okay, don't whack my head. This may sound pretty stupid but thankfully, none of you here know me so... I was just wondering about this one and thought to post it here considering it's still a sports query.

How come football is played only in the US and the rest of the world seem to play soccer? Or is it just the name? Well, that's really not true, huh? I know the football is different from a soccer ball for one. I don't play either game but I've watched some over ESPN and have friends who do play soccer. watched some games in high school, too.

While American football is played mainly in the U.S. it is also played in Europe and Australia. A similar game is played in Canada.

I think football (soccer) is more popular because it is a much more egalitarian game. All you need is a ball, even one made of tightly rolled rags, and a pitch of some kind. You don't need specialized uniforms or equipment. Even the poorest people can play soccer.

The rules are also much simpler and the game has far less down time than American football.

I think football (soccer) is more popular because it is a much more egalitarian game. All you need is a ball, even one made of tightly rolled rags, and a pitch of some kind. You don't need specialized uniforms or equipment.

Hey, hold a sec. Youl lost me here. Were you talking about Anerican football or the European soccer? I don't really know whether it's European or not, I was just using that to differentiate. I mean like football like the NFL and soccer like World Cup, like David Beckham? Like touchdowns versus goals? How are these two games similar?

Well, in most of the world, what we call soccer in the U.S. is called football elsewhere, in places like Europe and South America. What we call football is called American football.

Well, in most of the world, what we call soccer in the U.S. is called football elsewhere, in places like Europe and South America. What we call football is called American football.

Eventually they'll come around. Soccer is soccer and football is the NFL.

Well, in most of the world, what we call soccer in the U.S. is called football elsewhere, in places like Europe and South America. What we call football is called American football.

huh? now it's getting more confusing. LOL LOL. I'm honestly not sure if I'm more confused now or before I posted this question. hmmm... well, I guess there's got to be a better way tof ind out if what I ahve in mind is right or not.

Meantime, thanks Frogger and DF. I appreciate it.

p.s. and ES, too. thanks ya'all.

American football players are huge men wearing helmets & plenty of padding. The ball they use is brown & oblong shaped, and can be carried, kicked or thrown.

Socceer players do a lot of running, but wear no protective gear. They use a round, black & white ball. They can't use their hands & do bounce the ball with their heads as well as kicking it.

Originally posted by EasternBarbis
How come football is played only in the US and the rest of the world seem to play soccer? Or is it just the name? Well, that's really not true, huh? I know the football is different from a soccer ball for one.

Football and Soccer are two entirely different sports in the United States. Here, football is the game with the NFL Teams that use the brown, oval-shaped ball and have huge men dressed in pads and such and Soccer is the game using the round ball and two nets at each end of the field

Everywhere else (europe for example), Soccer, as we know it in the United States, is called "football."

Football, as it's known in the United States, is played all around the world too, but it is referred to as "American Football"

Football and Soccer (as the United States calls them) is played everywhere in the world...they are just referred to as different things.

That's as good as an explanation as you can get.

Both sports have their fans, and both have good points and bad.

I wonder tho, if any American football team in the US would pay a guy 250 million like that Beckham fella 250 just got even if there wasn't a salary cap..is ANY player worth that much money?

It might be better spent on the development of younger guys.

All of the salaries paid to professional atheletes in MLB, NBA, NFL & NHL are exorbitant. Since when are any of them worth a fifth of what they're drawing? The same can be said of auto racing. No wonder so many of us simply can't afford a "day at the races" anymore.

If any team is willing to just let go of a star like Beckham, he's likely not anywhere near his prime anymore. Though it's cool to finally have a star player in the MLS, This will likely have no impact on the popularity of Soccer in the U.S.

my thoughts exactly---soccer will always be a third tier sport when it comes to Americans ( that is, citizens of the USA).

Let's face it folks, it's pretty dang boring to watch.

MLS .. isn't that something real estate agents play around with? (multiple listing service)?

In American Football men like Ronnie Lott Cut off the tips of thier fingers so they can get back on the field and play rather then have to go to the hospital
in Soccer men roll around on the field for 20 minutes and are carted off by stretchers when they stub their toes

there was a good post about this a while back

here it is:

Why our football is better than their football

The World Cup is over, and NFL training camps open in less than three weeks.

Which got the FOX Funhouse staff thinking about why we like our football better than the world's football ...

