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es347fan
12-24-2006, 04:45 AM
There comes a time when it is best to move on. For me, that time is now. This is not a decision I have come to without a bit of introspection. The Internet is a wide and varied manner of communication, allowing even those of significantly diminished capacity to interact on a stage that otherwise would not tolerate their intrusion. More than one member of the forum has gotten under my skin and in doing so has caused me to act in an unprofessional manner. I take full responsibility for those actions.
Most recently I find myself in direct conflict with one that experience and their demonstrated behaviors spell out the undeniable presence of a frankly disturbing Personality Disorder. This is one who delivers in a simpering tone, replete with insults and disrespect, postings that infuriate others, yet, proves incapable of receiving criticism, and has repeatedly demonstrated a penchant for crying out when presented with evidence of those behaviors found reprehensible by others. Many have viewed this person to be a drama queen worthy of both an Oscar Nomination and an ass kicking simultaneously. The individual in question is incredibly irritating to others (beyond myself), yet has a defending mentor running in defense and providing protection under the guise of being a moderator. To confront the individual in question in a manner that (s)he is deserving of is in direct conflict with the professionalism demanded by the position of administrator. Were that individual of reasonably normal character and intelligence this action would be unnecessary. Quite simply, I am tired of dancing around the delicate sensitivities presented by one sexually confused, highly manipulative, self serving (allegedly) male bitch.
shortstuff
12-24-2006, 08:22 AM
ES:
I am sorry to see you go. For me you have always been fair. This is one of the down falls of may forums. We such a diverse range of people one can burn out really fast. I hate to see you leave for good. I hope you just take a break and come back to this when you have had time. You will be missed in my opinion and hope to see you again soon
Shorty :(
Frogger
12-24-2006, 08:26 AM
es347fan,
Please reconsider. Yes, the person in question is unbelievably annoying, and I honestly think he does it on purpose and the other moderator who always comes to his defense is violating his need to be fair and evenhanded as I have told him on this forum in the past.
You don't beat someone like the poster mentioned by cutting and running. I know he can be annoying. There have been times I would have pulled out my hair by the roots if I had any, but you have been the fairest, least ideologically biased of the moderators.
If you leave there will be no defense against the poster in question. He will be given free rein to continue posting his drivel. If you don't want to think of yourself, think of the rest of us.
Please reconsider.
shortstuff
12-24-2006, 08:31 AM
I second that motion and say well said.
OldPhart
12-24-2006, 09:38 AM
Tis a sad day.....
es was one of the few posters on this board that I shared a majority of viewpoints with (maybe it's the location, age, or the upbringing... I don't know).
I always felt he was even-handed in his moderation, even though I think that one particular poster got under his "skin" VERY badly. I have been a part of these forums for a long time, and have had many heated discussions with several members (Echo2, dop, FT, loki, etc.), but have been reported by only one... take a guess who. I tried to interject into the Jane Fonda thread a bit of background into the hatred by many of the woman's actions in Vietnam. After it was ignored by the aforementioned poster, I then tried to inject a bit of humor into the debate by quoting from a movie (I was just poking fun)... es was the one that warned me that I had been "reported" for my post... I told him I would play nice and not upset the forum whiner anymore.
As far as Vile and his moderation, I think that he is one of the most intelligent posters on Allforums. I may not agree with him on many subjects but he always seems to debate and discuss with great care and intelligence. Is he partial to the "whiney" poster?... maybe a bit. If homosexuality was a religion, I would equate Vile to Mother Teresa, and the un-named one to Fred Phelps.
Sorry your anger and frustration got the best of you es, I for one will miss your posts and thoughts on here. Maybe you can just be a member, and not a mod?
Merry Christmas to all here!
The OldPhart
~Sal~
12-24-2006, 09:58 AM
Nice post OldPhart!
Ride4Life
12-24-2006, 10:27 AM
es,
I really cant believe the words you've written. I could maybe understand it better if there was a group of users that made you feel unwelcome, or irritated you to the point of breaking, but for a single person to do this to you has me feeling a bit uneasy.
