Before I start this thread, I want it noted that I'm mostly addressing college-aged women. It's time some of them are put in their place and cease their bitchy reigns of terror.

Examples:

A good friend of mine has dated 4 women. All cheated on him.
Another good friend was dating a girl for 2 years, he had a ring picked out and everything. She suddenly dumped him just before Christmas out of the blue. He's devastated.
My own ex has dumped me out of the blue... well, twice now. :@@:


Lesson #1: Men are sensitive too. We may appear emotionally distant or what have you, but we are very much capable of being hurt. We have hearts just like you do. Don't dump us without giving any hint that you're unhappy with us. We can't always read the signs, so use your vocal chords. Men possess ears, not telepathy.

Lesson #2 There is no excuse for cheating. The man who gets cheated on is unfairly blamed. "Well, you weren't giving me enough attention and weren't emotionally available, so that's why!" Well guess what. A cheater is a cheater. If you have reasons for feeling like cheating, TALK ABOUT IT. Communication is vital, can't we agree on that? You feel that your man is too distant? Tell him! You suspect he might be cheating? Discuss! There is no excuse for cheating or a sneak-attack dumping.

It's also been my experience that women are allowed to get away with more shit and are far less likely to be held accountable.

Example:
A girl I know broke her arm in three places due to a drinking accident. A few days later she says "I'm getting therapy to fix my problem and I hope you all still love me". Well boo-hoo, I didn't buy it. But everyone else was like "Aww we love you too!". A year later she's back in the hospital for alcohol poisoning. A month after that she's passed out on a carpet.

Example #2
My own girlfriend had gotten too drunk and started shoving me, trashing my dorm room, and calling me an asshole (all I had done was walk her back to her room and tell her that I was disappointed she drank so much). I pushed her out of my room and told her to leave. I over-estimated her intoxication, as she actually fell since she could barely walk to begin with. I helped her up and apologized. She drunkenly told her friends I had hit her. The next day, things were clarified. Yet instead of her behavior being acknowledged, I was banned from her friends' apartment and accused of being abusive.

Example #3
I was told by a girl that I drink too much and whenever I'm in her apartment she does her best to send me away. Yet just a few weeks ago I catch her trying to climb over a 3rd floor balcony to, apparently, commit suicide. Good thing I was around. She had prior to this repeatedly said, half-jokingly, that she is suicidal. No one has approached her about it.

And of course there's the whole divorce issue where the mother is more likely to get custody of the children or a woman with exposed cleavage will get a job over a higher-qualified man, blah blah blah. You know the rest.

The point I'm making is that yes, women do deserve equal rights. But many seem to be abusing this and taking advantage in this day-and-age. Which sucks because men are easily susceptible to these tricks. Take off your top and we believe anything you say. That ain't us, that's biology. So ladies, those that are actually guilty of any of these things, please stop. Because we as men can't stop you. Most of us like breasts far too much.

(Note: Some men are guilty of similar such behaviors. But we've seriously cut back. Plus we have a certain thing called biology to overcome, whereas you do not. It's been proven that a man's brain lights up EVERY TIME he sees ANY woman. We always have a sexual response, big or small. Women don't.)

Oh god, here comes another barrage of woman-hating...

People make mistakes. Women and men.

There are bad people in both genders.

Backside of the hand. Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman.

Well the girl might be a masochist and she might be asking for it... Literally.

I did eventually learn that most guys wouldn't hit me out of anger, no matter what I did.

So then I learned how to use my vocal chords to ask for it instead of my behavior. ;)

Well the girl might be a masochist and she might be asking for it... Literally.

I did eventually learn that most guys wouldn't hit me out of anger, no matter what I did.
I think most girls probably aren't. Domestic abuse is domestic abuse, and masochists are probably the exception rather than the rule.
So then I learned how to use my vocal chords to ask for it instead of my behavior. ;)
An easier, usually more successful, and better method. :-P

An easier, usually more successful, and better method. :-P

You would know. ;)

You would know. ;)
Well, I can't say anything about the former's efficacy, as I've never observed it myself. The latter, however, works at least on me, and I imagine on most reasonably enlightened guys.

It's also been my experience that women are allowed to get away with more shit and are far less likely to be held accountable.

So far so good.

a woman with exposed cleavage will get a job over a higher-qualified man, blah blah blah. You know the rest.

Pure unadulterated bullshit.

I don't stand with you on cheating. People fuck. We need to get over it.

They can fuck whoever they want as long as it's not cheating.

edit: I meant to say NOT cheating, instead of NICE cheating

You know what I don't believe? "Once a cheater, always a cheater."

If that's true, my boyfriend's in big trouble. I think people cheat when they are unhappy in a relationship and either can't or won't leave or talk about it. I know I used to cheat because I felt smothered by boyfriends who got too serious too fast, but I didn't want to leave them because I did care about them. And then there was the guy who tried to control me all the time and yelled at me when I even looked in the vague direction of another guy. Any time I tried to break up with him he cried and begged me to stay, etc.

Eventually I found out that he was married, and then he stole a bunch of stuff from my brother and disappeared.

