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es347fan
10-09-2006, 11:44 PM
Anchorage, Alaska (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/09/alaska.oil.chavez.ap/index.html)~ In Alaska's native villages, the punishing winter cold is already penetrating the walls of the lightly insulated plywood homes, many of the villagers are desperately poor, and heating-oil prices are among the highest in the nation.And yet a few of the small communities want to refuse free heating oil from Venezuela, on the patriotic principle that no foreigner has the right to call their president "the devil."
The heating oil is being offered by the petroleum company controlled by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, President Bush's nemesis. While scores of Alaska's Eskimo and Indian villages say they have no choice but to accept, others would rather suffer.
"As a citizen of this country, you can have your own opinion of our president and our country. But I don't want a foreigner coming in here and bashing us," said Justine Gunderson, administrator for the tribal council in the Aleut village of Nelson Lagoon. "Even though we're in economically dire straits, it was the right choice to make."
Nelson Lagoon residents pay more than $5 a gallon for oil -- or at least $300 a month per household -- to heat their homes along the wind-swept coast of the Bering Sea, where temperatures can dip to minus-15. About one-quarter of the 70 villagers are looking for work, in part because Alaska's salmon fishing industry has been hit hard by competition from fish farms. (... (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/09/alaska.oil.chavez.ap/index.html))
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"As a citizen of this country, you can have your own opinion of our president and our country. But I don't want a foreigner coming in here and bashing us," said Justine Gunderson, administrator for the tribal council in the Aleut village of Nelson Lagoon.
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Spoken like a true American.
If they can make it down here it is much warmer in Florida, might cost $300 month to cool their house in the summer though.
lots of ndns and inuit are just as patriotically brainwashed as any other american.
or just stoopit.
lots of ndns and inuit are just as patriotically brainwashed as any other american.
or just stoopit.
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Yes, and some people just want something for nothing, at any price.
~Sal~
10-10-2006, 08:56 AM
Yeah well now would be the time for some smart American oil company to swallow a little of their monstrously high profit and respond to those patriotic people and prove their own worth as fellow human beings and AMERICANS. So we will see if placing one's self into a situation of possibly freezing is the patriotic thing to do or not.
The Praetorian
10-10-2006, 10:23 AM
Yeah well now would be the time for some smart American oil company to swallow a little of their monstrously high profit and respond to those patriotic people and prove their own worth as fellow human beings and AMERICANS. So we will see if placing one's self into a situation of possibly freezing is the patriotic thing to do or not.
That's a good point, Sal.
500lbguerilla
10-10-2006, 04:03 PM
Yeah well now would be the time for some smart American oil company to swallow a little of their monstrously high profit and respond to those patriotic people and prove their own worth as fellow human beings and AMERICANS. So we will see if placing one's self into a situation of possibly freezing is the patriotic thing to do or not.heh...yeah good luck with that.
At least these people have some conviction. To bad they are so brainwashed that they can't see the difference between criticizing Bush and criticizing America or the people.
I'm sure Chavez is real broken up about having to sell the oil at full price...
sedan
10-10-2006, 06:34 PM
heh...yeah good luck with that.I'm willing to bet that they do have luck with this. The PR opportunity is going to be hard to pass up for someone out there.At least these people have some conviction. To bad they are so brainwashed that they can't see the difference between criticizing Bush and criticizing America or the people.We don't know that they're brainwashed. For all we know some of them may be as anti-Bush as Charles Rangel. They may just have an "I can call my sister a whore but you can't" kind of attitude.
500lbguerilla
10-10-2006, 06:39 PM
They may just have an "I can call my sister a whore but you can't" kind of attitude.exactly its based on a reactionary attitude filled with emotions rather then facts. A 'free speech' only for Americans arguement.
I'm willing to bet that they do have luck with this. The PR opportunity is going to be hard to pass up for someone out there.I meant more in the 'hope you don't freeze to death in your shitty ill equiped house' sense. Why are there houses with sub-standard insulation in Alaska?
LionelHutz
10-10-2006, 09:30 PM
exactly its based on a reactionary attitude filled with emotions rather then facts. A 'free speech' only for Americans arguement.
Why is free-speech only a one-way street? They didn't say Chavez couldn't say what he wanted to. Rather they're exercising their free-speech rights by telling Chavez to f*@# himself.
Where did people get the impression that free speech means that you can say whatever you want without receiving any criticism in return?
Socialist
10-11-2006, 03:07 PM
No foreigner has the right to call their president "the devil."
Well, he does call everyone else he doesn't like whatever he pleases. Now, it isn't that he came to the US, he came to the United Nations, if anyone doesn't like that building to be in New York ask that it be removed from here, besides there is another one in Switzerland. I'd be more than glad if the United Nations find another place.
es347fan
10-11-2006, 03:29 PM
I'd be more than glad if the United Nations find another place.
Maybe you can be the point person and help them find a good spot. Perhaps Siberia's desolation would encourage delegates to get down to business rather than merely flapping their collective jaws and saying nothing.
500lbguerilla
10-11-2006, 06:27 PM
Why is free-speech only a one-way street? They didn't say Chavez couldn't say what he wanted to. Rather they're exercising their free-speech rights by telling Chavez to f*@# himself.
Where did people get the impression that free speech means that you can say whatever you want without receiving any criticism in return?
Yes because I demanded that they shut up and stop talking to the media...
Since when am I not allowed to call them stupid for doing such?
Since when did you become so filled with bullshit arguments lionel. You used to make sense.
LionelHutz
10-11-2006, 09:28 PM
Yes because I demanded that they shut up and stop talking to the media...
I have no idea what that's referring to.
Since when am I not allowed to call them stupid for doing such?
Who said you weren't?
Since when did you become so filled with bullshit arguments lionel. You used to make sense.
You said they were making a "free speech is for Americans only" argument and I pointed out that they said no such thing. What part of that is bullshit?
Freethinker
10-11-2006, 10:08 PM
Keep your oil............a few of the small communities (in Alaska) want to refuse free heating oil from Venezuela, on the patriotic principle that no foreigner has the right to call their president "the devil." ..........."Even though we're in economically dire straits, it was the right choice to make."
I have no problem with them doing it.
Any who freeze to death will be prime examples of natural selection in action.