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Galaxy
08-05-2006, 07:02 PM
Lebanon/UN:Yes to US-France agreement for Peace. No to Turkish sly trap


Undemocratic pals of criminals, even deadly Bomb makers (as 2005-2006 FACTS reveal), canNOT be entrusted with Peace-building at sensitive Lebanon-Middle East area !

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The fact that an agreement for Peace in Lebanon between the U.S. and France, was anounced this saturday for UN resolutions, is obviously good news, and the principle seems in accordance with what we had already published, here and elsewhere.

(See, f.ex. : http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?p=215446&posted=1#post215446 )

But it's important that an International effort for Peace in Lebanon succeeds,
both in the short and long term.

While many details remain to be definitively decided, an important point, which affects both the real significance and the efficiency on the spot of the whole operation in the sensitive Middle East region, has apparently been left for a second stage :

- Who will participate in a possible international defense force for Peace in Lebanon, is obviously crucial :

Careful, U.S. President GWBush had advised that instead of a direct U.S. physical involvement, the Amerikan contribution might better focus on the main political aspects and possibly on high-tech input about "command-control" and/or other useful points, considering also that the U.S. is, today, largely involved in many other areas of the World, from Afghanistan to Iraq, etc.

This necessarily means a closer involvement by overseas, mainly (but not only) European partners of the U.S., as France and others, who have particular historic and cultural links with Lebanon, as well as with other E.U. members and International partners, may be in a kind of loose cooperation with NATO; or not, but with an adhoc command, specially made for Lebanon at the Middle-East, and under U.N. auspices.

The problem is that U.K. PM M. Blair, curiously, prefers not to send Brittish troops (already involved at Bassorah, Iraq, and elsewhe, insists to impose the controversial, notiously anti-democratic and expansionist Turkish military, which risks to provoke many dangers in the area, for various converging reasons :

In addition to the concrete points already made (see above and elsewhere), nobody can seriously ignore also the following facts :


- Α general principle, to avoid any dangerous deviation, should be that noone who might be suspected or tempted for dangerous expansionism in this delicate region, should be avoided, in particular if he has close territorial borders. There is obviously even a greater such danger, if someone, like Turkey, has a bad Past of an oppressive and retrograde "Ottoman Empire" military occupation in the entire Middle East, against which struggled generations of Arabs, Jews and others to liberate their homes and countries.


There are many other, much more Peaceful countries, both from Europe, the Mediteranean Sea or the Indian Ocean, etc. or elsewhere in the World, (i.e. Canada, India, the Pacific, etc). This includes also some "Muslim" majority countries (f. ex. Algeria, Tynesia, Maroc, or remote Arab countries, if not Asian, etc), even if Christian-majority of Boudhist and other such countries, or multi-confessionals, might be better seen as NEUTRAL, takind no parts for Muslims or Jews.


- But the point about Democracy and Human Rights, (See above), is particularly important here, not only for the sake of innocent defenseless Civilians, (mostly Families, Women, Children and other fragile Refugees, etc), but also for the Credibility vis-a-vis the People for anyone who might have to take also "strong" measures, when really required.

How Lebanese People feel about the risk of a return to the old Ottoman Empire occupation Past, was expressed very clearly, among others, also by the publication in a well-known Beirut Media, of this photo, of the "new" Chief of the Turkish Military :

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/admin/storage/articles/20067312242300.5-LEAD.jpG

>>> Even more important : Nobody should take the grave responsibility to impose to the U.S., France, the U.N. SC, the International Community at large, and the People who live at Lebanon and Israel, instead of real Peace, on the contrary, such Turkish military circles who have notoriously dangerous links even with deadly .. Bomb-makers, and other provocators who trigger, maintain and aggravate tensions leading in bloody conflicts, as recently published FACTS proved :


> The Turkish general pictured at the above photo of the Lebanes Media, as it reminds, was involved in 2005 in a dark case of intervening in favor of an agent of the Turkish State who had posed ...Deadly Bombs inside a civilian Bookshop, killing simple civilians and triggering a long and dangerous series of violence, demonstrations, brutal interventions, more civilian People wounded or killed, etc. !

