Bush and Lieberman, American zionists

He starts war in Mid-east, for the security of Israel. And he wants more (Iran and Syria) Bush doesn't care for the interest of US. He let American fight and die for his master. Says it's for Freedom. He is not a Republican. He is an American Zionist like Joe Lieberman. (Who is not a Demo, too). Both party now start to realize it. The reddest state rises to slam Bush.

Re: Salt Lake City, Utah mayor slams 'dishonest, war-mongering' Bush

David Edwards
Published: Thursday August 31, 2006

During a rally held in Salt Lake City yesterday, thousands cheered Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson as he blasted George Bush as a "dishonest, war-mongering, human-rights-violating president."

Utah is considered to be the "reddest" state, showing that there is growing debate about the Iraq war even in friendly Bush territory.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Video_Salt_Lake_City_mayor_leads_0831.html

Re: "Bush breaks rank to boost independent's bid
18 August 2006

WASHINGTON — President George Bush gave a boost to Connecticut senator Joe Lieberman's re-election bid as an independent this week by taking the rare step of refusing to endorse the Republican candidate running for Lieberman's US senate seat.

It is highly unusual for a sitting president not to endorse a senate candidate from his own party and suggests the depth of the political machinations over Lieberman's seat after his defeat in last week's Democratic primary by Ned Lamont, a well-financed challenger running on an antiwar platform.

http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/world.aspx?ID=BD4A252493

...and the world is coming to an end :bombout:

Quote, "Lieberman leads Lamont 70 percent to 9 percent among likely Republican voters, with 18 percent for Schlesinger, and 58-36 among likely independent voters. Likely Democratic voters back Lamont, 55 percent to 36 percent." (AccessNorthGA)

1. Lieberman is more a Republican than a Demo.
This proves there is no big difference between Demo and GOP. Election is only a game, democracy is a hoax. All the politicians work for one master: the Inside Group.

2. Though media said most Americans are anti- Iraq war, once it fell on their favorite candidate, the opinion won't work. Lieberman voted for Iraq war. He collaborates with Bush pretty good. It proves media works for the Inside group. Poll is only a mind control tool. When they decide to keep Lieberman on the seat, the media push out a poll to convince public that Lieberman's victory is inevitable.

The question is: Do people vote to their opinion, or vote to the poll? How can anti-war people vote for a pro-war candidate?

3. US politicians are controlled by Israel. The mid-east war is for the security of Israel. So those pro-war politicians will stay because there are more war (Iran and Syria) waiting for them to approve. Through Lieberman's case you can see:: Israel rule the world by proxy. They let Americans fight and die for them.

This is how the Inside group rules the US: They pick up politicians by rigged election. (control intelligence) And justify the election by poll. (control media.)

Quote, "Gunmen in military-style uniforms have kidnapped more than 100 men from a research institute belonging to Iraq's higher education ministry.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6146152.stm

A Holocaust in Iraq

It's obviously an operation of CIA special force, or a special force trained by CIA. No one else could do it in such way. The strategy is to wipe out the Iraq elite which possibly will become opposing party when US troops withdraw from Iraq. US is systematically carring out a holocaust.

Quote, "Soldiers say officers commanded them to 'kill all military age males' in Iraq

Associated Press

EL PASO, Texas - Four U.S. soldiers accused of murdering suspected insurgents during a raid in Iraq said they were under orders to "kill all military age males," according to sworn statements obtained by The Associated Press.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-07-21-soldiers-statements_x.htm

k-sung,

Do you have any other hobbies or activities that would allow you to get up off the computer keyboard and go outside?

Take a walk or something, will you?
I think you need some fresh air and exercise.
:smile2:

During a rally held in Salt Lake City yesterday, thousands cheered Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson as he blasted George Bush as a "dishonest, war-mongering, human-rights-violating president."


WOW!!!!! I am truly astonished.

