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sedan
10-15-2006, 04:59 PM
Tibetan Shot By Chinese Soldier
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ssCVRhOfjtA
sedan
10-15-2006, 05:08 PM
China calls border shooting self-defence
Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:26 PM BST253
BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese troops fired on about 70 people near the country's mountain frontier with Nepal, and one of them died, Chinese state media said on Thursday, partly confirming earlier reports but defending the shooting.
The official Xinhua news agency said the people were attempting to cross illegally from Tibet into Nepal on September 30 when a squad of Chinese border guards discovered them.
The troops tried to persuade the people to return home, but they "refused and attacked the soldiers", the report said.
"The frontier soldiers were forced to defend themselves and injured two," the report said, citing an unnamed Chinese official.
One of the injured died later in hospital "due to oxygen shortage", the report said. Another was in hospital. Xinhua did not say whether the civilians carried guns or other weapons.
This first official Chinese confirmation of the border incident appeared hours after a Foreign Ministry spokesman said he could not verify foreign news reports of a border incident in the Himalayas.
"I've seen the reports about this, but I've no knowledge of the specific situation," ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao told a news conference in Beijing.
Three climbers from Britain and Australia told Reuters on Tuesday that on September 30 they watched Chinese border guards aim their guns at a group of about 20 or 30 people as they prepared to cross an icy pass from Chinese territory into Nepal.
Overseas Tibetan refugee groups, as well as the London-based International Campaign for Tibet, said a young Tibetan nun was killed in the incident, and a young boy may also have died.
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?storyid=2006-10-12T142530Z_01_SP152489_RTRUKOC_0_UK-CHINA-TIBET.xml&type=worldNews&WTmodLoc=World-C3-More-5
The Praetorian
10-16-2006, 11:13 AM
Wow.
That's really terrible. The Tibetans have been harassed by China ever since China went red, and what makes this really tragic is the fact that these people aren't exploiting or using China in any other way than to see the Dalai Lama.
On the other hand, in our country, we have people crossing over illegally to use us, exploit us, and take advantage of our system, and what do we do about it? Nothing.
Maybe we should start employing the Chinese border guards here....
On the other hand, in our country, we have people crossing over illegally to use us, exploit us, and take advantage of our system, and what do we do about it? Nothing.
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William Frey, a demographer at the Brookins Institution, a Washington think tank said:
"The 300 millionth American-born months ago or on Tuesday-is probably Hispanic because they are the fastest growing demographic group in the U.S."
paulc
10-18-2006, 08:18 AM
Seen a show on CNN yesterday about immigration.
The film crew went to a town called Dalton Georgia.I never heard of this place before yesterday,looked nice,clean,tidy,what I would inagine a typical Southern town would look like.
Anyway,they interviewed an old woman sitting on her porch,white,said her family lived there for generations,her house was in a row of 14,only herself and her neighbour were the last 2 non hispanic in the block,she couldnt and said she wouldnt speak Spanish to her neighbours,so her and her old neighbour kept themselves to themselves,as their kids had grown up and moved out West.Her Hispanic neighbours never spoke English.
So the film crew moved on into town,most of the shops had been bought by these new immigrants,all their signs were in Spanish,'I noticed they werent in English also'some of the shopkeepers were interviewed by CNN,and some couldnt even talk English,as they used an interpreter.
40% of Dalton Georgia is now Hispanic.
60% of school kids in Dalton Georgia are now Hispanic.
On a plus side 'maybe',theres a big carpet factory in Dalton, Swift Carpets,I think u called it.The owner,an elderly American,said he was glad of these immigrants,as it was the only way his business could expand,as local American kids didnt want the jobs he had to offer.Im sure this same scenario happens up and down America,so is 'white AMERICA' having to give up ground and culture,to expand in the business world.The word 'illegal' was never mentioned during the show.
The Praetorian
10-18-2006, 11:33 AM
I feel sick.
