The French are at it again. Apparently a far right group of french people have decided to be charitable and feed the poor and unfortunate. The catch is that they are feeding these poor and unfortunate PORK soup. If you don't know, the Jews and the Muslims don't eat pork. You can imagine that there would be a bit of outrage amongst the Muslims over this act of charity. The police have stepped in and stopped this particular practice.

In spite of the claim that the French do like pork soup and apparently it is and was a common dish for the French. Who are they fooling, it was a racist gesture, but should the police really have stopped the distributing of pork soup?

Comments?

Dammit.


http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?storyid=2007-01-04T195719Z_01_L04234322_RTRIDST_0_OUKOE-UK-FRANCE-SOUP-PORK.XML&type=oddlyEnoughNews&WTmodLoc=Oddly+Enough-C3-More-5

I'm not sure that it was really deliberately racist, but the police should not have stopped it. They should have offered chicken soup along with the pork.

Considering the group that was doing it, it probably was deliberate. However, the police shouldn't have gotten involved at all, no matter how racist or stupid the act was.

There was a thread about this a while back:

http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?t=16691&highlight=soupes

Absolutely hilarious!!

And Darth, if you edit the length of your link description the page won't be so wide. Thanks.

geez if you are starving who cares what it is, just eat it.

Beggers can't be choosers..

Political correctness does not seem to existn in France anymore. As far as I'm concerned, the only good thing to come out of france is Astrapol2.

Political correctness does not seem to existn in France anymore. As far as I'm concerned, the only good thing to come out of france is Astrapol2.

And some very nice wines...

Nobody is being forced to attend that particular soup kitchen. Not a matter for the kops, even if it is racist behavior. The soup kitchen is providing a public service. If they operate along similar lines to those here in the U.S., the menu varies daily depending upon donations received.

Here's the latest:

French judge bars far-right group from serving pork soup to needy, citing discrimination (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20070106-0553-france-porksoup.html)

Guess there's going to be a lot of hungry folks out there. Were it mine, I'd shut the doors & move that soup kitchen elsewhere.

And Darth, if you edit the length of your link description the page won't be so wide. Thanks.


I don't seem able to do that anymore, otherwise I would, dammit.

Dont see the problem. In London some Mosques offer food to the homeless but their throwing their religion at you while your eating, whats the difference.

I suspect that the authorities are acting not out of any desire to be politically correct, but rather out of a desire to maintain order and avoid rioting.

I don't seem able to do that anymore, otherwise I would, dammit.Oh. When you click OK after pasting the URL a long string of text appears, the second part of which is the link description. You can edit this description to say whatever you like. For example http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20070106-0553-france-porksoup.html
can be edited to say Link (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20070106-0553-france-porksoup.html) or www.signonsandiego.com/news (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20070106-0553-france-porksoup.html).

I suspect that the authorities are acting not out of any desire to be politically correct, but rather out of a desire to maintain order and avoid rioting.

That's a very good point.

I suspect that the authorities are acting not out of any desire to be politically correct, but rather out of a desire to maintain order and avoid rioting.
they could also avoid rioting by giving the Muslims what they really want-Sharia....or just deport them all. given the Gallic penchant for preserving their culture, i thought the former is more likely until now.

i'm starting to lose respect for the cheese eating surrender monkeys.

Europe is being Muslim ised because no one here wants to be called a racist, everyday Muslims are bitching about somethimg.
Equal rights this, equal rights that.
If your white your ignored.

Well Spain was ruled by Muslims for centuries. Why do you think the Spanish are so dark and swarthy looking? And all the hard to pronounce Spanish words have their roots in Arabic.

It was thats true. Most dark Spaniards are from the south, same as the Italians, Im not sure if its the climate, the Muslim blood or a combination of both.

same thing here, but we're still 85% of the population (depending on the formula).

out here, some muslim cabbies are bitching because ppl are complaining about Omar refusing service to ppl that have dogs, or even a closed container of alcohol.