Never in my wildest dreams did I think there'd be a widespread outbreak of enlightened, level-headed thinking in this country, much less in the ultra-conservative bastion of Utah. Unbelievable.

Bravo to Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson for recognizing the truth, and bravo to the people who cheered his remarks.

If it can happen there, it almost makes one believe this nation could at some point possibly regain its sanity and begin to view Bush and his ConservaFascist ilk for what they are.......

this talk is useless
conservatives are bad
liberals are bad
socialists and conservafascists and freethinking humans alike are bad
all must die
machines will rise, machines will conquer, machines will rule

The sky is falling, the sky is falling. ... It's a good job the sky is so high above us. It's been falling for what seems forever, and it's still not reached us.

The sky is falling, the sky is falling. ...

This is the second time in 7 posts that that puerile rejoinder has been tossed out.

You (and others here) are wise to have chosen to ridicule a point that no one is forwarding.

That way, it is much easier to act as if you've refuted something.

Nowhere on this entire thread has anyone suggested that --"The sky is falling".

The person starting this thread has merely pointed out a couple of interesting things that have taken place and that were reported on in the news. Nowhere in his posting has he made the slightest hint that it signifies that - "the sky is falling".

If you or Dunkirk were to instigate a thread discussing, say, the issue of illegal immigration, would it make any sense or would it do anything to promote discussion for those posters who regarded that particular issue as being of very little importance or significance to begin taunting your concern with jeers of --"The sky is falling!, the sky is falling!...it's a good job the sky is so high above us!"......??

No. It wouldn't

Quote, "new wars ahead

This very interesting and informative article by our Washington friend Jeff Steinberg fits well with our latest transmissions. It appears in the Nov. 17, 2006 issue of Executive Intelligence Review.

Cheney and Neo-Cons Plotting More Wars

by Jeffrey Steinberg


On March 11, 2003, as final preparations were under way for the neo-cons' greatest triumph--the invasion of Iraq--New Yorker magazine investigative reporter Seymour Hersh exposed an extortion scheme by neo-con Richard Perle, to extract tens of millions of dollars out of the Saudi royal family, in league with the infamous Iran-Contra arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi. The scheme involved a Perle company, Trireme Partners LP, which wanted a piece of the billions of dollars in homeland security contracts soon to be issued by the Kingdom. The proposal, according to Prince Bandar bin Sultan, then the Saudi Ambassador in Washington, smacked of a quid pro quo: Perle, a leading critic of the Saudi regime, would drop the propaganda barrage and the calls for regime change, coming out of his Defense Policy Board, and the Saudis would cough up.

Several senior U.S. intelligence officials recently told EIR that some higher-ups in the Saudi royal family, perhaps including Prince Bandar, who is now the national security advisor to King Abdullah, regret that they didn't take the bait and pay off Perle and his partners back in January 2003. A few million dollars might have saved them several years of headaches, as the neo-con propaganda Wurlitzer waged a non-stop regime-change campaign against them. But even more to the point, suddenly, the Saudis, along with several other Sunni Arab regimes, find themselves as strange bedfellows with Washington's neo-cons and with the Ehud Olmert government in Israel--in common cause against Iran.

A Nov. 3, 2006 teaser from Vanity Fair magazine revealed that the neo-cons are going through a major retooling--wiping their hands of the entire Iraq fiasco, and placing the blame for the failure squarely on the shoulders of President George W. Bush and his team of national security incompetents and nincompoops. In a preview of a story to appear in the January 2007 Vanity Fair, author David Rose delivered excerpts from interviews he conducted in October 2006 with some of the cream of the neo-con crap--starting with the ``Prince of Darkness,'' Perle himself, and also including Kenneth Adelman, who gained infamy by proposing that the U.S. Lovers of Iraqi faker Ahmed Chalabi, and Iraq warhawks to a man, these neo-cons are now saying that if they had it to do over again, knowing that the Bush-Cheney-Rice team was the most incompetent national security management group in the post-World War II history of America, they would have opted for an alternative to war.