I went back, for a visit, to the town in South Georgia that I was born and went to school; a town about 60 miles above the Florida line.
I hardly recognized the place, the first thing I noticed was that Mexicans were everywhere.
The whites and blacks appeared to be a minority.
ES, how is it up in Atlanta?
es347fan
10-18-2006, 03:08 PM
Where I reside (south of Atlanta) there are plenty of hispanics. Since moving from south TX, I've been really surprised at just how many are here.
The Praetorian
10-18-2006, 03:32 PM
Mexicans are everywhere - they're like a virus. Chicago's southwest side is almost entirely Hispanic. There are areas in Cicero where I see more Mexican flags than I do American...the fuckers...
Vilepagan
10-18-2006, 05:37 PM
Mexicans are everywhere - they're like a virus. Chicago's southwest side is almost entirely Hispanic. There are areas in Cicero where I see more Mexican flags than I do American...the fuckers...
Now you know how the native Americans felt about those ancestors of yours on the Mayflower.
paulc
10-18-2006, 05:58 PM
Yes,I think its time for us to introduce visa's for you guys,I feel a rush coming on.
The Praetorian
10-18-2006, 06:17 PM
Now you know how the native Americans felt about those ancestors of yours on the Mayflower.
You're right - I do. Come to think of it, I have more respect for the Indians; at least they fought to keep it. We're giving it away.
paulc
10-18-2006, 06:22 PM
Is it fair to say that the Mexican immigrant community is the only one to ever enter the US in large numbers,and refuse to intergrate into American Society.
The Praetorian
10-18-2006, 06:31 PM
Absolutely, it is.
Not only do they NOT want to assimilate, they want to turn our nation into a giant shit hole (read; Mexico). Actually, thinking about it makes me wanna puke my guts out.
It's so bad here that occasionally I feel a hate-crime coming on, and to be honest, I really don't like that feeling....it's one of utter helplessness, disgust, resentment, and racism.
paulc
10-18-2006, 06:33 PM
Hm,I think I remember u telling us there were about 30 employees in your place,so come on,how many hispanic.
The Praetorian
10-18-2006, 06:36 PM
Hm,I think I remember u telling us there were about 30 employees in your place,so come on,how many hispanic.
3.
We used to have more, but then they got the clever idea to leave May 1st without giving us notice, and subsequently, I fired them.
Vilepagan
10-18-2006, 06:36 PM
Is it fair to say that the Mexican immigrant community is the only one to ever enter the US in large numbers,and refuse to intergrate into American Society.
I think it's fair to say that it is perceived that way by some, but that feeling isn't new, it's been levied against every group that has come to this country at one time or another including the Irish. The hispanic immigrants are assimilating in many ways, just not fast enough for some.
Vilepagan
10-18-2006, 06:39 PM
Absolutely, it is.
Not only do they NOT want to assimilate, they want to turn our nation into a giant shit hole (read; Mexico).
What could possibly make you believe that?
Actually, thinking about it makes me wanna puke my guts out.
*hands Prae a bucket*
It's so bad here that occasionally I feel a hate-crime coming on, and to be honest, I really don't like that feeling....it's one of utter helplessness, disgust, resentment, and racism.
You shouldn't like that feeling, but can you tell me what is "so bad" that you feel physically ill?
paulc
10-18-2006, 06:43 PM
I think it's fair to say that it is perceived that way by some, but that feeling isn't new, it's been levied against every group that has come to this country at one time or another including the Irish. The hispanic immigrants are assimilating in many ways, just not fast enough for some.
Yes I know 'not sure exactly when' that at one stage there was a lot of anti Irishness towards new immigrants,but Ive always thought the Irish,like every other European race,had in someway forced their way into being part and parcel of American Society,I dont see this with the majority of Mexicans.
The Praetorian
10-18-2006, 06:44 PM
Yes I know 'not sure exactly when' that at one stage there was a lot of anti Irishness towards new immigrants,but Ive always thought the Irish,like every other European race,had in someway forced their way into being part and parcel of American Society,I dont see this with the majority of Mexicans.