I havent been around this place long enough to get to know anyone, but with your postings and opinions, you've gained my respect. Not only as a moderator, but as a fellow poster and human. I don't think there's a person here that wants to see you go, and that includes the ones you've locked horns with. One possible exception would be the emotionally insecure half-wit crack head that caused this.
I will truly be sorry to see you go, primarily because you're smarter than me. By the way, my name is Larry, and I'm honored to meet you sir.
~Sal~
12-24-2006, 10:33 AM
but for a single person to do this to you has me feeling a bit uneasy.
MORE than a bit uneasy. That's why I'm am just kind of hanging with this. It makes no sense at all.
DrewM
12-24-2006, 12:46 PM
It's certainly a sad day to hear that ES is leaving allforums. I, like everybody else hope he reconsiders. I'm suprised actually because I didn't imagine ES would get so worked up over another poster, but everybody gets worked up from time to time & that is normal.
I'm not clear exactly what happened with posts being altered and OD being banned, but I will say that if that did happen - its not a good thing.
ES is a long standing integral member of the forum.
OD is also a long standing integral member of the forum.
This board is about discussion, its intended that people have different points of view.
It is unfair of anybody to say that ES has left because of OD. If ES does make his absence permanent (& I very much hope he does not) then that will be a choice made by ES, a choice that is 100% his choice and a choice that nobody else bears any responsibility for.
ES is very welcome at these forums, and so is OD.
The Dude
12-24-2006, 02:18 PM
Well if OD makes people this angry is he not violating the EUA??
This should be looked into Drew!
God bless :)
Overdose
12-24-2006, 03:39 PM
I’m posting this because I feel I have been un-fairly criticized and made to look like the “bad guy” when I’m not. For ES to try and pin his leaving Allforums on me is quite sad. To make it simple I will post my reasons in a numbered fashion.
1. Whenever I posted an opinion in any thread it was followed up with personal insults and complete disrespect. I have directed our moderators to these posts that sole purpose was to personally trash my reputation. For ES to blame me for causing mean-spirited posts and responses is completely pathetic. It has been ES and his gang who have decided to comment and criticize me in every thread and who have avoided the actual issues at hand and resorted to name-calling and mean-spirited posts.
2. The “direct” conflict ES is talking about he created. I posted responses and he did not need to respond. However he decided to respond anyway. And he didn’t respond to the points I brought up, he just responded with personal insults. The conflict was caused by him and he clearly brought it upon himself. If he didn’t want to deal with me, why did he personally insult me in each and every recent thread I have been involved in? Why did he even bother? Why didn’t he just put me on ignore?
3. ES edited a post of mine and has supported entire threads that were created to mock me. And yet I’m the “drama whore” and poster who is “causing all the issues”
4. Not only has ES attacked my mental ability he has attacked and questioned my sexuality in his farewell post. Not only is this highly immature it is also extremely disrespectful. IT TRULY REFLECTS HOW HE HAS BEEN ACTING TOWARDS ME AND HOW IT IS HIM WHO IS CAUSING ALL THE MEAN and HURTFUL REMARKS. For anyone to say I play the “gay card” and “bring it on myself” needs to take a long hard look at ES’s farewell post.
That’s all.
Blibblob
12-24-2006, 04:04 PM
Why is it that currently everybody is so biased towards Es or remaining emotional and unreasonable that it almost seems like Vilepagan and I are the only ones on OD's "side". I certainly hope that everybody who's been here for more than a little while has caught on to the fact that I absolutely detest OD's attitude and posting style. But there is only one person here, er well not here anymore, that holds any responsibility for what happened, and that is Es. The amount that OD whines and annoys and spews stupidity doesn't matter even a smidgen. Es let himself get affected and irresponsible.
Then again, OD opening his idiotic mouth certainly isn't helping his case and I guess I can understand completely how people who don't pay attention could be immediately put off of defending him at all. But when somebody is a dumbass, they're a dumbass, not jewish and meant to be a scapegoat.
