Well, we're into the pre-season just a bit, who's going to come out on top this time around?

I watched Green Bay slap the Falcons around last night, it wasn't pretty.

Post your NFL commentary here. Let's see if we can get this to last throughout the season. What team is your favorite? What team's loss just makes your day? (For me, when Dallas loses, I buy the house a round). Any predictions early on for who will wind up in the Super Bowl next January?

Let me just tell you that football season gives me nightmares. My parents watch in year round (they watch the NFL Europe too) and I don't get the point.. I know how the games played basicly, bc i was in marching band.. but I just don't like it.

Hooray, a football thread!
Was wondering if someone was going to start one up.

I am a Browns fan. I don't look for them to do much this year. But what else is new?

They might surprise me by going 8 -8..

I dislike the Ravens. Truth be told, I hate their guts, and that's on a good day.
I follow no other team besides my Brownies. Never understood how some people can like more than one team. This seems bizarre.

However, I dislike MANY teams including the Steelers, Bungels, Cowboys, and a few others that I won't name because I have reason to believe these teams have some fans here......:lolhit:

I kinda like the Panthers and Colts in the Super Bowl this year but it is WAY too early to tell.

Let the games begin!

It shall be a very exciting year. I can't wait for the regular season to start. I am looking forward to watching the Cowboys this year, I really think they have a very good team, I am going to go ahead and say maybe SuperBowl contender. But we shall see.

I just hope the Packers don't cause me too much pain. I'd settle for 7-9 as long as they beat the ViQueens at least once.

I just hope the Vikings don't cause me too much pain. I'd settle for 7-9 as long as they beat the AssPackers at least once.

Giants, Colts in the Super Bowl. Colts win it for Dungy.

It shall be a very exciting year. I can't wait for the regular season to start. I am looking forward to watching the Cowboys this year, I really think they have a very good team, I am going to go ahead and say maybe SuperBowl contender. But we shall see.


IMO, if there's one thing that keeps the Cowboys from being playoff contenders, it's this--Terrell Owens.

He's a good player, but hardly Hutson or Rice. He is simply not worth the trouble. He's a disruptive element everywhere he goes, and so far has spent most of his training camp riding a stationary bike.
Parcells might be able to control him but he's a loose cannon. I thank god the Browns didn't pick him up--our front office has made its share of big time goofs --we have enough problems without HIM.

Can Cowboy fans REALLY forget how he pranced on your Star ?

Our Dawgpound would not and make him pay for his sassiness--believe me.

I really think TO won't cause as much trouble as he did in SF and Philly. Parcells knows how to keep him in check. Parcells is not a very patient guy, so if TO fucks up, he won't stand for it. TO will change or there is no place in the league for him.

Well, we're into the pre-season just a bit, who's going to come out on top this time around?

I watched Green Bay slap the Falcons around last night, it wasn't pretty.

I thought it was a pretty nice game. However, I expect the Packers to wind up around 8 - 8. Their biggest improvement from last year is on defense. Adding Charles Woodson and Marquand Manuel in the defensive backfield, and drafting A.J. Hawk and Abdul Hodge at linebacker has improved the ability of the defense to actually keep the team in games and get some turnovers.
Their biggest weakness's are a young offensive line, lack of depth at wide reciever, and lack of a dominant running back. Favre is going to have to work miracles to score much this year. The only nice surprise on the offense so far has been Jennings, a low round draft choice from Central Michigain University. He arrived at camp having already learned not only his own pass routes, but the pass routes for all the other reciever positions. He also has shown the ability to actually catch the football. He is only average in speed and a bit on the small side, but seems likely to wind up as the third reciever.

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I just hope the Vikings don't cause me too much pain. I'd settle for 7-9 as long as they beat the AssPackers at least once.
Sweet, another Vikings fan!

And yes, Lionel...I'm back to tear the packers a new one. Let our pretty much traditional Viking/Packer war of words and occasional pictures begin!

How many plays actually exist in the NFL? I was once informed that only 4 exist, and they are: NRL, NRR, SPDN, WBKB. PM me with your interpretation.

If we get it right, do we win free tickets to the Pro Bowl in Hawaii?

Let me think on this a spell and I might have to resort to cheating-- I have the NFL Handbook.

I'm stumped, but I think the first 2 are running plays and the last two, passing.
Can ya tell me if I'm kinda on the right track?

NRL--Not Really LaDanian (the Chargers are using a standin with his number)

NRR--Not Really the Ravens (they're the stolen Browns. The BROWNS!!!!!

