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es347fan
09-07-2006, 09:49 PM
Al Qaeda in Iraq followers told to kill 'at least one American'

The leader of al Qaeda (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/09/07/iraq.main/index.html) in Iraq urged his followers to kill at least one American in the next two weeks using a sniper rifle, explosive or "whatever the battle may require," according to an audiotape that aired Thursday on Al-Jazeera.
The Arabic news network identified the man on the tape as Abu Hamza al-Muhajer, however CNN was unable to independently verify his identity.
Al-Muhajer took command of the terror network's partner group in Iraq after an American airstrike killed its former leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, in June, U.S. officials say.
Al-Muhajer, which means "the immigrant," is the pseudonym adopted by Abu Ayyub al-Masri, an Egyptian militant believed to be an expert at making car bombs, U.S. officials say.

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What would be the effect of coating all munituons with essence of swine and publicizing the decision? How are the potential martyrs going to react when upon catching a bullet they're at the same time sharing a pig? Would that render them "unclean" and thereby deny the dead barbarian entry into the hereafter? Would that get their attention?

Freethinker
09-07-2006, 11:27 PM
What would be the effect of coating all munitions with essence of swine and publicizing the decision?

I don't know what the effect of 'essence of swine' coated bullets would be.

But if they want to tap into the world's largest known reserve of *essence of swine*, I would direct them to the Bush White House.

Decka
09-08-2006, 01:10 AM
come on FT.. im BEGGING you to Badmouth the Al Queda terrorists.. i mean.. they have ORDERS to KILL people... come on.. say its wrong.. i dare you..

and geez how did we get from Al Queda to Bush? Oh yea.. FT replied... i think you have an obsession my friend.

ivan
09-08-2006, 07:09 AM
this essense of swine is an old old idea. too old in fact.

if america thinks it can stop the "terrorists" they are fooling themselves. the middle east has been occupied by so many outsiders, or monetarily influnced by the outside, and have pissed off so many that this is impossible to stop. it can only be stopped by all non-middle easterners to get out, and all money backing removed no matter who is coughing it up.

at least then and only then maybe america can stop worrying about being attacked here. but you won't know until you try.

Frogger
09-08-2006, 07:35 AM
and all money backing removed no matter who is coughing it up.

Sounds good to me. We should stop all aid to any country with a Muslim majority. In countries without Muslim majorities we should insist that any aid we give not trickle down to Muslim citizens. We should stop all military aid to Egypt and all humanitarian aid to other Muslim countries. We should not have intervened in Serbia to protect Muslim lives.

The West should disengage itself from the Muslim world and allow them to continue to live as they did centuries ago.

Be careful what you wish for, Ivan. You might just get it.

ivan
09-08-2006, 07:54 AM
and remove all aid to isreal too. matter of fact all aid from any country. i'm tired of my taxes being used for bullshit protection racket. now if only they would do it, and all countries stop aiding other countries outside of their own. just have TRADE. if some asshole takes over the country (and it is the fault of the people for that one) stop trade with them.

Frogger
09-08-2006, 09:52 AM
and remove all aid to isreal too. matter of fact all aid from any country.




Noooooo! Israelis aren't trying to kill us. Israelis did not fly planes into the World Trade Center. Israelis are not beheadding people.

I agree with you that we should end all aid of any kind to Muslim countries. Let the Sunnni kill the Shia and vice versa. Let them stone homosexuals and kill women who are raped. Let them do all the backward things they are known for. I say we should wash our hands of the Islamic world. Ignore them unless they are a threat to us and if that happens, wipe them off the face of the earth. I am sick and tired of the bullshit that it is our fault they are such pieces of shit.

Lungdop Philing
09-08-2006, 02:33 PM
IIRC -- in reference to the soldiers (marines?) on trial for killing the Iraqui and then making the scene look like he was planting an IED ...

it's my understanding the accused soldiers tesified under oath that their commanders told them to kill every military-age Iraqui male, with extreme predjudice and no exceptions?