Much better looking trophy given to the champions.

Overtime is sudden death ... first to score, wins.

Championships not decided by the random guessing game that is a penalty kick.

Though it has yet to happen, a Super Bowl champion would be decided in sudden-death overtime.

We won't have to wait another four years for a new Super Bowl champion.

No third-place game played before the Super Bowl.

The French aren't any good at our football.

Football has cheerleaders.

Football has cheerleaders who wear revealing clothing.

No need to make apologies when you tell friends you're a football fan.

Players only carried off field on stretchers for real, serious injuries.

There's no "magic spray" in football.

Our football players can use their hands, and feet, and whatever else they feel like using.

Prevent defense only played in final couple minutes, rather than 90 minutes.

Games not decided by penalty kicks, only kicks that are made by an undersized kicker being pursued by hulking 300-pound behemoths.

Kickers in football are viewed as small and weak, and everybody makes fun of them.

Roughing the kicker penalty doesn't give a team a free shot at a touchdown.

There's no pretending to be fouled.

There's no pretending to be hurt.

A blowout isn't 2-0.

Ties rarely ever happen.

Offsides rule in football easier to understand than offsides rule in soccer.

The U.S. would never lose to Ghana in a game of football.

Fat guys can play.

Unlimited substitutions in football make for a faster, and therefore, better game.

Breaks in play allow for much-needed bathroom breaks.

Bone-crushing hits in our football are considered highlights and applauded. Bone-crushing hits in soccer get players reprimanded, red cards and immediate ejections.

With obvious exception of Philly and Oakland, very few hooligans.

As amazing as this is to admit in light of the 2006 Super Bowl, referees are more competent in our football.

We know exactly how much time is remaining in the game at all times

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5...T=HCP&GT1=8393 (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5774072?FSO1&ATT=HCP&GT1=8393)

I watch both but if given the choice prefer a good soccer game. the action is nonstop unlike American football in which more time is spent doing nothing than in actually playing.

I agree that the acquisition of Bekham will have little lasting effect on the sport's popularity in the U.S. There was a time when Franz Beckenbauer, Giorgio Chinaglia, and Gerd Muller, arguably three of the best footballers ever, were playing for American teams. The game was popular while they played and went back to its usual level of popularity when they quite playing.

Women's soccer is much more interesting to watch than the men's game. Since they don't have the strength of the men the women use much more finesse.

In American Football men like Ronnie Lott Cut off the tips of thier fingers so they can get back on the field and play rather then have to go to the hospital
in Soccer men roll around on the field for 20 minutes and are carted off by stretchers when they stub their toes
They do that because they're trying to get the ref to call a foul.

Let's face it folks, it's pretty dang boring to watch.I feel the same way about football. It's boring to watch any sport you don't like. A lot of people say baseball is boring, but I would much rather watch a baseball game than a football game.

that's true, I'm very unfamiliar with soccer rules and the various little things.

Baseball is the scourge of America. :D

But, between soccer and American football, I'd rather watch American football. I love playing soccer, but it isn't so exciting watching it. Am. Football might have action in spurts, but there is more intensity for the viewer and the game when they get close to the endzone.

The world cup is the only time I follow soccer at all. Football is good and I usually keep up during the season, plus superbowl sunday is just another excuse to party. Baseball is actually my favorite sport though.

They do that because they're trying to get the ref to call a foul.

Sorry, but if the ref doesnt call a foul in the first 5-10 seconds rolling around on the ground for an aditional 5 minutes wont help your cause, and if it does that only makes soccer that much worse, because fouls would be based on level of injury or the players ability to act instead of the rules.

Well, in most of the world, what we call soccer in the U.S. is called football elsewhere, in places like Europe and South America. What we call football is called American football.

Or sometimes US Rugby.

The sport known in US by some as Soccer, is called Football in all the world.

There is no World Championship for the US Football (Rugby) as it is for the World Football, the US sport hasn't reached the worldwide level yet. I believe that one has to be born in the US to like it, for all other countries it is still an alien thing, and I don't think it will ever stick anywhere else.

Women's soccer (Football) is much more interesting to watch than the men's game.

Probably because their breasts bounce over and over for 90 minutes.

As for Football (Soccer), as I said before, one has to be born in the country where it is played as a major sport to like it. I find US Football really disappointing as a sport, it is actually nonstop TV commercials, and every play is over in a few seconds... I like the world football.