I'm stumped, but I think the first 2 are running plays and the last two, passing.
Can ya tell me if I'm kinda on the right track?Kinda. The first two are running plays.

Think racist humor.

He also has shown the ability to actually catch the football.

Then he's got one up on Ferguson. Can we finally cut that guy?

And yes, Lionel...I'm back to tear the packers a new one. Let our pretty much traditional Viking/Packer war of words and occasional pictures begin!

Well, well, well, look what the Vikings' Party Cruise dragged in.

Think racist humor.

. . . Oooooh. I still can't get SPDN.

So far they are still listing Ferguson as the starter, I think because of his experience. Hopefully that will change soon. I doubt they will actually cut Ferguson due to a lack of depth at the position. Right now Rod Gardener is listed as the fourth wide reciever behind Driver, Ferguson, and Jennings. We can only hope for a lack of injuries at the position, because the depth is not there. Favre could wind up with the same sort of targets he had last year.
Also, Henderson just had his knee scoped today, and is expected to miss 3-4 weeks. That leaves Vonta Leach as the starting fullback for a while. Samkon Gado is now working out as a reserve fullback. The good news is that Ahman Green is now practicing. It remains to be seen how good he will be coming off major knee surgery.

Can you guys please talk about a REAL team?

Thanks.


PS. There are some evil posters here with bad attitudes who ort to have their mouths washed out with soap.Now you just think about that.


To wile away the time, i will list some kewl football names, and why don't players nowadays have great nicknames anymore....whatever happened to monickers like "Crazylegs" Hirsch, "Bulldog" Turner, "Blood" McNally, or Billy "White Shoes" Johnson?
Or my personal fave, Dick "Night Train" Lane?

Another year, i cant wait.

Of course i am predicting the Colts to win it... even though they lost Edgerrin James, they have a very productive replacement in Dominic Rhodes.. this guy is not as slashy as Edge, but he runs straight down the field like a Stephen Jackson.

Expect Peyton Manning to air it out this year like he did two years ago en route to a 49 TD pass season... i predict Manning to have 50 TD passes this year.. breaking his record.

Also expect the Indy Defense to be more comfortable with the system, and watch Freeny, Reagor, Triplett, and Cory Simon eat up opposing quarterbacks.. while Cato June and Andre Thornton continue to improve at Linebacker.

Of course our weakness has always been our cornerbacks and safetys.. lets home Mike Doss can stay healthy... but watch out because while many people have written off the Colts.. they are DANGEROUS this year.

I predict they win 12-14 games this year...get homefield advantage, and don't make the same mistake twice against the steelers. We smacked them up during the regular season last year 26-7.. it was a blowout... i think Indy's bye week hurt their chances to stay "in sync".. while Pittsburgh just got hot at the right time...

"PS. There are some evil posters here with bad attitudes who ort to have their mouths washed out with soap.Now you just think about that."

Care to elaborate on that statement?

Yes--I doubt the problem would go over too well with Romeo Crennell--a fine man.

The only thing a fan should be concerned with is the color of a player's uniform.

Originally posted by LionelHutz

Well, well, well, look what the Vikings' Party Cruise dragged in.
...and I've got the Favre-o-Matic Interception Counter with me as well. Before the season is all said and done, I may have to add a third digit place to it.

All things aside, It's gonna be interesting to see just where the Vikes wind up. New head coach, a few new players, new unis (which I think are pretty cool), new personnel and everything else. My prediction is that they'll finish 10-6 at absolute best.

Will Buffalo do anything this season, or are they facing yet another disappointing one?

But
I
Love
Losing
Superbowls!

At least you've BEEN to a Super Bowl.
Getting there is half the fun.

Decka, does Triplett still play for the Colts?
Also, what are you going to do now that Mungro has been injured and is out for the season?

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Always the bride's maid, never the bride.

But
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Browns beat Bills 20-17 on the road, commiting no turnovers ( egad) and our rookie QB Charlie Frye (well, he's not exactly a rookie any more) looked pretty dang impressive.

This could be a more interesting season than I thought!

The Packers definitely looked better against Atlanta than they did in their first game. They moved some people around in the offensive line, and that seemed to help. One projected starter lost his job, and probably isn't going to get it back.
It will be interesting to see if the improvement continues this week with a Monday Night Football game against Cincinati. Since the starters are expected to play for about three quarters, it should give a better indication of what to expect from the season. Also several players who are coming off injuries will see their first action, most notably Ahman Green and Marquand Manuel. How well they have recovered could mean a great deal in how the season goes.