DrewM
12-24-2006, 04:20 PM
Well if OD makes people this angry is he not violating the EUA??
This should be looked into Drew!
God bless :)
I have gone briefly thru the threads and at first glance it looks like the anger was caused by a difference of opinion.
Nobody is ever going to get banned because people don't like their opinion. Sure things get heated from time to time, but this is a discussion forum. It happens.
I'll be perfectly honest that the farewell post by ES (posted multiple times across the forum) - seemed a bit immature to me & I wasn't impressed by it much at all. I was really quite suprised ES wrote it. Also - there was plenty in that post that was pretty insulting.
Everybody gets worked up from time to time and in that sense I can understand that ES's post was an emotional response. I hope he cools off and comes back at some point, because Allforums is better with him than without, but if not - best wishes to him. The world will still turn. It's his choice.
paulc
12-24-2006, 04:34 PM
Drew,after reading thru the 'said' posts,would you like to comment on the accusations that were made.
Doing this may clear the air somewhat,and as regards Vilepagan,it may put to rest any doubt some members may have about his neutrality and even handedness on issues in the future.
This will hopefully go along way to resolving issues,as you have the last say.
Overdose
12-24-2006, 04:40 PM
Drew,after reading thru the 'said' posts,would you like to comment on the accusations that were made.
Doing this may clear the air somewhat,and as regards Vilepagan,it may put to rest any doubt some members may have about his neutrality and even handedness on issues in the future.
This will hopefully go along way to resolving issues,as you have the last say.
Vilepagan has defended me as a poster. Not as a moderator. He has not used any of his privileges granted to him by being a moderator. He has simply made posts in my defense. That's all.
paulc
12-24-2006, 04:46 PM
Im not accusing anyone of anything OD.All Im saying is,that accusions have been made,which need to be addressed.
DrewM
12-24-2006, 05:49 PM
Drew,after reading thru the 'said' posts,would you like to comment on the accusations that were made.
Doing this may clear the air somewhat,and as regards Vilepagan,it may put to rest any doubt some members may have about his neutrality and even handedness on issues in the future.
This will hopefully go along way to resolving issues,as you have the last say.
I have no intention of trawling thru past posts looking for some evidence that vile has miss-moderated posts involving OD. This is a small time discussion board, not an issue of national security.
If people have specific examples PM them to me, beyond that - the issue is closed - I'm not wasting a second of my time on it. As far as I can see OD has not done a thing wrong, neither has vile & ES has quite frankly acted like a baby. It happens with everybody from time to time, that's life & if he wants to come back he's totally welcome, but not as a mod.
LionelHutz
12-24-2006, 08:41 PM
Why is it that currently everybody is so biased towards Es or remaining emotional and unreasonable that it almost seems like Vilepagan and I are the only ones on OD's "side". I certainly hope that everybody who's been here for more than a little while has caught on to the fact that I absolutely detest OD's attitude and posting style. But there is only one person here, er well not here anymore, that holds any responsibility for what happened, and that is Es. The amount that OD whines and annoys and spews stupidity doesn't matter even a smidgen. Es let himself get affected and irresponsible.
Then again, OD opening his idiotic mouth certainly isn't helping his case and I guess I can understand completely how people who don't pay attention could be immediately put off of defending him at all. But when somebody is a dumbass, they're a dumbass, not jewish and meant to be a scapegoat.
I completely agree with every single word written here.
Overdose
12-24-2006, 09:24 PM
I completely agree with every single word written here.
I'm sad you think I spew stupidity. You were actually one of the members I respected and are one of the people I valued having around this forum. :( Oh well.
Evakian
12-24-2006, 10:27 PM
I completely agree with every single word written here.
Same, except I like OD. His perserverence can get to me sometimes, however.
Darth Be'lal
12-24-2006, 10:46 PM
Farewell, es347fan, it'll be a bit emptier a place without you, dammit.
