In his last message…Ayman al-Zawahri addressed both us ( the Americans) and Bush, and both the Republicans and Democrats…and these are excerpts from this message…what is your opinion?

Excerpts from the message of Ayman al-Zawahri:

I would like to talk to the American people , and to tell them: You did not realize the failure of the administration and you did not topple the Republicans candidates until the Mujahedeen defeated you, and you did not follow the principles of justice morals and rationality, the Mujahedeen still taking up their arms by the grace of Allah.

The equation of your safety is: Don't dream of security until we live it really in Palestine and all Islam's lands, and it is not the wrong equation given to you by Bush and cheating you when he says that we fight the terrorists in their countries for not targeting and hitting us in our country, on the contrary, if we were stroked in our countries we will not stop hitting you in your country by Allah willing and might.

And as our leader Sheikh Oussama Ben Laden –may Allah protect him- said to you: On the same way you bombard , you will be bombarded, and like you kill, you will be killed.



My message to the Democrats in America, I say to them, you should realize two facts:

-First: It is not you who won in the elections, neither the Republicans who lost, it is the Mujahedeen – vanguard of the Islamic nation in Afghanistan and Iraq- who were victorious, and the American forces with its allies who lost and were defeated.



Second:The Mujahedeen still –by the grace of Allah- in the battlefield , and their arms which made the Republicans defeated still taken up and legal, the Mujahedeen will not stop defeating you until you leave our lands , stop robbing our riches and stop supporting the rotten governors in our countries.




If you do not stop the stupid American policy in supporting Israel, occupying the Islam's lands and robbing the Muslims riches, then be awaited for the same fate.




You should realize that a new stage of the history has been started, the stage of Aabd al-Aziz Al Sood's progeny , al-Sharif Hussain's grandsons, al-Sadat ,Mubarak and Aarafat , this stage expired, and it started the stage of Khaled al-Islamboli, Abd Allah Aazzam, the commandant Abu Hafs, Khattab, Muhammad Atta, Muhammed Sadeek Khan and Shahzad Tanweer "mercy of Allah upon them all", and if you are not able to understand and realize this change, do not blame none but yourselves.
Get out of our countries, Stop supporting the rotten governors, and do not prevent the Islamic nation to found its Legal State .




And I say to both of the Republicans and Democrats: You are trying in this panicked situation to find an egress from disasters encircling you in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you still reason with the same stupid rationality, you try to negotiate some parties to assure your getting out , but these parties can not help you and your trials will not bring to you nothing except the frustration –by Allah willing- , because you do not negotiate the real forces in the Islamic world, and it seems that you will enter in a painful trip of failing negotiations, and you will return –by Allah willing- obliged to negotiate the real forces.




And I tell them that Bush represent the level of thinking of the American nation despite all what they have from research's centers, researchers , experts and historians, a nation choosing Bush as a president is a weak nation in morals and rationality and thinking, and it is sufficient to see what's happened in the last meeting of Bush with the mendicant al-Maleki in Aamman, and what disagreements and quarrels happened in this meeting and exposed in public in spite of their need to show it as a successful meeting.

thank you for your opinion, but try to keep in mind that the leading and most likely plan for a withdrawal from Iraq is an increase in troop strength, pulling back to the borders to prevent your reenforcement and and letting the Iraqi Army wipe you animals off the face of the earth;)

the mujahadeen and the democrats have a symbyotic relationship when it comes to the war in iraq. the mujahadeen kill americans which in turn allows the democrats to say we are losing so they can use it against infidel Bush and defeat him so the troops can come home in disgrace so the mujahdeen can have thier rotten country

In his last message…Ayman al-Zawahri addressed both ( the Americans) and Bush, and both the Republicans and Democrats…and these are excerpts from this message……what is your opinion?

Ayman al-Zawahri sounds like a very shrewd and insightful person.

Two things that he said struck me for their incredible profundity;

""And I say to both of the Republicans and Democrats: You are trying in this panicked situation to find an egress from disasters encircling you in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you still reason with the same stupid rationality, you try to negotiate some parties to assure your getting out , but these parties can not help you and your trials will not bring to you nothing except the frustration...""

..............and...............


""And I tell them that Bush represents the level of thinking of the American nation despite all what they have from research's centers, researchers , experts and historians, a nation choosing Bush as a president is a weak nation in morals and rationality and thinking, and it is sufficient to see what's happened in the last meeting of Bush with the mendicant al-Maleki........""

Ayman al-Zawahri sounds like a very shrewd and insightful person.

Two things that he said struck me for their incredible profundity;

""And I say to both of the Republicans and Democrats: You are trying in this panicked situation to find an egress from disasters encircling you in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you still reason with the same stupid rationality, you try to negotiate some parties to assure your getting out , but these parties can not help you and your trials will not bring to you nothing except the frustration...""

..............and...............


""And I tell them that Bush represents the level of thinking of the American nation despite all what they have from research's centers, researchers , experts and historians, a nation choosing Bush as a president is a weak nation in morals and rationality and thinking, and it is sufficient to see what's happened in the last meeting of Bush with the mendicant al-Maleki........""