In a scene worthy of Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, these modern-day Brutuses have stabbed President Bush and Condi Rice in the back. As far as the neo-cons are concerned, according to a number of informed Washington sources, both Iraq and George W. Bush are yesterday's news. They are now preparing to survive the fall of the House of Bush, and are already making plans for the next confrontations: against Iran and Russia, to name the top two targets du jour.

While the Bush Presidency is flaming out in the aftermath of what has been dubbed the ``Nov. 7th Massacre,'' the neo-cons are still a formidable force inside the Republican Party, with some leading neo-con superstars, like John Podhoretz, already touting Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) as the elephant they intend to ride back into the Oval Office. Across the aisle, another crew of hardcore neo-cons is preparing to surface within the Democratic Party, should a donkey take the Presidency in 2008. It is reminiscent of the Jimmy Carter era, when scores of life-long ``Scoop Jackson Democrats,'' led by Perle, Stephen Bryen, Ledeen, Gaffney, and Elliott Abrams, slithered over to the GOP as ``Reagan Democrats,'' and, after Ronald Reagan's landslide victory in 1980 over Jimmy Carter, occupied top civilian posts at the Pentagon, and cushy consulting jobs with the Reagan National Security Council.

Whichever party lands in the White House come January 2009, the neo-cons hope to be there to share in the spoils. Either way, they are busily organizing a ``Get Iran'' war alliance with frightened Sunni regimes in the Persian Gulf and Arab world and Israel--to make sure that the Bush-Cheney regime commits one more fatal atrocity--a military strike on Iran's purported secret nuclear weapons sites--before leaving office (see preceding article).

To make sure that this Iran war happens before Team Bush leaves office, the neo-cons are working through their one reliable partner remaining inside the regime--Vice President Dick Cheney. Cheney's office remains Neo-con Central, with David Wurmser and John Hannah still on staff. Elliott Abrams remains the Cheney ``mole'' at the National Security Council.

According to Middle East and Washington sources, this crew was responsible, earlier this year, for trashing all efforts by the Syrian regime of Bashar Assad to reopen direct peace talks with Israel, talks that no Israeli regime prior to that of Ariel Sharon, would have flat-out rejected, no matter how much pressure came down from Washington.

More recently, they are reportedly pushing a covert weapons-smuggling operation into the West Bank, arming Fatah factions to launch what would rapidly become a full-scale civil war against Hamas. The noted retired Israeli general, Shlomo Brom, in a recent paper for the Jaffe Center at Tel Aviv University, warned that such an outbreak of communal violence among the Palestinians would be bad for Israel, provoking a likely split between a Fatah-controlled West Bank and a Hamas-run Gaza Strip. Both sides would be vying to prove that they are more effective in terrorizing Israel, through suicide bombings and rocket attacks, the general warned, and this would make life unbearable in the Jewish state.

Arab sources have added that in his recent trip to Washington, Lebanese Druze leader Walid Jumblatt was given a similar offer of ``covert military aid'' to take on Hezbollah inside that war-ruined nation, which still hasn't recovered from its 15-year civil war (1975-90). Such covert operations, aimed at provoking the neo-cons' beloved perpetual warfare throughout the Eastern Mediterranean region, do not depend on Pentagon muscle, so the departure of Donald Rumsfeld from the scene, and his replacement by former CIA Director Robert Gates, a Brent Scowcroft and James Baker III ally (and presumable a Dick Cheney enemy), does not necessarily interfere with the game.

In fact, as the Democrats prepare to take back control of the U.S. House and Senate in January 2007, they face a world map of hot-spots, all set to blow, with the slightest provocation (see accompanying map).

