM
i have yet to see a Titanic lunch box.
Overdose
02-22-2007, 02:24 AM
i have yet to see a Titanic lunch box.
Hey now, I made it very clear that Star Wars is far more successful and popular. That does not mean Titanic wasn’t hugely successful. And it also does not mean they both don't share similarities into why they both became such huge hits.
But I will say Star Wars is a story that is far easier to appeal to little kids, make merchandise for (you have tons of different characters and everyone has a favorite) and for the simple fact that it is a fantasy story, not a historical story.
So psshhhhh. But I will say that all the Titanic stuff used on the set was sold in minutes, Titanic catalogs were formed and exhibits throughout America of the movie were all present. Plus the sales of the CD was INSANE. It was the first movie soundtrack to reach #1 in the United States and in many other countries. Hell, fake "Heart of the Ocean" necklaces were a huge hit.
My parents bought a Titanic book about how they built the set, filmed the movie, developed the characters etc. etc. Plus a movie poster that was theatre size. Plus authentic Titanic coins and I even remember them getting me a Titanic movie T-Shirt, plus a Titanic videogame for my birthday. Oh the insanity!
rendova
02-22-2007, 10:22 AM
Historical accuracy - sadly compromised and again, cartoon-like.
.
What do you mean, sparky?
I found no historical goofs except maybe one--smoke coming out of the 4th smokestack, which was a dummy, and even then we couldn't be sure we saw it.
The film did A-ok as far as accuracy was concerned, I thought, with the exception of the fictitious characters of Jack and Rose, who were stereotypes.
PS. They DID kinda overload the noble third class passenger bit, and overdid the "boorish" first class as well.
mikezila
02-22-2007, 03:40 PM
I even remember them getting me a Titanic movie T-Shirt, plus a Titanic videogame for my birthday. Oh the insanity!
you got that right!:rolleyes:
Sparky2
02-22-2007, 05:50 PM
What do you mean, sparky?
I found no historical goofs except maybe one--smoke coming out of the 4th smokestack, which was a dummy, and even then we couldn't be sure we saw it.
The film did A-ok as far as accuracy was concerned, I thought, with the exception of the fictitious characters of Jack and Rose, who were stereotypes.
PS. They DID kinda overload the noble third class passenger bit, and overdid the "boorish" first class as well.
This according to author and historian William H. Garzke, 1974 winner of the Vice Admiral E. L. Cochrane Award for excellence in publishing in Marine Technology:
* The greatest inaccuracy in the movie is the depiction of the sinking of the stern that has been shown breaking free of the bow segment and rising to an angle of almost ninety degrees before its final plunge. People are shown holding onto anything they could grab for the elevator ride down to the water surface. Some survivors testified to a large angle, but computations have shown that the sinking angle was never more than 20 degrees.
* The movie's depiction of the reversing of the two reciprocating steam engines was oversimplified. Those who have written about this disaster are not familiar with the operation of those two large engines that are as high as four story buildings. Some authors and the movie have depicted these engines going from full ahead to full reverse. This is not correct. In order to place these very large steam reciprocating engines into reverse, the steam flow to the uni-directional steam turbine has to be shut down. Steam has to be redirected to condensers. This entire operation takes more than 30 seconds to accomplish. This is more time from iceberg sighting to impact. The ship was slowing down by the port turn to avoid the iceberg and its eventual encounter with ice. The engines were finally in reverse when the ship was cleared of the iceberg.
* The steamy romantic interlude in the 25-hp Renault automobile in a cargo hold is pure Hollywood artistic license. The actual cars were crated.
* Furthermore, the couple's access from the boiler room to the cargo hold is not possible as there was a enclosed firemen's passage through those holds without access into those spaces.
* The scenes of the two lovers at the prow with their arms extended is again romantic license as no passenger was allowed in that section of the ship for safety reasons.
Overdose
02-22-2007, 08:00 PM
This according to author and historian William H. Garzke, 1974 winner of the Vice Admiral E. L. Cochrane Award for excellence in publishing in Marine Technology:
* The greatest inaccuracy in the movie is the depiction of the sinking of the stern that has been shown breaking free of the bow segment and rising to an angle of almost ninety degrees before its final plunge. People are shown holding onto anything they could grab for the elevator ride down to the water surface. Some survivors testified to a large angle, but computations have shown that the sinking angle was never more than 20 degrees.