The Dude
12-25-2006, 12:51 AM
I have gone briefly thru the threads and at first glance it looks like the anger was caused by a difference of opinion.Maybe your right.....
I have a feeling there are issues in his personal life and this just pushed him over the top....
We should all pray for him that things calm down and he can return and not feel under any stress......
Im sorry OD if i made you mad by my earlier post....
God bless
Overdose
12-25-2006, 01:04 AM
Im sorry OD if i made you mad by my earlier post....
No problem. :)
Frogger
12-25-2006, 05:20 AM
The rest of you are free to forgive and forget. As for me, I choose to remember. I remember that es347fan contributed ten times as much as Overdose. I remember OD's incessant whining, his constant contrariness, his perpetual accusations of homophobia thrown at anyone who dared disagree with him. Even his initial post on this thread follows that pattern, accept no responsibility, blame the other guy, accuse him of homophobia. Nope, I am not going to soon forget what Overdose has wrought and I am not ready to forgive him.
It is unfortunate that anyone is leaving, it makes our community a little less diverse. Emotions are a powerful element in us. To say, "Don't let them get the best of you". Is not as easy as it sounds. Emotions drive us and make us who we are. To ask someone not to act upon them is to ask that person to deny his own personality, his own being.
We have had many good posts from ES, far more good ones than bad. Es leaving is like one of lights going out on our Allforums Christmas Tree. You'll be missed, hope to see you back.
Vaya con Dios, mi amigo.
007.
paulc
12-25-2006, 06:09 AM
I have no intention of trawling thru past posts looking for some evidence that vile has miss-moderated posts involving OD. This is a small time discussion board, not an issue of national security.
If people have specific examples PM them to me, beyond that - the issue is closed - I'm not wasting a second of my time on it. As far as I can see OD has not done a thing wrong, neither has vile & ES has quite frankly acted like a baby. It happens with everybody from time to time, that's life & if he wants to come back he's totally welcome, but not as a mod.
Im glad you addressed members concerns about the accusations made by es in his final post,in such a fair and balanced way,and put the matter to rest.
DrewM
12-25-2006, 10:07 AM
Im glad you addressed members concerns about the accusations made by es in his final post,in such a fair and balanced way,and put the matter to rest.
If you have any examples of those "concerns" then PM them to me, up until that point there are no valid concerns to address, so climb down off your sarcastic high horse.
As to ES final post - I like ES and he was a great member of the forum but I simply don't respond with much regard for such stupid "farewell" posts - especially when they are filled with hate and posted many times. If you want to leave just stop posting - why all the theatrics of a 10 year old girl? I understand it was an emotional response, but I'm not going to pretend I have any respect for it - I don't. It sucks he has left, but what sucks far more was his juvenile way of doing it. To be frank - it was pathetic & I think if he re-reads it a month from now he'll think the same. I actually doubt ES will be back because he'll be too embarrased. Having said that - he can post again here any time & we'll all be happy if he does & nobody will hold this episode against him.
The rest of you are free to forgive and forget. As for me, I choose to remember. I remember that es347fan contributed ten times as much as Overdose. I remember OD's incessant whining, his constant contrariness, his perpetual accusations of homophobia thrown at anyone who dared disagree with him. Even his initial post on this thread follows that pattern, accept no responsibility, blame the other guy, accuse him of homophobia. Nope, I am not going to soon forget what Overdose has wrought and I am not ready to forgive him.
Frogger - newsflash - this is a forum, people disagree. It'd be damn boring if everybody was the same and everybody thought the same way. What you really mean to say is ES agreed with your point of view 10x more than OD. We don't value people here based on the Frogger scale of worth. And as for responsibility - OD has ZERO responsibility for ES leaving or for ES's post. ES is a big boy - he makes his own choices and writes his own posts. I doubt OD will lose any sleep for your unwillingness to forgive him for something he has no responsibility for and needs no forgiveness for. This isn't an issue of taking sides, I've probably agreed personally with ES posts far more than I agreed with OD's, but that isn't the issue or even relevent, I would never "take sides" in an issue like this. It's an issue of common sense plain & simple - common sense is the only side I'm taking. ES chose to leave for his own reasons - the responsibility for his choices lie with him and him alone.
