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Deepest Red
01-06-2007, 02:45 AM
Worker-Communist Party of Iran on Saddam Hussein execution
Submitted by WW4 Report on Thu, 01/04/2007 - 23:02.
A communique from the Worker-Communist Party of Iran, Dec. 30, received
via e-mail:

http://www.ww4report.com/node/2994

On the execution of Saddam Hussein

This morning Saddam Hussein, the former dictator of Iraq, was hanged on
the orders of the US government and its hand-made ethnic-religious regime.
For around 30 years, Saddam’s regime was a symbol of the most criminal and
repressive dictatorships in history, claiming countless victims. The
repression, brutality and tyranny of the Ba’ath regime caused enormous
suffering for the people of Iraq, in particular political opponents,
labour activists, communists and ethnic and religious minorities. Tens of
thousands of people were tortured, executed and eliminated under that
regime or brutally massacred by chemical bombs and other means. The
atrocities of Saddam’s regime are truly beyond description and will never
be forgotten.

However, Saddam’s execution is not the end of repression, violence or
brutality. He was not overthrown and executed for his atrocities and
cruelty. He was reared by forces which represent a repressive and inhuman
system. They did not even allow his countless crimes to be revealed in a
tribunal. Just like the trial of Milosevic and similar trials of the
vanquished by victors, Saddam’s trial and punishment was totally political
and served the interests of the US government and its allies in the
region. There was not the slightest shred of justice or search for the
truth in this trial. He was tried in a sham court, which in no way met the
criterion for the trial of one of the world’s biggest criminals. Saddam’s
trial could have exposed many politicians in the West and the Middle East
who collaborated with him, and this is what they prevented. He was
sacrificed so as to assert the unquestioning might of the American New
Order to the world and its rivals; so as to bring the post-cold war world
under the sway of the American New Order. The message of Saddam’s
execution to humanity was that the US-created ethnic and religious regime
in Iraq is essentially the same kind of dictatorship as Saddam’s.

The West’s full support for Saddam’s 30-year rule, its military attack on
Iraq and destruction of civil life, and, finally, the trial and execution
of Saddam exposed the deceitful democracy of the Western governments, in
particular the US government. Despite the attempts of the US and its
allies to cover up, everyone saw the depth of hypocrisy of the Western
governments and the nature of their democracy. Saddam should have had a
fair and public trial. The files of his crimes and those of his local and
international supporters and collaborators should have been opened and
made public.

The Worker-communist Party of Iran condemns the execution of Saddam
Hussein. Execution is deliberate murder, a tool of states against people,
a means of covering up the real causes of violence, atrocity and
oppression, and institutionalisation of violence and vengeance. Saddam’s
execution was, moreover, the brutal declaration to the people of Iraq and
the world that violence, vengeance and denial of people’s rights will be
an integral part of the political system and the state in Iraq.

Worker-communist Party of Iran, 30 December 2006

paulc
01-06-2007, 03:00 AM
Didnt know there was a commie party in iran, there ya go.

Deepest Red
01-06-2007, 03:14 AM
Didnt know there was a commie party in iran, there ya go.

They're basically an underground due to severe repression. Trade unionists were recently arrested as well, but an international campaign led by the British LabourStart helped get em released.

The Iraqi CP was damaged even worse by Hussein. At one time the ICP was one of the largest CP's in the world.

EasternBarbie
01-06-2007, 02:41 PM
Aw, i didn't even have to read the entirety of the statement. just halfway through was more than enough. Oddly, the arguments and statements concerning US government, interests, and the like were familiar. This isn't an entirely baseless statement. I wonder if anyone would dare look into these, or take 'em seriously.

es347fan
01-06-2007, 04:26 PM
Commie Muslims? Do true commies praise Allah?

Evakian
01-06-2007, 04:37 PM
Commie Muslims? Do true commies praise Allah?
Did the article say that the communists were Muslim?

es347fan
01-06-2007, 05:05 PM
Did the article say that the communists were Muslim?