* The movie's depiction of the reversing of the two reciprocating steam engines was oversimplified. Those who have written about this disaster are not familiar with the operation of those two large engines that are as high as four story buildings. Some authors and the movie have depicted these engines going from full ahead to full reverse. This is not correct. In order to place these very large steam reciprocating engines into reverse, the steam flow to the uni-directional steam turbine has to be shut down. Steam has to be redirected to condensers. This entire operation takes more than 30 seconds to accomplish. This is more time from iceberg sighting to impact. The ship was slowing down by the port turn to avoid the iceberg and its eventual encounter with ice. The engines were finally in reverse when the ship was cleared of the iceberg.
* The steamy romantic interlude in the 25-hp Renault automobile in a cargo hold is pure Hollywood artistic license. The actual cars were crated.
* Furthermore, the couple's access from the boiler room to the cargo hold is not possible as there was a enclosed firemen's passage through those holds without access into those spaces.
* The scenes of the two lovers at the prow with their arms extended is again romantic license as no passenger was allowed in that section of the ship for safety reasons.
The inaccuracies expressed by this author are fairly minor. I’d like to point out that some of these new discoveries about Titanic were discovered after this film’s release.
The main point he brings up is that the ship did not sink at 90 degrees. So what? The overall idea was expressed in the movie. The fact is, the back half of Titanic did rise above the water once it detached from the front half and people did hang on until the final plunge into the water. Both of those messages are conveyed in the movie, even if they were not 100% accurate (I'd love to know where he got his facts to support it didn't go to 90 degrees though).
In his second point, he admits that authors (IE: other experts) have claimed the opposite of what he is saying. Clearly that point is disputed. Furthermore, the reason the Titanic did hit the iceberg was because the process they took was ineffective (IE: it took too long) which is what this author is saying. That main message was also expressed in the movie. Again, if other "authors" disagree, who do we trust? No one was there that night and most people who survived have conflicting reports.
And his last three points are ridiculous because they are hardly even worth noting. James Cameron, in order to add depth and further the plot, used artistic license in showing those scene’s in his movie. It also gave the viewers more places to look at in the greatest recreation of the ship ever created.
The fact is, this movie was for the most part accurate and gave a lot of facts and figures about the Titanic throughout the film.
Decka
02-22-2007, 08:34 PM
Titanic sold alot of tickets... mostly middle aged girls who went and saw it over 10 times LOL.
But don't even try to say Titanic somehow is better than Star Wars.. i would disagree completely.. and would agree to disagree.. but COME ON.
I understand some people reject the notion of a movie that has spaceships in it, calling it "geeky" or what not.. hey that's fine, call me a geek, and i'll keep on watching kick-ass flicks.
The only way you can say Titanic is better is by your own personal taste or objective. Bringing sales into the mix is bunk, because while you might have covered the inflation rate, you failed to cover the MASS media mind-fuck to go see Titanic, while the first Star Wars probably received 1/8th of the commercials to go see it.
Star Wars has stuck into our culture FAR more than almost any other series. They have conventions, like someone said.. EVERYONE had a Star Wars lunch box, Star Wars action figures, Star Wars bed sheets, Star Wars posters.. hell, i still have a 6 foot stand-up of Darth Vader in my room.
Both might have "filled a void" (i don't think either filled a void, i think they just both were good movies, well i cant say titanic was good because i havn't seen it, so i'll just take your word for it).. but Star Wars has stuck like glue while Titanic was a one time only thing. Star Wars invented things while Titanic historically acted things...
Star Wars >>>>> Titanic
DarkFantasy96
02-22-2007, 08:40 PM
I've only seen one complete Star Wars movie, and that was Episode One. And I was 9 when it came out so I remember nothing about it.
Evakian
02-22-2007, 08:54 PM
I've only seen one complete Star Wars movie, and that was Episode One. And I was 9 when it came out so I remember nothing about it.