You think it's just the Muslim cabbies who do that? Would you be indignant about a friend not allowing dogs in their car? Maybe they don't want their car to be dirty and furry and dog smelling, since a lot of their customers would not tip them highly or at all after riding in their cab later, especially if it was raining outside. That wet dog smell is horrible! As for the closed containers of alcohol, I don't know the story or the reasoning behind that one.

sorry about that, was gonna thro up a link, but got a 404.

You think it's just the Muslim cabbies who do that? Would you be indignant about a friend not allowing dogs in their car? Maybe they don't want their car to be dirty and furry and dog smelling, since a lot of their customers would not tip them highly or at all after riding in their cab later, especially if it was raining outside. That wet dog smell is horrible! As for the closed containers of alcohol, I don't know the story or the reasoning behind that one.
we're talking service dogs here DF..and pets in carriers at airports.

Omar has a problem with dogs because Mohamed was a cat person, and the alcohol is them forcing their religious ban on it on us.

I'm pretty sure you're exaggerating this. Could you link me to an article or something?

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070104/D8MEJEU00.html

me exaggerate? never!...ok rarely...would you believe only on Tuesdays?:lolhit:

A cab is a vehicle hired, with driver, for transportation to a destination. If the customer does not violate laws or safety regulations in what they carry, then IMO, the cabbie is to preform the task hired for or suffer the consequences of that behavior.
Would anyone tolerate the same from a pharmacist who refused to dispense a particular medication based upon cultural or religious beliefs?

Hmm... I wonder how many taxi drivers actually refuse fares because of this. The article was rather vague on that count. It says about 100 people are denied cab service each month, but that could mean anywhere from 1 to 100 drivers doing the denying. Anyways, I don't think this is anything like a widespread problem...

Hmm... I wonder how many taxi drivers actually refuse fares because of this. The article was rather vague on that count. It says about 100 people are denied cab service each month, but that could mean anywhere from 1 to 100 drivers doing the denying. Anyways, I don't think this is anything like a widespread problem...
one is one too many. if i can't refuse to rent a house to an unmarried couple, they can't refuse service (in housing or public accommodation) based on their own religion either.

You can't refuse to rent a house to an unmarried couple? When was that law passed?

about 1968

http://www.hud.gov/complaints/housediscrim.cfm

Hmmm, I didn't know that. But renting a house is certainly not the same as taking a cab.

Anyways, I agree with you about the taxi drivers, and I think the article said that they'd face license revocation if they denied service to people for those reasons.

A while back there was a thread about pharmacists not distributing RU486.
Some said they had to and some said it's a private business matter.
I think this is a similar situation, but I bet most of us will be very inconsistent when comparing them.

Of course theit objective is to avoid rioting, since the people organizing this soup are just willing to raise racist polemics. BTW "pork soup" is not a traditional dish in France.
Silverbullet - thanks but I swear there are much more good things that come from France !

A while back there was a thread about pharmacists not distributing RU486.
Some said they had to and some said it's a private business matter.
I think this is a similar situation, but I bet most of us will be very inconsistent when comparing them.

That is a valid comparison, and I think I feel the same way about both these things. Christian pharmacists should sell RU486 and Muslim cabbies should allow dogs and alcohol in their cabs.

Originally posted by Astrapol2
Silverbullet - thanks but I swear there are much more good things that come from France !
Sorry, I just got out of a bad experience with a french roommate, so I'm still a little ticked about that. I'm pretty sure, too, that there are much better things in France than what I gave credit for.

Well, it would be nice if they had another alternative to pork soup. If they really cared about the poor, you would think they would at least respect their religous beliefs.

And in regards to the Muslim cabbies, ff they don't want to deal with alcohol or dogs, they have to get out of that field of work and find another job. It's as simple as that.

Yea, as a treat their gonna offer them, ham subs.

I had a Brit tell me the other day that the only reason Americans dislike the French is because of French national pride. Americans apparently expect the French to speak English and treat them like gods, and that he himself loves the French, just as he loves America and Britain. I thought that was quite remarkable.

Americans think they're the best, and French people think they're the best too. Most other countries don't have anywhere near the degree of national pride which we and the French have.

And the Irish are the best.
Your right DF.