>> This seems to be almost a .. frequent practice inside the notoriously undemocratic Turkish Military, since even anOther Turkish general admitted that he had put Bombs even near to the Homes of some People in order to provole tensions in the Kurdish areas as early as since the 1990ies, as many Newspapers wrote last week...

>>> Nobody can forget also the infamous 1998 "Susurluk" Scandal, where a Turkish Politican of the then Governing coalition was found in the same car with a so-called "Security" Chief and a ... deadly Criminal Thug wanted for many Murders, brutal aggressions, destructions, etc..

=> Whoever might attempt to manipulate the International Community in order to impose such notoriously anti-democratic and expansionist Turkish military, a remnant of the abhorred Past of old Ottoman Empire Occupation, who have even many close pals among ... deadly Bomb makers (!), obviously undertake heavy responsibilities,

(As Mr. Brittish "liberal" PM. Mr. Bliar, who notoriously insists to impose Turkey, and possible underlying interests, : see above-cited Facts).

When everybody, and the U.S. - France agreement, as well as the UN and the whole World, including the main actors at the area, urgently ask to take measures for a democratic Peace and Stability, nobody should undertake the grave Responsibility vis-a-vis People and the History to impose to them... even notorious undemocratic pals of deadly Bomb-makers, and other recipes for tragic Destabilisation.

The sensitive Lebanon and Middle East region, where conflicts have impacts also in the larger surrounding area, and Worldwide, even at the U.S., as well as the simple innocent Civilians, Children, Women, Refugees and other fragile People, urgently need help from Democratic, Neutral Countries, who largely respect Human Rights, cannot be suspected for local territorial expansionism, and whose Military is beyond any suspicion of meddling up with criminals of even makers of deadly Bombs provoking bloody clashes.

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Everybody knows that :

A good pie needs the right ingrediants to succeed.

A bad or wrong ingredient can provoke its failure,
and, in the present case, become a recipe for more tragic, inhuman desasters and dangerous DESTABILISATION.

Galaxy
08-09-2006, 08:01 PM
Lebanon exploiters: Turkey betrays its brutal hostility against the American Government and President GWBush !

> By a Foreign Government intervention in U.S. internal politics...

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- After people started to realize the real interests of those playing with fire and innocent Human Lives in Lebanon to pay their heavy debts on a controversial Clinton-Gore planned Turkish pipeline of their liberal pal M. Bliar's "Brittish Petroleum", (the same which blackmails the U.S. by threatening to close the biggest pipeline in America : see above), slyly benefiting from excessive oil prices provoked by the bloody conflict which started the same days they inaugurated this too costly pipeline (initially rejected by U.S. business as too expensive),

=> the Turkish Government confesses its Hostility against the American Government and U.S. President GWBush, revealing its pro-liberal links to those who, inside the DP, took the grave responsibility to push with their political pal, Mr. Bliar, towards the costly and risky Turkish pipeline that they want to exploit, by translating and republishing in its official Ankara website a sudden outburst of brutal personal aggressions and hate-speech :

- It clearly results from this hainous text, that a notoriously Anti-Democratic Turkish Government lobby dares interfere in the internal affairs of the greatest Democracy in the World, and even threatens to aggravate scandalous aggressive interventions inside U.S. American politics, obviously targetting November's partial Congress Election :

But, this scandalous behavior, typical of Bad Loosers, (which proves that a notoriously antidemocratic Turkish lobby executes orders and immitates similar, even more covert, undermining moves recently initiated by the controversial, pro-Cloning liberal PM Mr. Bliar at California : See supra),
threatens to back-fire like a boomerang against such Turkish interferences in U.S. internal affairs, by starting a long and important series of Revelations of even worst Scandals...


<< Sabah [09] FROM THE COLUMNS...[00] WHAT SHOULD BE DONE IN MIDDLE EAST?

Columnist Haluk Sahin comments on the situation in the Middle East. A summary of his column is as follows:

“....certainly, the US is baby-sitting a civil war in our neighbor (Iraq). ..... What have the US been doing in Lebanon for one month? It’s trying all sorts of tactics and working hard so Israel can reach its goals. Meanwhile, ...people ..dye. ....