Dear Lord,
Smite this heathen, so that they may rise with you in Heaven and sit at your celestial couch, eating your styrofoam puffs with cheese powder, and poorly produced flat cola. Do this, oh Master Lucas, because while she has sinned, she does not know what offenses she has committed. She needs not only forgiveness, but the opportunity to sit down in the clouds and watch the ultra-definition television to see the orgasmic panoply of storytelling that is the Star Wars series. Do this, despite what those who sit at your right and left hands, Frank Herbert and Gene Roddenberry, tell you, so that you may welcome a new member into The Glorious Society.
May the force be with you.
Yours in George,
Evakian
DarkFantasy96
02-22-2007, 09:00 PM
You are praying to George Lucas...
Evakian
02-22-2007, 09:02 PM
You are praying to George Lucas...
If you pray to Jesus or God, you're addressing the same guy. I don't see why I cannot use a salutation including the man to which I am sending the letter. What about all those kids letters to God?
Decka
02-22-2007, 09:29 PM
You didn't know George Lucas is God?
Overdose
02-22-2007, 09:39 PM
Titanic sold alot of tickets... mostly middle aged girls who went and saw it over 10 times LOL.
That alone could not have made Titanic the 3rd biggest box-office hit ever, making almost twice as much as Star Wars worldwide. One could also argue that a lot of Star Wars tickets came from geeks who saw it over and over again.
I will admit that the teenage girls did make Titanic money. But due to the awards Titanic won (tied for the most Oscar wins ever), the reviews that gave it 5 star ratings and numerous other factors, you cannot say its success was solely or even mainly due to middle aged girls; there just isn't enough of them in the world to have made Titanic such a huge hit.
But don't even try to say Titanic somehow is better than Star Wars.. i would disagree completely.. and would agree to disagree.. but COME ON.
I love Star Wars. It is in my top favorite films. I do, however, think that Titanic is a better film.
Bringing sales into the mix is bunk, because while you might have covered the inflation rate, you failed to cover the MASS media mind-fuck to go see Titanic, while the first Star Wars probably received 1/8th of the commercials to go see it.
The mass media predicted Titanic would flop because of its delayed release. They pushed back its release date and that is code in Hollywood for, “flop.” Furthermore, the first week sales of Titanic was not stunning, but because of how wonderful the film is, word of mouth spread and Titanic kept the top spot for 15 straight weeks (tied the record for the most top weeks ever). The only way a film can have that saying power is if it drew people to watch it. Hype only makes money the first few weeks, not fifteen.
Star Wars has stuck into our culture FAR more than almost any other series. They have conventions, like someone said.. EVERYONE had a Star Wars lunch box, Star Wars action figures, Star Wars bed sheets, Star Wars posters.. hell, i still have a 6 foot stand-up of Darth Vader in my room.
When did I deny Star Wars has stuck in our culture more than any other series? Please, don't jump to assumptions. However, I will point out that Star Wars has been in our culture for a larger amount of time, has created many new movies to revive the interest in it and is a movie that is far easier to make merchandise for since it is a fantasy story and has many characters. But for a historical movie Titanic did have tons of merchandise. Although not as much as Star Wars, it still had t-shirts, posters, books, collector items and a #1 selling CD.
but Star Wars has stuck like glue while Titanic was a one time only thing. Star Wars invented things while Titanic historically acted things...
Clearly you can compare Star Wars and Titanic in some ways and not others. I love Star Wars. But I think Titanic has to be my favorite film.
rendova
02-23-2007, 07:24 AM
This according to author and historian William H. Garzke, 1974 winner of the Vice Admiral E. L. Cochrane Award for excellence in publishing in Marine Technology:
* The greatest inaccuracy in the movie is the depiction of the sinking of the stern that has been shown breaking free of the bow segment and rising to an angle of almost ninety degrees before its final plunge. People are shown holding onto anything they could grab for the elevator ride down to the water surface. Some survivors testified to a large angle, but computations have shown that the sinking angle was never more than 20 degrees.
* The movie's depiction of the reversing of the two reciprocating steam engines was oversimplified. Those who have written about this disaster are not familiar with the operation of those two large engines that are as high as four story buildings. Some authors and the movie have depicted these engines going from full ahead to full reverse. This is not correct. In order to place these very large steam reciprocating engines into reverse, the steam flow to the uni-directional steam turbine has to be shut down. Steam has to be redirected to condensers. This entire operation takes more than 30 seconds to accomplish. This is more time from iceberg sighting to impact. The ship was slowing down by the port turn to avoid the iceberg and its eventual encounter with ice. The engines were finally in reverse when the ship was cleared of the iceberg.