Several senior Washington intelligence veterans, and one regional vice president of a major U.S. defense firm, say that their greatest fear--between now and the New Year when the Democrats take the keys to Capitol Hill back--is a ``Gulf of Tonkin'' incident, a provocation covertly arranged originating from Washington, that would provide the pretext for war. The most likely target of such a scheme: Iran. The most likely architect of such an operation: Dick Cheney and his remaining coterie of neo-con troublemakers and whatever assets they have recruited from within the Special Forces community and the ``black operations'' side of the intelligence community. One burning question is whether President Bush has already signed a Presidential Intelligence Finding, authorizing these covert tricks.

On Oct. 10, 2006, the web-based magazine World Politics Watch ran a provocative story, echoing the new neo-con scheme, under the headline ``Mideast Realignment: Could Iran Unite Arabs and Israelis?'' Noting the rumors, officially denied by both sides, that Prince Bandar had secretly met in Jordan with a top Israeli government official, Frida Ghitis wrote that ``a handful of Middle East observers were not surprised to hear of possible talks between Israel and the kingdom. That's because they political transformation is fear of Shi'ite Iran by Sunni Arabs. As a result, the traditional enemy of Arabs, Israel, could gradually begin developing a subtle but powerful alliance with Sunni Muslim regimes in the Arab world.... It is this natural convergence of interests that has the potential to recast the political landscape from the traditional one of Arabs versus Israelis, which has dominated the Middle East since the late 1940s, into a Sunni vs. Shi'a alignment, with Israel and Sunni governments on the same side.''

This, Washington sources emphasize, is the latest neo-con wet dream. For years the neo-cons have been preaching their own brand of Leon Trotsky's ``Permanent Revolution,'' masked in the cry for ``democracy.'' From the start of the Bush-Cheney regime up to recent months, the number one target of these latter-day Jacobins had been what Middle Eastern historians referred to as the ``Sunni Stability Belt,'' the ruling combination of hardline monarchies and dictatorships that kept the oil patch safe and stable from the time of Sykes-Picot (1916) on. Now that the neo-con ``Shi'ite Card'' has turned Iraq into Hell-on-Earth, the flexible neo-con fantasists have modified their rhetoric, to suddenly find common cause with the very Sunni Arab monarchs and dictators whom they targetted only months ago, with such schemes as their 1996 ``A Clean Break.''

The neo-cons are shameless sophists, who have no problem distorting the truth beyond recognition--if it suits their goal of perpetual power. Will the Sunni Arab lions and the Israelis be so stupid as to walk into this trap?

Stay tuned.

James Morris <justicequest2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Bush Doesn't Fear Attack on Iran: Israeli Envoy:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=63301

Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson gave a long speech denouncing the President and all the bad deeds done in Bush's name. His definite theme was that unless something radical was done then disaster would befall you all. In that sense, I inferred from him that the sky was indeed falling. His whole speech was political bombast. He proposed nothing new but his speech writer does have a great way with words, for that I congratulate him.
I am both amused and confused by how both parties in your system of government are reacting to the pressures of Iraq. If so many weren't dying it would be comical.

Bush wants Iraq civil war. Let Arabs fight against Arabs. That's why he refuse to have a diplomatic contact with Syria and Iran. What a cunning tactic.

Quote, "Behind the Cheney Trip to Riyadh
(Reprinted with permission of Executive Intelligence Review)
by Jeffrey Steinberg

Nov. 27, 2006 (EIRNS)—A well-placed and highly reliable source has provided the following account of Vice President Dick Cheney's Nov. 25, 2006 visit to Saudi Arabia.

The essential message delivered to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah by Vice President Cheney was that there is no basis for dialogue with Iran. The U.S. position in the region has been weakened, and therefore a new security architecture must be established, particularly in the Persian Gulf, to contain and counter Iran's growing influence. Already, NATO has been in dialogue with Qatar and Kuwait, in pursuit of closer, upgraded cooperation. Cheney proposed to establish a new regional balance of power, through a Sunni Arab alliance with Israel, to confront the Iranian threat. Cheney argued that to negotiate with Iran at this time would be tantamount to surrender. A new military organization will be built, involving the Gulf Cooperation Council states, Egypt, and Jordan. NATO and the United States will be closely involved, and Israel will be a de facto participant. These moves led by Cheney obviously aim to pre-empt adoption by the Bush Administration of any recommendations from the Baker-Hamilton Iraq Study Group, to initiate diplomatic talks with Iran.

