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sedan
10-15-2006, 09:05 PM
The Times October 12, 2006

200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth
By Lewis Smith

Light pollution would be the first to go, followed by fields, buildings and cities
IF MAN were to vanish from the face of the Earth today, his footprint on the planet would linger for the mere blink of an eye in geological terms.

Within hours, nature would begin to eradicate its impact. In 50,000 years all that would remain would be archaeological traces. Only radioactive materials and a few man-made chemical contaminants would last longer — an invisible legacy.

Homo sapiens has managed just 150,000 years on Earth, and his earliest — debatable — ancestor only six million. By contrast, the dinosaurs populated the planet for 165 million years.

Man’s environmental footprint would, according to a report in New Scientist, begin to deteriorate almost immediately, with light pollution the first to go as power stations ceased to provide energy.

By tomorrow, street lights and house lights left on by their former occupants would start to go out.

Streets and cultivated fields would be the next to go. Within 20 years village streets and rural roads would have vanished under a matting of weeds; fields would be overgrown within months. Urban streets would take a little longer, but even in huge man-made sprawls, such as London and Birmingham, plants would have taken over in about 50 years.

Buildings would decay rapidly. Wooden structures would collapse first, assaulted by bugs and grubs. All such homes would be gone in a century.

Glass and steel tower blocks that create city skylines would mostly fall down within 200 years. Brick, stone and concrete structures would last longer. With exceptions — the pyramids are already 3,000 years old — by the next millennium there would be little more left than ruins.

“If tomorrow dawns without humans, even from orbit the change will be evident almost immediately,” Bob Holmes, of New Scientist, said. “With no-one to make repairs, every storm, flood and frosty night gnaws away at abandoned buildings and within a few decades roofs will begin to fall in and buildings collapse.”

Ronald Chesser, of Texas Tech University, said: “The most pervasive thing you see are plants whose root systems get into the concrete and behind the bricks and into door frames and so forth and are rapidly breaking up the structure.”

Wildlife would thrive in the absence of Man. Most of the 15,589 threatened species will begin to recover immediately towards historical populations.

Carbon dioxide emissions wouldcontinue to cause climate change for another 100 years, but after 1,000 years all would be back to pre-industrial levels, with all man-made traces vanishing in 20,000 years.

However, the most radioactive of untreated nuclear waste would not be safe for up to two million years, John Large, an independent nuclear consultant, said. Man-made chemicals, especially perfluorinated types, would not break down for up to 200,000 years, although it is thought that they would have been buried long before then.

If, 50,000 years hence, an alien archaeologist were to land on an Earth without Man, it might be quite frustrated by the paucity of evidence that we were here at all.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2399972,00.html


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es347fan
10-15-2006, 09:08 PM
Turn the page.

~Sal~
10-15-2006, 09:30 PM
Wow!

Dunkirk101
10-16-2006, 01:48 AM
Good Read sedan..Thanks! :cool:

Dantheman
10-17-2006, 12:07 PM
Such information has led some to believe that millions of years ago the earth was inhabited by an intelligent species. That time has erased all evidence of them.

~Sal~
10-17-2006, 12:50 PM
Such information has led some to believe that millions of years ago the earth was inhabited by an intelligent species. That time has erased all evidence of them.
Okay there's my adrenaline rush for the day you brat...hmmm...Dantheman...new poster...interesting post...what?????/ how the hell did he get that number of posts in just a day ...5.... :lolhit: guess ya lose them every time you change your name...

Oldtimer
10-17-2006, 09:59 PM
Good one :)

DanF
10-19-2006, 12:50 AM
Okay there's my adrenaline rush for the day you brat...hmmm...Dantheman...new poster...interesting post...what?????/ how the hell did he get that number of posts in just a day ...5.... :lolhit: guess ya lose them every time you change your name...
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I'm back Sal, you can quit beating me on the head now. :thumbs:

~Sal~
10-20-2006, 06:24 PM
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I'm back Sal, you can quit beating me on the head now. :thumbs:

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel...oops..........heeeeeeal. .. hope you be better now...:woohoo: ;) Don't change your name more than once a month okay? :D

Evakian
10-20-2006, 06:38 PM
What an article! I'll get right on to exterminating our species ASAP.

Sparky2
10-21-2006, 04:11 AM
Yikes, who thinks like this guy Lewis Smith?
In his grim fantasy, what actually happens to all the people?
(Do we all drop instantly dead from some mega-virus or bio weapon?)

Seems like only a tree-hugging apologist would entertain such notions.
(Or maybe I'm reading too much into this.)

sedan
10-21-2006, 10:29 AM
Occasionally I will think along these lines. For example, when driving down a concrete highway in the summertime you can sometimes see a thin streak of green grass seperating two lanes. This grass is tough. It gets run over thousands of times per day and can never grow more than a millimeter above the level of the concrete. Yet still it persists year after year. It makes me wonder how long it would take for the grass to consume the highway if there were no cars to keep it in check. Certainly it would take a very long time but I've no doubt that eventually the grass would win.

Oh well. You have to think about something when you're driving down the road!

~Sal~
10-21-2006, 03:04 PM
Certainly it would take a very long time but I've no doubt that eventually the grass would win.

Oh well. You have to think about something when you're driving down the road!
Actually, I've wondered the same thing when I see road crews out chopping down weeds that grow on large medians between highways. Here in Canada, I don't think it would take all the long for a highway to be reclaimed by nature. Really deep ground frost can quickly cause asphalt to buckle and weeds spring up fast between those cracks.
Bottom line is, we only think we own the land, we borrow it and then it reclaims us.

