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500lbguerilla
10-18-2006, 10:43 PM
Judge refuses to grant immunity to New York City and its contractors from ground zero lawsuits

NEW YORK -- The city and its contractors are not immune from lawsuits brought by emergency workers sickened after toiling amid toxic dust at ground zero, a judge ruled, clearing the way for what he said should be the speedy resolution of thousands of claims.

In his decision Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein said the city, its roughly 150 private contractors, and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey were only partially immune from lawsuits, with the precise scope and extent of the immunity varying according to date, place and activity.

"If even a minority of the plaintiffs suffered serious injuries to their respiratory tracts arising from the acrid air of September 11, their claims deserve to be heard when a recovery could make a difference in their lives," the judge wrote, adding that the defendants are entitled to resolution at the earliest possible point.

A lawyer for the plaintiffs hailed the ruling as "an important decision, a first step forward in the legal system for these other victims of 9-11." Andrew J. Carboy, who represents 210 individuals, mostly firefighters, said the number of people making claims reaches as high as 8,000.

Michael A. Cardozo, the city's top lawyer, argued a close study of the facts surrounding the claims will show an absence of any legal liabilities by the city and its contractors.

Hellerstein did dismiss claims against the Consolidated Edison Co. and companies controlled by developer Larry Silverstein, saying they did not have legal control over the area and therefore weren't liable for damages.

The judge, who called the situation a "scar to the public interest," said he will appoint a special master to help eliminate unjustified claims and to otherwise manage a case that is "likely to become unmanageable."

The city and its contractors are trying to avoid damages in lawsuits filed on behalf of workers who cleaned up the World Trade Center site for months after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

The lawsuits claimed the city and its contractors were negligent in monitoring the air and assuring appropriate safety in the workplace, particularly adequate respiratory equipment.

The judge noted that a study released in September by doctors at the Mount Sinai Medical Center showed that approximately 70 percent of the 10,000 workers who were tested reported that they suffer from new or substantially increased respiratory problems since 9/11.

"The workers at the site were presented with a dangerous environment, below and surrounding their work activities, threatening their health and safety," the judge said.

http://www3.whdh.com:80/news/articles/national/MI31098/
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Nothing like sacrificing the health and lives of rescue workers, volunteers and clean up crew just so you can open the stock market...Thank god a judge didn't have a vested interest in this.

DanF
10-19-2006, 12:38 AM
It makes just as much sense, to me, to pay these people as it did to pay the survivers of the victims millions of dollars.

Didn't I hear that we are holding millions of Ben Ladens money somewhere.
Give it to these people if we are.

WindWip
10-19-2006, 01:25 AM
Unless the city did not take appropriate action after 9-11 to clean up, then why would the city have to pay for the repercussions of a terrorist attack.

500lbguerilla
10-19-2006, 04:46 PM
They told the workers the air was perfectly safe when they knew it wasn't. They did this because they wanted the stock market open and operational as soon as possible. This is compensation for the workers whom the government intentionally put in a hazardous situation without giving adaquate protection or warning.

The Praetorian
10-19-2006, 04:56 PM
They told the workers the air was perfectly safe when they knew it wasn't. They did this because they wanted the stock market open and operational as soon as possible. This is compensation for the workers whom the government intentionally put in a hazardous situation without giving adaquate protection or warning.
I think they should try harder to sue the Federal government with this bit of newfound irrefutable proof that they were deliberately placed in harm's way.

On the other hand, I'm sure nobody wanted to get back to their jobs because bills ceased to exist for New Yorkers after 9-11...

500lbguerilla
10-19-2006, 06:24 PM
ummm...for some reason I accidentally pasted the article twice. What was suppossed to go in that second slot was this story
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350G PAYCHECK FOR CITY'S 9/11 SCROOGE
By SUSAN EDELMAN

October 15, 2006 -- The woman in charge of the $1 billion fund that's fighting claims by sickened World Trade Center rescue and recovery workers is collecting $350,000 a year plus benefits from the federal fund - a pay package that has stunned and angered advocates for the 9/11 responders.

Christine LaSala, president and CEO of the city-controlled WTC Captive Insurance Co., which is managing the 9/11 fund created by Congress, gets the entity's top salary - which has never before been publicly revealed - plus $20,000 in health benefits for herself and her family, documents obtained by The Post show.

Meanwhile, teams of lawyers hired by the fund to dispute and deny more than 5,000 claims for illnesses blamed on toxic exposure at Ground Zero earn up to $550 an hour for "senior partners," the records show. Other top lawyers working for the entity earn higher rates, sources said.