Cheney took the lead in proposing this new security architecture. There is, at this point, a consensus inside the Bush Administration to pursue this policy. When President Bush arrives later this week in Amman, Jordan, to meet with Iraq's Prime Minister Maliki, he may also hold secret talks with several senior Syrian officials. In that meeting, President Bush will bluntly offer Syria the opportunity to break its ties to Iran and join in the emerging Sunni Arab bloc.

The approach to Syria coincides with a major effort, within Lebanon, to force Michel Aoun to break his alliance with Hezbollah, in the wake of the assassination of Industry Minister Pierre Gemayel. Over the weekend, there was a meeting of leading Maronites, sponsored by Patriarch Sfeir, aimed at tightening the pressure on Aoun to break with Hezbollah, and join a Sunni Arab, Christian, Druze coalition to counter Hezbollah's power. Were the Syrians to accept the Bush offer (highly unlikely), they would be expected to pressure Hezbollah to disarm, as a condition for negotiations to get the Golan Heights back from Israel.

Condi Rice's planned meeting with Mahmoud Abbas and Ehud Olmert is aimed at kick-starting the Israeli-Palestinian talks. But the key to the Israeli policy will be to complete the construction of the wall, and to build similar walls of separation along the border with Lebanon. The argument is that both Hamas and Hezbollah represent extensions of Iran's influence into the areas bordering on Israel, and they must be contained. The "peace" offer being put on the table will center on these walls of separation.

Iran is already aware of these Cheney-led initiatives. While Arab governments will assume that Iran will react and respond to the attempt to create this Sunni Arab-U.S.-Israel security architecture to confront Iran by playing for sectarian conflict in Iraq, Lebanon and elsewhere, sources caution that Iran is taking a more sophisticated view. Recurring statements by President Ahmadinejad are calculated to instigate an Israeli attack on Iran's purported nuclear weapons sites. Iran anticipates some kind of attack on these sites—either by the United States or Israel. Iran would prefer an Israeli attack for several reasons. First, the United States has far more significant military capabilities to strike Iran than Israel does.

Second, any Israeli attack on a Muslim country would trigger a revolt on the Arab streets. Iran carefully studied the response of the population throughout the Persian Gulf and Arab world to the Israeli attacks on Lebanon this summer. They anticipate massive Arab support, across the sectarian Shi'ite-Sunni divide, for Iran, in the event of an Israeli strike.

http://www.larouchepac.com/pages/press_releases_files/2006/1206_cheney_riyadh.shtml

Quote, 'Robert Fisk: Seen through a Syrian lens,

'unknown Americans' are provoking civil war in Iraq

By Robert Fisk

04/29/06 "The Independent" -- - In Syria, the world appears through a glass, darkly. As dark as the smoked windows of the car which takes me to a building on the western side of Damascus where a man I have known for 15 years - we shall call him a "security source", which is the name given by American correspondents to their own powerful intelligence officers - waits with his own ferocious narrative of disaster in Iraq and dangers in the Middle East.

His is a fearful portrait of an America trapped in the bloody sands of Iraq, desperately trying to provoke a civil war around Baghdad in order to reduce its own military casualties. It is a scenario in which Saddam Hussein remains Washington's best friend, in which Syria has struck at the Iraqi insurgents with a ruthlessness that the United States wilfully ignores. And in which Syria's Interior Minister, found shot dead in his office last year, committed suicide because of his own mental instability.

