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coberst
11-07-2006, 04:53 AM
A Return to the Self

Uses of solitude—valuable resource when changes of mental attitude are required—solitude can be as therapeutic as emotional support from a friend.

Our way of thinking about life and ourselves is so habitual that it takes time and effort to change attitudes—people find it difficult to make changes in attitude but solitude and perhaps changes in environment facilitate changes in attitude because habit is fortified by external environment—religion is well aware of these facts—only through experience of change in environment can one know if such change will facilitate change in attitude—one needs not just solitude but one needs to be able to sink roots into some replenishing philosophy also.

Solitude is not to subject oneself to sensor deprivation, which can lead to hallucinations. One needs the stimulation of the senses and the intellect.

Imagination—solitude can facilitate the growth of imagination—imagination has given humans flexibility but has robbed her of contentment—our non-human ancestors are governed by pre-programmed patterns-- these preprogrammed patterns have inhibited growth when the environment changes—humans are governed primarily by learning and transmission of culture from generation to generation and is thus more able to adapt—for humans so little is predetermined by nature and so much is dependent upon learning—happiness, the contentment with the status quo is only a fleeting feeling—“divine discontent” is the gift of our nature that brings moments of ecstasy and a life time of discontent—the present is such a fleeting part of our reality that we are almost always in the past or the future.

I think that a regular dose of solitude is very important for everyone, young and old. Does that make sense to you?

This stuff comes from reading “Solitude: A Return to the Self” by Anthony Storr. Most of this is snatches of text that is sometimes a paraphrase and sometimes a quotation.

BorgHunter
11-07-2006, 11:31 AM
In this vein, I have a bit to say about introversion.

I am an introvert. Though I enjoy talking to people, it tires me out, in general, and I need time alone to recuperate. In high school, I surrounded myself with fellow introverts, and I never went to parties or anyone's house or anything, so I had plenty of recharge time.

In college, I have extroverted friends. I'll feel tired and like I want to be alone sometimes, but my friends don't seem to understand this, and constantly want me to go watch a movie, or South Park, or hang out in someone's room. While these are enjoyable activities and I do them all the time, sometimes I don't wish to because I happen to be tired. No one understands the introvert.

Oldtimer
11-07-2006, 12:43 PM
Finding the correct balance between solitude and being gregarious is difficult. Both are necessary.

~Sal~
11-07-2006, 12:59 PM
No one understands the introvert.
Although other introverts would get it, for the most part you are right. Remember the breakdown on the Myers-Brigg, interverts are only 25% of the population. I can't remember your other category breakdowns since we did them so long ago, so I don't know what your over-all population representation was, but my guess is your "type" will be a small percentage.

~Sal~
11-07-2006, 01:10 PM
Finding time for solitude can be difficult. Even though I live alone it seems for the most part in the current relationship that I am in, we are always together. If I am not with him, I make time for my girlfriends since I don't want to lose their friendship and maintaining friendship takes time.
I know I could make more alone time by just shutting down the computer and turning off the tv or closing the book. However I think there are times in our life when solitude is more necessary than other times.

When we have taken huge blocks of time to reflect upon what we desire for our life; what brings us peace, what we value in ourselves and others, what our strengths are, weaknesses that need to be worked on, how the world works, then we must set aside alone time and go out and live. The things we find within ourselves during solitude are only tools to help us develop further as we live. The conclusions reached in that alone time hopefully make us more balanced and capable of giving to ourselves and others. Nothing beats peace of mind and strong healthy relationships.

BorgHunter
11-07-2006, 01:42 PM
Although other introverts would get it, for the most part you are right. Remember the breakdown on the Myers-Brigg, interverts are only 25% of the population. I can't remember your other category breakdowns since we did them so long ago, so I don't know what your over-all population representation was, but my guess is your "type" will be a small percentage.
I'm an INTJ. 1% of of the population.

~Sal~
11-07-2006, 01:51 PM
I'm an INTJ. 1% of of the population.
Holy, an introverted, intuitive, thinking, judger. The other part there that really limits the number of others in your category will be in the intuitive part I think...I'll see if I can rake up the percentage breakdown...

Evakian
11-07-2006, 03:37 PM
I'm an INTJ too, Borg.

I require a great deal of "alone time" as well, and my friends are extroverts, so I do not spend much time doing things with them. As a rule, I fear people and social occasions. I do things by myself, and having to be around others is in itself tiring. Basically, I loathe people. But, like Borg, I do find the occasional outing a worthwhile experience.

~Sal~
11-07-2006, 04:07 PM
Population percentage breakdown chart is as follows:

DIFFERENCES

E (75 % of population) versus I (25 % of population)
Sociability/ Territoriality
Interaction/ Concentration
External/ Internal
Breadth/ Depth
Extensive/ Intensive
Multiplicity of relationships/ Limited Relationships
Expenditure of energies/ Conservation of energies
Interest in external events/ Interest in internal reaction

S (75% of population) versus N (25% of population)
Experience/ Hunches
Past/ Future
Realistic/ Speculative
Perspiration/ Inspiration
Actual/ Possible
Down-to-earth/ Head-in-clouds
Utility/ Fantasy
Fact/ Fiction
Practicality/ Ingenuity
Sensible/ Imaginative

T(50% of population) versus F (50% of population)
Objectives/ Subjective
Principles/ Values
Policy/ Social Values
Laws/ Extenuating circumstances
Criterion/ Intimacy
Firmness/ Persuasion
Impersonal/ Personal
Justice/ Humane
Categories/ Harmony
Standards/ Good or bad
Critique/ Appreciate
Analysis/ Sympathy
Allocation/ Devotion

J (50% of population) versus P (50% of population)
Settled/ Pending
Decided/ Gather more data
Fixed/ Flexible
Plan ahead/ Adapt as you go
Run one’s life/ Let life happen
Closure/ Open options
Decision- making/ Treasure hunting
Planned/ Open ended
Completed/ Emergent
Decisive/ Tentative
Wrap it up/ Something will turn up
Urgency/ There’s plenty of time
Deadline!/ What deadline
Get show on the road/ Let’s wait and see……..

Oldtimer
11-07-2006, 11:29 PM
Snap

coberst
11-08-2006, 06:55 AM
Here is an expression one reader made to my OP on another forum.

Don't give me solitude
Because I'll have to try
To dig among my thoughts
To find a reason why.
Please busy me with work.
If there's time let me drink.
Give me philosophy
So I don't really think.
My Blackberry I need,
My cell phone and TV,
To occupy my mind.
Alone I can not be.

Inspired by coberst's thread "Return to self"