Rendova.. let me just say that im not pleased to hear about Mungro.. the guy is a horse, and if given the spotlight he could shine. It really leaves the running duties up to Rhodes and the new rookie from LSU... and while im a big fan of Rhodes.. maybe im hoping more than having sheer and utter confidence in him.

I say we are still sitting okay.. A few of the linemen have injuries.. Cory Simon is on and off the field but should be okay by the season's beginning.

and good catch on Triplett. i forgot he left.. but we still have Raheem Brock who is a stud. Its nice having 5 good linemen, because after losing Triplet we still have a 4 man wrecking crew up front.

Silverbullet.. the Favre-O-Matic Interception thing is hilarious.. im going to use that.. that is.. if i have permission LOL

And let me say this Vikings and Raiders fans.. the preseason don't mean jack. Indianapolis has THE WORST preseason record over the past few years.. but yet they have one of the best regular season records over the same time.

BUT.. the colts DID use this past preseason game as a dress rehersal for the season.. i mean.. they had an 8 GAME PRESEASON LOSING STREAK... they hadnt won a preseason game since 2004. But we took a 17-0 halftime lead en route to a 27-14 win over the saints. We scored on 3 of our 4 first possessions.. it seems the offense is clicking.. i cant wait for Peyton to tear up the NFL again.

...and I've got the Favre-o-Matic Interception Counter with me as well. Before the season is all said and done, I may have to add a third digit place to it.

All things aside, It's gonna be interesting to see just where the Vikes wind up. New head coach, a few new players, new unis (which I think are pretty cool), new personnel and everything else. My prediction is that they'll finish 10-6 at absolute best.

It all depends on how many of those players get arrested. Given their training camp police blotter, they may have few left by playoff time.

that Division is packed.. no way the Vikings win the division and go 10-6...

Detroit is new and improved:

Mike Martz + John Kitna + Roy Williams + Kevin Jones = lots of points

Chicago is probalby better than last season

and Brett Favre is handing out Hall of Fame invitations for cornerbacks who need INTs to make it there... LOL

My prediction for the conference:

1. Chicago
2. Detroit
3. Minnesota
4. Green Bay

Sorry Imagineer.. Ahman Green needs to prove he's really Ahman Green before i put them up more LOL.

And let me say this Vikings and Raiders fans.. the preseason don't mean jack. Indianapolis has THE WORST preseason record over the past few years.. but yet they have one of the best regular season records over the same time.Holy crap, Decka. Who the hell said anything about the pre-season meaning squat? Can't you even talk sports without setting up a strawman?

Holy crap, Decka. Who the hell said anything about the pre-season meaning squat? Can't you even talk sports without setting up a strawman?

Why do you hate America, sedan?

Why do you hate America, sedan?ROTFL!!

Lawyers, of course. The place absolutely crawls with them.

And the beer sucks too!

that Division is packed.. no way the Vikings win the division and go 10-6...

Detroit is new and improved:

Mike Martz + John Kitna + Roy Williams + Kevin Jones = lots of points

Chicago is probalby better than last season

and Brett Favre is handing out Hall of Fame invitations for cornerbacks who need INTs to make it there... LOL

My prediction for the conference:

1. Chicago
2. Detroit
3. Minnesota
4. Green Bay

Sorry Imagineer.. Ahman Green needs to prove he's really Ahman Green before i put them up more LOL.

My hopes for the Packers are limited this season. I figure them to wind up 8-8 at best. They are rebuilding after Mike Shermans terrible stint as GM. He drafted 21 players, and only seven are actually still on the team. The defense is stronger this year, but they have major problems at running back, where Ahman Green will never again be the back he was. He had already lost a step last season before his injury. The chances of a thirty year old running back coming back from surgery regaining his peak form are not good, and his performance Monday wasn't hopeful. If they had anyone to replace him, he would probably already have been cut.
Another major weakness is the offensive line. They are very young in the middle, but have some talent. They need time together to gel. They will improve as the season goes on.
The final glaring weakness is at wide reciever. They have Driver, and Jennings is looking good as a rookie. That Feruson is still on the team, much less starting should be an indication of how little else they have at the position.
In short the defense will be better than last year, but Favre has very little to work with on the offense. It is going to take another year or two before the Packers are going to be good again. I expect Favre to retire before then, and I think it will be Aaron Rodgers team before they make the playoffs again.
I have supported and loved rooting for the Packers since the Lombardi Era. There have been some good years, and some truly awful years in that span. I do try to maintain a sense of reality, however. This will not be the best of years, but it won't be the worst either.

The NFL has achieved a level of parity that MLB will never, ever know.
Last year a team that just barely slid into the playoffs (the Steelers) went on to run the table and they won it all.