Football, as it's known in the United States, is played all around the world too, but it is referred to as "American Football".

??? I have never seen this US game in any TV channel outside the US. There is no Media coverage on this game either in any other country I've been. And kids never play it, in the Sport stores you'd never find a ball that isn't fully round.

. I find US Football really disappointing as a sport, it is actually nonstop TV commercials.

I am sick of the commercials myself.

Pick up trucks, beer, trucks, beer, trucks.
You can tell the audience is made up mostly of men...if you think the NFL is bad for interruptions, try NASCAR. A commerical every 5 laps. They even interrupt green flag racing because of this.

It gets old.

This is what fucking pisses me off. How can you call football, soccer?
It is FOOTBALL, and it's European. I have never heard of the word soccer before. It is ridiculous. Now Americans just used that word when you have no right in using it. It is not football what you guys play, it is a HANDBALL, barely use the foot in the game. Whereas the real football it's all with feet, only the goalie can use his hands. What a fucking crock of shit.

Now Americans just used that word when you have no right in using it.
We have a right to call a sport anything we want.
What a fucking crock of shit.
Intelligent debate abounds.

See, now that American mentality comes into play.
"We have the right to do whatever the fuck we want."

Yea, you certainly do but it doesn't make it right.
It is a European sport, we called it football, and then somehow it got a new name. SOCCER. Not sure why you had to replace its name.

Yea, you certainly do but it doesn't make it right.
There is nothing inherently wrong with using the term "soccer" in place of football when a game called football already exists here.
It is a European sport, we called it football, and then somehow it got a new name. SOCCER. Not sure why you had to replace its name.
We had to replace its name because football already is a different sport here.

"Fixed wing aircrafts were invented by Americans, they call them airplanes, how dare those dastardly British call them *gasp* 'aeroplanes.'!"

See, now that American mentality comes into play.
"We have the right to do whatever the fuck we want."
And now that European mentality comes into play. "You have no right to do anything that is different from us."

We had to replace its name because football already is a different sport here.

"Fixed wing aircrafts were invented by Americans, they call them airplanes, how dare those dastardly British call them *gasp* 'aeroplanes.'!"

Or you could just call it something else instead of taking a name that was already used.

"Soccer" and football are two different sports. (as you call them)

I love soccer, watched a lot of the games live from the world cup this year. The Germany/Italy semifinals game was probably the best game I saw in any sport, period (it beat out the 2002 national championship game between Miami and Ohio State)

In American Football men like Ronnie Lott Cut off the tips of thier fingers so they can get back on the field and play rather then have to go to the hospital
in Soccer men roll around on the field for 20 minutes and are carted off by stretchers when they stub their toes

While I agree it's lame, they aren't doing it because they're pansies; they are doing whatever they can to win the game. Sadly, a lot of the time in soccer it's more beneficial to take a dive and get a free kick then it is to hustle and try to make a good play. I believe that FIFA needs to take a stand on this and start carding players who dive. We need to reward players for trying to make plays, not reward them for giving up on them.

Also, a reason they stay on the ground and leave the field for a bit is they are trying to get rest and get water. They run around for 90 minutes; they're going to be tired.

Or you could just call it something else instead of taking a name that was already used.
Why would we want to do that? Soccer and football are fine terms, and are not going anywhere.

Coming back to this thread, this statement is still funny:
Now Americans just used that word when you have no right in using it.

All of the salaries paid to professional atheletes in MLB, NBA, NFL & NHL are exorbitant. Since when are any of them worth a fifth of what they're drawing? The same can be said of auto racing. No wonder so many of us simply can't afford a "day at the races" anymore.

They are paid to sell tickets and advertising for broadcasts. If people chose not to buy those tickets or watch those broadcasts the salaries would go down. I agree that ticket prices have become ridiculous, but the games are still sold out, at least in the NFL and NBA. Baseball is having more trouble, as is the NHL. Mostly that is due to their labor problems and public relations disasters about steroid use(in the case of baseball). It is a business, and when they stop making money they will reduce the payroll.

Football is no better nor is it any worse than Euro Futbol, it's just different.
It's all a question of how you were brought up, and what culture produced you.