Frogger
12-25-2006, 10:35 AM
Drew,
OD has been a passive aggressive poster attacking by playing the victim. Whatever you post he says, give me proof. When you give him facts he ignores themand says again, give me proof. You post een more facts and once again he says, give me proof. If that doesn't work he accuses those who disagree with him of attacking him because he is gay.
I don't really care if the rest of the posters want to post to him. That is their decision to make. I have chosen to no longer do so. I see no reason to post with someone who constantly plays the victim and then accuses people of being homophobic.
Overdose
12-25-2006, 12:31 PM
When you give him facts he ignores themand says again, give me proof. You post een more facts and once again he says, give me proof. If that doesn't work he accuses those who disagree with him of attacking him because he is gay.
I don't really care if the rest of the posters want to post to him. That is their decision to make. I have chosen to no longer do so. I see no reason to post with someone who constantly plays the victim and then accuses people of being homophobic.
1. You and ES brought these issues on yourselves. Whenever I'd post a response that was on topic, you and ES would rely with hurtful comments. That is what caused the issues. You guys brought it on yourself.
2. Whenever I presented facts you and ES would also ignore them.
3. ES's farewell post shows he brought it on himself with the mean and hurtful comments he made towards me. Trying to pass the blame on to me is laughable.
Imagineer
12-25-2006, 12:46 PM
The words to Kris Kristofferson's song seemed just so appropriate here.
Jesus was a Capricorn, he ate organic foods.
He believed in love and peace and never wore no shoes.
Long hair, beard and sandals and a funky bunch of friends.
Reckon they'd just nail him up if He come down again.
'Cos everybody's got to have somebody to look down on.
Who they can feel better than at anytime they please.
Someone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown on.
If you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me.
Get back, John!
Egg Head's cousin Red Neck's cussin' hippies for their hair.
Others laugh at straights who laugh at freaks who laugh at squares.
Some folks hate the whites who hate the blacks who hate the clan.
Most of us hate anything that we don't understand.
'Cos everybody's got to have somebody to look down on.
Who they can feel better than at anytime they please.
Someone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown on.
If you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me.
Help yourself, brother.
Help yourself, Gentlemen.
Help yourself Reverend.
paulc
12-25-2006, 01:47 PM
And a very Merry Christmas to you to Drew.
You think my reply was sarcastic, I wonder why?. Maybe it was the fact you didnt address it in the first place.
Im no 10 year old girl, there was an issue needed addressed ok.
If you want me to stop posting on allforums, why dont you just come out and say so.
LionelHutz
12-25-2006, 01:48 PM
I'm sad you think I spew stupidity. You were actually one of the members I respected and are one of the people I valued having around this forum. :( Oh well.
I'm sorry, OD, but your posting style is just way too irritating to me. I've tried for the most part to avoid debating with you because you're extremely abrasive. Call it a personality conflict - it's not really relevant. Having said that, you've done nothing wrong here and IMHO have nothing to apologize for.
The rest of you are free to forgive and forget. As for me, I choose to remember. I remember that es347fan contributed ten times as much as Overdose. I remember OD's incessant whining, his constant contrariness, his perpetual accusations of homophobia thrown at anyone who dared disagree with him. Even his initial post on this thread follows that pattern, accept no responsibility, blame the other guy, accuse him of homophobia. Nope, I am not going to soon forget what Overdose has wrought and I am not ready to forgive him.
I've been debating whether or not to bother with this, but here I go. My opinion of you has fallen in the last few weeks farther than anyone else's. You're pretty damn whiny yourself. You're one of those people that goes around looking for insults wherever you can find them so that you can make a big show of being indignant. That whole thing about not shopping at Target started the fall and this has pretty much finished it off. Not everyone is going to agree with you Frogger, and the sooner you learn to deal with that the better off you'll be. I seriously hope you're not going to be constantly bringing up ES every day for the next year.