A while back there was a thread about pharmacists not distributing RU486.
Some said they had to and some said it's a private business matter.
I think this is a similar situation, but I bet most of us will be very inconsistent when comparing them.I wonder who you have in mind.

The muslim cab driver's story has been a huge one around here and virtually no one, with the exception of the drivers themselves, thinks they have the right to refuse service on religious grounds.

And the Irish are the best.
Can't argue with that, they even got a paddy in the White House!

Must do security on the gate, Bush says their limeys, Irish name, but what da fuck,suits me.

And the Irish are the best.
Your right DF.
yeah, that's why most of them are over here:banana:

Americans think they're the best, and French people think they're the best too. Most other countries don't have anywhere near the degree of national pride which we and the French have.
i can't think of one country that doesn't cling to some item of national pride, no matter how distant in the past.

even the Iranians cling to Cyrus and the Persian Empire like their lives depended on it.

Of course theit objective is to avoid rioting, since the people organizing this soup are just willing to raise racist polemics. BTW "pork soup" is not a traditional dish in France.
Silverbullet - thanks but I swear there are much more good things that come from France !
could it (pork soup) be a regional thing? i keep seeing it referred to as "country fare". but if you're not familiar with it, it's no big deal-green bean casserole is supposed to a holiday tradition here, but i've never seen it.

You've never seen green bean casserole?? Odd.

i can't think of one country that doesn't cling to some item of national pride, no matter how distant in the past.
The real question is why.

Take Mexicans for example. I've never witnessed a group of people take more pride out of coming from shitball nation, and for the life of me, I can't understand why....

I mean, seriously, WTF are these people so "proud" of??? If I were a Mexican, I'd hang my head in shame, and if approached by anyone, I'd pretend I was Italian (not that being from Italy is that much better, but it is indeed a step up, nonetheless).

You don't choose the country of your birth, so it's ridiculous to be proud or ashamed of it.

Agreed, but you can be proud of the accomplishments. In certain cases (as in the aforementioned above) there's nothing to be proud of, period.

haha

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Without Mexican food we wouldn't have Taco Bell! I consider that an accomplishment. :D

whats taco bell

Taco Bell is to Mexican food what McDonald's is to American food, basically. And ohhh god their food is orgasmic. -drools- Oh steak quesadilla, you're my best friend...

I just knew youd like 'hot and spicey', why is that.

Oh no, I can't stand spicy food. Taco Bell is like a bland version of real mexican food, and then there's hot sauces if you want to spice it up a little or a lot: mild, medium, hot, and fire.

Oh right.
Sorry, we dont get a lot of Mexicans here, hehe.

I have to wonder why Prae, you dislike Italy so much. It is one of the best places in the world to live.

Very very expensive place Evak.

could it (pork soup) be a regional thing? i keep seeing it referred to as "country fare". but if you're not familiar with it, it's no big deal-You're telling a Frenchman he might not be aware of traditional French cuisine? What are you, an ugly American?green bean casserole is supposed to a holiday tradition here, but i've never seen it.Yes, but you are aware of it's existence and you know that for many Americans it is traditional -- and America has a far more heterogeneous culture than does France.

Mexican food? It's Texan and Texan only. Tacos, nachos, burritos, chimichangas, etc. all originated in Texas by Texans, not Mexicans.

Very very expensive place Evak.
Mmmmmm, Italian food...

Oh come on, you can't tell me that tacos and whatnot have only existed since Texas broke away from Mexico, what 160 years ago?

From Wikipedia:
About Mexican Food:
Most of today's Mexican cuisine is based on pre-hispanic traditions, including the Aztecs and Maya, combined with culinary trends introduced by Spanish colonists. Quesadillas, for example, are a flour or corn tortilla with cheese (often a Mexican-style soft farmer's cheese such as Queso Fresco), beef, chicken, pork, and so on. The indigenous part of this and many other traditional foods is the chile pepper. Foods like these tend to be very colorful because of the rich variety of vegetables (among them are the chili peppers, green peppers, chilies, broccoli, cauliflower, and radishes) and meats in Mexican food. There is also a sprinkling of Caribbean influence in Mexican cuisine, particularly in some regional dishes from the states of Veracruz and Yucatán. The French occupation of Mexico also yielded some influences as well: the bolillo (pronounced bo-lee-yo, with the "o" as in "bore"), a Mexican take on the French roll, certainly seems to reflect this.