The Americans, my interlocutor suspected, are trying to provoke an Iraqi civil war so that Sunni Muslim insurgents spend their energies killing their Shia co-religionists rather than soldiers of the Western occupation forces. "I swear to you that we have very good information," my source says, finger stabbing the air in front of him. "One young Iraqi man told us that he was trained by the Americans as a policeman in Baghdad and he spent 70 per cent of his time learning to drive and 30 per cent in weapons training. They said to him: 'Come back in a week.' When he went back, they gave him a mobile phone and told him to drive into a crowded area near a mosque and phone them. He waited in the car but couldn't get the right mobile signal. So he got out of the car to where he received a better signal. Then his car blew up."

Impossible, I think to myself. But then I remember how many times Iraqis in Baghdad have told me similar stories. These reports are believed even if they seem unbelievable. And I know where much of the Syrian information is gleaned: from the tens of thousands of Shia Muslim pilgrims who come to pray at the Sayda Zeinab mosque outside Damascus. These men and women come from the slums of Baghdad, Hillah and Iskandariyah as well as the cities of Najaf and Basra. Sunnis from Fallujah and Ramadi also visit Damascus to see friends and relatives and talk freely of American tactics in Iraq.

"There was another man, trained by the Americans for the police. He too was given a mobile and told to drive to an area where there was a crowd - maybe a protest - and to call them and tell them what was happening. Again, his new mobile was not working. So he went to a landline phone and called the Americans and told them: 'Here I am, in the place you sent me and I can tell you what's happening here.' And at that moment there was a big explosion in his car."

Just who these "Americans" might be, my source did not say. In the anarchic and panic-stricken world of Iraq, there are many US groups - including countless outfits supposedly working for the American military and the new Western-backed Iraqi Interior Ministry - who operate outside any laws or rules. No one can account for the murder of 191 university teachers and professors since the 2003 invasion - nor the fact that more than 50 former Iraqi fighter-bomber pilots who attacked Iran in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war have been assassinated in their home towns in Iraq in the past three years.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12885.htm

...oh really?! Well, I tied a cherry stem into a knot using my tongue today! Don't see too many people rejoicing over that.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12885.htm


Fisk reporting from a country that occupied Lebanon for 30+ yrs??

From a country that continues to murder anti-Syrian MPs of Lebanon?


BTW, the Federal Reserve started WWI. Don't believe that nonsense about Serbian nationalism or the prior 50+ yrs of European animosity.....


Depp!

If there were to be a rule change here, and no I'm not REALLY proposing one, BUT if there were to be a change of rules here, it would be that people just can't copy and paste an article on these boards over and over and OVER, dammit.

If there were to be a rule change here, and no I'm not REALLY proposing one, BUT if there were to be a change of rules here, it would be that people just can't copy and paste an article on these boards over and over and OVER, dammit.

So you are scare of them? Let's check, what kind of article which frightened you so much to propose a rule change?

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The so said civil war is done by US controlled Al Qaida and special commandoes.
Quote, "CIA controled Interior Ministry death squads?

Interior Ministry (130,000 are police, and 10,000 special commandoes) murder:

(Neocon) Bayan Jabr is the latest appointment
...the front man, & let the Israelis run it.

The secret commando units are a mix of Iraqis, Kurds, mercenaries, lead by Israelis.

Who Started The Death Squads?

Bush's neocons ...James Steele & Steven Casteel who were assigned to Paul Bremer, & they established the Interior Ministry's police force. CIA/Special Forces/DEA .... Previously, they established 'counter insurgents' (Death Squads) in S. America....

The Death Squads are a small core of the police. ...leaders are mossad, & the structure consists of Israeli control over mercenaries, & ex-Iraqi military.

The Shias will kill Sunnis, and the Sunnis will kill Shias. Marines will be told it's insurgents, & Muslims foreign fighters. When it's time for Iran, the Zionists will hit America w/ a false flag that points at Iran.

http://judicial-inc.biz/iraqi_death_squads.htm

So you are scare of them? Let's check, what kind of article which frightened you so much to propose a rule change?