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Overdose
12-25-2006, 02:08 PM
I'm sorry, OD, but your posting style is just way too irritating to me. I've tried for the most part to avoid debating with you because you're extremely abrasive. Call it a personality conflict - it's not really relevant. Having said that, you've done nothing wrong here and IMHO have nothing to apologize for.
That's totally fair. ES and Frogger have a personality conflict with me too. However instead of avoding debate with me, they have only thrown personal insults at me and created this entire "issue". The hypocrisy they spew is amazing and they clearly have a double standard.
LionelHutz
12-25-2006, 02:15 PM
That's totally fair. ES and Frogger have a personality conflict with me too. However instead of avoding debate with me, they have only thrown personal insults at me and created this entire "issue". The hypocrisy they spew is amazing and they clearly have a double standard.
I'm continually baffled by people's inability to debate with you without bring up your sexuality. :shrugs:
Overdose
12-25-2006, 02:18 PM
I'm continually baffled by people's inability to debate with you without bring up your sexuality. :shrugs:
Tell me about it. Even in this farewell post ES brought up my sexuality and the fact that I might not even be male. It proves the point I've been trying to make all along...oh that and he spews insults and then blames me for the "drama" that is created.
silverbulletkc
12-25-2006, 02:20 PM
http://www.psychonoble.com/archives/articles/media/bill_murray.jpg (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting.php)
Overdose
12-25-2006, 02:21 PM
http://www.psychonoble.com/archives/articles/media/bill_murray.jpg (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting.php)
Only speaking the truth. :D
silverbulletkc
12-25-2006, 02:29 PM
Because we ALL could use a little review on just what the hell is supposed to happen here!
DrewM
12-25-2006, 04:18 PM
And a very Merry Christmas to you to Drew.
You think my reply was sarcastic, I wonder why?. Maybe it was the fact you didnt address it in the first place.
Im no 10 year old girl, there was an issue needed addressed ok.
If you want me to stop posting on allforums, why dont you just come out and say so.
Where did I say you are a 10 year old girl? - er I didn't.
Why would I want you stop posting at AllForums?
And I have absolutely NO clue what you want "addressed" - I've been clear, if you have a SPECIFIC issue with SPECIFIC examples PM it to me - if you expect me to trawl thru hundreds of threads building an opinion on whatever it is you think is an issue then you are nuts - I have neither the time nor inclination.
For me the issue is clear, ES acted like a baby with his "farewell" and as to the issue of OD posting style - there is no rule on how somebody chooses to debate. It's clear in this thread that people are giving him their opinion & he either takes that on board or he doesn't & people either choose to discuss with him or they don't. I'm not about to get into Policing how people debate.
paulc
12-25-2006, 04:35 PM
I have discussed this on another thread with Vile,and took the oppertunity to read the thread were this sad incident took place,after consideration I couldnt see any favour ism taking place.
I like Vile 'I like es also', I havnt formed an opinion of OD as of yet,as Ive very little contact with him so far, Im not running any anti campaign here,so I will let the matter rest, as I dont want to fall out with anyone on the issue.
Frogger
12-25-2006, 06:47 PM
You're right, Lionel, I have been whiney the past few weeks. I had my foot operated on and it got infected and is still infected. I guess that makes me shorter tempered than usuall. It has been going on almost two months since my operation and the foot still hasn't healed.
If I have been short tempered and whiney lately I apologize and I will try to do better.
As for whether or not to respond to OD, that is a private decision everyone has to make for him/herself. I choose to no longer respond to him. I so choose based not only on the recent events between OD and es but for other reasons as well including mocking PMs. I respect anyone who wishes to interact with OD. That is your choice. I will not be interacting with him any longer as I feel it is a task without reward.