The problem with a lot of people in US, is that they will never recognize they made a mistake in choosing a leader. Therefore they just go on and on until the moment will come when they will just go over the cliff like in a stampede, and when the ones upfront realize that it was a mistake and try to stop, they get pushed over the cliff by the big mass of those who are still blind and coming behind.

The problem with a lot of people in US, is that they will never recognize they made a mistake in choosing a leader. Therefore they just go on and on until the moment will come when they will just go over the cliff ....

Exactly.

For many millions of Americans, it really doesn't matter how utterly abysmal a job the president they voted for is doing. They wouldn't give a fuck if his bumbling caused WWIII to begin.......as long as he keeps praising Gawd and going to church and doesn't put his peepee in any "naughty" places.

For that immense, santimonious segment of America, their primary concern in politics is not the future of the nation or how it is faring, but instead how much the person they voted for loves (or claims to love) Jeezus, and how closely he will conform to and pay homage to their religious belief system.........iow, the Christian belief system.

......like in a stampede, and when the ones upfront realize that it was a mistake and try to stop, they get pushed over the cliff by the big mass of those who are still blind and coming behind.[/B]

Few among the dimwitted herd in this country will ever realize the fatal course that has been chosen and try to turn and face the tide. When (as I think will soon happen) this massive herd of sheep rushes headlong over the cliff to perish, most of them will still be loudly singing the praises of the miserable, misguided, inept Conservative faction in Washington who sent us over it....

The only reason we've "lost" anything (which I don't believe is the case, however, I'll bite...) is because of two things: 1) our politicians, and 2) we were "moral" enough NOT TO wipe you people off the face of the planet from the get-go. If we're ever to be attacked again, then I'd vote for a full-on nuclear conflict, and if you would please, Google321, give my regards to your fuckwad zealot leaders in Hell.

Like cockroaches, some of you would probably survive that assault, but rest assured, if any nation in the M.E. pulls any shit ever again, then I personally am gonna start making furniture out of their children. As a matter of fact, I'm looking forward to the US destroying (not building) any nation who casts the first stone, and trust me - we're very good at the former.

We don't fight wars here, we finish 'em, so stick your "warnings" up your ass, and prepare to die.

because we were "moral" enough NOT TO wipe you people off the face of the planet from the get-go. If we're ever to be attacked again, then I'd vote for a full-on nuclear conflict, and if you would please, Google321, give my regards to your fuckwad zealot leaders in Hell.

:rant:

If there were such a place as "Hell", I would imagine that the Last Ring of the Seventh Circle of that place would be reserved for those who advocate dropping nuclear weapons on completely innocent and blameless civilians.

Like the people in the Trade Center who you say were "complicit" in our government's meddling in the M.E.

Give me a break and try to be consistent. No one's innocent, right?

The usual bunch of insults from someone who feels superior to just about anyone else or anything. Are you some kind of God sent or the Messiah?

The only reason ... bla bla bla bla bla ... and prepare to die.

The usual bunch of insults from someone who feels superior to just about anyone else or anything. Sure sounds to me like a psychiatric case.

All I see is that the Ayman is asking the US to leave them alone, get out of their lands, stop robbing their natural resources. No one is crazy to go hurting someone far away without a reason, the "common" people of US (of which I am part now) didn't do anything to the Islamic countries, but the corporate government sure has done it, and unfortunately the "common" people pay someone else's sins.

If you want security in this land, get rid of those in charge of the government (meaning: stop the corporations from directing US policy, stop this immoral lobby system, stop the business first then human life idea).

Are you some kind of God sent or the Messiah?
Only if you ask my female companions.

The usual bunch of insults from someone who feels superior to just about anyone else or anything.
Whoa - déjà vu.
Sure sounds to me like a psychiatric case.
And what case would that be, Doctor Lopez? Acute post-partum depression, shell shock, or a simple case of being in touch with reality?
All I see is that the Ayman is asking the US to leave them alone, get out of their lands, stop robbing their natural resources.
No one is "robbing" anyone of anything, dipshit. Last time I checked, the only people robbing the citizenry in the M.E. were their "elected" officials. Stop proffering that ridiculous lie, for it's beneath you as this conversation is beneath me.

And what case would that be, Doctor Lopez? Acute post-partum depression, shell shock, or a simple case of being in touch with reality?............ dipshit.........

No..., you probably were molested many years ago, either by a Mexican, and/or an Arab... Therefore that's why you hate them so much.

Note: If you don't want insults, stop yours.

Editing: And don't bother answering with more insults, ... I'll be off this FORUM permanently.

Bye, see ya in HELL (from above)...

LOL, you try to get him to stop insulting you by threatening to leave the forum for good? Why cant freethinker do that?

No..., you probably were molested many years ago, either by a Mexican, and/or an Arab... Therefore that's why you hate them so much.

Note: If you don't want insults, stop yours.
Was the molestation comment meant to be an insult? :confused:
Editing: And don't bother answering with more insults, ... I'll be off this FORUM permanently.
Don't be such a pussy, Cheech - it's all in good fun. Oh, and don't tempt me...

Editing: And don't bother answering with more insults, ... I'll be off this FORUM permanently.
Awesome.

socialist, your mammas so fat she uses garbage bags held up by hula hoops for socks.

is he gone?

socialist, your mammas so fat she uses garbage bags held up by hula hoops for socks.

is he gone?
i think he's gone...:corn: