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LionelHutz
11-16-2006, 11:49 AM
This kid is not a likely future Nobel laureate.

Kid tries to steal legos (http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=43737)


Largo, Florida - Largo Police are looking for a little girl who pulled a knife on a Wal-Mart clerk as she tried to steal two boxes of Lego toy blocks.

It happened on the Missouri Avenue around 9:00 pm Tuesday night.

Police say the 7 to 8-year-old girl hid the toys under her coat and tried to walk out the door.

A store employee was watching and approached the child, asking her to turn over the Lego blocks.

Police say the little girl then opened her jacket and displayed a combo carving knife with a forked point and a 10" blade, saying she was armed for protection.

The employee talked the girl into putting down the knife and the toys.

The girl then rode away on her bicycle.

The employee was not hurt.

es347fan
11-16-2006, 11:53 AM
Fortunately she wasn't packing a pistol. That'll be next.

DanF
11-16-2006, 12:05 PM
Do not think that all these young kids are small in statute either. I have a 9 year old nephew that is tall and weights 174 pounds. He is a lineman for a football team and is currently in the All stars playing for the Georgia state championship. The kid is strong as an ox and could be a handfull for most adults.

rendova
11-16-2006, 01:01 PM
Kids can formulate the idea and understand the concept of murder by age 6.

So you better get them what they want for Christmas or you'll end up 6 feet under while the kid serves 8 years at the JD center, to have his record expunged upon release.

Kinda like what happened to those 2 murderous brats in England who beat, threw paint in the eyes of, hit repeatedly with a brick, and then left the battered body of 2 year old James Bulger on the railroad tracks to be cut in half.

They were both age 8. Upon their release from their ferocious 8 year sentence spent playing video games, they both got new identities and anyone who releases their former names or whereabouts will face criminal charges.

The Dude
11-16-2006, 02:10 PM
Fortunately she wasn't packing a pistol. That'll be next.Yes very scary.......

I wonder if they found her.

500lbguerilla
11-16-2006, 02:29 PM
oh, They grow up so fast...

LionelHutz
11-16-2006, 09:32 PM
Nothing like letting your kid wander around at 9:00pm on a school night.

Decka
11-16-2006, 10:08 PM
yea.. as the years go by the stories get more and more extreme...

The Dude
11-16-2006, 10:17 PM
Heres the video report

http://anonym.to?mms://wm.wtsp.gannett.edgestreams.net/news/200611/16/lego.wmv

The Praetorian
11-17-2006, 01:30 PM
Legos are inherently evil anyway -

http://tinypic.com/4bhl854

~Sal~
11-17-2006, 05:20 PM
Nothing like letting your kid wander around at 9:00pm on a school night.
Probably was one of those hungry kids...;)

The Dude
11-17-2006, 11:07 PM
I cant believe she just rode away!!!!

Her Bike must have been faster than the security people's cars!!

:D

CarbonBasedLife
11-18-2006, 12:16 AM
Kids can formulate the idea and understand the concept of murder by age 6.

So you better get them what they want for Christmas or you'll end up 6 feet under while the kid serves 8 years at the JD center, to have his record expunged upon release.

Kinda like what happened to those 2 murderous brats in England who beat, threw paint in the eyes of, hit repeatedly with a brick, and then left the battered body of 2 year old James Bulger on the railroad tracks to be cut in half.

They were both age 8. Upon their release from their ferocious 8 year sentence spent playing video games, they both got new identities and anyone who releases their former names or whereabouts will face criminal charges.

What do you think should have happened to the 8 year olds instead?

I understand where you're coming from but on the same token, they were only 8. They could not understand the full consequences of their actions.

DanF
11-18-2006, 04:23 AM
What do you think should have happened to the 8 year olds instead?

Caining!

I understand where you're coming from but on the same token, they were only 8. They could not understand the full consequences of their actions.

Bull!

es347fan
11-18-2006, 05:33 AM
While a child of 8 may not fully appreciate the consequences of their actions, that child is certainly expected to know that both stealing and pointing that knife are considered wrong. Just what did she have in mind when she pulled it out?

rendova
11-18-2006, 08:20 AM
I agree with Dan, carbon.

Caning combined with 25 years hard labor, and then lock up for life would have been an appropriate sentence for this horrendous crime.

The 8 year olds absolutely understood their actions and what they meant. According to later interviews with both boys, they had gone to the mall where they'd abducted James with one sole intent--to find a victim, hurt him, and then kill him. They also later turned on each other and blamed each other for the crime---one boy later went home, washed his bloody clothes, and spent the rest of the afternoon watching cartoons. Neither expressed any remorse whatsoever; in custody, one cried continously and kept asking, "Why can't I go home? I want to go home!"

True psychopathic behaviour and they both appear beyond rehab. IOW, most likely, they'll kill again.

Or perhaps a proper sentence would have been what one English lady said--

"Just turn them over to the mothers on this street."

Vilepagan
11-18-2006, 08:54 AM
I agree with Dan, carbon.

Caning combined with 25 years hard labor, and then lock up for life would have been an appropriate sentence for this horrendous crime.

Ren, an 8 year-old is clearly a child. Committing a horrendous crime does not denote any maturity on their part.


The 8 year olds absolutely understood their actions and what they meant.

You know this how?


According to later interviews with both boys, they had gone to the mall where they'd abducted James with one sole intent--to find a victim, hurt him, and then kill him.

This indicates premeditation, not maturity.


They also later turned on each other and blamed each other for the crime---one boy later went home, washed his bloody clothes, and spent the rest of the afternoon watching cartoons. Neither expressed any remorse whatsoever; in custody, one cried continously and kept asking, "Why can't I go home? I want to go home!"

I don't see how you could show more clearly that these two were clueless as to the consequences of their actions.


True psychopathic behaviour and they both appear beyond rehab.

No offense Ren, but no credible psychologist or psychiatrist would make that call based on reading some interviews.


IOW, most likely, they'll kill again.

Pure speculation.


Or perhaps a proper sentence would have been what one English lady said--

"Just turn them over to the mothers on this street."

I don't think anyone knows what a proper sentence is in these situations. These crimes are so beyond the pale that it's difficult to know how to deal with them, but I see no benefit to society, the victims, or the perpetrators in abandoning all logic and labelling them as adults. An 8 year-old is clearly not an adult, no matter what their behavior.

rendova
11-18-2006, 09:13 AM
Vile, the fact that the one boy cried about wanting to go home indicates, to me, a lack of remorse. He appeared more concerned with being locked up, IOW, getting caught, than being sorry about what he had done.

We can get a good, not perfect, but good idea of their mindset from interviews with the boys, as well as their actions, which indicate personality.

No, we can't say with any proof positive that they'll kill again. However, seeing as how they committed a crime of this magnitude to begin with, one in which clear premeditation was shown, indicates, to me, that they may very well once again commit a similar crime. Especially given the fact that they both received a minimal punishment for their first crime.

Personally I found their 8 year sentence at the JD lockup almost as shocking as the crime itself. The English barrister appeared to have a similar mindset, which is why she ( I believe the judge was a she) gave them new identities upoon release--obviously fearing the repercussions of the public at large should they ever be found.

You're correct in saying that an 8 year old is clearly a child. However, it appears, sadly, that the patterns of their behaviour was set even before that young age. IOW, they've missed the boat a long long time ago, probably around age 5, and it isn't coming back!

A terrible set of circumstances all around.

Jester
11-18-2006, 10:15 AM
Vile, the fact that the one boy cried about wanting to go home indicates, to me, a lack of remorse. He appeared more concerned with being locked up, IOW, getting caught, than being sorry about what he had done.
That could also mean that he didn't understand the gravity of what he did, hence not having any remorse.

rendova
11-18-2006, 12:41 PM
Respectfully, Jester, but I think that's highly unlikely.

Note how the boy washed his clothes and made sure to do this before his mother came home from her job.

Also, the boys spent some few hours with James before they killed him, wandering the streets with the little tot in tow. They were spotted by many witnesses who saw a fearful and crying little boy, sobbing for his mother. When one woman confronted the boys and asked what was happening, the boys glibly replied that James was their brother and that he was unhappy because he had no candy.

In other words, both boys lied and covered up.

Make no mistake, these boys, who had a long term reputation in their community and at their school as malicious and bullying brats, knew exactly what they were doing. It was only when confronted with the videotaped evidence of them abducting the little boy , that they even confessed.

Vilepagan
11-18-2006, 03:56 PM
Respectfully, Jester, but I think that's highly unlikely.

Note how the boy washed his clothes and made sure to do this before his mother came home from her job.

Also, the boys spent some few hours with James before they killed him, wandering the streets with the little tot in tow. They were spotted by many witnesses who saw a fearful and crying little boy, sobbing for his mother. When one woman confronted the boys and asked what was happening, the boys glibly replied that James was their brother and that he was unhappy because he had no candy.

In other words, both boys lied and covered up.

They sound like two monstrous children.


Make no mistake, these boys, who had a long term reputation in their community and at their school as malicious and bullying brats, knew exactly what they were doing. It was only when confronted with the videotaped evidence of them abducting the little boy , that they even confessed.

Do you think they understood what death is?

AngelDust
11-19-2006, 10:34 AM
i blame james mother for not watching him better.

The Praetorian
11-20-2006, 10:22 AM
You know this how?
How many 8 year olds do you see pulling that kind of shit, Vile?

In short, that's how Ren knows, and based on the circumstances, I'd agree with her.

Napsterbater
11-20-2006, 01:07 PM
Kinda brings Lord of the Flies to mind.