I wouldn't care to make any predictions about who is going to the show, since so many teams are so closely matched, and in the end it's going to come down to endurance and keeping your players healthy.

All that said, I have fervent hopes that my Dolphins are going to defeat the Chargers in the AFC championship this year, and will go on to win the Superbowl, with a clutch Olindo Mare fieldgoal in overtime, in front of a hometown crowd, besting the Redskins.

(Damn you, John Riggins. I've got scars from your 43 yard touchdown run in Superbowl XVII that will never heal.)
:(

The NFL has achieved a level of parity that MLB will never, ever know.
Last year a team that just barely slid into the playoffs (the Steelers) went on to run the table and they won it all.


:(

1. True, yet last year's World Series contenders, the Sox and Astros, combined salaries were less than the Yankee's.

2. That's because they cheated.:eek:

Another Packer fan/Viking hater here. My hopes are that the Packers do better than 4-12. With all the running backs they have I would hope that one would step up. Wide receiver may be a problem though. Ironically I think it will be the defense that keeps them in games this year.

My prediction for the Vikings is they will do what they usually do. Go 7-2 or something close to that and then tank it the rest of the season. My all-time favorite moment as a Viking hater was back a few years ago when they were fighting the Pack to win the Central. All they had to do was win against the Cardinals but oh that last second touchdown pass was so sweet. I can still hear the Viking radio announcer screaming "Nooooo!"

Ah good times, good times.

Welcome to another Packer fan. I hope a running back steps up, but so far they seem to have a lot of "just another guy types" at the position. The time is growing short for someone to step up. Of course part of the problem, perhaps a big part is the inexperience of the offensive line. Hopefully the blocking will improve as time goes on. If not it is going to be another long season.

the way Favre is looking, it looks like another 25+ INT year and alot of angry packer fans. That guy looked CLUELESS on monday night...

and he's supposed to be a veteran? I think Charlie Frye could put out a better performance than Favre...

The guy should have retired years ago... and Madden STILL rides his dick

the way Favre is looking, it looks like another 25+ INT year and alot of angry packer fans. That guy looked CLUELESS on monday night...

and he's supposed to be a veteran? I think Charlie Frye could put out a better performance than Favre...

The guy should have retired years ago... and Madden STILL rides his dick

I can't defend Favres performance on Monday night. His own explanation is that he doesn't really know and trust all his recievers yet. I think he probably should have retired after last season. Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback of the future, and has consistently outplayed Favre this preseason.
That said, I think the main problems with the Packers offense this year are the offensive line, the lack of a running game, and the weak group of recievers.

I can't wait for the first week of football. I am looking forward to watching the Falcons - Panthers. It will be a very exciting game. What games are you looking forward to during the first week of NFL?

I am awaiting the Packers vs Bears. A wonderful and long standing rivalry, and a chance to spoil the experts predictions right off. By the way, Lionel, Ferguson has lost his starting job to Jennings. Unfortunately he remains as the third wide reciever.

Doesn't look good for the Bills' early season - first up is New England, followed by Miami, both away games, both big rivalries. Guess I'll save my money and not engage in any betting early on.

I am awaiting the Packers vs Bears. A wonderful and long standing rivalry, and a chance to spoil the experts predictions right off. By the way, Lionel, Ferguson has lost his starting job to Jennings. Unfortunately he remains as the third wide reciever.
I think the Bears have this game marked on their calendar. It'll be a good game if you're a Bears fan, but as you are a Packers fan you'll be very very sad.

What the Packers need is a sudden and totally unpredicted blizzard. Seriously, it could be a better game than you think. There is still a Lambeau Field advantage. Also, the Packers have had this game circled as well. Losing twice to the Bears last season did not sit well with the Packer Nation.

I don't see how a blizzard would be at an advantage to the Packers as the Bears are used to that kind of weather. Then again, Favre is known to have his best games on blizzards. It will be interesting but I think the Bears will come away with that one.

Bit/byte's correct, a blizzard wouldn't work on the Bears. The Vikings, however . . .

Browns play the Aints Sunday at Browns Stadium, kickoff 1 pm, for the start of their sixthiest season.

I expect a good game--excitement will run high.

"Cry havoc, and unleash the dogs of war...."


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Browns play the Aints Sunday at Browns Stadium, kickoff 1 pm, for the start of their sixthiest season.

I expect a good game--excitement will run high.

"Cry havoc, and unleash the dogs of war...."
I don't expect it to be a good game. Neither one of the teams is good, but I expect the Saints to come up on top. Browns are horrible. No offense Rendova.