I personally LOVE the NFL, and have been a rabid fan for nearly all my life. I can clearly recall watching the NFL games (on our family black and white TV) with my dad and older brother, back when I was in kindergarten. The very first color TV broadcast I ever saw (at some wealthier neighbor's house back then) was a Packers-Lions match-up, in the early winter of 1964. I can still see the vivid yellow and green of those Packers uniforms and helmets on that big console TV screen just like it was yesterday.

I lived in Germany on and off for years, and witnessed the European mania for their fusball. Those guys ate it up, and you've never seen more dedicated (and inebriated) fans in your whole life. The sheer cardio-vascular athleticism required for soccer is indeed staggering compared to that required for American football, but then again, in our game you have to be able to sustain and incredible amount of impacts and abuse that soccer players need never worry about. (Head-butts from angry Frenchmen aside.)

And just to clarify, I have played both games myself. I played football in junior high (not high school, I wasn’t big enough I guess), and I played pick-up games of football with the soldiers on weekends in Germany as an adult Army aviator. We also played a fair amount of soccer over there, usually with our German partnership units. Those guys always kicked our asses, of course. And they could drink us under the table afterwards.

To this day, I will set aside entire weekends just to watch college and NFL games on TV, but I won’t give a soccer match more than a two second glance. I’ll travel to the local schools and ball fields to watch high school and junior high football games, but I have no interest whatsoever in watching kids play soccer. I admire the athleticism required to play the game, but as a fan there’s just no draw for me. I find it strangely boring.

Does that mean that American football is better than soccer?
No, it just means that it is different, and it therefore all comes down to a matter of preference. You like yellow mustard, I like golden spicy mustard. You are attracted to tall blonde women with big tits, and I am attracted to small-breasted, dark haired women.
Who’s wrong, and who’s right? Neither, I suspect.
We just like what we like.


Long suffering Miami Dolphins fan since 1971.
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Funny thread this has become.

Give me a break guys, I have watched some NFL games on ESPN and am fairly familiar with the Super Bowl fuss and my friends play soccer and they love the World Cup, so I know about the differences between the uniforms and the balls used in the games. Come on, I'm even aware of the social status of football jocks and cheerleaders in American schools. So cut the condescencing crap.

What I was just wondering about is how those games evolved into such, like football is to US as socer is to Europe, maybe even Asia. (I haven't really heard of football being played here, outside of the schools where the diplomats send their kids. (Is soccer played in the US of A?) only that.

(Is soccer played in the US of A?)
We have a national soccer league, one team recently signed on David Beckham to play for them, but that league sucks.

My parents played soccer in high school, I've played it all my life, and many people I know play it or have played it in their younger years. Soccer is not absent from America in the least.

We have a national soccer league, one team recently signed on David Beckham to play for them, but that league sucks.

My parents played soccer in high school, I've played it all my life, and many people I know play it or have played it in their younger years. Soccer is not absent from America in the least.

Good to note. So I guess the notion that football equals US and soccer equals Europe/Asia is not entirely correct. I wonder how that came about.

Beckham has come a long way it seems. He should've stayed with England/UK

Good to note. So I guess the notion that football equals US and soccer equals Europe/Asia is not entirely correct. I wonder how that came about.
Beckham has come a long way it seems. He should've stayed with England/UK

Football, the Football the whole WORLD plays, was played, first in England, then probably the rest of Europe, then South America, later Asia and Africa. The main contenders in every World Cup, have been for most of the time the countries of Europe and South America (include Mexico). The Football or US Rugby in the US is actually a variation of Rugby with the addition of the Helmet and all the funny padding. The US calls it Football because that is the word they starting using a while ago, fortunately it is only used within their borders, and I don't see a reason why others have to complain about this. We call it FOOTBALL and FOOTBALL it is, the football the whole world (but one country) plays and loves. Lets leave the Yanks alone with their game with whatever name they want to call it, and lets not make a big deal out of it.

Haha, the things people argue over. I must say, I once watched an NFL game on TV, for me personally, it was like watching paint dry, and I couldnt understand why it took 2 teams from each side and 3 hours to play. My preference is 'soccer', English Premier League and European Champions League are fantastic, as for Internationals, well, Irelands a bit crap, and I find it a bit boring..

