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Salino
07-19-2006, 07:53 AM
The situation in the World is becoming hotter and first of all in the Middle East. Well, to tell the truth it’s too strange and tangled especially the beginning of war between Israel and Lebanon. Yes, the ground of it is clear (the seizure of Israeli soldiers). But it is happening at the background of mass withdrawal of soldiers of fortune from Chechnya. And of course most part of them directly help their Muslim brothers the more so as they have enough experience for fight.
But I have some idea that this war was begun as a result of provocation organized by Israel! I think that Israel used Jewish oligarch Berezovsky’s close ties with Chechen rebels and organized the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers by Chechens’ hands. By this way Israel has loosened its hands to unleash the war.
IMO we can see by the naked eye Jews’ activity in the World now. They showed themselves in GB (the Lord Levy arrest) and in USA (the information about Jewish lobby conspiracy against president Bush). That’s why we can suppose that the beginning of military conflict between Israel and Lebanon was a provocation organized by Israeli side but not Lebanon.
perljam1902
07-20-2006, 09:54 AM
Israel believes they just need two more weeks to beat Lebonan. We have similar time in Iraq but look where are we in that situation.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/739372.html
old-reb
07-20-2006, 10:13 AM
The war is not with Lebanon. Hezbollah is a country in a country and uses Lebanon as a cover government and Lebanese as human shields.
The president of Lebanon has asked for international help to dis-arm Hezbollah, as the Lebanon army isn't strong enough to do the job.
Frogger
07-20-2006, 10:46 AM
The war is not with Lebanon.
Then why have so many innocent Lebanese died? Why did the IAF bomb two Christian Lebanese villages in the north of Lebanon, an area with no Hezbollah forces? Why did an Israeli general say, "We want to bomb them (the Lebanese) back to twenty years ago."
Blibblob
07-20-2006, 11:32 AM
The president of Lebanon has asked for international help to dis-arm Hezbollah, as the Lebanon army isn't strong enough to do the job.
And acquiescing his request seems like it would be a far better hit on terrorism then Iraq ever was and will be.
old-reb
07-20-2006, 11:36 AM
The war is not with Lebanon.
Then why have so many innocent Lebanese died? Why did the IAF bomb two Christian Lebanese villages in the north of Lebanon, an area with no Hezbollah forces? Why did an Israeli general say, "We want to bomb them (the Lebanese) back to twenty years ago."
Lebanese civilians are being killed by Israel because Hezbollah is using innocent Lebanese civilians as human shields which is a war crime.
Hizbollah's military headquarters are located in southern Beirut, and that the positioning of military/guerrilla installations in residential areas is considered a war crime, as defined by Protocol I (1977) to the Geneva Convention, article 51(7), relating to human shields. Hizbollah also store and launch missiles from civilian villages in southern Lebanon
http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=30159
Give me a link to the Israeli general who wanted to bomb Lebanon back 20 years or I will just consider that as propaganda.
old-reb
07-20-2006, 11:46 AM
IDF: Hizbullah preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon
The IDF has found that Hizbullah is preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon. Roadblocks have been set up outside some of the villages to prevent residents from leaving, while in other villages Hizbullah is preventing UN representatives from entering, who are trying to help residents leave. In two villages, exchanges of fire between residents and Hizbullah have broken out. (Hanan Greenberg)
(07.18.06, 21:41)
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3278026,00.html
Frogger
07-20-2006, 11:48 AM
Lebanese civilians are being killed by Israel because Hezbollah is using innocent Lebanese civilians as human shields which is a war crime.
That doesn't explain the bombing of Christian villages up in the north of Lebanon, an area where there are no Hezbollah.
You're going to have to take my word on the quote, Reb. The article in which I read the quote is no longer available.
I am not in the habit of making up quotes.
googs
07-20-2006, 11:50 AM
IDF: Hizbullah preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon
The IDF has found that Hizbullah is preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon. Roadblocks have been set up outside some of the villages to prevent residents from leaving, while in other villages Hizbullah is preventing UN representatives from entering, who are trying to help residents leave. In two villages, exchanges of fire between residents and Hizbullah have broken out. (Hanan Greenberg)
If it's true, why is this so different than what Israel does with Palestinians.
old-reb
07-20-2006, 12:20 PM
Lebanese civilians are being killed by Israel because Hezbollah is using innocent Lebanese civilians as human shields which is a war crime.
That doesn't explain the bombing of Christian villages up in the north of Lebanon, an area where there are no Hezbollah.
You're going to have to take my word on the quote, Reb. The article in which I read the quote is no longer available.
I am not in the habit of making up quotes.
The answer is the same, human shields. Israel must attack Missile sites for self defence.
5- Hezbollah is purposefully using Christian, Sunni and Druze villages to fire rockets at Israel. In fact, they count on Israel retaliating in these places, killing non-Shia civilians who then in turn might become hostile to Israel and side with Hezbollah.
Again, the use of civilians as shields and sacrificial propaganda tools, post-mortem. Now, in addition to embedding themselves among their own civilian population (Hizballah’s Shia in the south), but now clearly look to sacrifice their Christian, Sunni and Druze Lebanese internal competitors. This clearly defines the line of moral demarcation between us and our Islamist terrorist enemies.
old-reb
07-20-2006, 12:34 PM
If it's true, why is this so different than what Israel does with Palestinians.
Same song, different verse.
she knows why the Israelis are back.
"Because of the rockets, everyone is launching rockets" from the agricultural areas inside the Gaza Strip over the border at Israeli towns, she said. "Days before, there was a group trying to shoot a rocket, and they were hit by a missile from a drone, and all of them died.
"All the time I get in fights with them when they come. They know it will bring Israel back to the area," she complained of the Palestinians firing the projectiles. "The last time I said: 'The Israelis are going to come and kill us. Aren't you afraid you're going to make us orphans?' And one of them said: 'We will launch the rockets from your house. You deserve it,' " and they fired it from outside her fence, she said.
Her father-in-law, Ali el-Selgawi, 76, sat forlornly on the linoleum schoolroom floor that is the family's latest bed, sipping juice and shaking his head. "You can't talk to them, or they just hit you," he said.
Mariam el-Selgawi added that the capture of the Israeli soldier -- and the militants' bid to use him in a prisoner swap -- was a big mistake. "It allowed the Israelis to come back in," she said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/16/AR2006071600797.html
old-reb
07-20-2006, 12:37 PM
The president of Lebanon has asked for international help to dis-arm Hezbollah, as the Lebanon army isn't strong enough to do the job.
And acquiescing his request seems like it would be a far better hit on terrorism then Iraq ever was and will be.
True
500lbguerilla
07-20-2006, 03:50 PM
Same song, different verse.
"The Führer felt obliged to strike back only after Polish troops had crossed the German border at several places. The German fight is a defensive fight. We fight because we were forced to fight by the insults and demands against us, because of the brutal suppression of ethnic Germans in Poland, and because of the open announcements that they would do everything in their power to strangle National Socialist Germany through military or economic means." -- Die Wehrmacht (1939, Nr. 19, p. 2, available online)