Bingo.
Vilepagan
10-18-2006, 06:57 PM
Like I said, it's just not happening fast enough for some.
The Praetorian
10-18-2006, 07:18 PM
I don't understand how you can think it's happening period.
The Praetorian
10-19-2006, 10:58 AM
What could possibly make you believe that?
Look around you, Vile.
You're very bright, and given the circumstances, I simply don't understand the societal disconnect in which you've obviously undergone while viewing this problem through an academic microscope. These people don't want to build this nation; they're here to exploit it, PERIOD. If they're so "proud" to be in America, then perhaps you can what explain why they've chosen to fly Mexican flags over ours. This isn't an issue of them being able to fly those flags on our soil; it's an issue of why they've chosen to do it in the first place. What are they trying to say? If they're so "proud" of where they're from, then they should leave. If you consider Mexico your "real" home, then get the fuck out of ours! If all we are to them is a paycheck, then I don't want them here, and neither would Theodore Roosevelt:
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin (provided they're here legally). But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
Evakian
10-19-2006, 07:27 PM
I don't understand how you can think it's happening period.
With time, it will come, though perhaps painfully.
On Mexican indepence day at school, the Latino group of kids at school decided to wave a Mexican flag around during a school pep rally. Being that this is in Texas, they were summarily criticized and the American crowd, who began shouting 'USA' repeatedly. Madness!
And at my place of work, we get a lot of ethnic people from all over passing in and out of the doors. Arabian, Indian, Mexican, German, even Russian. They all speak their native tongues to each other, but I am offered a glimmer of hope knowing that they all have learned or are learning English, to survive. We may accomodate Spanish speakers better than 50 or even 30 years ago now in this modern age, but they will have to assimilate, one way or another. The thing to worry about is not the cultural habits of those arrived in America, as we are a melting pot, not a homogeneous society. What should be on our minds is the legality of their presence, as well as the status of our open borders.
Socialist
10-19-2006, 11:10 PM
For those who complain about an invasion, and jobs taken away from the European invaders of this country that belongs to the (wrongly called) Indians. In my place of work, I am the only one out of about 800, so what percentage is that?, oh!, and there is a guy from England (another foreigner, or just another US guy from the 51st US state, an overseas state, just like Hawaii is)...
More competition for the illegals.
The U.S. is offering to permanently resettle up to 10,000 refugees from the African country of Burundi.
"The refugees would be brought to the U.S. over the next two years with refugee status, and will be given the option of applying for U.S. citizenship," said State Department spoksman Tom Casey.
These people are mostly illiterate and unskilled. More numbers for the welfare rolls?
paulc
10-20-2006, 10:26 AM
Why is that.
The Praetorian
10-20-2006, 10:44 AM
For those who complain about an invasion, and jobs taken away from the European invaders of this country that belongs to the (wrongly called) Indians.
"Wrongly called Indians"??? Who cares what they were called - they were a group of slovenly, backwards, barefoot natives who didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground.
Don't you understand that without the European "invaders" there would be NO FUCKING JOBS TO TAKE!? And if (notice how I underlined it) there were jobs to take, who'd want 'em???
There are no two ways of getting around this one, Enrique; we built this country; our ideas; our planning, and our industry. Whether or not you care to realize it is of little consequence in the big scheme of things - the fact of the matter remains; we (the invaders) built America, and now we (the invaders) are giving it to you to destroy.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
paulc
10-20-2006, 12:04 PM
Extremely white of you Prae.I think they need to find Atlantis soon,our youll be homeless.
Why is that.
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They will automatically be enrolled. Housing, money, food, and medical.
paulc
10-20-2006, 02:29 PM
Dan,I meant why Burundi,is it associated with the US in anyway,like say Puerto Rico.
Dan,I meant why Burundi,is it associated with the US in anyway,like say Puerto Rico.
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Not that I am aware of. I really have no idea why.