Oh god, here comes another barrage of woman-hating...

People make mistakes. Women and men.

There are bad people in both genders.

Agreed, as I mentioned men and women are guilty of many of the same things. And if you're the type of woman that cheats/lies and gets away with it because you are female, then and only then do I hate you. My thread is NOT intended to bash women, not in the least. But this generations females are getting away with far more than any male, largely because they're "cute" or "daddy's little girl", etc. These are the only ones I am attacking.

And sorry, Napster... "people fuck" is not any kind of defense. People are allowed to fuck as long as it in turn doesn't fuck someone else over. Committed relationships should involve, y'know, commitment. No excuses.

They can fuck whoever they want as long as it's nice cheating.

Right...

Agreed, as I mentioned men and women are guilty of many of the same things. And if you're the type of woman that cheats/lies and gets away with it because you are female, then and only then do I hate you. My thread is NOT intended to bash women, not in the least. But this generations females are getting away with far more than any male, largely because they're "cute" or "daddy's little girl", etc. These are the only ones I am attacking.

Well I guess you hate me then, because I've certainly done my share of cheating and for sure lying, although I haven't always got away with it. Also, my breasts tend to help get me free stuff. Don't tell me that you wouldn't take advantage of that!

And sorry, Napster... "people fuck" is not any kind of defense.
It most certainly is. There's a lot of biology and psychology wrapped up in those two little words. Just because it pisses you off doesn't make the age-old reproductive mechanisms buried deep within your brain go away. Do yourself a favor and pick up the book, Sperm Wars. People just aren't as in control of themselves as they would like to think.

You know what I don't believe? "Once a cheater, always a cheater."

If that's true, my boyfriend's in big trouble. I think people cheat when they are unhappy in a relationship and either can't or won't leave or talk about it. I know I used to cheat because I felt smothered by boyfriends who got too serious too fast, but I didn't want to leave them because I did care about them. And then there was the guy who tried to control me all the time and yelled at me when I even looked in the vague direction of another guy. Any time I tried to break up with him he cried and begged me to stay, etc.

Eventually I found out that he was married, and then he stole a bunch of stuff from my brother and disappeared.

If you cared about them you wouldn't cheat behind their backs. This is a perfect of example of someone that wants to emotionally please everyone, but in the process pleases no one.

If you had a bf that was too controlling, you should talk to him about it. If it still didn't change, dump him. Feeling smothered? Same thing. It's so damn simple. But not easy, I'll give you that. If a guy gets all weepy, maybe he had no idea what he was doing wrong. Maybe both of you failed to communicate. Tell him what he did wrong. Tell him what needs to be fixed. If he can't do this, THEN dump him. Tears or no tears.

Committed relationships should involve, y'know, commitment. No excuses.
The commitment you think a relationship should entail may well be restrictive and cloying to a woman. If a woman cheats on you, it's probably because you either weren't doing enough to keep her interested in you, or you just picked a bad egg. But I would look seriously at option one before using option two to rationalize your ineptness with women.

Right...
Are you saying cheating is ok?

It most certainly is. There's a lot of biology and psychology wrapped up in those two little words. Just because it pisses you off doesn't make the age-old reproductive mechanisms buried deep within your brain go away. Do yourself a favor and pick up the book, Sperm Wars. People just aren't as in control of themselves as they would like to think.

I've taken my share of psych courses, and you are right. People don't have as much control as they'd like to think. Take myself for example. I've been drunk off my ass and a girl (who wasn't my girlfriend) grabbed me and started making out with me. I'll admit it took a total of 3 seconds to stop her, but look at that... I overcame the impulse. I won't deny every fiber of my being wanted to take that girl to my room and fuck her for hours. But I had enough to control to stop, even while piss drunk, and do the right thing. And I refuse to think that I'm "special" and no one else can do this. Humans have impulses, but we also have the free will to deny them more often than not.

I've taken my share of psych courses, and you are right. People don't have as much control as they'd like to think. Take myself for example. I've been drunk off my ass and a girl (who wasn't my girlfriend) grabbed me and started making out with me. I'll admit it took a total of 3 seconds to stop her, but look at that... I overcame the impulse. I won't deny every fiber of my being wanted to take that girl to my room and fuck her for hours. But I had enough to control to stop, even while piss drunk, and do the right thing. And I refuse to think that I'm "special" and no one else can do this. Humans have impulses, but we also have the free will to deny them more often than not.
Agreed.

Hmm... I've been told that my OCD makes impulse control much harder. I still manage to resist cutting my fingers off with a paper cutter. That's a recurring one.

The commitment you think a relationship should entail may well be restrictive and cloying to a woman. If a woman cheats on you, it's probably because you either weren't doing enough to keep her interested in you, or you just picked a bad egg. But I would look seriously at option one before using option two to rationalize your ineptness with women.

A woman could have a perfectly good reason to sleep with someone else. But first she needs to dump the person she's dating. A woman (or man) failing to communicate his/her unhappiness and instead screwing around should not be acceptable.