ANd if I may say so Liberal, your disdain for Americans needs no second-guessing As a side-bar, I find that fascinating and still don't understand why Europeans (even the few Canadians and Australians I know) seem to hate 'em

More to the point I asked because I was surprised that when I launched a search using MS Encarata, the search returned, among other things, a short video clip showing players playing football and was surprsed to realize they were actually playing soccer, as I know it. I guess I've always thought of soccer as soccer and football as the NFL game.

LOL, I'm not kissing Yank ass or something Blame it on history.

And I'll say this again one last time - my intention/interest on te subject at hand is not to stir things up Just curious as to the relationship bewtween the etymology of the term football in the US and the genealogy of the Americans, particularly the Whites, whose ancestors are from some parts of Europe.

Enough said on the subject Case closed.

What u on about kiddo

Haha, the things people argue over. I must say, I once watched an NFL game on TV, for me personally, it was like watching paint dry, and I couldnt understand why it took 2 teams from each side and 3 hours to play. My preference is 'soccer', English Premier League and European Champions League are fantastic, as for Internationals, well, Irelands a bit crap, and I find it a bit boring..
Soccer is lame, you must be drunk when you watch it.

Lame ?

Lame ?
Inadequate, useless, weak, unsophisticated, uncultured, bad, etc.

The word has many colloquial synonyms.

Thanks. Cant agree tho, the knockout stages of the Champions League are fantastic. In the English Premiership, the best clash of the season is this Saturday lunchtime, Liverpool v Manchester United, 'ironically', both owned by Americans.

Ooooppsss, I think I'l quote someone,

"Funny what things people argue about"

Or if I may modify that a bit,

"Funny what things guys argue about"

here it is:

Why our "rugby" football is better than their football

There is only one FOOTBALL and you guys had a taste of it last june/july 2006 direct from "Germany"

The World Cup is over, and NFL training camps open in less than three weeks. Which got the FOX Funhouse staff thinking about why we like our "rugby" football better than the WORLD'S FOOTBAL"...

Just a matter of opinion from the very few against what the World likes and loves.

Much better looking trophy given to the champions.

The Champions from country winning a cup in a sport that no one else cares about.

Overtime is sudden death ... first to score, wins.
Championships not decided by the random guessing game that is a penalty kick.

It has worked both ways, but your opinion doesn't really matter to the World.

Though it has yet to happen, a Super Bowl champion would be decided in sudden-death overtime.

The Super Bowl in the US, is just for the US, whatever you choose to decide to get your Champion we can care a less.

We won't have to wait another four years for a new Super Bowl champion.

Once again, this is another example of the mentality of some the US people, for them there are only two countries, in the World they called one of them "US" and the other "World". Well, wake up, there are over 200 countries in the world and each of them have their annual (though we don't use such a silly name) "Super Bowl", and have a Champ every year in our FOOTBALL. Then every 4 years the whole world has a "WORLD" competition, something you don't have with your "Rugby Football".

No third-place game played before the Super Bowl.

You always do thing back wards.

The French aren't any good at our "rugby football".

The French and for that matter, the World don't give a damn about your "rugby football".

Football has cheerleaders.
Football has cheerleaders who wear revealing clothing.

If we want cheerleaders, we go to a "bar", or a "whorehouse". When we go to a Stadium, we want our sport.

No need to make apologies when you tell friends you're a football fan.

?

Players only carried off field on stretchers for real, serious injuries. There's no "magic spray" in rugby football.

'Cause your game is played by brutes with no skills (probably no IQ either). Players want to play till the end of the game, they don't want to be replaced, they give their best. In your game you have like 200 players, and each of them hardly plays a few minutes during the whole game.

Our football players can use their hands, and feet, and whatever else they feel like using.

That is, again, because they have no skills, just brute force.

Prevent defense only played in final couple minutes, rather than 90 minutes.

Your players don't have a plan, 'cause they don't have brains to plan anything anyway.

Games not decided by penalty kicks, only kicks that are made by an undersized kicker being pursued by <B>hulking 300-pound behemoths</B>.

Again, your game always reveals, what you are made of, just punks, anti-social, <B>fat players</B>.

Kickers in "rugby football" are viewed as small and weak, and everybody makes fun of them.

?

Roughing the kicker penalty doesn't give a team a free shot at a touchdown.
There's no pretending to be fouled, There's no pretending to be hurt.

?

A blowout isn't 2-0.
Ties rarely happen.