How is this different than the topic of this thread?

The Praetorian
09-08-2006, 03:21 PM
Noooooo! Israelis aren't trying to kill us. Israelis did not fly planes into the World Trade Center. Israelis are not beheadding people.

I agree with you that we should end all aid of any kind to Muslim countries. Let the Sunnni kill the Shia and vice versa. Let them stone homosexuals and kill women who are raped. Let them do all the backward things they are known for. I say we should wash our hands of the Islamic world. Ignore them unless they are a threat to us and if that happens, wipe them off the face of the earth. I am sick and tired of the bullshit that it is our fault they are such pieces of shit.
Exactly. Well put, Frogger. That last sentence was a beaut.

Evakian
09-08-2006, 03:40 PM
The West should disengage itself from the Muslim world and allow them to continue to live as they did centuries ago.
Yes, because they are not human beings, and deserve none of our time, attention, and have no need for civil liberties that we products of Western Liberalism enjoy.

Those stoned homosexuals, raped women, and children being raised with hate are best ignored, because the countries they live in are "pieces of ****."

~Sal~
09-08-2006, 06:12 PM
Yes, because they are not human beings, and deserve none of our time, attention, and have no need for civil liberties that we products of Western Liberalism enjoy.

Those stoned homosexuals, raped women, and children being raised with hate are best ignored, because the countries they live in are "pieces of ****."

But Evakian, that is the problem with narrow thinking from the left as well.

There are many many, women under the influence of these terrorists who would gladly slit their throats and not look back... But hey as the left see it, screw the women and children that Hezbollah have brain washed... It's the West that is the problem. Let them live like slaves, raped, stoned to death or burned by their families. Can't drive, can't show their hair, can't even work any longer in some of these countries. Can you imagine having a PHD and being told by some swine with an IQ of 98 that you may no longer work because you are a second class citizen? You are a woman.

No health care for women because a man may not look at their bodies and women may not work.

Makes me sick!

Darth Be'lal
09-09-2006, 08:11 PM
I agree with you that we should end all aid of any kind to Muslim countries. Let the Sunnni kill the Shia and vice versa. Let them stone homosexuals and kill women who are raped. Let them do all the backward things they are known for. I say we should wash our hands of the Islamic world. Ignore them unless they are a threat to us and if that happens, wipe them off the face of the earth. I am sick and tired of the bullshit that it is our fault they are such pieces of shit.

Good point. Dammit.

Frogger
09-09-2006, 11:37 PM
evakian, my post was in response to this by ivan:

if america thinks it can stop the "terrorists" they are fooling themselves. the middle east has been occupied by so many outsiders, or monetarily influnced by the outside, and have pissed off so many that this is impossible to stop. it can only be stopped by all non-middle easterners to get out, and all money backing removed no matter who is coughing it up.



I happen to agree with ivan. I think we should totally disengage ourselves from Muslim countries. Let them make their own decisions and let them pay for them. Let them protect themselves rather than relying on the West to protect them against the Serbians. Let them feed their own people. Let them run their own oil wells without Western expertise.

Once they see what a completely backward people they are they will be begging the West to help them.

Decka
09-10-2006, 12:42 AM
hmmmm thats interesting.. i kinda dig that...

not just pulling troops out and still doing the dumb shit we normally do and have been doing since the 80's.. but just COMPLETE isolation.. it would definitely make it easier, and wash our hands of any wrong over there.

The only thing is.. how would you know if a new terrorist organization gets a hand on a nuke? What if they USE the nuke? even if its NOT on our soil.. i dont want to see thousands or millions die because Havin Bin Laid gained power while we were isolationists and got a free pass to jerking off religiously by killing millions of innocent people. I think we would have to take a hard look at ourselves in the mirror if that were to happen...

that is WHY the world needs someone to prevent that from happening.. maybe China should take a shift of watching over the middle east.. let us go on break LOL

Evakian
09-10-2006, 07:15 AM
I think we should totally disengage ourselves from Muslim countries.
Our influence would be more helpful to a "backwards people" than harmful, and of course there is our dependency on oil.
Once they see what a completely backward people they are they will be begging the West to help them.
How do you know they will acknowledge being backward, and what would cause them to think that?