Hmm... I've been told that my OCD makes impulse control much harder. I still manage to resist cutting my fingers off with a paper cutter. That's a recurring one.

Hah, funny you mention that as I actually do have OCD myself. It took 2 years of therapy and medication, but I have since regained control without any treatment. I've always been fascinated by it.

A woman could have a perfectly good reason to sleep with someone else. But first she needs to dump the person she's dating. A woman (or man) failing to communicate his/her unhappiness and instead screwing around should not be acceptable.

You never know what the hell could be going on. They could both be drug addicts, the guy could be abusive, they could both have mental problems... I know that my bipolar and OCD and trust issues and basically everything about me cause horrible problems in relationships. Before I really realized the scope of those problems it was understandably a lot harder to recognize what was going on. And I think I can be forgiven for doing stupid things during relationships from ages 13-16. I mean, how many people actually didn't make relationship related mistakes at that age?

You never know what the hell could be going on. They could both be drug addicts, the guy could be abusive, they could both have mental problems... I know that my bipolar and OCD and trust issues and basically everything about me cause horrible problems in relationships. Before I really realized the scope of those problems it was understandably a lot harder to recognize what was going on. And I think I can be forgiven for doing stupid things during relationships from ages 13-16. I mean, how many people actually didn't make relationship related mistakes at that age?

Alright, you're an exception. If a person has mental problems that affect the relationship and you're that young and inexperienced, I can cut you some slack. That's a two hit combo to be sure. I'm only talking about people that are relatively mature enough to make basic, proper choices in relationships. Those that know better yet still disregard decency.

They can fuck whoever they want as long as it's nice cheating.


oh really, hummmm going to have to explain this one...
What is nice cheating

I hope you ment not cheating.....

I've taken my share of psych courses, and you are right. People don't have as much control as they'd like to think. Take myself for example. I've been drunk off my ass and a girl (who wasn't my girlfriend) grabbed me and started making out with me. I'll admit it took a total of 3 seconds to stop her, but look at that... I overcame the impulse. I won't deny every fiber of my being wanted to take that girl to my room and fuck her for hours. But I had enough to control to stop, even while piss drunk, and do the right thing. And I refuse to think that I'm "special" and no one else can do this. Humans have impulses, but we also have the free will to deny them more often than not.
You know damn well that alcohol doesn't make you do anything you don't want to do. Reproductive biology will.

oh really, hummmm going to have to explain this one...
What is nice cheating
I meant NOT cheating, I edited it.

They can fuck whoever they want as long as it's not cheating.

edit: I meant to say NOT cheating, instead of NICE cheating

Well, I'll reply to your edited statement, then.

Go ahead, tell people what they can and cannot do. I've never felt the allure of beating my head against a brick wall, but maybe that's more your bag of tea.

You know damn well that alcohol doesn't make you do anything you don't want to do. Reproductive biology will.

And YOU know damn well that alcohol lowers ones inhibitions which gives us less control over our reproductive biology.

When I was sober I would never have considered actually cheating on my girlfriend. But with enough booze in me it took a few seconds to push that other girl off of me, therefore rejecting my biological impulse which was all the more harder to do because of the alcohol.

And YOU know damn well that alcohol lowers ones inhibitions which gives us less control over our reproductive biology

We don't control our reproductive biology. It controls us. You didn't fuck her that night, because your instincts weren't hit in just the right way. It's a little bit more complicated than a simple drive to "Go fuck and reproduce." We aren't just wired to have sex, we're also wired to mate with women who have good genes.

I have zero tolerance for cheaters. My girlfriend knows if she ever did that to me, she'd be gone for good. It's happened to me before and really, it's not any fun at all.

Well yeah but I don't think that just because someone cheated in the past, on another person, means that they'll definitely do it again.

The only reason you are alive is to reproduce, in the nihilistic sense anyways.

Do with that what you may, lol.

I'm a mother of 2 sons...25 and 20. Both of them are pretty "macho" and I never realized how vulnerable my youngest was until he met this girl about a year ago. He was so in love with her I believe there wasn't anything he wouldn't have done for her. She broke his heart into a million pieces and I thought he would never recover. I didn't think he really had a "soft" side to him...you know what I mean, guys. Anyway, she really did a number on him...told him she was pregnant, then she wasn't pregnant, then she was pregnant with his child but she decided to have an abortion! Can you imagine what that did to him? I've never really seen my son cry until that day. Turns out, though, she was never with child...that she did that to him just for the pure pleasure of being a bitch! I never met the girl and fortunately for her, she's a lot better off for it! I always thought it was the guy that was the a**hole and I really didn't know how emotional they can be...especially when they're in love. Now I know and I understand my sons a lot better than I used to.

Wow, some girls are such bitches. I never did anything that bad to a guy, and even if I was a bit bitchy it was always to guys that were horrible to me anyways.

Truely, there are some people in this world that just need a brick thrown at their heads.

I got a peruvian massage, is that cheating? ;)

Was there a happy ending?

I got a peruvian massage, is that cheating? ;)

That depends on what part of you is Peruvian. :D