Overdose
12-25-2006, 08:59 PM
I will not be interacting with him any longer ..
:)
Jester
12-26-2006, 02:29 AM
I think this whole thing is a testament to how much people hate Jane Fonda.
paulc
12-26-2006, 02:30 AM
Its nothing personal.
I just hate them exercise videos.
shortstuff
12-26-2006, 03:28 AM
With this being a forum with so many different and diverse opinions not everyone is going to get along. The best you can do is be able to sleep at night with what you have done in the day. It is hard to not take some things personal when they are directed to you or read that it might be directed to you. If you can't take it with a grain of salt and stand your ground in a mature and intelligent way they you have no business posting. Some say grow a thicker skin. True in so many ways this is a place with faceless people, just words on a screen. If you are so sensity that you are hurt by what others post then stop your post cycle and move on to a place were you never have to take your head out of the sand and suck it up. There are good and bad in every culture, race and sexual preferences, it is not an excuss to make any such post an issue of these rights. At the end of the day give the respect you would like shown to you and you can't go wrong IMO.
Frogger
12-26-2006, 03:45 AM
I'm continually baffled by people's inability to debate with you without bring up your sexuality. :shrugs:
Lionel, if you want to announce to the world you don't like or respect me, fine. That is okay with me. Don't lie about me though. I do not make reference to Overdose's sexuality when arguing with him. I may call him annoying, a shit stirrer, a pain in the ass but his sexual preferences are his own and don't enter into the conversation unless he brings them up which he almost invariably does.
paulc
12-26-2006, 04:24 AM
Thanks Mom.
Frogger
12-26-2006, 04:36 AM
Morning, Paul.
LionelHutz
12-26-2006, 09:14 AM
Lionel, if you want to announce to the world you don't like or respect me, fine. That is okay with me. Don't lie about me though. I do not make reference to Overdose's sexuality when arguing with him. I may call him annoying, a shit stirrer, a pain in the ass but his sexual preferences are his own and don't enter into the conversation unless he brings them up which he almost invariably does.
That comment wasn't aimed at you, Frogger.
M&Mdelite
12-26-2006, 03:33 PM
I've never seen a purpose for a good-bye post, when all a poster has to do is to quit posting. I believe a goodbye post like this is meant for controversy. I admit though that I found it very interesting reading all the comments.
Frogger
12-26-2006, 04:48 PM
Since Overdose mentioned me as being one of those who brings up his sexuality in the post to which you were referring, I naturally assumed you also were referring to me.
BorgHunter
12-26-2006, 05:36 PM
Since Overdose mentioned me as being one of those who brings up his sexuality in the post to which you were referring, I naturally assumed you also were referring to me.
Defensive much, Froggy? I understand that you're going through some less than fun times with your foot, but you should relax and life will be much nicer for you. Less stress. Some things aren't worth pursuing, and this is one of those times. Lay on the couch, watch some TV, so on and so forth. Life's too short to be crabby all the time.
Frogger
12-26-2006, 06:01 PM
No, not defensive, Borg. Simply trying to clarify matters. OD accused me of bringing up his sexuality in my posts. Lionel posted that he couldn't understand how people could do that. The natural assumption would be that I was among those to whom Lionel referred. I merely pointed out to him that I had never brought OD's sexuality into an argument. Lionel said he had not been referring to me. The matter ended.
Do you have some reason for trying to keep it going?
Overdose
12-26-2006, 06:22 PM
I merely pointed out to him that I had never brought OD's sexuality into an argument.
:@@:
DrewM
12-26-2006, 06:48 PM
Since Overdose mentioned me as being one of those who brings up his sexuality in the post to which you were referring, I naturally assumed you also were referring to me.
Clearly he wasn't talking about you.
I guess the foot's hurting eh?
Napsterbater
12-26-2006, 08:21 PM
Dear Lord, why every time I take a short break from allforums, someone decides to up and leave, is banned, whatever? :@@:
Seriously people, if you're thinking of leaving allforums, PM me, IM me, email me, whatever. Believe it or not, I defuse a whole lot of personal conflicts around here. I will make sure your grievances are heard to the right people. Goddamn.