* The steamy romantic interlude in the 25-hp Renault automobile in a cargo hold is pure Hollywood artistic license. The actual cars were crated.
* Furthermore, the couple's access from the boiler room to the cargo hold is not possible as there was a enclosed firemen's passage through those holds without access into those spaces.
* The scenes of the two lovers at the prow with their arms extended is again romantic license as no passenger was allowed in that section of the ship for safety reasons.
That's interesting....I'll concede that no one was allowed on the extreme bow.
According to Walter Lord, in his book The Night Lives On, survivors in the lifeboats saw the stricken ship break in two, bow first, with the stern then rising up into the water, almost perpendicular. This resembled a tall building standing on end. Passengers still on board resembled insects as they scrambled to the stern. The survivors then heard the last sounds from the ship--tremendous crashing sounds as the boilers broke loose and then exploded, and the passengers crying out, "I love you" to their family members. (No wonder this story remains so compelling after all this time, and it's the real reason for the movie's popularity.) The smokestack falling into the water, crushing the swimmers, is accurate.
Then again, some passengers thought the ship stayed intact as she sank. Only when the wreckage was discovered did they realize that the ship did indeed break in two.
mikezila
02-23-2007, 04:43 PM
Dear Lord,
Smite this heathen, so that they may rise with you in Heaven and sit at your celestial couch, eating your styrofoam puffs with cheese powder, and poorly produced flat cola. Do this, oh Master Lucas, because while she has sinned, she does not know what offenses she has committed. She needs not only forgiveness, but the opportunity to sit down in the clouds and watch the ultra-definition television to see the orgasmic panoply of storytelling that is the Star Wars series. Do this, despite what those who sit at your right and left hands, Frank Herbert and Gene Roddenberry, tell you, so that you may welcome a new member into The Glorious Society.
May the force be with you.
Yours in George,
Evakian
amen!
BorgHunter
02-23-2007, 04:49 PM
You didn't know George Lucas is God?
George Lucas is a fucking sellout.
Evakian
02-23-2007, 05:32 PM
George Lucas is a fucking sellout.
Forgive him Father, for he knows not of what he speaks.
~Sal~
02-23-2007, 06:29 PM
My favorite part of that limp, flaccid movie was the Kate Whinerslet character hanging onto the Leonardo DeCapprio character's hand (she, warm and snug up on the floating pallet, and he, freezing to death in the icy North Atlantic) and declaring, " I promise. I'll never let go Jack. I'll never let go.."
And then she drops his hand, and he sinks two miles to the bottom of the briny deep.
I must admit, I cried.
I laughed so hard I cried like a baby.
Good times.
Good popcorn mainly, but good times too.
:thumbs:
Baaaaaaaaahahahah.... no shit... best laugh I've had all day...
God I HATE this soppy, pathetic, badly casted, sentimentally drivelish movie...
Overdose
02-23-2007, 06:45 PM
I love it!!
Evakian
02-23-2007, 06:47 PM
I like pretzels.
~Sal~
02-23-2007, 06:48 PM
I like pretzels.
OKAY then George.
Evakian
02-23-2007, 06:53 PM
OKAY then George.
You don't like pretzels? I sense the dark side in this one.
Then again, I get that feeling with every Canadian.
Overdose
02-23-2007, 07:04 PM
Then again, I get that feeling with every Canadian.
hahahaha ditto
~Sal~
02-23-2007, 07:16 PM
You don't like pretzels? I sense the dark side in this one.
Then again, I get that feeling with every Canadian.
I have an aversion to them much like your president recently developed. As for the dark side, it's endemic to us northerners. It might be due to the -25 degree Celsius wind chill. Keeps us hearty and in league with things that have a warmer habitat.
LionelHutz
02-23-2007, 10:36 PM
As for the dark side, it's endemic to us northerners. It might be due to the -25 degree Celsius wind chill.
That wasn't really the ice planet Hoth, it was Canada!
Evakian
02-24-2007, 07:41 AM
That wasn't really the ice planet Hoth, it was Canada!
Those scenes were filmed in Norway.
*peers*