Why will the "idiot" get 6 points, when he scores only once (touchdown).
Is this another thing of that way of living that has gotten most of you <B>"fat"</B>.
The "supersizing of things", unreal. Logic tells anyone with enough brains: one score = one point.

Offsides rule in football easier to understand than offsides rule in soccer.

Not enough brains to understand the game.

The U.S. would never lose to Ghana in a game of rugby football.

We know that you only play among yourselves, so you don't get beaten once again by a foreign team, remember when the Soviet Union beat the crap of your guys in basketball in the Munich Olympics.

Fat guys can play.

Fat guys should go to see the doctor, or go to the circus, but not do sports were everyone laughs at them. All they do is just push, but will never have the Athlete's capabilities.

Unlimited substitutions in football make for a faster, and therefore, better game.
Breaks in play allow for much-needed bathroom breaks.

"cause not one of them have the strenght and endurance to play 90 minutes.

Bone-crushing hits in our football are considered highlights and applauded. Bone-crushing hits in soccer get players reprimanded, red cards and immediate ejections.

So thought the Neanderthals.

With obvious exception of Philly and Oakland, very few hooligans.

'cause you're chicken shit to stand for your teams.

As amazing as this is to admit in light of the 2006 Super Bowl, referees are more competent in our rugby football.

Your own particular opinion, in your game anyone, even those with an IQ of 60 can be a referee, since the game just looks like the Stampede
of Buffalo's.

We know exactly how much time is remaining in the game at all times

Because the TV staions have taken over your sport for the business purposes.

There is only one FOOTBALL and you guys had a taste of it last june/july 2006 direct from "Germany"

Just a matter of opinion from the very few against what the World likes and loves.

The Champions from country winning a cup in a sport that no one else cares about.

It has worked both ways, but your opinion doesn't really matter to the World.

The Super Bowl in the US, is just for the US, whatever you choose to decide to get your Champion we can care a less.

Once again, this is another example of the mentality of some the US people, for them there are only two countries, in the World they called one of them "US" and the other "World". Well, wake up, there are over 200 countries in the world and each of them have their annual (though we don't use such a silly name) "Super Bowl", and have a Champ every year in our FOOTBALL. Then every 4 years the whole world has a "WORLD" competition, something you don't have with your "Rugby Football".

You always do thing back wards.

The French and for that matter, the World don't give a damn about your "rugby football".

If we want cheerleaders, we go to a "bar", or a "whorehouse". When we go to a Stadium, we want our sport.

?

'Cause your game is played by brutes with no skills (probably no IQ either). Players want to play till the end of the game, they don't want to be replaced, they give their best. In your game you have like 200 players, and each of them hardly plays a few minutes during the whole game.

That is, again, because they have no skills, just brute force.

Your players don't have a plan, 'cause they don't have brains to plan anything anyway.

Again, your game always reveals, what you are made of, just punks, anti-social, <B>fat players</B>.

?

?

Why will the "idiot" get 6 points, when he scores only once (touchdown).
Is this another thing of that way of living that has gotten most of you <B>"fat"</B>.
The "supersizing of things", unreal. Logic tells anyone with enough brains: one score = one point.

Not enough brains to understand the game.

We know that you only play among yourselves, so you don't get beaten once again by a foreign team, remember when the Soviet Union beat the crap of your guys in basketball in the Munich Olympics.

Fat guys should go to see the doctor, or go to the circus, but not do sports were everyone laughs at them. All they do is just push, but will never have the Athlete's capabilities.

"cause not one of them have the strenght and endurance to play 90 minutes.

So thought the Neanderthals.

'cause you're chicken shit to stand for your teams.

Your own particular opinion, in your game anyone, even those with an IQ of 60 can be a referee, since the game just looks like the Stampede
of Buffalo's.

Because the TV staions have taken over your sport for the business purposes.

So, Liberal, when are you getting those Browns season tickets you were wanting?

There is only one FOOTBALL and you guys had a taste of it last june/july 2006 direct from "Germany"
I loved your post. Very nice.

blah, blather, blah

May your genital region be invaded by the fleas from 1000 camels that take up permanant residence there.