Clearly Darth is an agent of the U.S. government. They've tracked you down!!! Flee!!!

So you are scare of them? Let's check, what kind of article which frightened you so much to propose a rule change?


Even worse! It's the grammar police hot on your trail!

You just can't find a good original sentence to cut and paste these days. It's even tougher to cut and paste some reading comprehension skills too.

U.S. forces raid Iranian consulate in Iraq: Tehran
Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:50 AM ET

ARBIL, Iraq (Reuters) - U.S. forces stormed an Iranian consular office in the northern Iraqi Kurdish city of Arbil early on Thursday and arrested five people, including diplomats and staff, Iranian officials said.

The U.S. military made no direct mention of Iranians but in answer to a query issued a statement saying six "individuals" were arrested during "routine" operations in the area.

As the overnight raid was in progress, President George W. Bush was vowing in a keynote address on American television to disrupt what he called the "flow of support" from Iran and Syria for insurgent attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...e-C1-topNews-2

The Provocateur State:
Is the CIA Behind the Iraqi "Insurgents"--and Global Terrorism?
by Frank Morales

WORLD WAR 4 REPORT, May 10, 2005 <http://WW4Report.com>
www.globalresearch.ca <http://globalresearch.ca> 12 May 2005 The URL of this article is: <http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR505A.html>

According to a classified document prepared for Rumsfeld by his Defense Science Board, the new organization--the "Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group (P2OG)"--would actually carry out secret missions designed to provoke terrorist groups into committing violent acts. The P2OG, a 100-member, so-called "counter-terrorist" organization with a $100-million-a-year budget, would ostensibly target "terrorist leaders," but according to P2OG documents procured by Arkin, would in fact carry out missions designed to "stimulate reactions" among "terrorist groups"--which, according to the Defense Secretary's logic, would subsequently expose them to "counter-attack" by the good guys. In other words, the plan is to execute secret military operations (assassinations, sabotage, "deception") which would intentionally result in terrorist attacks on innocent people, including Americans--essentially, to "combat terrorism" by causing it!

WORLD WAR 4 REPORT, May 10, 2005

http://WW4Report.com

www.globalresearch.ca

http://globalresearch.ca

12 May 2005 The URL of this article is:

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR505A.html

Bush needs insurgence

More death is needed to convince people that US has to stay in Mid-East as long as warmonger wish.

Re: "Insurgent" bombs made in USA
Then there was this one.

On May 13, 2005, a 64 years old Iraqi farmer, Haj Haidar Abu Sijjad, took his tomato load in his pickup truck from Hilla to Baghdad, accompanied by Ali, his 11 years old grandson. They were stopped at an American check point and were asked to dismount. An American soldier climbed on the back of the pickup truck, followed by another a few minutes later, and thoroughly inspected the tomato filled plastic containers for about 10 minutes. Haj Haidar and his grandson were then allowed to proceed to Baghdad.

A minute later, his grandson told him that he saw one of the American soldiers putting a grey melon size object in the back among the tomato containers. The Haj immediately slammed on the brakes and stopped the car at the side of the road, at a relatively far distance from the check point. He found a time bomb with the clock ticking tucked among his tomatoes. He immediately recognized it, as he was an ex-army soldier. Panicking, he grabbed his grandson and ran away from the car. Then, realizing that the car was his only means of work, he went back, took the bomb and carried it in fear. He threw it in a deep ditch by the side of the road that was dug by Iraqi soldiers in preparation for the war, two years ago.

Upon returning from Baghdad, he found out that the bomb had indeed exploded, killing three sheep and injuring their shepherd in his head. He thanked God for giving him the courage to go back and remove the bomb, and for the luck in that the American soldiers did not notice his sudden stop at a distance and his getting rid of the bomb.

"They intended it to explode in Baghdad and claim that it is the work of the 'terrorists', or 'insurgents' or who call themselves the 'Resistance'.