I can say that US President George W. Bush is Iranian President ..Ahmadinejad’s best friend. ..Ahmadinejad, ...thanks to the things the US has done, ...would certainly vote for Bush or Republicans!

What about the American people? What will American voters do in the following Congress elections?

Everything finally depends on it.If the elections result in rejection in November, all the equation might change completely.

Today’s global imbalance made the entire world the prisoner of American voters’.... However, they don’t know ......

Reportedly, democrats ...are applauded greatly. This is also a danger signal. I even don’t want to think about what the Bush administration and neo-cons who have turned the Middle East into the fire can do soon in order to impress the voters who feel to have been deceived.....

Now, let’s see how the elections in the US will be concluded.” >>


See : http://www.byegm.gov.tr/YAYINLARIMIZ/chr/ing2006/08/06x08x09.htm#1

>>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Ottoman-Counsultative-Menagerie.png

=> Will you let such notoriously anti-democratic habits of a Turkish former-Ottoman Empire (retro image above) aggressive interferences join old former-Brittish Empire habits of Mr. Bliar's liberal pro-Cloning pals to impose their costly pipeline demands by even open Government gross interventions inside U.S. politics, openly treating America as if it was still their subordinate former Colony, and not an Independent country with the greatest Democracy in the World ?

Recently, after controversial liberal, pro-Cloning Mr. Bliar, dropped Washington for some anti-federal government's opponents in California (See above), did he also forget that the old times of former Brittish Empire were over since America's Historic succesful struggle to gain its Independence ?

old-reb
08-09-2006, 08:09 PM
:confused: :confused: :confused:


You posted the same thing before, after reading your post I decided that one of us needs to go here for help.

http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?t=20183

Galaxy
08-23-2006, 07:11 PM
:confused: :confused: :confused:

You posted the same thing before, .....

In a differend, specific context, old-reb. At any case, these infos are obviously useful also for all readers interested in the items covered by this thread.

If you have any interesting observation to contribute to these issues, you are welcome. Otherwise, there is no place here for bullying.


+ Here are some more related News :
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>>> Turkey admits aiming at Kirkuk via Lebanon
threatens with Crises and Instability!

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Turkey shamelessly admitted that behind its insistence to send its Military to Lebanon, is hidden also Ankara's aim to intervene at Northern Iraq for Kirkuk's oil !
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- "Even if discussions on whether or not to send troops to Lebanon are the main item on the agenda, Turkey is closely interested in ...northern Iraq", admits Turkish Newspaper Hurriyet, Ankara Military's usual mouthpiece.

- Turkish "Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul, did not merely refer to Lebanon when he said that... No one should expect Turkey to remain indifferent to events in its region", it observes, obviously criticizing mainly the U.S.

- "Kirkuk, ..has its place on the agenda", it reveals. "There is no doubt that bargains on Kirkuk will mark the period ahead."

- "....Kirkuk will cause great problems for the region within one year", threatens the Turkish Media.

- " A crisis is emerging from within a crisis" : "the cauldron ..has been boiling in Kirkuk ...(and) never cooled down", it boasts.

The question of "Kirkuk's status s is directly linked to Iraq's future and has a potential of instability" (sic !) Turkey warns

"The Turkish Army" could be involved in "...developments that will follow the incidents in ... Lebanon, (and)...may advance from ... Kurdish region to northern Iraq and ...take control of Kirkuk", Ankara threatens.

Already, "according to a Report .... published this month, Turkey has increased its military and intelligence activities in northern Iraq. ... a large number of intelligence officials and special teams have been sent to the region lately":

"....despite the fact that these activities appear to be related to the PKK, they actually aim to control the developments in Kirkuk".

"The issue of Kirkuk is not merely related to the PKK's presence or its activities", the Turkish Media admits.

=> Turkey raises the Question of "the Status of Kirkuk", asks for "an agreement .. in Iraq", and demands "a Referendum" !

(See : Hurriyet, 8/21/2006).