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Deepest Red
12-30-2006, 10:30 PM
Robert Fisk:

He takes his secrets to the grave.
Our complicity dies with him

How the West armed Saddam, fed him intelligence on his 'enemies', equipped him for atrocities - and then made sure he wouldn't squeal
Published: 31 December 2006

We've shut him up. The moment Saddam's hooded executioner pulled the lever of the trapdoor in Baghdad yesterday morning, Washington's secrets were safe. The shameless, outrageous, covert military support which the United States - and Britain - gave to Saddam for more than a decade remains the one terrible story which our presidents and prime ministers do not want the world to remember. And now Saddam, who knew the full extent of that Western support - given to him while he was perpetrating some of the worst atrocities since the Second World War - is dead.

Gone is the man who personally received the CIA's help in destroying the Iraqi communist party. After Saddam seized power, US intelligence gave his minions the home addresses of communists in Baghdad and other cities in an effort to destroy the Soviet Union's influence in Iraq. Saddam's mukhabarat visited every home, arrested the occupants and their families, and butchered the lot. Public hanging was for plotters; the communists, their wives and children, were given special treatment - extreme torture before execution at Abu Ghraib.

There is growing evidence across the Arab world that Saddam held a series of meetings with senior American officials prior to his invasion of Iran in 1980 - both he and the US administration believed that the Islamic Republic would collapse if Saddam sent his legions across the border - and the Pentagon was instructed to assist Iraq's military machine by providing intelligence on the Iranian order of battle. One frosty day in 1987, not far from Cologne, I met the German arms dealer who initiated those first direct contacts between Washington and Baghdad - at America's request.

"Mr Fisk... at the very beginning of the war, in September of 1980, I was invited to go to the Pentagon," he said. "There I was handed the very latest US satellite photographs of the Iranian front lines. You could see everything on the pictures. There were the Iranian gun emplacements in Abadan and behind Khorramshahr, the lines of trenches on the eastern side of the Karun river, the tank revetments - thousands of them - all the way up the Iranian side of the border towards Kurdistan. No army could want more than this. And I travelled with these maps from Washington by air to Frankfurt and from Frankfurt on Iraqi Airways straight to Baghdad. The Iraqis were very, very grateful!"

I was with Saddam's forward commandos at the time, under Iranian shellfire, noting how the Iraqi forces aligned their artillery positions far back from the battle front with detailed maps of the Iranian lines. Their shelling against Iran outside Basra allowed the first Iraqi tanks to cross the Karun within a week. The commander of that tank unit cheerfully refused to tell me how he had managed to choose the one river crossing undefended by Iranian armour. Two years ago, we met again, in Amman and his junior officers called him "General" - the rank awarded him by Saddam after that tank attack east of Basra, courtesy of Washington's intelligence information.

Iran's official history of the eight-year war with Iraq states that Saddam first used chemical weapons against it on 13 January 1981. AP's correspondent in Baghdad, Mohamed Salaam, was taken to see the scene of an Iraqi military victory east of Basra. "We started counting - we walked miles and miles in this fucking desert, just counting," he said. "We got to 700 and got muddled and had to start counting again ... The Iraqis had used, for the first time, a combination - the nerve gas would paralyse their bodies ... the mustard gas would drown them in their own lungs. That's why they spat blood."

At the time, the Iranians claimed that this terrible cocktail had been given to Saddam by the US. Washington denied this. But the Iranians were right. The lengthy negotiations which led to America's complicity in this atrocity remain secret - Donald Rumsfeld was one of President Ronald Reagan's point-men at this period - although Saddam undoubtedly knew every detail. But a largely unreported document, "United States Chemical and Biological Warfare-related Dual-use exports to Iraq and their possible impact on the Health Consequences of the Persian Gulf War", stated that prior to 1985 and afterwards, US companies had sent government-approved shipments of biological agents to Iraq. These included Bacillus anthracis, which produces anthrax, andEscherichia coli (E. coli). That Senate report concluded that: "The United States provided the Government of Iraq with 'dual use' licensed materials which assisted in the development of Iraqi chemical, biological and missile-systems programs, including ... chemical warfare agent production facility plant and technical drawings, chemical warfare filling equipment."