We're not THAT bad...bad, yes, but HORRIBLE?
Nah.

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Perhpaps I have used a rather harsh word, but it's also the Browns schedule. I was just looking at it and it looks pretty tough.

Bit/byte's correct, a blizzard wouldn't work on the Bears. The Vikings, however . . .Sad, but true. Once upon a time it was a cruel schedule that brought teams to Minnesota in December. Now it's just another day on the astroturf under the plastic sky. Not only is the home field advantage diminished but we suck on the road when we play outdoors. It's neither right nor natural and this displeases the football gods.

Buffalo had the opportunity to build a dome & went for an open stadium. No fun playing there in the snow.

For what it's worth, my dime is on the Steelers tonite.

It's neither right nor natural and this displeases the football gods.

It's also a really bad place to watch a baseball game. Bleh. Not to mention the odd breeze when you walk out the door.

I just think that a blizzard always helps the Packers. While it is true that it isn't as effective against the Bears as some teams, it couldn't hurt. The Packers defense is better than the offense this year, so anything that handicaps both offenses is bound to be good. Of course it is a little early in the season to realistically hope for snow. December is usually the right time for the frozen tundra effect to really take hold.

Last night NFL kicked off, unfortunately I forgot about it and I missed the first game. I saw the stats just now, and it looked like it was a good game. Did anybody happen to catch that game?

Hell yeah, go Browns.

The Steelers owned the Dolphins last night.

Hell yeah, go Browns.

Welcome, fellow Browns fan.

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Welcome, fellow Browns fan.

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Thanks, I might have to steal one of those signatures :p

I was really worried about the browns this year after their whole center debacle, but getting Hank Fraley from the Eagles was a great move. Not expecting playoffs, but we should definitely do better than last year.

Whoever said the browns have no D is on crack.. that is THEIR STRONGPOINT.. they will be top 10 AGAIN on D this year.. they picked up McGhinnist from New England, Ted Washington... they have a solid defense.. its the O that has to turn it on...

And while the center position is questionable for the browns.. they will just run Droughns to the outside tackle... he'll get over 1000 yards again this year.. watch. I live in cleveland, so i follow them quite a bit.. they arent my fav though

Browns will beat the saints... i predict 27-20

As for Imagineer.. i think a blizzard plays the BEARS strengths... The packers are all pass right now.. they have a banged up Ahmad Green, and Samkon Gado or whoever to back him up. The bears have a top 3 Defense, and they have Thomas Jones back for the running game. Either in cold or normal weather.. i say the bears win like 20-13 or so...

THe game to watch??? BATTLE OF THE MANNINGS!!! no im not getting all caught up in that bullshit.. while i love Peyton, its the COLTS VS GIANTS not Peyton vs. Eli.. and i see the Colts winning 31-21

Manning looked like a stud in the preseason.. lets hope he rolls right through into the regular season with no hiccups.. i predict Manning to perhaps come close to the 49TD pass record this year.

Browns lose to Aints at home, 19-14. At least we scored some points....sad note--we had two TDs called back because of penalties.

I saw that game, and I was a bit dissapointed in Frye's start but as the game progressed he played better and better. And Decka since you think they have such a great D, where was that D this Sunday? They allowed Reggie Bush to run all over them. Perhaps next week @ Cinci they will have better luck; YA RIGHT. Browns suck!

Oh yea, the Bears owned the Packers. That Bears D got me a lot of points this week. I am happy!

I saw that game, and I was a bit dissapointed in Frye's start but as the game progressed he played better and better. And Decka since you think they have such a great D, where was that D this Sunday? They allowed Reggie Bush to run all over them. Perhaps next week @ Cinci they will have better luck; YA RIGHT. Browns suck!


Heh, we gave up 328 total yards against the Aints, those Cowboys of yours gave up a total of 334 against J'ville.
SO, Browns defense is better ( tho not by much) than "God's" (yeah, right) team's defense.
So there. :o


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Oh yea, the Bears owned the Packers. That Bears D got me a lot of points this week. I am happy!


Well, my oldest daughter is very UNhappy.
She sees herself as Mrs. Brett Favre and will be a grouchy cuss all week because of this.

Heh, we gave up 328 total yards against the Aints, those Cowboys of yours gave up a total of 334 against J'ville.
SO, Browns defense is better (tho not by much) than "God's" (yeah, right) team's defense. So there. :o

Haha, yes you're right. I put it all on Bledsoe, it's all his fault. I was happy with TO, but that's going to change I think... as for the defense, I can't defend that, I have no idea what happened. They didn't play up to their potential. It is only the first game, so we'll see how they handle the Skinz next week. It'll be a very good game I expect.