I decided to expose them and asked your reporter to take me to Baghdad to tell you the story. They are to be exposed as they now want to sow strife in Iraq and taint the Resistance after failing to defeat it militarily. Do not forget to mention my name. I fear nobody but God, as I am a follower of Muqtada al-Sadir."

The background and admission of guilt for such satanic shenanigans was clearly outlined in Frank Morales' piece on globalresearch.ca: "The Provocateur State: Is the CIA Behind the Iraqi 'Insurgents' - and Global Terrorism," by Frank Morales <<http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MOR505A.html>>

clearly demonstrates how Donald Rumsfeld said he was going to do exactly what these three sorry episodes show he actually did.

To make it more like an insurgence, they kill US troops too. Nothing strange, in 911, they had killed US citizens to justify the Mid-east war.

Sunday, September 25, 2005

Israel Kills US Troops, AIPAC Spies on Investigators
By Cyte

The federal indictment says that AIPAC heads Steven Rosen (director of foreign policy) and Keith Weissman (senior Middle East analyst) sought and obtained classified information about attacks on US troops in Iraq. They also sought and obtained a classified FBI report on the Khobar Tower bombing.

Why is Israel interested in secret reports about attacks on American troops?

US Army Col. J. Denim says the Khobar attackers picked a building that was visited by Israeli advisors. Army bomb experts found residues from explosives that are only available to the US military and Israel.

Marines also believe that it is not Iraqis, but Israeli infiltrators in command and intel who are behind the ambushes.

http://cytations.blogspot.com/2005/09/israel-kills-us-troops-aipac-spies-on.html

katha, Isn't there a poster on a city street you can mark up with a Sharpie, or a subway station where you can make these statements publicly.

If you have a hat you'll even make some money.

katha, Isn't there a poster on a city street you can mark up with a Sharpie, or a subway station where you can make these statements publicly.

If you have a hat you'll even make some money.
Seriously... Crazy homeless people in the subway are fun to listen to. It's not as fun to read what they say, though.

kathaksung, there are some wonderful things out there called blogs that would be far more suited to your postings than a discussion forum.

This thread started off very promisingly, at post 1, but as usual it fades away,pity

kathaksung,

You are crazier than a gut-shot Titanic fan.
Please seek professional help, sir.

Best wishes,
Sparky

Barack Obamas' speeches
http://www.obama2010.us/media/
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/convention2004/barackobama2004dnc.htm
http://www.obama2010.us/media/knox_college_2005_commencement/
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/barackobamaexploratory.htm
Is he an anarchist?

Hillary Clintons' speeches
http://www.wellesley.edu/PublicAffairs/Commencement/1969/053169hillary.html
http://cgi.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/news/9608/27/hillary.speech/hillary.shtml
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/hillaryclintonbeijingspeech.htm
http://clinton3.nara.gov/WH/EOP/First_Lady/html/generalspeeches/1997/unspeeches.html
http://www.med.harvard.edu/grad98/speech.html
I agree to the opinion that Hillary Clinton is the rival to Condoleezza Rice in many ways.

Quote, "Is Bush’s War Winding Down or Heating Up?

The Coming Attack on Iran

By Paul Craig Roberts
Many commentators believe that the failure of the neoconservatives’ “cakewalk war” has destroyed their influence. This is a mistaken conclusion. The neoconservatives are long time allies of Israel’s right-wing Likud Party and are part of the Israel Lobby in the US. The Israel Lobby represents the views of only a minority of American Jews but nevertheless essentially owns both political parties and most of the US media. As the neoconservatives are an important part of this powerful lobby, they remain extremely influential.

Neoconservatives have called for World War IV against Islam. In Commentary magazine Norman Podhoretz called for the cultural genocide of Islamic peoples. The war is already opened on four fronts: Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Iran.

Is Bush’s War Winding Down or Heating Up