My problem with that post Frogger is that you made a racist comment, and then you say we should abandon relations with Muslim countries. The world needs America.

ivan
09-10-2006, 07:49 AM
no one get the wrong idea because of others response to my post.

backwards? in the past it was islamic countries, science, etc., that brought europe out of the dark ages. keep that in mind.

you can trace middle eastern problems to the past history of non-middle eastern occupation, money, etc.. they are reacting to this. and if the only way they can get attention is by blowing people up etc., then they get it. they only attacked america because of america's corporate involvement through the oil industry, and monetary aid to isreal. if isreal did not have backing from america, and so much aid that is used for military purposes , then isreal would have to LISTEN, instead of dictate.
even the bible tells isreal to deal with the original inhabitants of isreal with kindness.

not all middle eastern countries are the same. there is a big difference between egypt and iran. or syria and afghanistan. but i do believe the middle east is best solved by the middle east.

American
09-10-2006, 01:27 PM
We need to develope an Americanization Kool-Aid. Just one sip and BAM Yankee Doodle Dandy!

ivan
09-10-2006, 02:01 PM
it is called coca-colonalism by the french.

wal-shit, kentucky fried shit, mcshit, etc..

Frogger
09-10-2006, 02:26 PM
backwards? in the past it was islamic countries, science, etc., that brought europe out of the dark ages. keep that in mind.

Yeah, and that involvement in the sciences ended about the time Columbus landed in Cuba. The Islamic world is still living in the later Middle Ages.

Watcher
09-10-2006, 04:02 PM
I am greatly concerned about this very subject. In the fifth chapter of the Karan, the Muslims are told "not to make a friend of a Christian or a Jew." I don't think Americans take this as seriously as they should.

There are many who say that not all Muslims are killers, but all Muslims are believers and when a religion teaches seperation between religions, no good can come of it ... in my opinion.

By the same token, American is seen as a "Christian" nation. Many who are not Christians are still painted with the same brush and therefore are equal targets in the minds of the radical Muslims.

We need to be afraid - very afraid. We should have sealed our boarders five years ago.

Decka
09-10-2006, 05:14 PM
I am greatly concerned about this very subject. In the fifth chapter of the Karan, the Muslims are told "not to make a friend of a Christian or a Jew." I don't think Americans take this as seriously as they should.

Careful watcher.. you have to take the Karan in context... because while there are one-liners THROUGHOUT the old testament of the bible which sound WRETCHED.. when taken in context of the society that was around back then.. it wasn't as horrid as it seems now...

So perhaps you taking one line out of the Karan MIGHT be a bit misleading..

DrewM
09-10-2006, 06:01 PM
Careful watcher.. you have to take the Karan in context... because while there are one-liners THROUGHOUT the old testament of the bible which sound WRETCHED.. when taken in context of the society that was around back then.. it wasn't as horrid as it seems now...

So perhaps you taking one line out of the Karan MIGHT be a bit misleading..

Exactly - great point

If we took the Bible as a yardstick then we'd be a civilization of savages killing people off for the most minor of things.

Watcher
09-10-2006, 08:49 PM
Read it for yourself then:

Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread) Baset - Hussari - Minshawi

5:51 O YOU who have attained to faith! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they are but allies of one another [72] and whoever of you allies himself with them becomes, verily, one of them; behold, God does not guide such evildoers. [73]

Consider yourself warned. To use the Bible as an excuse not to listen won't do you any good if you're dead.