Well, my oldest daughter is very UNhappy.
She sees herself as Mrs. Brett Favre and will be a grouchy cuss all week because of this.

Well, she's going to be a "grouchy cuss" all season long then, cause Favre is not what he used to be. Another 30INTs season. :)

It is going to be a long season. I can only hope that the Bears are better than anyone thought. Unfortunately I suspect that the Packers are worse than anyone thought.

The Bears seem to be doing fine. The offense did well against the Packers. They moved the ball down the field well, Muhammad and Clark had good games. Thought the running game could be a bit better. Grossman did much better than I expected. I expect them to play very well against the Lions next week.

Half of a good football Sunday - the Bills lost a squeaker, and the cowpukes from Dallas got handled. Team of the week? Jacksonville Jaguars!

I definitely give them props on how well they played defense.

The Bears seem to be doing fine. The offense did well against the Packers. They moved the ball down the field well, Muhammad and Clark had good games. Thought the running game could be a bit better. Grossman did much better than I expected. I expect them to play very well against the Lions next week.

The Lions are a truly bad team.
If (when) Da Bears beat them, well, that's not saying much.
Whereas other cellar-dwellers have made some strides, I see the lowly Lions as being mired in mediocrity ---forever. All thanks to Matt Millen, who's a meddlesome cuss.

PS I actually thought the shock of the week was Carolina losing. Oh well, they got a slow start last year, and didn't have Steve Smith--he should return next week.

PS I actually thought the shock of the week was Carolina losing. Oh well, they got a slow start last year, and didn't have Steve Smith--he should return next week.
Either that or the Bucs getting blown out.

All thanks to Matt Millen, who's a meddlesome cuss.

Matt's not helping, but it can't be all his fault. There's just something about the Lions. I bet they're starting to pine for the days of Wayne Fontes!

LOL, I'll say this for the Lions--they have the coolest logo in the NFL.

I like the Chargers logo better...

I like the Browns logo.

Bless your heart......


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F them cowboys

F them cowboys
Ok, who do you like?

It's my opinion that people probably hate the Cowboys more than any other team in the NFL.
Why?

1. Call themselves "God's " team
2. Call themselves "America's" team
3. Call themselves either God's or America's team.

You have to admit, this is pretty dang ridiculous. God is not a football fan, and besides, he likes the White Sox (this year).

A question:

Why do the Cowboys call themselves "God's" team?
If they were really God's team, wouldn't they win all their games and win the Super Bowl every year?
So, in fact, there basically shouldn't even be an NFL?
Seeing as how God hates all the other teams, so why even play?
Just wondering.

I've been a cowboys hater for many years. There's so many of us, it's almost a club of its' own. For me, there is some history. When the current owner bought the club, (& turned out to be from Arkansas) he first fired the coach - Tom Landry - in a disrespectful way. Then he hired the ex-coach of the Univ of OK Sooners. Both Arkansas & Oklahoma are long time Texas rivals on the college level. Having attended Univ of TX at Austin, the cowpukes immediately gained sewer rat status. It's been a long & delightful dislike.

As I now live in a suburb of Atlanta, I like the Falcons. Having grown up in western NY, a perennial favorite has to be the lackluster Bills, as I've noted in other posts.

F them cowboys!

A question:
Why do the Cowboys call themselves "God's" team?
If they were really God's team, wouldn't they win all their games and win the Super Bowl every year?
So, in fact, there basically shouldn't even be an NFL?
Seeing as how God hates all the other teams, so why even play?
Just wondering.

I do not know the answer to those questions. Myself, I do not think of the Cowboys as "God's team or America's team." I have heard about this, but never really paid attention to it.

I've been a cowboys hater for many years. There's so many of us, it's almost a club of its' own. For me, there is some history. When the current owner bought the club, (& turned out to be from Arkansas) he first fired the coach - Tom Landry - in a disrespectful way. Then he hired the ex-coach of the Univ of OK Sooners. Both Arkansas & Oklahoma are long time Texas rivals on the college level. Having attended Univ of TX at Austin, the cowpukes immediately gained sewer rat status. It's been a long & delightful dislike.

As I now live in a suburb of Atlanta, I like the Falcons. Having grown up in western NY, a perennial favorite has to be the lackluster Bills, as I've noted in other posts.
Now I understand why you hate the Cowboys so much. It all starts at management level. I do agree with you when they fired Tom Landry. It was very rude and disrespectful. Since you're a Falcons fan, what are your thoughts on Vick?