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Nor was the Pentagon unaware of the extent of Iraqi use of chemical weapons. In 1988, for example, Saddam gave his personal permission for Lt-Col Rick Francona, a US defence intelligence officer - one of 60 American officers who were secretly providing members of the Iraqi general staff with detailed information on Iranian deployments, tactical planning and bomb damage assessments - to visit the Fao peninsula after Iraqi forces had recaptured the town from the Iranians. He reported back to Washington that the Iraqis had used chemical weapons to achieve their victory. The senior defence intelligence officer at the time, Col Walter Lang, later said that the use of gas on the battlefield by the Iraqis "was not a matter of deep strategic concern".

I saw the results, however. On a long military hospital train back to Tehran from the battle front, I found hundreds of Iranian soldiers coughing blood and mucus from their lungs - the very carriages stank so much of gas that I had to open the windows - and their arms and faces were covered with boils. Later, new bubbles of skin appeared on top of their original boils. Many were fearfully burnt. These same gases were later used on the Kurds of Halabja. No wonder that Saddam was primarily tried in Baghdad for the slaughter of Shia villagers, not for his war crimes against Iran.

We still don't know - and with Saddam's execution we will probably never know - the extent of US credits to Iraq, which began in 1982. The initial tranche, the sum of which was spent on the purchase of American weapons from Jordan and Kuwait, came to $300m. By 1987, Saddam was being promised $1bn in credit. By 1990, just before Saddam's invasion of Kuwait, annual trade between Iraq and the US had grown to $3.5bn a year. Pressed by Saddam's foreign minister, Tariq Aziz, to continue US credits, James Baker then Secretary of State, but the same James Baker who has just produced a report intended to drag George Bush from the catastrophe of present- day Iraq - pushed for new guarantees worth $1bn from the US.

In 1989, Britain, which had been giving its own covert military assistance to Saddam guaranteed £250m to Iraq shortly after the arrest of Observer journalist Farzad Bazoft in Baghdad. Bazoft, who had been investigating an explosion at a factory at Hilla which was using the very chemical components sent by the US, was later hanged. Within a month of Bazoft's arrest William Waldegrave, then a Foreign Office minister, said: "I doubt if there is any future market of such a scale anywhere where the UK is potentially so well-placed if we play our diplomatic hand correctly... A few more Bazofts or another bout of internal oppression would make it more difficult."

Even more repulsive were the remarks of the then Deputy Prime Minister, Geoffrey Howe, on relaxing controls on British arms sales to Iraq. He kept this secret, he wrote, because "it would look very cynical if, so soon after expressing outrage about the treatment of the Kurds, we adopt a more flexible approach to arms sales".

Saddam knew, too, the secrets of the attack on the USS Stark when, on 17 May 1987, an Iraqi jet launched a missile attack on the American frigate, killing more than a sixth of the crew and almost sinking the vessel. The US accepted Saddam's excuse that the ship was mistaken for an Iranian vessel and allowed Saddam to refuse their request to interview the Iraqi pilot.

The whole truth died with Saddam Hussein in the Baghdad execution chamber yesterday. Many in Washington and London must have sighed with relief that the old man had been silenced for ever.

'The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East' by Robert Fisk is now available in paperback

Brooks
12-30-2006, 10:52 PM
Without wasting seven minutes of my life on the article.....
couldn't his "secrets" have been a great bargaining chip? He had plenty of rant time in the courtroom.
Let me know if this is covered in the article and I'll read it.

Evakian
12-30-2006, 10:54 PM
What is an Irish communist doing in the US? Just curious.

Brooks
12-30-2006, 11:10 PM
Supporting the US conspiracy industry.

mikezila
01-01-2007, 06:52 AM
Supporting the US conspiracy industry.
i thought that was outsourced to India?

Brooks
01-01-2007, 08:40 PM
The quantity and intensity of our conspiracies is directly proportional to how freakin' easy our life is.

India has too many real concerns to handle that vocation.

sedan
01-01-2007, 09:10 PM
The quantity and intensity of our conspiracies is directly proportional to how freakin' easy our life is.

India has too many real concerns to handle that vocation.A Hindu nationalist party, Swadeshi Jagran Manch (SJM) also known as the National Awakening Front, has vehemently opposed the use of iodised salt in India. SJM believes that the compulsory use of iodised salt in India is the result of a multinational corporate conspiracy.

