A Research Documentary on Jesus Surviving crucifixion and migrating to Kashmir with sub-titles in Urdu.
http://www.thelastoutpost.com/site/1389/default.aspx

Very interesting. Of course the claims at the very end are a little over the top but the rest of it seems to hold water.

Thanks for sharing Guerilla

Also, I like your new sig. Funny stuff.

Wow! I watched that whole video. It was rather enlightening, although I don't really understand why that would mean the end of Christianity... You could still believe that Jesus was the son of God, and that he is in Heaven as "the right hand of God" now. Not that I believe that, of course, but I don't see how Jesus dying a natural death when he was old couldn't fit in with Christianity.

Interesting. For the most part.

Heres a few names of historians, that were not Christian who are known for their records of biblical figures including Jesus.

One of these historians mentions the crucifixion and resurection of Jesus Christ and talks about Pontius Pilate.

Flavius Josephus, a 1st century Jewish historian. Presumed by some to have rubbed shoulders with the Maccabees and eventualy became a Roman citizen.
Some of his works are debated, but only some. Which would also be the works he wrote of Jesus and Pilot. As per the norm, its more over translations and meaning.

Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus, another 1st century historian. Also known as Pliny the Younger. Pliny also writes of Jesus and other biblical figures.
Both of these men were not Christian.
Pliny practiced law in Rome as a Roman citizen as well as wrote philosophy of Ancient Rome.


Mara Bar-Serapion, writing later than 73 CE to his son, says, "What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise king?... He lived on in the teaching which he had given."


Cornelius Tacitus, wrote in 120 CE, "Nero punished...a class of men, loathed for their vices, whom the crowd styled Christians. Christus, the founder of the name, had undergone the death penalty in the reign of Tiberius, by sentence of the procurator Pontius Pilatus."

Of course the reason the soldiers broke the legs of someone who was being crucified was to suffocate them. While hanging from the cross it would become hard to breath so those being crucifide would bobb up and down to take breaths.
While Jesus did not have his legs broke, he did have a spear put through his side. A person whos job it was to make sure people were dead put the sprear through his side. Also it meant death to a soldier who did not make sure someone being crucified was dead.
The recording only focusses on the quickness of his death. Doesn't tell you about the water coming out of Jesus side when he was stabbed.

I just wanted to add:

Jesus was a super dude, even if some of his "followers" aren't.

I just wanted to add:

Jesus was a super dude, even if some of his "followers" aren't.

I agree, real or unreal.

The writers above could have been repeating hear-say. Yet, to have fabricated and carried over such an original story would have required quite a unique ability.
Then, stories do get added to and subtracted from, especially in a period when oral historys were the norm.

The concept of the story is wonderful; the legend of a hero of the people.

Real or not, the teachings are worthy of consideration.

There is a class that I'm looking forward to taking next year called "The Bible as Literature". It examines the Bible from a literary and historical point of view. I'm also very interested in the psychological aspect of religion.

Did Jesus Die on the cross?

Not yet.

Myths are amazingly resistant to being killed off.

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Religion is the one area of discourse in America in which people are systematically protected from the requirement to provide evidence and valid arguments in defense of their fantastic claims (i.e., that 2000 years ago some man-god named "Jesus" existed) and strongly held beliefs. And yet these beliefs regularly determine what they live for, what they will die for and -all too often- what they will kill for. Consequently, we are living in a world in which millions of ostensibly sane men and women can rationalize the violent sacrifice of their own children by recourse to the fairy tales contained in a huge tome of superstitious nonsense dating from the Bronze Age.