He seems to be ok. A bit early in the season for me to call it tho.

F them cowboys!

Bless your heart......



I was kidding. Do they even have a logo?

I saw the Browns-Saints Game.. the browns have noone to blame but themselves.. the play-calling was attrocious.. they only ran Droughns 11 times.. and had Charlie Frye throw the ball almost 30 TIMES.. they need to look at what they are -- *** a running team*** -- and do that.. run. K2 finally did something.. but Braylon and company dropped balls, Frye missed reads.. and the end result was a loss... no suprise.

The Bears aren't as good as they looked.. they just played the worst team in the NFL.. yes i said it. The Green Bay Packers are the worst team in the NFL. Sherman has screwed them for so many years in the draft that it has finally caught up to them. Plus.. Favre is screwing them by not giving Aaron Rodgers a chance to see if he's "the man".. I feel sorry for Packer fans.. but i respect that you stick by your team... there are ALOT LESS "packer fans" now then there were when Favre was winning MVP's and Super bowls.

But about the Bears.. Grossmen is going to fall.. and Greise will take his spot.. watch.

As for the Colts.. we beat a super bowl condtender.. and squeeked out a win.. go Peyton, and Gooo COLTS wooooo!!!

Colts play Houston next week.. watch Peyton blow up.

I tend to agree that this years Packer team is not very good. I think they have some young talent, but it is going to be a while before they gain the experience to show it. I don't think Favre is as bad as he has looked, but he has almost no blocking, and recievers who are not that good with the exception of Driver. Jennings has got potential, but coming from Western Michigan to the NFL is a signifigant jump in the level of competition.

I also agree that Sherman was a lousy General Manager. Here is an interesting statistic; Sherman drafted 21 players in three years as GM, and only seven are still with the team.

The most interesting thing about the game with the Bears was how poorly the vaunted free agent aquisitions played. I was not impressed with Woodson. He was getting beaten in coverage regularly. Pickett, who was supposed to stuff the run was regularly pushed off the line.

I agree with your point about starting Rodgers as well. I think he needs the experience, and when the Packers do rebuild it will be his team (hopefully). He has yet to demonstrate his skills in a real game, but the potential is there. I think the ideal move would be to trade Favre to a team that needs a quarterback, recieving in return a decent draft choice for next year. I wonder if Kansas City would give us a first round pick? I'll bet someone would give us a decent pick. It would probably be better for Favre as well, getting to go out with a chance at a decent season. The only real drawback is that many Packer's fans would freak out at the idea of trading Favre.

Lionel--we have never had a logo. When the guys come off the field and take their helmets off, the helmets look like so many orange pumpkins growing in a pumpkin patch. A few years ago, you could buy some Browns stuff with a fancy "B" on it. This caused a huge backlash from the fans. The B is nowhere to be seen anymore.
I guess our REAL logo is a snarling, 250 lb mastiff. Woof.

Imagineer---my dau will be one of those who has a fit if Brett is traded. If he cannot be a Packer, she would rather see him dead. This is ridiculous thinking on her part as I do think that he should have retired at least 2 years ago and fans HAVE to think of the future. A team is not just one guy.

Decka--give Frye a chance. I remember how truly horrid Aikman and Bradshaw were their first few seasons. When all is said and done, it's the PENALTIES that are killing us (like last year). Crennel will address this or else.
Also, think the Colts will go 11-5 this year. I just don't see them being as good as they were last year and some fans here are starting to get on the "kill Dungy" bandwagon, sorry to say.

Decka--give Frye a chance. I remember how truly horrid Aikman and Bradshaw were their first few seasons. When all is said and done, it's the PENALTIES that are killing us (like last year). Crennel will address this or else.
I agree with you, he's still a young guy, and it can be very frustrating. I think he played well considering he i s a young and inexperienced QB. As for the penalties, the Browns only had 4 for 35 yards, but they were at critical timing in the game. So yea, penalties killed your chances. Also the WRs have to make the catches, Braylon Edwards dropped a pass from Frye, that would have brought a first down for the Browns, and may have given them a chance to win.

F them cowboys!
I think you have made your point already, you've posted this 3 times.

I'm thinking of adding it to my signature. Anything to infuriate a cowpukes fan. It's in the club charter.

Go right ahead. I don't know if you'll infuriate me, but when the Cowboys win it all, I'll feel much better.

Go right ahead. I don't know if you'll infuriate me, but when the Cowboys win it all, I'll feel much better.
I wonder if that will happen with The Big Asshole Parcells as head coach.