Salt has long been a contentious issue in India. During the days of British rule, all salt production and sale was controlled by the British and a salt-tax was imposed to raise revenue to support the Raj; forcing the poor to buy salt they could not really afford. It was a criminal offence for Indians to produce their own salt.

In March 1930, Mahatma Ghandi, in an act of peaceful, civil disobedience, started what became known as the "The Gandhi Salt March" or the "March to Dandi". Ghandi and his supporters marched from Sabarmati to the coastal village of Dandi: a journey of 240 miles. Ghandi encouraged his thousands of followers to make salt wherever it "was most convenient and comfortable" to them.

After Ghandi's march thousands of people produced salt, or bought illegal salt. The Dandi salt march was a key turning point in the struggle for India's independence from British rule.

SJM have recalled that the right to use common salt, freely available on sea coasts, was an issue Ghandi highlighted in India's movement for independence from British colonial rule. The idea being to make a link between oppressive colonial rule and oppressive control by multinational corporations: the fallacy of the argument being that multinational corporations are exacting oppressive control. The ban on salt was imposed by the Indian government; for health reasons.

SJM is opposed to the use of iodised salt despite its medically-based support from doctors and the health care community. This is because SJM strives for India's self-reliance through Hindu nationalism, and the protectionism of its industries: it considers India a nation enslaved by the global marketplace which is destroying its morals, and contaminating its market.

In September 2000 the Prime Minister of India, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, despite protests from doctors who said it will expose a large section of people to the risk of Iodine deficiency, overturned the ban on the sale of common salt. This decision was reached after much pressure from SJM, which has members in India's parliament.

SJM claimed that the IDD epidemic is nothing more than:

* a western conspiracy
* a non-issue for the Indian government.

and that:

* iodised salt is six times the cost of normal salt.
* the efficacy is lost due to high temperature cooking.
* using it can leave the user vulnerable to TB, diabetes, cancer, and peevishness.

http://www.skeptics.org.uk/article.php?dir=articles&article=an_indian_conspiracy_theory.php

Evakian
01-01-2007, 09:21 PM
Fluoridated water is a communist plot!

Brooks
01-01-2007, 10:03 PM
Fluoridated water is a communist plot!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/queun/images13.jpgMake me a drink of grain alcohol and rainwater.





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Phyrex
01-01-2007, 10:09 PM
"Contamination of our precious bodily fluids!"

Darth Be'lal
01-01-2007, 10:30 PM
He takes his secrets to the grave.

Not to mention where his WMDs are located, dammit.

Overdose
01-01-2007, 11:20 PM
Not to mention where his WMDs are located, dammit.
:@@: :@@: :@@: :@@:

Freethinker
01-02-2007, 12:25 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/queun/images13.jpgMake me a drink of grain alcohol and rainwater..

Haaaaaaaahahah!!!!...........man, I LOVE that pic with that quote!

I own that movie. It rocks.

Phyrex
01-02-2007, 01:48 AM
Hey, I can agree with freethinker on one thing, Dr Strangelove is one of the greatest movies ever made. Its in my top ten.

The Praetorian
01-02-2007, 11:34 AM
George C. Scott was awesome in that flick....

The President: General Turgidson, I find this very difficult to understand. I was under the impression that I was the only one in authority to order the use of nuclear weapons.

General "Buck" Turgidson: That's right, sir, you are the only person authorized to do so. And although I, uh, hate to judge before all the facts are in, it's beginning to look like, uh, General Ripper exceeded his authority.

The Praetorian
01-02-2007, 11:41 AM
The quantity and intensity of our conspiracies is directly proportional to how freakin' easy our life is.

India has too many real concerns to handle that vocation.
BAM!

Way to fire back, Brooks -

That was perfect...

Deepest Red
01-06-2007, 03:19 AM
What is an Irish communist doing in the US? Just curious.

I'm half n half, raised on both sides of the pond.

Dunno what relevance the commie bit has- there's more reds in the US than in pious Ireland. :@@:

Deepest Red
01-06-2007, 03:22 AM
Supporting the US conspiracy industry.

Nah, most conspiracies are either bs or if true just irrelevant.

It would take an 'educated' person such as yourself to quip that commenting on Saddam's well-documented clientship with the CIA is indulging in 'conspiracy'. You know yourself me old flower.