Darth Be'lal
09-10-2006, 09:07 PM
Read it for yourself then:

Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread) Baset - Hussari - Minshawi

5:51 O YOU who have attained to faith! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they are but allies of one another [72] and whoever of you allies himself with them becomes, verily, one of them; behold, God does not guide such evildoers. [73]

Consider yourself warned. To use the Bible as an excuse not to listen won't do you any good if you're dead.

I really don't think that ALL muslims have the extermination of Christians and Jews in the backs of their minds. On the other hand, haven't seen very many Muslims condemn attacks like 9/11, 7/11 the train attacks in Spain and in India. Such silence is absolutely deafening. On my part, there IS a certain amount of suspicion about Muslims and what they're up to. Enough to be vigilant anyway. I firmly believe that Muslims can integrate with mainstream America. After all, America has managed to integrate people from all over the world. On the other hand, I don't believe that America should stand for some iman or shiek to be preaching Jihad in the Mosques.

500lbguerilla
09-10-2006, 10:30 PM
He said CONTEXT marti. If you are too stupid to know what this means please leave. If you are too brainwashed against 'evil muslims' to care, please leave. And finally if you are unwilling to even try and grasp what someone is saying, again, please leave.

Consider yourself warned. To use the Bible as an excuse not to listen won't do you any good if you're dead. right so then we should be rounding up Jews, Christians, Muslims and anyone else with crazy shite writtin in their 'holy books'.

Wait I got a plan...we can all dig holes and put our heads in them. Then the person next to them can fill the hole in.....

Watcher
09-11-2006, 08:19 PM
[QUOTE=500lbguerilla]He said CONTEXT marti. If you are too stupid to know what this means please leave. If you are too brainwashed against 'evil muslims' to care, please leave. And finally if you are unwilling to even try and grasp what someone is saying, again, please leave.
QUOTE]

People who can not debate logically must attack and insult to make themselves feel superior. (Yawn)

Watcher
09-11-2006, 08:21 PM
ON second thought, I think I will leave. You are not a real frendly bunch and there are plenty of other places to go.

You'll think you are right ... right up until you find out you are wrong.

DanF
09-12-2006, 04:10 AM
ON second thought, I think I will leave. You are not a real frendly bunch and there are plenty of other places to go.

You'll think you are right ... right up until you find out you are wrong.
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Don't be thin-skinned Watcher, stick around. These guy's bark is a whole lot worse than their bite. :hitout: :corn: :lolhit:

sedan
09-12-2006, 05:17 PM
These guy's bark is a whole lot worse than their bite. :hitout: :corn: :lolhit:Oh yeah?

Well, the correct plural possessive form of guy is guys' with the apostrophe at the end.

So there! :)

es347fan
09-12-2006, 05:54 PM
Yuze tell 'em, bubba

DanF
09-13-2006, 03:59 AM
Oh yeah?

Well, the correct plural possessive form of guy is guys' with the apostrophe at the end.

So there! :)
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And don't you forget it. :woohoo:

ivan
09-13-2006, 10:54 AM
ok youse guyz. cut it out and gits reel.

WindWip
09-13-2006, 01:12 PM
Read it for yourself then:

Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread) Baset - Hussari - Minshawi

5:51 O YOU who have attained to faith! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they are but allies of one another [72] and whoever of you allies himself with them becomes, verily, one of them; behold, God does not guide such evildoers. [73]

Consider yourself warned. To use the Bible as an excuse not to listen won't do you any good if you're dead.

Not to keep hounding on a single point; but there is a big difference between killing people and not keeping them as allies - Also, christianity says that if you follow another religion you'll go to hell, so that pushes a further divide between the religions, as christian belief states that all muslims are going to hell; and therefore are not as holy.

DanF
09-13-2006, 02:01 PM
Not to keep hounding on a single point; but there is a big difference between killing people and not keeping them as allies - Also, christianity says that if you follow another religion you'll go to hell, so that pushes a further divide between the religions, as christian belief states that all muslims are going to hell; and therefore are not as holy.
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Reminds one of rival gangs.