:upyours:

LOL, wow! liberal just lit into me over a copy and paste job from Fox sports.
Just a few things, our football players are all college graduates, or in college. many are very intelligent. It is true that a lot are morons, but I am betting not all soccer players are Rhodes Scholars either. I also bet there is a LOT more to remember in football then in soccer. An average NFL playbook can be 300 pages thick, all of which every offensive player is supposed to have memorized and understand. Everything on the field has to be recognized. From the way a defensive back is positioned in relation to the side line to whether the linebacker is 3 or 4 yards from the line of scrimmage. There are complex blocking schemes, complex timing routes between quarterback and receiver. it is very complex, far more complex then soccer.
and there are not 200 guys on a team, there are 53. If you are going to criticize it at least learn a little about it. American kids almost all play organized soccer at least once in their lives, how many European kids play organized football? I think americans are in a far better place to decide which sport is what since we play both, unlike you who speaks from a position of ignorance and pride.

LOL, wow! liberal just lit into me over a copy and paste job from Fox sports.
Just a few things, our football players are all college graduates, or in college. many are very intelligent. It is true that a lot are morons, but I am betting not all soccer players are Rhodes Scholars either. I also bet there is a LOT more to remember in football then in soccer. An average NFL playbook can be 300 pages thick, all of which every offensive player is supposed to have memorized and understand. Everything on the field has to be recognized. From the way a defensive back is positioned in relation to the side line to whether the linebacker is 3 or 4 yards from the line of scrimmage. There are complex blocking schemes, complex timing routes between quarterback and receiver. it is very complex, far more complex then soccer.
and there are not 200 guys on a team, there are 53. If you are going to criticize it at least learn a little about it. American kids almost all play organized soccer at least once in their lives, how many European kids play organized football? I think americans are in a far better place to decide which sport is what since we play both, unlike you who speaks from a position of ignorance and pride.

I know, I read your post before, probably someone else in the Forum posted it right after the Football World Cup was over... You have your Rugby Football, and my real opinion is this, "be happy with what you like", neither one of us will understand or care about the other game (sport), since we were not born where it is played. All the things you say about your sport, I can say the same... Now, I meant no offense to you, but to the "idiot" from FOX, I just hate comparisons, there is no point in comparing one with the other... The only thing that could bother me is the name given to our "Football", but "what the hell", that name doesn't transcend the borders of the US, so, no problem. Now, it would be more accurate to call your game "Handball", since you guys probably kick that thing once or twice in the whole game, now our Football is all about kicking. Using the hands in a game, is far easier than using the feet, and your "waist"...
No, no ignorance or pride... now wait..., well... I do believe that you'd speak with pride about the sport you like and probably love... the same goes for me, I do feel that pride, and why not?

53!, wow, you mean 53 for each team. That is just way too many...
The players in Football, do have to know the plays, and sometimes almost by memory of where a player has to be at a given time, that the one with the ball sends it to a certain place in the field, and the one receiving, knows he has to be there, (I wasn't really a good player, but I kind of master to kick the ball with the right strength and direction so the one on the other side of the field wouldn't have to move too far to try to reach it). They have named many of their "plays", "lab plays", because they have studied them over and over. Also when kicking to the goal, usually they learn by covering all the goal and just leaving a small whole in a corner, and they have to master the kick that would get the ball right there where the goal keeper can't reach, if you observe one of the many games, all of them try to kick the ball to that very corner, whether to the right or to the left... Complexity, hey!, both games can be very complex, there is no "mine is more complex than yours"...

Anyway, this is just getting too long for a reply...

actually your wrong, american football is way more complex then soccer. even the concept of the first down is more complex then kicking a ball into a net.

Actually you're wrong, Rugby Football is way more complex than Football (Soccer). Even the concept of the first down is more complex than kicking a ball into a net.

As I have said it before, "It is just a matter of OPINION".

no, actually it can be proven that football is more complex then soccer. everything about it is more complex. Besides, isnt that what we are here to do, debate opinions?

The problem is, American Football is shit compared to soccer, which is a fact.

lol if you mean "the" shit I agree

No Trav,I mean S.H.I.T.

But you know that already,now a change of subject slightly.
What sort of money are American Footballers on.

American Football is SHIT....Super, Highly and Intensely Terrific.

American Football is SHIT....Super, Highly and Intensely Terrific.

No, your North American "Rugby" Football is plain stinking shit!...

Ha, ha, ha, ha.

American Footy would be more interesting if they didnt wear all that padding and motorbike hats.

.................Super, Highly and Intensely Terrific.