The Post has reported that Captive, a self-insurance fund set up by the city in 2004 to cover claims from the WTC cleanup, had spent more than $40 million as of four months ago on overhead and lawyers. The company has refused to pay a single ill Ground Zero responder.

LaSala, 56, a former partner at insurance brokerage Johnson & Higgins, took the helm of the captive in mid-2004.

"It's amazing that Ms. LaSala gets $20,000 for health insurance while the 9/11 heroes she's fighting often have no health coverage at all," said Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.).

"If the city wanted someone to do nothing, I'm sure they could find someone a lot cheaper than $370,000 per year," Maloney said. "This salary could have helped a lot of sick and injured workers take care of their families."

Patrick Lynch, president of the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, which keeps a registry of cops suffering respiratory illness, cancer and other diseases since working at the toxic WTC pit and Fresh Kills landfill, was taken aback.

"They're paying that kind of salary to someone overseeing a campaign where lawyers are working to deprive people of benefits for the illnesses they developed at Ground Zero," Lynch said. "9/11 responders are struggling with medical bills."

LaSala's pay exceeds by $100,000 the $250,000 salary of Schools Chancellor Joel Klein, the highest-paid city employee, who oversees a $14 billion budget, 110,000 employees and 1.1 million kids.

susan.edelman@nypost.com

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10152006/news/regionalnews/350g_paycheck_for_citys_9_11_scrooge_regionalnews_ susan_edelman.htm

Nice to know where your tax dollars are going isn't it.
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DanF
10-19-2006, 11:33 PM
ummm...for some reason I accidentally pasted the article twice. What was suppossed to go in that second slot was this story
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350G PAYCHECK FOR CITY'S 9/11 SCROOGE
By SUSAN EDELMAN

October 15, 2006 -- The woman in charge of the $1 billion fund that's fighting claims by sickened World Trade Center rescue and recovery workers is collecting $350,000 a year plus benefits from the federal fund...

Nice to know where your tax dollars are going isn't it.
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Friggin government.

Sparky2
10-20-2006, 07:48 AM
Government Bureaucracy at it's best.

I 'knew a guy' who worked on a federally-funded study of emergency first responders a few years ago. 'This guys' job was to develop a study instrument, and then go out with a team to interview/survey hundreds of police forces, sheriffs, fire departments ambulance companies, rescue squads, volunteer fire departments, hospital emergency room directors, and County Emergency Management Agencies (EMA's).

The specific technical focus, conclusions, and recommendations of this study are a matter of public record, and are also not particularly germane to the topic of this thread, so I'd rather not identify that study, or quote from the study report.

To the matter at hand though, I'd rather share with you some of 'this guys' personal observations culled from his own experiences interviewing the emergency first responders;

* The first responders all struggle for adequate funding.

* The more layers of bureaucracy there are between the Federal dollars and the agencies who actually do the work, the less money there is when it's time to pay salaries, buy radios, vehicles, uniforms, equipment, and rescue gear.

* The State and County Emergency Management Agencies (EMA's, formerly Civil Defense), all by and large do a great job of looking out for their subordinate agencies.

* The creation of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), although originally well-intentioned, has actually resulted in yet another layer of bureaucracy that, in the long run, has not benefited the State or County emergency first-responders.

It's like this; they stood up the DHS at a Federal level, with a certain budget. Each State had to stand-up a State DHS office, each with its own staff, offices, budgets, payrolls, and operational requirements. Bear in mind, right next door is the State EMA office, who in reality had the mission in the first place.

Now, there are X-amount of Federal dollars to go around to support the work of the emergency first responders down to the lowest level. But instead of those Federal dollars being apportioned down to the State EMA's to distribute to their police, fire, and emergency medical agencies, those Federal dollars are funneled thru the State DHS prior to being given to the EMA's. Since the State DHS has its own overhead, guess what?

There's actually less money to go around because there's an extra Government agency in the middle now.

How do the lowly emergency first responders survive, and get their jobs done anyway? Well, each State has their own tax-revenue sources of money of course, and of course there are always bake sales and door-to-door fundraisers.

Sad state of affairs, really. So many tax dollars going to pay middle-men and bureaucrats so they can have meetings and create PowerPoint slides to talk about the problem, and so few dollars left to help pay the folks who actually do the real hero's work.

I hate it for my friend. He seems quite saddened by it all.
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LionelHutz
10-20-2006, 11:25 AM
Sad state of affairs, really. So many tax dollars going to pay middle-men and bureaucrats so they can have meetings and create PowerPoint slides to talk about the problem, and so few dollars left to help pay the folks who actually do the real hero's work.

Meanwhile the feds get credit because they're distributing more money than ever to the local governments to protect us. And the locals get blamed because they're always raising taxes.