In their quest to justify the war in Iraq, the government published detailed Saddam-era documents in arabic on how to build a nuclear bomb - freely availble on the internet for anyone. Speculations are, that powers like Iran can actually use this information for their own bombmaking. The US first realized their error, when the IEAE complained about the documents.
Good job fighting the spread of WMDs!

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03documents.html?hp&ex=11SpamSpamSpam16400&en=8326da2ccc77699e&ei=5094&partner=homepage
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-nukes3nov03,1,6235493.story?coll=la-news-a_section

don't forget the fact that the US already gave Iran plans as to how and make a nuclear bomb

And the fact that Iranians speak farsi.

And the fact that Iranians speak farsi.
I'm pretty sure there's someone in Iran who speaks Arabic.

I'm pretty sure there's someone in Iran who speaks Arabic.

Nope. Not one. :rolleyes:



Actually - on a funny related note, Iran outlawed foreign words. Like pizza and cottage (I think).

Either someone in the government is stupider than anyone who holds the position is likely to be, or it could be a disinformation campaign, with plans that would never work. Such a thing, if believed, could slow Iranian progress, as well as the progress of anyone else trying to build a weapon.

I'm pretty sure there's someone in Iran who speaks Arabic.

You can find someone in almost any country that can speak Arabic.

You can find someone in almost any country that can speak Arabic.My point exactly.

A few things, elp.

First off, people here in the States were screaming about what threat Saddam posed. Where's the threat? Where's the threat? Saddam's not a threat! This whole Iraq war thing is bogus! That kind of thing. SOOOOO, the Bush Administration starts releasing captured and translated Iraqi documents detailing exactly what Saddam and company were up to. Apparently, the Iraqi government, under Hussein, where up to quite a bit, seeing as how they did have detailed plans to build a bomb. Plans so detailed that release of those documents could help a nation like Iran (I'll get to that later) build THEIR nuclear bomb.

Now the thing about the release of those documents is that they prove that Saddam, he's not a threat, Hussien was within a year of actually building a nuclear weapon. Here's the quote from the "New York Times" story;

Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq had abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away.

So, the Bush Administration, under seige over the issue of whether or not Saddam was a threat released documents detailing EXACTLY what Hussein was up to, plans so specific that it could help the well equipped rogue nation build an atomic bomb. It's kind of a catch-22. The part that gets forgotten is that Saddam was on the verge of having The Bomb. Should that not be the meat of the story.

For those of you paranoid about the Iranian and Korean government using such info to build their bombs, that info has been taken off the 'net. Admittedly too late, but the point has been proven that Saddam wasn't interested in peace.

Oh, and here's the bit about Saddam and his WMD programs, stuff so detailed that U.N. arms control officials asked to have THAT taken off the 'net;

The government had received earlier warnings about the contents of the Web site. Last spring, after the site began posting old Iraqi documents about chemical weapons, United Nations arms-control officials in New York won the withdrawal of a report that gave information on how to make tabun and sarin, nerve agents that kill by causing respiratory failure.

I've been saying over and over and over and OVER again that Saddam was a lying some-bitch that was just waiting till the international community got tired of playing wack-a-mole in trying to seperate that man from his WMDs and start all out production of WMDs.

This article, unintentional of course, DETAILS that Saddam was a threat, he had the tech to build a bomb. He had the tech to make WMDs. This kind of kills the entire idea that Saddam wasn't a threat and Bush was lying, dammit.

http://tks.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTJjYzYzYmMwNjY3N2YwNWE5NDQ3ZTQzZDczZWU5N2Y=

OH, I forgot to add this part, isn't the Iranian government supposed to be using its nuclear program strictly for peaceful purposes?

Dammit.

Dammit.

The article clearly states that the plans put on the internet were plans from Iraq's pre-1991 program. Not any program Saddam had in progress afterwards, which the Duelfer Report clearly stated that never existed.

See, we have real plans to build nuclear weapons, which involve huge labratories, centrifuge farms and teams of scientists, things that didn't exist in Iraq after 1991 and we have the Darth Be'lal version of plans to build nuclear weapons, which is a post-it note on Saddam's fridge saying, "build nukes."

Not that nuclear weapons have to be terribly sophisticated in order to be deadly. The same design used in WW2 still works, and, while inefficient, will still level a city. Iran doesn't have to go far to find good plans.

All in all though, the charges leveled by the Bush administration against Saddam were that he already had them, or was on the verge of having them, and was ready and willing to use them, not "someday, if Saddam works really hard, he might have nukes." Please remember that things like big wars tend to throw monkey wrenches into delicate plans, and the first Gulf War left Saddam's nuclear aspirations in shambles.

The American public should have demanded much much more impressive documentation of what Saddam was doing right fucking now, instead of what he was doing ten years ago, before agreeing to embark on this farce.

See, we have real plans to build nuclear weapons, which involve huge labratories, centrifuge farms and teams of scientists, things that didn't exist in Iraq after 1991 and we have the Darth Be'lal version of plans to build nuclear weapons, which is a post-it note on Saddam's fridge saying, "build nukes."

(Taken from a report I stumbled across while surfing the 'net. This was written in '98.)

Really, Napster? Interesting. Saddam's nuclear weapons program amounted to a "post-it" note? Let's see;

* Saddam had zillions of dollars rolling in from the Oil For Food program, so he had the money.

*Iraq has natural uranium, there is also some three TONS of uranium that are unaccounted for. So he had the raw materials.

* There are missing nuclear weapons equipment including "Group 4" nuclear weaponization equipment, uranium conversion equipment were unaccounted for,one plutonium-beryllium neutron source, potentially useful as a neutron initiator for a nuclear bomb was never found. So Saddam HAD THE EQUIPMENT to build a bomb.

*Saddam had scientists of the kind of caliber to make a nuclear warhead. So the expertise was there.

*The icing on the cake is that Saddam had plans for a nuke so complete that the world scientific community went and collectively filled their pants when they realized just how detailed those plans were.

Let's see, money? Check! Raw materials? Check! Equipment? Check! Techinicians? Check! PLANS FOR A NUCLEAR BOMB? CHECK, dammit!

Sounds like Saddam was rolling towards a nuclear weapon there, napster. And before you go off and say that Saddam's nuclear weapons were destroyed in the first Gulf War, be sure to read the report by the Nuclear Control Institute and check the date. It was published in 1998!

Oh, and be sure to dig up a copy of the Duelfer report to see all the other illegal weapons programs Saddam had his team of baddies building.

Dang, napster, it seems that MY version is the RIGHT version, dammit.

http://www.nci.org/iraq/iraq511.htm

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/duelfer/index.html

http://www.heritage.org/Research/InternationalOrganizations/wm583.cfm

Money doesn't mean anything. And it's quite common for raw materials like uranium to go unaccounted for. The nuclear relics you speak of were unaccounted for. This does not mean they were in his hands. In glorified parking lots like Iraq, stuff can disappear. Hell, how many actual nuclear weapons are unaccounted for in Russia? And they were far more organized than the Iraqis.

The Duelfer report states that Saddam was under pressure from international sanctions and planned to renew its nuclear program soon after the sanctions were lifted, something that the Iraqis seemed to believe could happen sometime soon. They found no equipment, fissionable material, only the information on how. Stands to reason seeing as how copies of it can be easily made and hidden. Written plans are good at scaring people with, but Iraq had no capability to actually build any of the nukes they had written such detailed plans for fifteen years ago, while they had the West combing over their every move.

Had we kept an eye on Saddam, we could have averted a war, a costly occupation, and the money dumpster that is the Iraqi reconstruction.

The nyt, complaining about classified material being released? The irony is too rich.