*wanders off muttering*
DrewM
12-26-2006, 08:45 PM
Believe it or not, I defuse a whole lot of personal conflicts around here.
No I don't believe it.
:@@:
Napsterbater
12-26-2006, 09:02 PM
Drew, if I told you I had a three inch dick, you would immediately and vehemently disbelieve it, so I'm not surprised.
BorgHunter
12-26-2006, 09:28 PM
Do you have some reason for trying to keep it going?
No, that's why I was trying to end it by suggesting you stop being willfully unpleasant and irritable. Thanks for pointing out my mistake, though, I'll just avoid talking to you until you're in the mood to be jovial again.
Vilepagan
12-27-2006, 06:38 AM
Seriously people, if you're thinking of leaving allforums, PM me, IM me, email me, whatever. Believe it or not, I defuse a whole lot of personal conflicts around here. I will make sure your grievances are heard to the right people. Goddamn.
Of course, if you want anything actually done about said grievances, you should contact a moderator.
Napsterbater
12-27-2006, 08:03 AM
What're you guys going to do? Close a thread? Ban the offender? Move it to spam? Issue a warning? It has been the experience of most of the people here, that moderator attention has made things worse than they actually need to be.
Frogger
12-27-2006, 08:34 AM
Nappy,
If you told me you had a three inch dick I would think you were exagerating.:hitout:
~Sal~
12-27-2006, 09:24 AM
Nappy,
If you told me you had a three inch dick I would think you were exagerating.:hitout:
Baaaaaaaaahaaa!
DrewM
12-27-2006, 09:42 AM
Drew, if I told you I had a three inch dick, you would immediately and vehemently disbelieve it, so I'm not surprised.
No, I'd believe that.
Vilepagan
12-27-2006, 10:52 AM
What're you guys going to do? Close a thread? Ban the offender? Move it to spam? Issue a warning?
Possibly.
It has been the experience of most of the people here, that moderator attention has made things worse than they actually need to be.
So now you speak for most of the people here?
smartmouthwoman
12-27-2006, 10:53 AM
No, I'd believe that.
But yeah, I'd believe it too.
:D
Napsterbater
12-27-2006, 06:26 PM
If you told me you had a three inch dick I would think you were exagerating.
No, I'd believe that.
But yeah, I'd believe it too.
*Throws hands up in mock supplication*
Please, Lord, save me from this onslaught of predictability! Deliver upon these blessed peoples of yours originality and pluck! Let them learn how to wield their keyboards with grace and dignity! Absolve them of the pains of mediocrity!
Evakian
12-27-2006, 06:28 PM
Actually Frogger's response wasn't entirely predictable.
DrewM
12-27-2006, 09:52 PM
Absolve them of the pains of mediocrity!
There you go again.
Hey why not tell us some more stories about screwing hookers while your dad watches....
Napsterbater
12-27-2006, 10:12 PM
Actually Frogger's response wasn't entirely predictable.
You just don't know Frogger's posts well enough. When I posted it, I knew Drew was going to respond exactly as he did, and I was pretty sure Frogger was going to chime in similarly, and someone else would, too. That it was SMW was just an added bonus for my premeditated response. I drove seven hours today, so I had a lot of time to think about it.
Hey why not tell us some more stories about screwing hookers while your dad watches....
There's a pretty good reason I put that story in the Gold Member section, why don't you respect that? Oh, that's right, you're an arrogant fucking ass! Why would you respect anyone?
DrewM
12-27-2006, 10:36 PM
Simply because I don't believe a single word you type - you are full of tall stories, self worship and not much else.
Napsterbater
12-27-2006, 11:26 PM
You keep telling yourself that buddy.
DrewM
12-28-2006, 12:32 AM
and you keep on telling your tall stories. I enjoy reading them.