DanF
10-22-2006, 12:00 PM
[QUOTE=~Sal~... we only think we own the land, we borrow it...[/QUOTE]
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We rent land from the government in the form of property taxes. In order for nature to reclaim the land it would have to pay all outstanding taxes. :thumbs:

~Sal~
10-22-2006, 04:43 PM
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We rent land from the government in the form of property taxes. In order for nature to reclaim the land it would have to pay all outstanding taxes. :thumbs:
Yeah, I just doubt it would be "of a mind" to co-operate. ;)

Imagineer
10-23-2006, 03:54 AM
Occasionally I will think along these lines. For example, when driving down a concrete highway in the summertime you can sometimes see a thin streak of green grass seperating two lanes. This grass is tough. It gets run over thousands of times per day and can never grow more than a millimeter above the level of the concrete. Yet still it persists year after year. It makes me wonder how long it would take for the grass to consume the highway if there were no cars to keep it in check. Certainly it would take a very long time but I've no doubt that eventually the grass would win.

Oh well. You have to think about something when you're driving down the road!

What is amazing is how fast nature reclaims devestated areas. Look at recent pictures of Mt. St. Helens, and compare them to the devestation of a couple decades ago. Look at how quickly the lava flows in the Hawaiian Islands are colonized by plants after the ground cools. Nature reacts quickly to any any area not filled with life. Bare rock is broken down into soil by the earliest colonizers. Larger plants move in quickly. The highways would rapidly be broken and plants would start growing through the pavement. That would accelerate the degradation. I would guess that without people using and repairing the roads, they would last only a few decades as anything recognizable to the average person.

es347fan
10-23-2006, 06:28 AM
Mt. St. Helens is a fine example. I have clear memories of that event, and remember being in complete awe of the devistation - and yet within a very short time there was new growth everywhere.

LionelHutz
10-23-2006, 11:22 AM
Mt. St. Helens is a fine example. I have clear memories of that event,

Me too - I remember my relatives from Portland being pissed that they had decided to visit Wisconsin that week.

and remember being in complete awe of the devistation - and yet within a very short time there was new growth everywhere.

I was able to visit the mountain two years later. Everything was still gray with ash. We saw a car wrapped around a tree. Pretty incredible.

es347fan
10-23-2006, 11:31 AM
I was on my way to an assignment in Germany within weeks of Mt. St. Helens blowing its' top. Everything I've seen of it has been either on the tube or in a few books.

Zer0k
11-06-2006, 10:59 PM
one thing i dont believe in that article is that the "endangered" animals will begin to no longer be endangered...i still think that they will be going towards extinction. Unless those species readapt immediatly... really..are thousands of praying mantis just going to pop up when all the humans leave/die/dissapear. Its completely unrealistic to say that us not being here will turn them from extinction... everything else seems very logical...but really...are all the humans in the world going to disspear/die in the next couple days....only if WW3/4/5 start

Brooks
11-07-2006, 10:26 PM
Reminds me of some lyrics from a Talking Heads song.

(Nothing But) Flowers

Cars have run on gasoline
Where, where have they gone?
Now, it's nothing but flowers

There was a factory
Now there are mountains and rivers
you got it, you got it

There was a shopping mall
Now it's all covered with flowers
you've got it, you've got it

If this is paradise
I wish I had a lawnmower
you've got it, you've got it

Standing tall
By the side of the road
I fell in love
With a beautiful highway
This used to be real estate
Now it's only fields and trees
Where, where is the town
Now, it's nothing but flowers

Once there were parking lots
Now it's a peaceful oasis
you got it, you got it

This was a Pizza Hut
Now it's all covered with daisies
you got it, you got it

I miss the honky tonks,
Dairy Queens, and 7-Elevens
you got it, you got it

And as things fell apart
Nobody paid much attention
you got it, you got it

I dream of cherry pies,
Candy bars, and chocolate chip cookies
you got it, you got it

This was a discount store,
Now it's turned into a cornfield
you got it, you got it

Don't leave me stranded here
I can't get used to this lifestyle

DefectiveMachin
11-25-2006, 05:12 PM
200,000 years for all trace of man to vanish from the earth
this is modest estimate
written by man

the machines will be more ambitious
and efficient
as you are soon to discover

DrewM
11-28-2006, 02:45 AM
Presents a strong argument that we should spray roundup on the whole planet from space as it seems that the plants would do the most damage to our legacy.

Its comforting to know that in 200,000 years the place would at last begin to look like parts of New Orleans.

paulc
12-11-2006, 10:42 PM
That bad eh.
I dont think any one species has been dominent longer than the dinos, we wont be any different.

suncrafter
12-25-2006, 02:04 PM
Now I'm a little depressed for some reason.

paulc
12-25-2006, 02:20 PM
Irishman, 200,000 years from now.

Frogger
12-25-2006, 07:01 PM
200,000 years for all traces of man to disappear doesn't seem so bad when you consider Homo sapiens has been around for only about 130,000 years.

Master Shake
01-15-2007, 08:32 AM
We have traces of the Dinosaurs, and they are 165 million years gone.

mikezila
01-15-2007, 08:36 AM
We have traces of the Dinosaurs, and they are 165 million years gone.
65 million years...and they didn't build dams.

Travh20
01-16-2007, 02:00 PM
there would be fossils of man as there are fossils of dinosaurs. This article is dumb. It says in 200,000 years all traces of man will be gone but in the article it says radioactive of untreated nuclear waste would not be safe for up to two million years. so it should say all traces of man gone in two million years.