Did you read what I posted? Two questions. Not two statements. Clean your glasses, wipe off the monitor, get your fingers out of your eyes, take another listen in that reading comprehension class, whatever it takes to permit you to clearly view what is on your screen.

Getting pretty damn bad when simple questions can't be posted.

Evakian
01-06-2007, 05:12 PM
I'd be insulted by that attack on my reading comprehension if it wasn't done by a man who was questioning whether a group of communists were Muslim.

Blibblob
01-06-2007, 05:55 PM
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people."
Karl Marx

It doesn't say faith. :D

es347fan
01-06-2007, 06:12 PM
I'd be insulted by that attack on my reading comprehension if it wasn't done by a man who was questioning whether a group of communists were Muslim.

Be insulted then. Simply because the U.S.S.R.'s version of communism decried religion doesn't mean all varieties have.

Even behind the Iron Curtain there were those proclaiming to be commies yet attended underground services with the other faithful.

Evakian
01-06-2007, 06:15 PM
Be insulted then. Simply because the U.S.S.R.'s version of communism decried religion doesn't mean all varieties have.

Even behind the Iron Curtain there were those proclaiming to be commies yet attended underground services with the other faithful.
As described by Marx himself, communism is antithetical to religion.

Blibblob
01-06-2007, 06:54 PM
As described by Marx himself, communism is antithetical to religion.
No he didn't. Marx claimed religion was primarily a tool used to keep the poor happy with their station in life. However Marx made known the fact that hope in faith and religion is at times necessary to man just as opium is at times necessary to those in pain. Make sense? Read what Marx wrote, not the interpretation made by Stalin, hardly a communist himself, or the rhetoric that's been spewed by the right for decades Communism is atheism, the USA is God, God is good, USA good, Satan*cough*Atheists bad, Communism bad.

Evakian
01-06-2007, 07:47 PM
No he didn't.
I am fully aware of his thoughts on religion, I just was attempting to make es uncomfortable. If I say something that is flat not true, it is usually to piss someone off, like FT.

That bitter old man gets mad over everything.

Deepest Red
01-09-2007, 04:16 PM
Commie Muslims? Do true commies praise Allah?

Charming.

Do all residents of the American South burn crosses for fun and marry their cousins.

You should really look outside your narrow world. Your ignorance is embarassing.

The WCPI has suffered quite a lot resisting Islamism, back when your government was still backing them.

es347fan
01-09-2007, 04:41 PM
You're the charming one. Valid questions were posed.

Deepest Red
01-10-2007, 07:38 PM
You're the charming one. Valid questions were posed.

Do muslim commies praise allah was your serious query?

Please tell me you're taking the piss.

Deepest Red
01-10-2007, 07:41 PM
Aw, i didn't even have to read the entirety of the statement. just halfway through was more than enough. Oddly, the arguments and statements concerning US government, interests, and the like were familiar. This isn't an entirely baseless statement. I wonder if anyone would dare look into these, or take 'em seriously.

Fair play to you.

es347fan
01-10-2007, 07:45 PM
Does every question posed to you require that you deliver an antognistic retort when you're unable or unwilling to give some thought to providing a genuine answer?
In very general terms, it would appear that Muslims are imprinted with their religion at a much more fundamental base than are most Christians. As such, it would seem they could be even more unwilling to shed those beliefs in search of a political substiute.
Again, the questions posed are valid, in spite of your insults.

EasternBarbie
01-10-2007, 08:39 PM
Fair play to you.
Sure. I speak from a POV totally different from yours so naturally, we look at things differently. I don't see things the way you do and you don't see things the way I do. Nothing wrong with that.

Freethinker
01-11-2007, 01:40 AM
Originally Posted by es347fan -
Commie Muslims?

Originally Posted by Evakian - Did the article say that the communists were Muslim?

"Did you read what I posted?

It seems he read exactly what you posted.

You said --""Commie Muslims?"", and he replied --""Did the article say that the communists were Muslim?""

How could a response be more germane?

es347fan
01-11-2007, 11:46 AM
The article did not discuss religion. Therefore, my questions.

The questions remain unanswered.