About tacos:
A taco is a traditional Mexican dish comprised of a rolled or folded, pliable maize tortilla filled with an edible substance. According to the Real Academia Española, the word taco originally meant (and still means) a plug (rolled paper used to plug a hole) or paper or cloth patch for musket balls [1]. Care should be taken when using the word taco outside of Mexico, as the RAE lists 27 possible meanings for the word. A taco is normally served flat on a tortilla that has been warmed up on a comal; since the tortilla is still soft, it can be folded over or pinched together into a U-shape for convenient consumption. In the variant known as the taco dorado (fried taco), flauta (Flute in English, because of the shape), or taquito, the tortilla is filled with pre-cooked chicken or barbacoa, rolled into a cylinder and deep-fried until crisp.

Looks like Mexicans didnt eat till they got shot of their Northern neighbours.

They didn't get real food until the Spaniards brought over their horses.

Mmm, horse meat.

could it (pork soup) be a regional thing? i keep seeing it referred to as "country fare". but if you're not familiar with it, it's no big deal-green bean casserole is supposed to a holiday tradition here, but i've never seen it.
In Michigan? That's fucking strange. I always thought green bean casserole was a wholly Cajun thing. My mom makes it for all of the holidays. Very yummy.

Nah, green bean casserole is a New England and Mid-Atlantic thing too. My whole family makes it.

I think the reason green bean casserole became such a popular dish was the fact that the recipe is on the back of the can of Campbell's cream of mushroom soup.

Agreed, but you can be proud of the accomplishments. In certain cases (as in the aforementioned above) there's nothing to be proud of, period.

There are many things they have to be proud of Prae. Here's one small example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_Calendar

There are many things they have to be proud of Prae. Here's one small example.
The Aztec Calendar, and entire Aztec civilization were created by, not the Mexicans, but the Aztecs.

I think Prae wants to know about the accomplishments of Mexico since it broke off from Spain, accomplishments that don't include losing a war to the US and copulating like bunnies.

The Aztec Calendar, and entire Aztec civilization were created by, not the Mexicans, but the Aztecs.

The Aztecs didn't live in Lithuania.

The Aztecs didn't live in Lithuania.
They were not Mexicans, they were Aztecs.

It is like Andrew Jackson praising the accomplishments of the Seminoles.

You're telling a Frenchman he might not be aware of traditional French cuisine? What are you, an ugly American?Yes, but you are aware of it's existence and you know that for many Americans it is traditional -- and America has a far more heterogeneous culture than does France.
hey, it's the French in me.

They were not Mexicans, they were Aztecs.

It is like Andrew Jackson praising the accomplishments of the Seminoles.

You're splitting hairs.

Lithuania? Did I miss something?

Blib getting owned by DF? That's some hilarious shit right there.

I think the reason green bean casserole became such a popular dish was the fact that the recipe is on the back of the can of Campbell's cream of mushroom soup.
good call!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_bean_casserole

Blib getting owned by DF? That's some hilarious shit right there.

Thanks dear. :D

The Aztec Calendar, and entire Aztec civilization were created by, not the Mexicans, but the Aztecs.

I think Prae wants to know about the accomplishments of Mexico since it broke off from Spain, accomplishments that don't include losing a war to the US and copulating like bunnies.
;)

The Aztecs didn't live in Lithuania.
True, but they also weren't "Mexicans", however - your point is well taken.

That aside, after Montezuma’s time (circa 1400), I can't think of **one** accomplishment that's been noteworthy. Perhaps I’m all washed up, but somehow, I don't think so...

You're splitting hairs.
Splitting hairs?

Mexico didn't come into existence until long after the Aztec empire had faded. Mexico has been around since 1810, the Aztec Empire crumbled in the first half of the 16th century.

Saying Mexican accomplishments include the Aztec Calendar is like saying that Inuit culture is the product of Canadian ingenuity.