Asshole? I think he's a damn good coach.

I also agree that Sherman was a lousy General Manager. Here is an interesting statistic; Sherman drafted 21 players in three years as GM, and only seven are still with the team.

Trading up to draft that punter had to be among the most retarded things he did. Not to mention how he kept throwing big money at questionable talent, especially on the defensive line.

I actually respect Parcells. He had the nerve to tell the smarmy dolt Jerry Jones to stay out of the locker room and stop telling the guys how to play.

He must be an idiot tho, to even take that job and work for the most meddlesome, smarmy, gladhanding, publicity- seeking, phoney turd in the NFL. I could almost feel sorry for Parcells.

Still tho, Jones isn't as bad as Georgia Frontiere, who owned the Rams. This was an ancient old hag who'd actually go into the locker room while the guys were nekkid and drool over "her boys". She actually patted them on their heads like they were dogs. You should have seen the looks on their faces---like they didn't know whether to laugh or throw up.

Anyone who thinks Tony Dungy should go is on crack or the biggest idiot i've ever seen. I read an article about how this year is Dungy's last chance to get to the super bowl.. and i couldnt disagree more. Indy should HANG ON to dungy for YEARS to come.. the man gets to the playoffs almost EVERY year. The Steelers stuck with big-chinned Bill.. and look what happened? Today's idea of only giving a coach a few years to change a team around is retarded. There ISNT a better coach OR a better overall GUY in the NFL than Tony Dungy.. Indianapolis would be STUPID to let him go.. and all the people who are bringing it up are STUPID as well.

As for the Cowboys... i almost shot water out my nose when i heard someone say they'd "win it all"... i'd bet millions on that one.

The Big Tuna.. Bill Parcells.. is a good coach, but he's WAYYY overrated. He hasnt been to a super bowl in 10 years, and hasnt won a super bowl in like 15... i heard a stat that said in his last 50 games in the reg season, he is 25-25... sounds like a pretty average coach to me. He may have USED to be a good coach, or had good players.. but he's not the same now. He's average at best.

I agree the Packers should trade Favre.. i didnt think about KC but that would be a good fit.. so would Oakland. Or maybe even Chicago. Then we could find out if he's washed up or his team just doesn't protect him. i DO like the AJ Hawk draft.. that guy should be a starting linebacker in this league for years... good pick.

As for the Colts record this year.. i think 11-5 is a little low.. i see us winning home field this year.. so i said 12-4... but lets look at their schdule:

@ New York Giants 26 - 21 W
2 9/17 HOUSTON TEXANS 1:00 PM
3 9/24 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS 1:00 PM
4 10/1 @ New York Jets 1:00 PM
5 10/8 TENNESSEE TITANS 1:00 PM
6 10/15 BYE -
7 10/22 WASHINGTON REDSKINS 4:15 PM
8 10/29 @ Denver Broncos 4:15 PM
9 11/5 @ New England Patriots 8:15 PM
10 11/12 BUFFALO BILLS 1:00 PM
11 11/19 @ Dallas Cowboys 1:00 PM
12 11/26 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES 1:00 PM
13 12/3 @ Tennessee Titans 1:00 PM
14 12/10 @ Jacksonville Jaguars 1:00 PM
15 12/18 CINCINNATI BENGALS 8:30 PM
16 12/24 @ Houston Texans 1:00 PM
17 12/31 MIAMI DOLPHINS

Winnable games are Houston twice(2 wins), Tennessee twice,(4 wins), Probably a split with Jacksonville(5), NY Jets(6), Redskins(7), Bills(8), Cowboys(9), Eagles(10), Dolphins(11).. and we already beat NY Giants.

Now i know it doesnt ALWAYS work out like it should ON PAPER.. but games that are up in the air on the schedule would be Denver, New England, and Cincinnati.. so while Philly or Dallas might beat us.. we could easily beat one of the three which are up in the air, or more likely take 2 out of the three.

I see AT LEAST 12-4... and home field AGAIN this year... but this time hopefully WE will be the "hot team" at the right time(like we WERENT last year), and this time we have "mr. clutch" Adam Vinitari...

I think we have a strong chance to make the super bowl.

Anyone who thinks Tony Dungy should go is on crack or the biggest idiot i've ever seen. I read an article about how this year is Dungy's last chance to get to the super bowl.. and i couldnt disagree more.

I tend to agree, although you have to admit it worked in Tampa. Still, the chances of finding a better coach are slim at best. Unless there's some indication that he can't coach (lots of penalties, perhaps) and is surviving on the talent of his team, leave the guy alone.